Hell

God's Judgment: WHY and HOW, Part 4

Review / Introduction:

Judgment is Inescapable for the Unsaved. Someday It Will Be Too Late... (Nahum 3)

  1. Judgment IS going to Happen. (Nahum 3:1-7)
  2. It's been too late for Others. (Nahum 3:8-11)
  3. Your Resources won't matter. (Nahum 3:12-18)
  4. There is NO coming Back won't matter. (Nahum 3:19)

Hebrews 9:27 - And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment...

Hebrews 6:4-6 - For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then fall away, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding Him up to contempt.

Isaiah 55:6 - Seek the Lord while He may be found, call upon Him while He is near.

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    Open up your Bibles to the book of Nahum, chapter 3.

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    As we conclude today our series, entitled, "God's Judgment - Why and How." I'm going to be completely honest with you, this is not the servant series I was looking forward to this year.

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    It's fun to talk about grace and love and marriage and parenting.

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    It's not the most fun thing to talk about, but like the Apostle Paul told the Ephesian elders, "I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God." And I feel it's my responsibility as a pastor to give you the whole story.

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    We're not going to shy away from uncomfortable subjects.

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    Right? Right?

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    Yeah, you know.

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    You know.

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    So, let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, as we turn to Your Word right now, this is something people don't want to talk about, God.

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    People want to think that this stuff isn't real, but it is.

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    It's as real as heaven.

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    We're mindful that when Jesus talked about hell, He said it lasts as long as heaven lasts, and it's eternal.

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    We think of judgment and hell, "Father, we should be stirred up that real people are really going there.

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    People that we work with.

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    People in our families.

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    Maybe somebody sitting here or listening to this message online later, shake us out of our apathy.

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    Let your Word be clear, Father.

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    I pray in Jesus' name, that all of God's people said, "Amen." We are talking about God's judgment.

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    What is judgment?

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    Well, judgment is - simplest definition I could come up with - identifying sin and condemning sinners.

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    That's judgment.

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    God says, "This is sin. This is wrong." And those who persist in living this lifestyle without turning from their sin, without receiving My grace, they are condemned.

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    That's judgment.

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    In the book of Nahum, this little prophet in the Old Testament is a book all about God's judgment.

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    was judging a city called Nineveh, which was the capital of Assyria, for her violence and for her pride.

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    We've talked about that.

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    Nineveh, they were violent people, building monuments out of corpses and skulls, skinning people alive, taking people and chopping off hands and feet.

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    They were brutal, brutal, brutal people.

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    Wicked.

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    And they were proud.

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    You can't even touch us. We're unstoppable." And the Lord says, "We'll see about that." We saw our messages week one, judgment is fueled by God's jealousy.

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    The reason God brings judgment is because He loves His people.

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    Judgment is fueled by jealousy.

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    Then week two, we saw judgment is a response to man's pride.

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    God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.

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    You're going to get God's attention one way or the other, through your pride or through your humility.

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    Choose wisely.

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    And last week, we talked about hell.

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    And we see that God's judgment is horrific.

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    It's horrific.

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    Being Father's Day, I was thinking about some things that parents do.

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    And not condemning, not pointing fingers, because I think every parent at some point has done this.

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    You don't have to raise your hand and confess.

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    If you want to, that makes you feel better, you can.

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    How many parents have ever done this thing?

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    I'm gonna count to three, and if you don't stop doing that, you ever done that, don't raise your hand, but I think we all have.

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    Actually, my parents didn't count to three, they counted to one, right?

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    It's like, I'm gonna count, boom!

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    That's not politically correct or whatever today, but I'm gonna count to three, I'm gonna count to three.

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    I gotta tell you the thing that cracks me up about it.

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    One of the things that cracks me up about that is I've heard parents threaten to take something away from the kids that I'm like, I wanna jump in and say, kid, there's no way your parents not gonna give that.

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    Like I've heard parents say something like, I'm gonna count to three, if you don't put that down, we're not going to Disney World next week.

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    Like, come on, really?

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    Really, if he doesn't put it down, you're gonna...

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    the plane tickets and the park tickets and all your plans, your vacation, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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    Yeah, that's what you're gonna do, that's your plan.

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    Or if you don't put that down, I'm not gonna feed you this week.

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    Somebody call CYS.

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    Like that's not gonna happen, right?

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    But we, and then they get to the actual counting, right?

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    All right, I'm gonna count to three.

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    One, two, two, two, two and a half.

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    Come on, I'm gonna count one, two, you've heard parents do that, right?

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    And some of us have done that.

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    This is not a message about parenting.

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    But some people think God is like that.

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    Some people think God is like that.

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    You better stop sinning because you're making me mad and I'm gonna count one, two, stop sinning, two, stop, put that down, stop sinning, one, two, and then not bring judgment, right?

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    Go to Disney World anyways, give you heaven anyways.

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    Some people think God is like that constantly counting, threatening parent that we know is never going to come through with the actual punishment.

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    And I gotta tell you, I wish that were true.

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    I wish that that was what the Bible said.

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    I wish that what the Bible said about judgment just wasn't in there, but it is.

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    It's absolutely true.

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    And it absolutely should shake you down to the marrow in your bones.

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    Chapter 3 we're looking at today is just like chapter 2.

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    There's no instruction, there's no call for repentance, there's just a declaration of judgment.

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    That's what makes Nahum a hard book to read and to study and to preach from.

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    Like, "Well, wait a second, it doesn't sound like God to not offer repentance.

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    Why isn't God offering repentance?" Well, this passage, and really the whole book of Nahum, screams a biblical truth that flies in the face of a lie that most people believe.

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    And here's the lie.

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    And this is what we're addressing today.

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    The lie is, I will always have another chance to get right with God later.

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    I'll always have another chance.

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    Yeah, I'm in sin now, but I'll repent later.

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    And the book of Nahum is in God's Word to remind us that you're not always going to have later.

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    There's going to come a point that it's too late.

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    "I'll get serious about God later. I'll repent later.

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    I'll stop living this way later." That is the procrastination of the worst kind because it can cost you eternity.

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    And none of us learn.

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    And we're going to learn today there comes a point when it's too late, and when it's too late, judgment is inescapable." So let's look at the text. In the name of chapter 3, are you there?

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    Drawing notes down.

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    Someday it will be too late. Okay?

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    Someday it will be too late.

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    Number one, judgment is going to happen. Okay?

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    Judgment is going to happen.

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    Look at verses 1 through 7.

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    Woe to the bloody city, all full of lies and plunder.

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    No end to the prey." Again, nasty, wicked people.

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    Verses 2 and 3 talk about the sounds of the destruction that's coming.

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    Verse 3 talks about the sights of destruction that's coming.

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    This is what it's going to sound like, this is what it's going to look like.

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    The crack of the whip, the rumble of the wheel, galloping horse and bounding chariots.

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    You kind of hear that in your head?

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    Well, here's what it looks like, verse 3, "Horsemen charging, flashing sword and glittering spear, hosts of slain, heaps of corpses, dead bodies without end, they stumble over the bodies.

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    And all for the countless whorings of the prostitute, graceful and of deadly charms, who betrays nations with her whorings and people with her charms.

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    God says, "You're like a prostitute. Not only are you wicked, but you're enticing other people into wickedness with you." Verse 5, the Lord says, "Behold, I am against you." He said that in 2:13. Everybody saw that.

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    The most chilling thing God can ever say, right?

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    "Behold, I am against you." declares the Lord of hosts, and will lift up your skirts over your face, and I will make nations look at your nakedness, and kingdoms at your shame.

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    I will throw filth at you, and treat you with contempt, and make you a spectacle." It's going to be humiliating.

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    Judgment is going to be humiliating.

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    Nineveh, hey, you're getting what you gain.

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    Right?

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    God says, and no one's going to care, by the way.

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    No one's going to care.

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    Look at verse 7.

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    "And all who look at you will shrink from you and say, 'Wasted is Nineveh!

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    Who will grieve for her?

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    Where shall I seek comforters for you?'" Like Nineveh, you're going down and it's going to be shameful, There's not a person that's going to give a rip.

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    There's going to be a giant funeral for you, and not one person is going to show up.

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    You see, Nineveh repented when Jonah preached.

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    Do you remember that?

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    But a little more than 100 years later, they were worse than ever.

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    And through Nahum, God is saying it's enough.

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    Repenting is not on the table anymore.

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    Judgment is the only thing on the table.

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    It's too late. It's over.

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    I'd like to remind you that someday And you don't know if God's going to allow you one more decade on this earth, if He's going to allow you one more year, one more week, or one more hour.

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    I'd like to remind you not to ever, ever presume upon God's patience.

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    Just because God's waited doesn't mean that He'll wait forever.

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    We've already covered that. Let's look at number two here.

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    So judgment is going to happen.

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    Someday it will be too late, number two.

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    It's been too late for others.

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    Verses 8 through 11, God's giving a case study of another city.

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    It's interesting.

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    This other city called Thebes, also called Neumann, was another city that was mighty and vicious and proud and actually was situated on a river and thought they were unstoppable.

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    So God gives a case study.

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    God says, "You better than Thebes?" That sat by the Nile with water around her, her rampart a sea and water her wall.

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    Cush was her strength, Egypt too, and that without limit, put, and the Libyans were her helpers.

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    So Thebes was actually the capital of South Egypt, and they fell to the Assyrians in 663 They had the water as natural barrier, they had alliances with Put and the Libyans, and God here is saying, "Oh, you think you're better than them.

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    Do you remember them? Do you remember the Thebes?

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    You're going to fall just like they did." Verses 10 and 11, "Yet she became an exile, she went into captivity, her infants were dashed in pieces at the head of every street.

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    For her honored men lots were cast, but all her great men were bound in chains.

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    You also will be drunken, you will go into hiding, you will seek refuge from the enemy." History is riddled with mighty nations, with people who have come and gone.

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    If you're taking notes, I want you to just jot down a little list here.

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    Write out names of people that you know, heard of, read about, that cheated death.

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    Write down the names of the people that you know of that figured out a way to avoid God.

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    Who was the person who managed to sidestep judgment?

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    Name the empire that was mighty enough to withstand the Lord Almighty.

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    Are you writing them down?

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    History is proof. That's what God's saying here.

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    History is proof.

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    You're not too big to fall.

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    You're not too mighty to withstand the Almighty.

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    Time is up for everyone at some point.

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    Number three, someday it will be too late, and your resources won't matter.

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    Resources won't matter.

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    Look at verses 12 and 13.

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    "All your fortresses are like fig trees, with first-ripe figs.

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    If shaken, they fall into the mouth of the eater." What a picture.

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    God says, "You know these fortresses you think are so mighty?

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    You know how tough they are?

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    It's like a fig tree that somebody just goes up and opens their mouth and shakes the tree and the figs just fall in." He's like, "That's how tough you are." Not impressive. Everybody say, "Not impressive." Verse 13, "Behold, your troops are women in your midst." That is so not politically correct, Lord.

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    I'm sure God's not losing any sleep over that.

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    If He slept, He's not losing any sleep over that.

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    You understand the picture here, right?

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    You understand the picture.

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    Like you think your soldiers are a bunch of Darren Millers.

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    what you think they are.

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    God says, "You know what your soldiers are to me?

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    They're Livy-orts. That's what they are to me." No offense, but there's obviously a difference there, right?

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    Right? Right?

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    Okay. Come on. I hope.

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    Livy, that didn't offend you, did it?

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    Okay, you understand the picture.

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    You see, you're little and cute, And we're not scared of you.

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    And that's a good thing.

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    That's God's point here, because you think you're this and you're that.

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    "The gates of your land are wide open to your enemies.

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    Fire has devoured your bars." God says, "You're weak and defenseless." Verse 14, here comes more mocking.

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    God says, "Draw water for the seeds, strengthen your forts, go into the clay, tread the mortar, take hold of the brick mold.

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    There the fire will devour you.

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    The sword will cut you off, it will devour you like the locusts." Multiply yourselves like the locusts. Multiply like the grasshopper.

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    God says, he's mocking him, he says, "Your efforts are useless.

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    The numbers don't matter." He says, "You increased your merchants more than the stars of the heavens.

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    The locust spreads its wings and flies away.

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    Your princes are like grasshoppers, your scribes like clouds of locusts settling on the fences in the day of cold.

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    When the sun rises, they fly away. No one knows where they are.

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    Your shepherds are asleep, O king of Assyria.

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    Your nobles slumber.

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    Your people are scattered on the mountains with none to gather them." God's saying, "First of all, your commerce will not make a difference.

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    I don't care how big your economy is." Again, not too big to fail.

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    God says, "Your commerce, your merchants, they're not going to make a difference." He says, "Your government can't stop me." And He says, "Your important people are gone." Do you see that? Look again, verse 18.

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    "Your shepherds are asleep, your nobles slumber." And you know, I was thinking about that a lot this week, because how does something like that translate to our day?

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    Like if God was giving this message in our day, who would be the nobles?

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    I thought who would be considered the important people?

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    You know who that is, right?

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    It's the celebrities, right?

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    It's the celebrities.

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    These celebrities, they're very good at what they do, But they make a living pretending to be something else, and all of a sudden they're the expert in all matters of morality and theology and politics.

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    And church, it absolutely floors me that anybody gives a rip what a celebrity says.

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    Absolutely floors me.

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    A couple of recent examples where people were just...

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    Christians were just so shocked and outraged.

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    You remember recently Joy Behar mocked Christians on The View, saying, you know, "It's a mental illness." Did you see that?

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    I'm sorry, who?

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    I was like, I heard that, I'm like, "Who the heck's Joy Behar?" Follow-up question, "Why do I care what she said?" So are we that shocked that a godless person made a godless comment?

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    (gasps)

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    I would have been more shocked if she'd get on the view reading scripture.

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    That would have shocked me.

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    You know, whoopie, what do you think about Revelation 19 or whatever?

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    If these celebrities get on there, they're the nobles, they're the important people of our day and everybody just hangs on their every tweet.

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    Maybe we should pray for her.

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    Going back a couple years prior, Kathy Griffin in accepting an award said Jesus had nothing to do with it.

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    She says people get up and thank Jesus.

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    Jesus had nothing to do with this.

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    She then told Jesus to quote suck it and said that the Emmy was her God.

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    Well, she's going to be in for a surprise.

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    Maybe we should pray for her.

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    But that's the point here.

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    It doesn't matter.

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    When judgment is coming, that day when it's too late for the Joy Behars and the Kathy Griffins, Any of them.

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    When judgment is coming, it doesn't matter how much money you have, it doesn't matter who your friends are, it doesn't matter your position at work, it doesn't matter how much kale you've eaten, and it doesn't matter how many burpees you've done.

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    When it's too late, your resources are not going to grant you an extension.

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    Not now, God, I'm in for a promotion.

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    Not now, God, do you know how much money I make?

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    He doesn't care, because someday it's going to be too late.

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    And that's the point that he's making here in Nahum.

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    "Oh, your merchants are like locusts and grasshoppers, so multiplied and so busy and so..." God's like, "At the end of the day, you're a group of insects.

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    Someday it will be too late." Number four, someday it will be too late, and there is no coming back.

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    All of that that I said to this point was the introduction.

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    This is the sermon.

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    And it's all in verse 19.

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    Look at this with me closely.

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    God says, "This is how Nahum ends, okay?

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    There is no easing your hurt.

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    Your wound is grievous.

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    All who hear the news about you clap their hands over you.

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    For upon whom has not come your unceasing evil?" Nahum closes with the message, "Someday it will be too late.

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    There's no coming back.

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    It's all over." Back to where we started right there.

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    There's a point of no return.

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    Remember I said the lie that people believe?

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    You will not always have the chance to repent.

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    I'll repent later. I'll repent later.

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    You will not always have the chance to repent.

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    I know I've shared this story before.

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    In this instance, it certainly bears repeating, but I think about this guy often.

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    One time in the prison ministry, we go into Butler County and have Bible study.

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    I had a guy one time, some of you guys heard this story, but this guy, he said, "I have a question." I said, "Yeah, what's your question?" He said, "So are you telling me that if I was on my deathbed, And I pray and receive Jesus then, I'll go to heaven." And I'm like, "Oh, I know where this is going." And I said, "Yeah, technically that's true." He goes, "Well, I'll just do that. I'll just do that." And I said, "No, you won't." He's like, "What do you mean, 'No, I won't'? Why won't I?" I said, "Well, there's two reasons you're not going to do that. Two reasons.

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    Number one, you might not have a deathbed, right?

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    Oh, wouldn't it be great if that's how we all died?

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    We all live to be 120, and we're in our deathbed, in our homes, and our families surrounding us and holding our hands, and they're singing, you know, "Will the circle be unbroken" very softly to us, and we just fall asleep and we don't wake up.

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    Wouldn't it be nice if we all had that?

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    Do you know how often that actually happens?

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    Hardly ever, right?

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    How many of us could get up here and tell stories of people who have died way too soon, unexpectedly?

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    accidents, heart attacks, strokes.

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    So you might not have a deathbed, but there's even a worse problem.

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    Well, I told the guys, I said, hypothetically, let's pretend here, hypothetically, you have a deathbed experience.

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    I'm gonna give you that.

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    You live to be 120 and you're on your deathbed, your family's surrounding you, will the circle be unbroken, all that stuff, right?

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    And I'm gonna give you that.

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    I'll grant you that." There is no way, there is no way in that moment you will receive Jesus Christ.

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    Why not?

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    I said, "Because leading up to that point, you will have spent decades saying no to God, shutting God out, ignoring God." And you know what the Bible calls that?

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    The Bible calls that hardening your heart.

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    How hard do you think your heart is going to be after decades of hardening it?

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    How hard do you think it's going to be?

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    It's going to be rock solid.

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    And the chances of the Word of God penetrating a heart that has said no for decades, it is not going to happen.

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    Not because the fault's on God's end, oh no, no.

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    The fault's on your end, because you have committed yourself to a lifetime of saying no to Jesus Christ.

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    So don't think that there's going to come a point where you've chosen to say no for decades and then magically you're interested in the things of God.

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    So there's no coming back.

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    You're like, "Do you mean after you die?" Yeah, yeah.

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    Okay, clear teaching of the Bible, this life is your opportunity, right?

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    Hebrews 9.27 says, "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment." That is absolutely true. This life is your opportunity.

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    But I want you to listen very closely to this.

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    You can lose the opportunity to get saved.

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    You can go past the point of no return.

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    You can be in a position where you are unable to repent.

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    you can cross a line that you can't come back from in this life.

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    Again, it's not that God is unable to reach you.

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    But in this life, you can harden yourself to the point that you cannot be reached.

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    And I want you to look at this passage with me.

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    This is from Hebrews 6. We're just going to look at a couple of verses here.

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    It says, "For it is" - do you see that word? - "impossible." Do you know what that word means?

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    Not possible. Right?

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    "For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then fall away, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding Him up to contempt." Let's keep this passage up here.

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    This passage clearly teaches that someone can be around Christians, can be around the Holy Spirit, can be around the church, but never receive Christ.

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    You see, there's some people that teach this passage is talking about a Christian who loses their salvation.

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    Absolutely not. This is not teaching that whatsoever.

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    Because look, look at the language that's being used.

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    It doesn't say the person who is born again, the person who is regenerate, the person who is fully committed to following Christ.

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    That's not the language used in this passage at all.

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    Look at the words that are used.

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    It says, "They've been enlightened, they know something." "They've tasted the heavenly gifts." It doesn't say, "They possess the Holy Spirit." It says, "They've shared in the Holy Spirit and have tasted the goodness of the Word of God." This is clearly talking about somebody that's around Christians, around the work of the Holy Spirit.

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    Notice a couple of times he says "tasted." So if you're still not convinced, here's what I want you to do.

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    I want you to invite me to lunch after service, and whatever you order, you're going to get a taste of it, and then I'm going to take it away from you.

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    And then you'll understand there's a big difference between tasting something and consuming something.

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    Right? These people haven't fully embraced and consumed Christ like Jesus calls you to in John 6.

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    They've simply been around long enough to get some of the overflow of what it is like to be around somebody that has the Holy Spirit.

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    Right? They get a knowledge of the gospel, they get a taste of what it's like.

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    It's the guy or the girl that visits church, they seem to like going to church, They go to small groups, and the people seem nice in small groups.

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    And they feel good about being around them.

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    They appreciate them, and they even get a taste of the benefits of being in the family of God.

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    That's why it says, "Tasted the goodness of the word of God, and the powers of the age to come." You can be in this church and not be saved, but still get a little sample of heaven, because this is what heaven is going to be like.

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    God's people, God's truth, worshipping God, praising God all about Jesus.

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    So you're getting like this taste of it all, but never receiving Jesus Christ personally.

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    And he said, "If they then fall away," meaning this.

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    I know this passage says a lot, but here's the point.

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    When you get to the point that you truly understand who Jesus is, You truly understand what Jesus Christ has done, then you walk away.

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    It's impossible to get such a person back to them.

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    This is one of the scariest things in the Bible church.

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    You can get to the threshold, and you understand in your head, "I see who Jesus is. It makes sense to me now.

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    I understand why He died for me.

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    I understand it's the love of God that spared not His own Son.

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    And I understand He rose from the dead. I understand it.

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    But I'm not receiving.

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    My sin is more important to me.

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    My selfish lifestyle is more important to me.

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    See, this passage is saying you can't get the person back to that place.

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    They were before.

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    Now look, I don't know when that is for each person, okay?

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    I can't see your heart. Only God can see your heart.

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    Only God knows when that actually happens in a person's life.

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    So I don't know when it happens in a person, but here's the thing, church, I know that it does happen.

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    So the point is, the whole "I'll wait till later," that is the worst idea ever.

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    Because like Mr. Deathbed's plan, If you keep hardening your heart, you get to the place where it is impossible to get that person to repent. Impossible.

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    That should scare you like nothing else.

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    The person that says, "Oh, I'll repent later.

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    After this season of my life, I know I'm kind of involved in sin now.

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    I'm going to get serious about God later. I'm going to repent later.

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    I'll give my life to Jesus later.

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    I'll always have a chance to repent." No, you won't.

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    Hebrews 3-4, don't turn there.

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    Got that down there. Hebrews 3-4, five times it says, "Today." Today, today, today, today, today.

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    Today, if you hear God's voice, do not harden your heart.

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    Isaiah 55-6, again, look at this.

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    "Seek the Lord while he may be found." You know what that verse tells us?

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    There's going to come a time that God's not going to be found.

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    There's going to come a time that maybe you want to search for God, but it's been too late.

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    Seek the Lord while He may be found. Call upon Him while He is near." Lots of bad news today.

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    This is good news.

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    "Call upon Him while He is near." You know what the good news is? Right now, He is near.

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    He is near right now!

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    And it doesn't matter who you are, and it doesn't matter what you've done.

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    Today, today, if God's Holy Spirit is stirring something in your heart with this message, this isn't something to chew on and think about, maybe possibly down the road, today.

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    Because someday it might be too late.

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    Someday it will be too late, if you keep putting it off.

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    I want you to bow your heads with me.

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    The worship team is going to make their way forward.

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    But I want you to bow your heads, as we close this series, church.

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    The day of judgment is coming.

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    But today is the day of grace.

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    Today is the day that we can call upon God while He is near.

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    I'm going to lead us in a prayer.

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    Now listen, if you're sitting here today and you are born again, you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, I want you to pray for someone who needs to take that step.

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    But if you're listening to this, if you're sitting here, and you have been putting Him off, putting Him off, I'll repent later." And now you realize, "You know what? I might not have later.

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    Someday it is going to be too late for me." I want you to pray something like this.

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    I'm going to give you some words and some phrases here, and it's not a matter of just repeating them, right?

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    It's understanding these concepts and personalizing them, and praying them from your own heart to say, "Yes, I agree with these things, And God, I'm crying out to You personally.

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    I'm going to give you the opportunity right now.

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    First of all, pray something like this, "God, I realize that I am a sinner." Like one of our elders said this morning, "We are all sinners.

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    We've all fallen short of the glory of God." And step one in coming to Jesus Christ is acknowledging that.

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    Acknowledge that right now before the Lord.

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    Next, pray something like this, I understand that Jesus Christ died in my place, and He rose to give me eternal life.

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    And then pray, God, I believe, and I receive Him, because receiving Him makes me a forgiven child of God.

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    God, I know You want none to perish. You want everyone to come to the truth.

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    God, You love us and spared no expense.

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    You spared not even Your own Son, but delivered Him up for us all.

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    God, You let Your Son be brutally executed to pay the penalty for all the wrong things that I've done.

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    Pray, "Today, Father, I cry out to You, and receive Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior." Pray, "God, I know I cannot put it off.

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    Today, I want to give my life to You.

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    Let Your Holy Spirit come into my life and transform me.

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    Pray that.

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    Father, as there are people praying that right now, I lift them up before You.

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    God, I thank You that Your Word tells us, "You do not delight in the death of the wicked.

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    It is Your will that none should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Your Word tells us that you desire that all men would be saved.

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    And again, God, Your Word tells us that You spared not Your own Son, but You delivered Him up for us all.

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    You did everything, Father, so that our sins could be forgiven.

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    Father, I lift up the person right now who, maybe they've been confused about that.

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    Maybe they still are. Maybe they're struggling with understanding all of this.

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    Let your Holy Spirit and your Word do the work that you do, in the way that only you can do it.

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    Let salvation spring up from the ground.

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    Let righteousness rain down.

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    Let more children be adopted into your family today.

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    Today.

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    Because someday it will be too late.

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    Thank You, Father, for Your mercy and Your grace.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read Nahum 3

  1. Read Nahum 3:5-7. Why does God make the judgment so shameful?

  2. Why did God mention what happened to Thebes (No amon, Nahum 3:8-11)?

  3. When was the last time you have warned someone about God's judgment? Why are we so reluctant to do so?

  4. What was your big "take-away" from this passage / message? What was your big "takeaway" from the series?

Breakout Questions:

Pray for one another.

God's Judgment: WHY and HOW, Part 3

Review / Introduction:

Judgment is Horrific. (Nahum 2)

  1. The Battle is going to be horrific. (Nahum 2:1-5)
  2. The Devastation is going to be horrific. (Nahum 2:6-10)
  3. The Fall is going to be horrific. (Nahum 2:11-13)

The Truth about Hell

Hell is a Place

Matthew 8:12 - thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 10:28 - And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Hell is a Place of Torment...

Revelation 20:15 - And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Hell is a Place of Torment of Varying Degrees...

Matthew 11:24 - But I tell you that it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.

Hell is a Place of Torment of Varying Degrees that Lasts Forever...

Matthew 25:46 - these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Hell is a Place of Torment of Varying Degrees that Lasts Forever which we all Deserve...

Romans 3:23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Hell is a Place of Torment of Varying Degrees that Lasts Forever which we all Deserve but God DOES NOT want us going there.

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    Alright, turn in your Bibles with me please.

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    To the book of Nahum in the Old Testament.

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    Book of Nahum.

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    We're in chapter 2 and if you're just visiting with us at Harvest Bible Chapel, we believe in taking a book of the Bible and walking through it a verse at a time.

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    Instead of me getting up saying, "Here's what I think you need to hear." We let the Word of God speak for itself.

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    Amen?

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    And to that end, we are looking over these four weeks at an Old Testament book.

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    The book of Nahum.

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    This is a book about God's judgment.

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    Judgment is God's righteous act of identifying sin and condemning sinners.

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    And Nahum is a book all about judgment.

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    In the book of Nahum, God was judging a city called Nineveh, which was the capital of Assyria.

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    God was judging this city, these people, for two main reasons really that we've seen.

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    This is review, but two main reasons.

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    One is violence.

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    Nineveh was an extremely violent city.

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    We talked about that last week.

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    brutality with which they treated people.

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    And the other reason we saw also from Scripture was Nineveh's pride.

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    Nineveh got to the point that, "Who is God?" "We run this show!" And God doesn't tolerate competition.

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    And we saw the last two weeks, God's judgment is, first of all, fueled by jealousy.

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    Do you know why judgment is coming?

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    It's because God cares.

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    He loves His people.

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    And when He sees His people afflicted, it gets His attention because He loves us.

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    And last week we saw that judgment is a response to man's pride.

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    The Bible says over and over and over that God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.

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    So either way, you're going to get God's attention.

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    Right?

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    You're either going to get grace, or you're going to get opposition.

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    And what determines what you get from God is whether you choose to humble yourself, or you live in pride.

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    So we're going to be covering Nahum 2 today, and in this chapter you're going to see there's no instruction in this chapter.

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    There's no call for repentance.

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    This chapter is just a pronouncement of judgment for Nineveh, describing events.

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    Actually, when Nahum spoke these, these events didn't happen for three or four decades into the future, but Nahum describes them perfectly.

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    History records, even secular history records, that all these things that Nahum was talking about was fulfilled to the letter, to the most minor detail, perfectly fulfilled.

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    And there's really only one thing you can say in response to this chapter, and that's the title of today's message.

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    Judgment is horrific.

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    I chose that word because I couldn't think of a worse one, honestly.

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    I'm open for suggestions.

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    I could not think of a worse word to describe the judgment of God.

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    It's horrific.

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    So in this passage, God is talking to Nineveh through Nahum, and if you're taking notes, He says three things.

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    First of all, number one, the battle is going to be horrific.

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    The battle is going to be horrific.

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    There's an upcoming battle, Nineveh.

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    Hey, Assyria, I'm judging you.

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    I'm bringing punishment.

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    There's going to be a battle, and the battle is going to be horrific.

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    Look at chapter 2, verse 1.

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    It says the scatterer has come up against you.

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    Meaning the enemy coming against Nineveh.

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    And then look at this.

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    Man the ramparts, watch the road, dress for battle, collect all your strength.

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    God's mocking them.

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    God's like, "Hey, the battle's coming.

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    Get ready.

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    Get ready.

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    You've been so violent and so proud.

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    Well, get your fighting shoes on because the enemy's coming.

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    You ready?

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    You ready?

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    Get your people ready!

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    God is, He's mocking them.

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    It's like a futile call to arms.

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    Verse 2, "For the Lord is restoring the majesty of Jacob as the majesty of Israel.

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    For plunderers have plundered them and ruined their branches." Just a reminder, just in case you're wondering why God's so fired up about judgment.

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    He says it's about Israel.

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    Israel's been attacked and plundered, and Israel's going to be restored.

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    Alright, verse 3 and 4 talk about the Babylonians that are coming that God's going to use to attack the Ninevites.

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    "The shield of His mighty men is red.

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    His soldiers are clothed in scarlet.

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    The chariots come with flashing metal.

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    On the day He musters them, the cypress spears are brandished.

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    The chariots race madly through the streets.

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    They rush to and fro through the squares.

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    They gleam like torches.

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    They dart like lightning." So God was mocking Assyria, saying, "Hey, Nineveh, get ready." By the way, He's saying here the Babylonians are ready.

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    And it's going to be horrific.

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    Verse 5, again, speaking to Assyria, to Nineveh, He remembers His officers.

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    They stumble as they go.

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    They hasten to the wall.

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    The siege tower is set up.

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    Again, "Hey, get ready! Hurry up! Get ready!" Because the battle is coming, and the battle is going to be horrific.

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    Number two, the devastation is going to be horrific.

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    The devastation is going to be horrific.

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    The river gates are opened.

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    6, the palace melts away. We talked about that back in chapter 1 verse 8. History buffs.

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    In 612 BC, the Tigris river flooded and the flood actually broke the wall at Nineveh and the Babylonians poured in and slaughtered the Ninevites. To the point I was reading this week, a secular historian records this event. He says it was so bloody, the flood from the tigers that were rushing through the streets were actually tinted red from all of the blood that was slaughtered by the hands of the Babylonians.

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    V. 7 says, "Its mistress is stripped.

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    She is carried off.

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    Her slave girl is lamenting, moaning like doves, and beating their breasts." What in the world is that talking about?

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    He's talking about their God, or more specifically their goddess, which was Ishtar.

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    See the Ninevites had this goddess, and the Babylonians when they attacked the city, they carried off the idols, the slave girls.

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    Those are the temple prostitutes weeping.

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    You see this is a sign of utter defeat.

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    God promised this actually back in chapter 1 verse 14.

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    was a sign of being conquered when an enemy comes in and runs off with your idols. That's like ultimate defeat, right? Like you're this proud powerful city and like, "Hey, how's it going?" Like, "It's so bad that they stole our gods. Can you believe that? Our gods have been stolen! That's pretty bad. That's a bad day when your gods have been stolen." That's like rock bottom, right? You'll You can imagine, right?

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    Okay, thank you both of you.

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    Verse eight, "Nineveh is like a pool whose waters run away.

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    'Halt!' they cry, but none turns back." You see, Nineveh was sort of like this oasis in the desert.

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    And I love this picture because I totally get this picture because now Nineveh is gonna be like, well, he says, "Nineveh is like a pool, waters run away." thought of when I read that? Have you ever seen like an America's Funniest Home videos or something where somebody has one of those big above-ground poles and then somebody comes by and hits it with like their tractor or their Pontiac? What happens right? Whoosh! It just the water just flies everywhere right? And that's the picture that God's using. Not that God used America's Funniest Home videos, but that's the picture here right? When you break a pool the waters just go everywhere and he said that's what's going to happen with Nineveh, when the damage comes, everybody's going to scatter, and there's going to be maybe a couple brave people, they're like, "Wait! Come back! Come back!" And they're not coming back.

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    Right? They're not coming back.

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    That's the picture here.

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    V. 9 "Plunder the silver, plunder the gold, there is no end of the treasure or of the wealth of all precious things." You see, Assyria over the years of their devastation and conquering, They took tons and tons and tons of loot.

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    Now they have a ton to take.

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    That's what he's saying.

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    Oh, you stockpiled your stuff, did you?

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    It's going to go faster than it came.

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    Plunder.

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    In verse 10.

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    Put a bracket on verse 10.

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    I did.

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    The devastation is going to be horrific.

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    Here it is.

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    Desolate.

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    Desolation and ruin.

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    Hearts melt.

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    and knees tremble, anguish is in all loins, all faces grow pale." Empty, devastated, terrified, traumatized.

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    Even with the terrorist attacks we faced in our nation, this is something that even we can barely fathom.

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    Just a complete and utter annihilation to the point that the people are just completely traumatized by how horrific the devastation is going to be.

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    And then finally, just for this part, don't get excited.

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    Number three, the fall is going to be horrific.

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    The fall is going to be horrific.

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    The fall of Nineveh.

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    That's how God concludes this section.

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    He says, "Where's the lion's den?

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    The feeding place of the young lions, where the lion and lioness went, where his cubs were with none to disturb.

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    The lion tore enough for his cubs and strangled prey for his lionesses.

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    He filled his caves with prey and his dens with torn flesh.

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    He's contrasting the height of Nineveh's power to the depth of Nineveh's defeat.

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    He said, "You used to dominate and now you are desolate." And there's a reason all this lion imagery is used.

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    Actually, archeology has confirmed this, that that was sort of a symbol for Nineveh's kings.

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    Right?

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    Just kind of like, you know, the United States has the eagle as a symbol.

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    Well, a lot of the Assyrians and Ninevites had the lion because they were proud and mighty and strong.

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    And God says, "Yeah, you were just like the lion, weren't you?

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    You just went out and you hunted and you tore and you took back to your den and you had this stockpile and none of us like your den and you used to be something.

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    Vicious and prosperous but verse 13, the Lord says, "Behold, I am against you," declares the Lord of hosts, "and I will burn your chariots in smoke and the sword shall devour I will cut off your prey from the earth, and the voice of your messengers shall no longer be heard." This is the promise of destruction.

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    With the worst sentence any person, any nation, the worst sentence that anybody can ever hear is uttered right here.

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    And it's when the Lord says, "I'm against you." We talked about that last week, right?

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    Pride.

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    What does God say about pride?

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    He says, "I'm opposed to pride.

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    I'm against you.

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    And for God to come to Nineveh and say, "Hey, you bit off more than you can chew this time, because now you have my attention." And right now we're sitting in church in 2018 and we say, "Yeah, wow, wow, God's judgment, it was pretty bad back then, wasn't it?" I mean God's judgment in the Old Testament, it was God's, you know, fiery Old Testament God. It was pretty bad back then, but that's like, that's Old Testament and God's not really like that anymore. Right? Please tell me God's not like that anymore. Actually, the Lord has not changed. And truth be told, when it comes to judgment, if the Bible's true, and I believe that it is.

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    When it comes to judgment, the worst is actually yet to come.

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    As horrific as this passage is about this city, it's bad.

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    It's nothing compared to what's coming.

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    Like, well that's certainly not New Testament.

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    Well, I would encourage you, Go home and read Paul's letters to the Thessalonians.

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    I would encourage you to read Peter's epistles.

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    I would encourage you to read Revelation.

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    And you know when you do that, you find here's Paul, and here's Peter, and here's John, all speaking of this horrible wrath that is to come.

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    This horrible judgment of God that is to come.

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    You're like, "Yeah, well those guys were kind of fiery, but not my dear, sweet, precious, calm Mr. Rogers like Jesus, right?" Jesus spoke of God's wrath, or hell, almost twice as much as He spoke of heaven.

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    You know, you could take every prophet and preacher, apostle in the Bible, take all of their teaching on judgment and wrath combined, and Jesus still spoke more about judgment and wrath than all of them.

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    Combined.

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    So maybe in your New Testament fact-checking about judgment, you should read a Gospel or four.

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    When we talk about judgment, yes, there's temporal judgment.

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    That's what we just read here.

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    Temporal judgment.

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    Like in Nahum to Nineveh.

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    It's on peoples and nations.

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    And we see it a lot in the Old Testament.

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    You're being punished now for your sin.

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    But there's also, the Bible says, there's a final judgment at the end of the age.

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    That's Revelation 20 type stuff.

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    a series on judgment, we have to talk about hell.

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    Because there's nothing more horrific.

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    There's nothing that human imagination could come up with that could compare to the reality of what the Bible says, what Jesus said about hell.

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    Hell is a real place.

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    And real people are really going there.

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    You know, in our day, it's been ignored.

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    It's been reduced to a fairy tale.

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    It's cartoon stuff, right?

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    Oh, we see hell on Tom and Jerry, right?

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    It's just this like red place and like the devil's in charge.

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    Both of those are false according to the Bible, by the way.

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    But it's been ignored.

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    That's just fairy tale stuff.

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    Hell's been trivialized.

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    Hell's been trivialized.

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    We make the word part of our common vernacular, so it just sort of loses its oomph, right?

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    We do it all the time.

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    Oh, did you watch the Stanley Cup Finals?

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    Oh, that was a hell of a series.

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    Just trivialize it, right?

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    Did you hear that music?

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    That guitar player up here, the good looking guy here, he's a hell of a musician.

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    We just trivialize it, right?

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    Oh, have you ever been to Stacked across the street?

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    Oh, we went there a couple weeks ago, hell of a burger.

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    And we just keep throwing that word out and it doesn't mean anything.

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    Hell has been ignored, hell has been trivialized, hell has been denied.

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    And I wish I could stand here and say hell has been denied by these blatant false prophets who don't like the Bible.

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    I wish I could say that, but that's not the problem.

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    The problem is there are very popular pastors, preachers, whatever you want to call them, They're very popular.

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    I call them false teachers.

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    They're very popular within the church.

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    These people that proclaim to be pastors and teachers and prophets or whatever, they get up and say, "My God is a God of love and He would never send anyone to hell." And people just swoon over that.

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    Oprah Winfrey's like, "Sign me up for that plan." Like, "Oh, my God is a God of love.

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    And the idea of hell is so archaic and so Old Testament and so this." And people just fawn over that.

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    Do you know why people fawn over that?

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    'Cause that's what they wanna hear.

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    And do you know what you call it when you make up the God that you wanna worship?

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    Do you know what that's called?

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    That's called idolatry.

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    And what you've done is you've reduced, You've reduced heaven to the participation trophy of life, right?

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    We live in the day of participation trophies.

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    Hey, it's happened with our foster kids.

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    You know, our soccer season was like O and 10, but he got a trophy.

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    Why?

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    Because you showed up.

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    And that's how some people treat heaven.

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    Heaven's the ultimate participation trophy.

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    Like I'm going to heaven.

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    Why are you going to heaven?

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    Because everybody goes to heaven.

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    Really?

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    You don't need to love Christ, you don't need to turn from your sin, you don't need to give a rip about God at all, you just magically get the participation trophy called heaven.

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    And you know, when we hear that church, when we hear that again, it's like we're back in the Garden of Eden and we hear the devil's words to Eve directed at us.

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    You will not surely die.

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    You remember that?

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    You will not surely die.

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    "You will not surely die." So I'm going to give you the truth about hell, according to the Bible, and I'm going to give it to you in one sentence.

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    But I'm going to give you the sentence a piece at a time.

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    Okay?

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    So jot this down first of all, hell is a place.

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    Hell is a place.

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    Matthew 8.12, Jesus said, "In that place "There will be weeping and ashing of teeth." Matthew 10.28, Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul.

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    Rather fear Him, God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell." Hell is a place.

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    It's not a construct of the church.

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    It's not a scare tactic.

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    It's not the boogeyman.

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    And not wanting to believe in hell doesn't make it untrue.

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    It's a real place, right?

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    According to the Bible, it is a place.

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    Let's go on with our sentence.

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    Hell is a place of torment.

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    In one sentence, we're just going to keep adding words.

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    Hell is a place of torment.

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    It's described as darkness and fire.

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    It's described as weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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    That's emotion.

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    That's pain.

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    It's torment.

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    The Bible says when an unbeliever dies, his soul goes into hell, which is not the lake of fire yet, but there's a place of torment until the lake of fire, according to what Jesus said in Luke 16.

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    The Bible says when Jesus returns and sets up his thousand year kingdom that the Bible talks about cover to cover.

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    When Jesus returns and sets up his kingdom, believers are going to receive an eternal body for glory.

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    Isn't that good news?

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    This is not the thing I'm taking into eternity and I'm thankful for that, amen?

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    I am in line for a serious upgrade.

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    I don't know why you're laughing, some of you are too.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Just saying.

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    Hey, look, we're all in the same boat, right?

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    We're all in the same boat, we're all wearing out.

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    We're all wearing out.

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    The Bible says very clearly that this body, it's like a seed put in the ground and we're gonna get this new one, right?

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    And this new one is going to be indestructible and it's going to be perfect and we're going to enjoy that for all of eternity.

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    But after the thousand years, the Bible says there's the great white throne judgment And unbelievers - this is Revelation 20 - unbelievers get an indestructible body too.

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    But their indestructible body is indestructible so that it wouldn't be consumed.

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    So that it would suffer forever.

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    They receive an eternal body for the lake of fire.

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    Revelation 20.15 says, If anyone's name is not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

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    Next part of the sentence, "Hell is a place of torment, thirdly, of varying degrees." Did you know that?

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    Hell is worse for some people than it is for others.

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    Like what determines?

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    This is a whole other sermon series, but just for today.

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    The Bible says the more you know about the Lord, about the call to repentance, about what it means to receive Jesus, about what Christ has done for you on the cross, and the resurrection, the more you know, and the more you reject, the worse hell is going to be for you.

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    Many passages talk about this.

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    Here's one, Matthew 11.24, Jesus said, "But I tell you, it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.

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    Remember the story of Sodom back in the book of Genesis, a city so wicked that God's like, "Off the map." That's how wicked they were.

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    And Jesus said, "Judgment's going to be easier for them "than it is for you who are rejecting me." Why?

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    Because Jesus wasn't physically standing and preaching in Sodom the way he was to these people.

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    He says, "You know more, you've seen more, "therefore you are accountable for more." You're accountable for more.

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    And church, you're accountable for what you know.

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    It is an absolutely horrifying thought to think that there are some people sitting here listening to this online that are going to spend eternity separated from God because they refuse to receive the gift that God's given, and we're going to talk about it in a minute.

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    But if I can just step away from the emotion of it all, and the pastor's heart and mindset of, if I can just step back and look at it objectively, I can say this, if you have no intention on receiving Christ, okay?

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    If you're like, look, my mind's made up, I'm never going to receive Christ, I'm never going to get religious or whatever you people call it, I'm never going to be born again, I have no interest in this, then this is absolutely the worst possible place you can be.

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    You should have stayed home.

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    because someday you're going to stand before God and you're gonna be like, "I didn't know, I didn't know." And God's gonna say, "Do you remember that Billy Goat looking preacher, June 10th?" That's how I imagine God must think of me.

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    But God's going to say, "Do you remember?

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    Do you remember you sat there and you laughed at the Billy Goat joke?

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    Remember that?

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    But he also talked about what my word says about what happens for people that reject my gift, for people that exalt themselves thinking they don't need me.

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    Do you remember what he said about that?

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    This is the worst place you could be if you have zero intention on receiving Christ.

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    And if that's your plan, you shouldn't come back.

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    You shouldn't go to any church for fear that you would be exposed to some truth from God's word that you are now accountable for.

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    Because the more you know and the more you reject, the Bible says the worst hell is for you.

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    Going on with our sentence, "Hell is a place of torment of varying degrees that lasts forever." Matthew 25, look at this, look at this.

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    Because this flies in the face of all these false preachers out there, and they're teaching all kinds of things.

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    I've read articles, "Hell hath no fury." There's a whole wave of evangelicalism that's doing away with the doctrine of hell.

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    And there's even some that are saying, I read this article, like hell's temporary.

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    Like you go there and you sort of get your punishment, whatever, but hell's temporary and eventually we all end up in heaven.

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    But I want you to look at this verse.

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    This is what Jesus said.

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    And in light of what Jesus said, does anybody really give a rip what anybody else says?

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    I don't.

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    Jesus talking about the separation of the sheep and the goats.

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    He said these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

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    You have to know that Jesus used the same word here.

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    Did you see this?

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    Eternal, eternal.

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    In other words, hell lasts as long as heaven lasts, according to this statement.

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    True or false?

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    No, that would be true.

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    in 20 some years of being a pastor and all the stuff that I've read and sermons that I've listened to and watched, I have not once, here's something I've never heard, I have never one time heard somebody say, "I believe that heaven is a temporary place." I've never heard that. Yeah, I believe you go to heaven for a while and then, you know, whatever. But I've heard that a lot about hell. Like, Jesus, what do What do you say about that?

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    Jesus said, "Punishment is eternal." And, "Heaven, life, is eternal." Same word. It's the same word.

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    Hell is endless.

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    Other phrases are used in the Bible to describe this.

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    It's a place where the worm does not die.

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    The fire does not go out.

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    Relief is never attained.

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    Hell is a place of torment of varying degrees.

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    It lasts forever.

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    Next phrase in our sentence, "which we all deserve." Which we all deserve.

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    Romans 3.23 says, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." We all deserve hell.

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    And if you think you don't, then you've called God a liar.

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    Because according to His Word, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

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    of the glory of God.

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    Every one of us are born with a sin nature.

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    A self-centered, nobody-tells-me-what-to-do nature.

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    And every sin that you've ever committed, every person that you've ever wronged, every time in your life that you knew what God wanted you to do, but you did what you wanted to do anyways, then you have sinned, you have rebelled, You have turned your back on the holy, almighty God, and for that, you and I deserve His judgment.

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    We deserve hell.

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    All have sinned and fall short.

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    It doesn't matter if you're a murderer or if you're a gossip, you've fallen short.

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    Who's ready for the good news?

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    Here's the good news, last part of our sentence.

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    Hell is a place of torment of varying degrees that lasts forever, which we all deserve, but God does not want us going there.

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    That's the good news.

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    God would be justified to say, "You sinned against me," and ping us straight into hell immediately.

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    He would be justified to do that.

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    But I love this verse, 2 Peter 3, 9 says, "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promises.

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    some kind of slowness, but is patient towards you." Look at this next phrase, I love this phrase.

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    "Not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." Not wishing that any should perish.

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    The worst person you know, whether it's personally or somebody you know of on the media, maybe you have some kind of disdain for some politician or whatever.

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    Think of the, in your mind, who is the worst person or the least deserving of anything person.

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    The Bible says God doesn't even want that person to perish.

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    God wants that person in heaven with him.

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    So yes, God is a God of judgment, but God's also a God of love.

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    He does not want you going to hell, so he provided a way.

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    He provided a way.

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    And the way is to turn from your sin and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

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    Like, why is that the way?

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    Why is that the way to avoid hell?

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    Because when Jesus was on the cross, He was bearing God's wrath on Himself.

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    The wrath that I deserve, the wrath that you deserve.

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    When Jesus was on the cross, he stepped in our place.

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    He said, "I'll take that, punish me.

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    "I'll take that, I'll take the judgment." And when you receive Christ, when you believe that he took God's wrath on himself, God doesn't have any wrath left for you.

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    You're not gonna stand before God someday and God say, "Well, I know you received Jesus, "but I'm still mad at you." The Bible says that God is satisfied with Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

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    So if you believe in Jesus Christ, if you receive Him, the Bible says you will never face God's judgment.

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    Jesus took it on Himself for you.

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    Romans 8:1 says, "There is now therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." If you are in Christ, the judge has slammed his gavel down, He has said, "Not guilty." And who's going to overturn that?

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    If God says you're not guilty, who's going to come along and overturn that?

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    That's why we're big on Jesus around.

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    That's why Christian demonstrated in this tub, he died to himself.

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    That's why water represents a tomb.

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    When he went down there, he said, "I'm dead." When the Christian came up, he said, "I'm identifying with the resurrection of Christ.

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    The life I now live is Christ in me and through me.

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    I am not my own. I was bought with a price." By the way, if there's somebody that needs to take that step, I've got my clothes and towels still up there.

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    You're like, "But I don't have any." That's okay. You'll dry.

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    We can stick around. We'll do this.

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    See me after service.

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    it right here right now it's all set up.

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    But in light of how horrific hell is, is that really something you want to put off? Getting serious about the Lord? Is that really something you want to gamble with? You know when people object to the idea of judgment, the idea of hell, it's It's always for the same reason.

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    They say, "How can a loving God do something?" You know, it doesn't sound very loving.

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    My response to that is, "Hey, hey, hey.

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    God's love is not in question.

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    What more could God have done than He did?

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    Tell me, what more could He have done?

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    Though we sinned and rebelled, He took on flesh, He became a man, He lived among us, He was treated shamefully, and he was nailed to a cross, and laid in a borrowed tomb.

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    What more could he have done to express his love?

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    But somehow when we talk about judgment, God's love is on trial all of a sudden.

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    No, no, no.

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    His love is not in question.

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    What more could he do?

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    Because right now, the way that you're living your life right now, I just want you to think of your life, your typical day, your typical week, the way you're living your life, you are preparing yourself.

    36:28-36:29

    You are preparing yourself for eternity.

    36:32-36:44

    Meaning right now, your life, if you're like, "You know what, I love God, I love God's Son, I love God's people, I love God's truth, I love worship." That sounds to me like you're preparing yourself for heaven, because guess what heaven is?

    36:45-36:47

    God's presence, God's people, God's truth, worship.

    36:50-37:07

    But on the other hand, right now if you say, "You know, I really don't want anything to do with God or Jesus or don't really want anything to do with His people, I'm not really crazy about the Bible, I'm not really into worship." Truth is, you would actually be miserable in heaven.

    37:09-37:10

    You'd be miserable in heaven.

    37:12-37:13

    God's going to give you what you want.

    37:14-37:22

    Now it's obvious the choice that God wants you to make, but the question I have for you this morning is what choice have you made?

    37:24-37:26

    You want to choose not to receive Christ?

    37:26-37:30

    You want to choose instead to receive God's judgment?

    37:30-37:32

    I've got a word of warning for you.

    37:33-37:34

    God's judgment is horrific.

    37:36-37:36

    Let's pray.

    37:37-37:47

    Father in heaven, oh Father, if there was any one doctrine from your word that I could wish away, it would be this one, probably exclusively.

    37:49-37:57

    Father, I admit, I confess to you, there is a part of me that just wishes this wasn't true, just...

    37:57-38:18

    not because I'm doubting your sense of justice, I just can't even wrap my brain around how horrible and horrific this kind of judgment is, that people would choose to accept for choosing to embrace your Son, embrace the forgiveness that you've offered in Jesus Christ.

    38:20-38:23

    But Father, Jesus modeled this.

    38:24-38:24

    He warned us.

    38:24-38:31

    He showed that you need to take a serious look at Him, because the alternative is horrific.

    38:33-38:36

    Father, that's simply what we wanted to do today, was take a look at Your Word.

    38:36-38:39

    And I pray that Your Holy Spirit uses Your Word.

    38:39-38:42

    I pray that You charge somebody today.

    38:42-38:54

    You grab somebody and you shook them, that they would take a hard look, get a reality check, that someday we're all going to stand before you.

    38:56-38:59

    And on that day we can either say, "I accepted your son.

    38:59-39:11

    I accepted your gift of eternal life." Or we can say, "I accept your judgment." Father, we thank you for the incredible love that you demonstrated.

    39:11-39:14

    we sang it earlier, more than I deserve, we don't deserve a thing from you.

    39:15-39:16

    You've given us everything.

    39:18-39:22

    For that, Father, we stand and we praise you now.

    39:24-39:25

    In Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read Nahum 2

  1. Based on cartoons, jokes, and old myths - what are some unbiblical ideas about hell that you have seen / heard?

  2. Why are more and more people, even in the "evangelical church", denying the doctrine of hell, despite what the Bible says?

  3. Paraphrase Nahum 2 in a sentence or two. Why would such a prophecy about Nineveh be preserved for US in God's Word? Why does God want us to know this?

  4. What was your big "take-away" from this message / passage?

Breakout Questions:

Pray for one another!

Questions from the Congregation - Part 2

GENESIS

Why does Genesis seem to have two accounts of creation? Or is chapter 2 an expansion on Day 6? Gen. 2:4 seems to start the account again.

If "death" in Romans 5 is taken as spiritual death as it is in other places in the New Testament (eg John 3:16), what is preventing us from taking the creation account of Genesis 1 - 2 as non-literal? In other words, is there any way God could have created the world not in one week ~6000 years ago?

Who are the Giants of Genesis 6 and will they be back? "As in the days of Noah, so it shall be in the coming of the Son of Man."

REVELATION

What does the Scriptures say about the timing of the rapture of the church? Will it occur before, or at the start of, the end times?

Does the Bible indicate if the antichrist actually knows he is the antichrist?

Satan and ⅓ of the angels fell from God's grace because of sin (him wanting to be God). How can I be sure it won't happen to ME in eternity (I certainly know I'm no angel)? Revelation 7:4 and 14:1,3. Is the number of 144,000 a literal number of those who will be marked with the seal of God? What does this mean? Will only 144,000 people (believers) make it into Heaven?


HEAVEN and HELL

How will we relate/react to our earthly spouse when we are in Heaven?

If God loves all people as His children and is all powerful, how can He allow ANY of His children to be eternally separated from Him in hell?

Is there a purgatory?

I recently heard a message on the radio that said "sheol" is not the same as "hell". It was said that "sheol" is a holding place. Is this where the Catholic religion gets their model for "purgatory"? Also, IS "sheol" different from "hell"?

When someone dies who is not saved and their loved ones say "he/she is in heaven/in a better place", I don't feel that it's the proper time to explain that is just not so (meaning at the time of the funeral/death). What do I say, then, in response to this at this time?

In 1978, Pope Paul (VI) said, "One day we will see our pets in the eternity of Christ" and a few weeks ago, Pope Francis said, "Paradise is open to all God's creatures." Is there any Biblical basis for either of these statements?


DOCTRINAL ISSUES

What is the deal with the apocrypha? Why is it not included in the protestant canon?

If Jesus forgave us for all of our sins on the cross, why does 1 John 1:9 say that we need to confess our sins and then we will be forgiven? What happens if we don't confess? Are we not forgiven? Signed: Confused!

Sermon Notes (PDF): BLANK

  • Pastor Jeff:

    00:00-00:24

    All right, you're going to have to be a fast page turner because instead of a traditional sermon, you know, usually at Harvest Bible Chapter, if you're visiting with us today, we usually go through a book of the Bible, a chapter at a time, verse at a time, and expository preaching, but today we're doing something a little bit different.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:25-00:34

    Today is questions and answer day, a Q&A day, and what we're doing is answering the questions that you asked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:35-00:46

    Over the past, what, five or six weeks, we gave opportunity for people to ask Bible questions, and we were going to take today to answer the questions that you asked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:46-00:52

    So I just wanted to say that up front for any visitors that are here, if you're like, "Is this what you guys do every week?" No.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:53-01:27

    before like what was that a couple years ago and decided today we're going to take another run at it. So I would like to first of all introduce the person he is a man of the people and he is going to be representing the people. This is Darren Miller. He is going to be representing you by asking your questions. So let's get to know our host a little bit. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:27-01:28

    Where are you from?

    Darren:

    01:28-01:31

    I'm originally from Chicora. Does anyone here not know me?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:33-01:40

    Now that is so weird because I grew up in Chicora too. Okay, two rules for Q&A day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:42-01:58

    Two rules. First of all, I'm going to answer the questions according to what I think is What I mean by that is sometimes things get lost in translation from written text to reading it, trying to figure out what exactly is being asked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:58-02:03

    So I am going to answer them according to how I understand the question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:03-02:10

    And my second rule is I'm going to give the short answer because every one of these things could be a 45-minute sermon.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:11-02:13

    So I'm going to give the short answer with some Bible references.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:14-02:37

    And if there's anybody here that's like, "Man, I'd like some more information on that," emails in the bulletin so just email me and say hey can we talk more about this we certainly can do that I'm going to actually set a timer so when the alarm goes off we're going to jump to the last question because I want to end on that one so everybody ready okay go ahead

    Darren:

    02:37-02:48

    Genesis so why does Genesis seem to have two accounts of creation whereas chapter 2 an expansion on day six, Genesis 2.4 seems to start to come again.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:49-03:24

    Yeah, Genesis 2 is an expansion on Genesis 1. To use the modern hipster terminology, I've heard a lot of people say this recently, "Let me unpack that for you." Have you heard somebody say that? "Let me unpack that for you." And I think Moses was the original unpacker here. He was, you know, Genesis 1, "In the beginning God created the heavens in the earth and he kind of runs through creation and when he gets to Genesis 2, he says, "Well, let me unpack that for you," and he goes into more detail specifically about the creation of man and woman and marriage and those kinds of things.

    Darren:

    03:25-03:26

    I have the same question in Genesis.

    Darren:

    03:27-03:39

    If death in Roman spies taken as spiritual death as it is in other places in the New Testament, for example, John 3.16, what's preventing us from taking the creation account of Genesis 1 and 2 as non-literal?

    Darren:

    03:39-03:45

    In other words, is there any way God could have created the world not in one week approximately 6,000 years ago?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:47-03:50

    That is a really good question and that's a question that I get asked a lot.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:51-03:59

    First of all, the second part of that first question, what is preventing us from taking the creation account of Genesis 1 and 2 as non-literal?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:59-04:02

    What's preventing us is the way that it's written.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:03-04:06

    In the Hebrew language, the word for day is yom.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:06-04:15

    And when the word yom is used with a numerical qualifier, meaning first, second, third, fourth, it's always a 24 hour day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:16-04:22

    And when the word yom is used with the phrase morning and evening, it's always a 24 hour day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:22-04:23

    That's consistent.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:23-04:36

    So, if you're reading it straightforwardly according to the language as it presents itself, you can't come up with any other conclusion than the days of Genesis are literal 24 hour days.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:36-04:45

    to Exodus chapter 20, the 10 commandments, remember the fourth commandment is to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:46-04:56

    Well, as God was giving the law to Israel, he was reminding them, I worked for six days and rested on the seventh day, you do the same thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:56-05:03

    Now, if those days in Genesis are periods of millions of years, then none of us can do that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:03-05:08

    You can't work for six periods of millions of years and then rest for a period of millions of years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:08-05:10

    God says, "I want you to do what I did.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:10-05:17

    "You work six, you rest the seventh." So you can't really understand Genesis any other way than literally as it presents itself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:17-05:26

    But the other thing, speaking of language and death, Genesis two, the language is very specific in the Hebrew.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:27-05:37

    Remember when the Lord says, "When you eat off of that tree, you will die." When the original Hebrew, the Lord said to Adam, It's an interesting phrase.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:37-05:42

    He said, "Dying, you will die." If you eat off that tree, dying, you will die.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:43-05:49

    Meaning, it's going to start a process that is going to end with something.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:50-06:01

    In other words, if you looked in the mirror at all, you notice, older people, we are in a process of dying.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:01-06:02

    Physically.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:02-06:03

    Physically.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:03-06:03

    Right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:04-06:07

    Look at some pictures of yourself from when you were a kid.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:07-06:11

    You are on this process, dying, you will die, physically.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:12-06:14

    And death really just means separation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:15-06:23

    We think of death as separation of the body and the spirit, and death spiritually, obviously, separation from the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:23-06:29

    But Genesis 1 and 2 absolutely have to be taken literally.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:30-06:44

    And I could go into all the science for young earth and all the science against an old earth, but really the biggest reason that you have to take Genesis 1 and 2 literally is because the Bible says that Jesus is the second Adam.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:45-06:55

    And if there wasn't literally a first Adam who literally brought sin into the world, then how do we make sense of what Jesus accomplished as the second Adam?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:56-07:08

    So you can't, if you believe the Bible is the word of God, you can't believe in evolution at the same time and insert millions of years into the creation account.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:09-07:14

    Reason being, is because you have to put death somewhere.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:14-07:24

    Meaning this, people that believe in millions of years of evolution believe that over millions of years, things have been growing, evolving, dying, growing, evolving, dying.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:24-07:29

    Because for millions of years, things have been evolving and dying, and then you get to man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:30-07:32

    So you have death before man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:34-07:35

    But the Bible says death came when?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:36-07:37

    Death came after man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:39-07:47

    So if you're a Christian believing that the Bible is the Word of God, you have a real problem inserting the evolutionary mindset into Genesis.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:48-07:53

    Because Genesis is very clear that death came after man, not before man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:54-08:01

    So I would say no, there is no other way that you can make sense of Genesis other than as it's literally written.

    Darren:

    08:01-08:07

    I think one of these questions by the way would make an amazing sermon series let alone you know,

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:07-08:07

    stand up

    Darren:

    08:07-08:08

    and be a preacher.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:08-08:09

    Oh for sure.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:09-08:12

    I'm just trying to reign it in because I could go off on all these things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:12-08:13

    Really good questions.

    Darren:

    08:14-08:17

    Who are the giants of Genesis 6 and will they be back?

    Darren:

    08:18-08:21

    As in the days of Noah, so it shall be in the coming of the Son of Man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:22-08:28

    The giants of Genesis 6, or the Nephilim, they are also mentioned in Numbers chapter 13.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:28-08:32

    The Israelites said that compared to them they looked like grasshoppers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:33-08:38

    They were this group of people that were just physically large.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:38-08:43

    The word actually literally means "fall on," meaning to conquer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:43-08:46

    Like somebody would fall on someone to crush them and conquer them.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:47-08:56

    I didn't really understand how that phrase meant to conquer until I had kids because now when Cade wants to wrestle, my big go-to move is I just lay on him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:56-08:58

    I just fall on him and lay on him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:58-09:02

    And he, you know, he thinks we're wrestling and I'm just like relaxing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:04-09:06

    But that's literally what that means.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:06-09:14

    And as far as, "As in the days of Noah, "so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man." Jesus in Matthew chapter 24, that's where this phrase comes from.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:15-09:16

    I wanna read this real quick.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:16-09:22

    Matthew 24 says, "But concerning that day and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven nor the Son, but the Father only.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:23-09:27

    As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:29-09:35

    For in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the day when Noah entered the ark.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:36-09:39

    And they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:39-09:51

    So will be the coming of the Son of Man." So Jesus making the comparison between His second coming and the days of Noah, notice what He's focusing on.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:51-09:53

    He's focusing on life's going on as normal.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:53-09:54

    Life's going on as normal.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:54-09:59

    People are eating and drinking and getting married and all of a sudden, unaware, judgment comes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:59-10:09

    And just like in Noah's day, many people are going to perish in judgment and many people are going to be saved, just like Noah and his family were saved.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:10-10:14

    I really think that's the parallel that Jesus was making with Him and Noah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:14-10:19

    I don't think Jesus' parallel really has anything to do with those giants that are mentioned in Genesis 6-4.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:19-10:21

    He doesn't mention them at all.

    Darren:

    10:21-10:23

    We're going to skip to Revelation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:24-10:25

    We went from Genesis to Revelation already?

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:27-10:27

    Wow.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:29-10:29

    We're doing well.

    Darren:

    10:30-10:33

    What does the Scripture say about the timing of the rapture of the church?

    Darren:

    10:33-10:38

    Will it occur before, at the start of, or at the start of the end times?

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:38-10:40

    Okay, the rapture of the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:40-10:49

    I believe that the rapture of the church, the church being taken up out of the world, I believe that it happens before the tribulation, and I have three reasons for believing that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:49-10:51

    The first one is Revelation 3.10.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:52-12:04

    Jesus promised the church, listen to this phrase, "I will keep you from the hour of tribulation that is coming on the whole world." So, "I will keep you" means you'll be removed from, "from the hour," meaning a set period of time that is coming, yet future, on the whole world. There's never been a tribulation on the whole world. So Jesus was talking about something yet future He was going to keep His church from. Revelation 3.10. That's the first reason. The second reason is, when you read the book of Revelation, Revelation 2 and 3, are the church, the church, the church, the church, the church, the church, the church, and then the church isn't seen at all until Revelation 19. So the question is, if the church is such a focal point on what God is doing, as the whole New Testament teaches, why do we go through the entire description of the events of Revelation without one mention of the church? And my third reason is, in the book of Daniel, he talks about 70 weeks. And we talked about this when we went through Mark chapter 13, but they were weeks of years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:05-12:14

    And what was it, 483 weeks from the time of the decree in Jerusalem until the anointed one is cut off, that's the death of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:14-12:16

    That's 483 years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:16-12:18

    That was a period of 69 weeks.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:19-12:23

    And Daniel's 70th week is yet future, that's the seven-year tribulation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:25-12:28

    And the 70 weeks of Daniel really focus on Israel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:29-12:39

    It's an interesting thing that the first 69 weeks were before the church came to be, and the last week, the last seven years, are going to come at the very end.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:39-12:44

    Again, the time of Jacob's trouble, mention of Israel, no mention of the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:44-12:50

    And Revelation talks all about Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, just like Daniel's 70th week described.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:51-12:53

    It's going to be a time for Israel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:53-12:55

    Nothing mentioned of the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:55-12:58

    So I believe that the rapture happens before the tribulation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:59-13:00

    Well, that's some

    Darren:

    13:00-13:00

    good news.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:00-13:01

    Amen.

    Darren:

    13:01-13:06

    Does the Bible indicate if the Antichrist actually knows He is the Antichrist?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:06-13:08

    Actually, he thinks He's God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:08-13:11

    Because in Revelation 13, He demands worship.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:12-13:18

    So how much of what the Bible says about Him - His title, His name, His description - does He really know?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:19-13:26

    I would say probably not much in a biblical sense, because if He really knew what the Bible says about the Antichrist, He wouldn't want to be the Antichrist.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:27-13:33

    Because the Bible says, you know, "Lake of fire that's prepared for the devil and his angels." First person to go in there, the Antichrist.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:34-13:36

    And it is not going to end well for him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:36-13:42

    But I don't see in the Bible him having any verse that says he knows he's the Antichrist.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:43-13:45

    But Revelation 13 says he thinks he's God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:45-13:47

    He stands in the temple and demands people worship him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:49-13:51

    So that's in what, Revelation 13, 12?

    Darren:

    13:52-13:58

    Terry asks, "Satan, one third of the angels fell from God's grace because of sin and wanting to be God.

    Darren:

    13:59-14:04

    How can I be sure that won't happen to me in eternity, because I certainly know I'm an angel?"

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:04-14:07

    I love this question because I've asked that question myself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:08-14:59

    If the angels at one point rebelled, a third of the angels rebelled against God, what's to say that sometime eight trillion years into the future of eternity that I might not attitude. Well, the reason that that's not going to happen ultimately rests on the integrity of God's Word. It's hard for us to fathom an existence that doesn't have sin and temptation all around us. But Revelation is very clear that death itself is thrown into the lake of fire. John saw that. What does that look like? I don't know, but John said, "I saw death itself thrown into the lake of fire." So So when that happens, sin and temptation and all of those things that lead to death are going to be gone too.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:59-15:05

    We're going to live in an existence where temptation to sin isn't even possible.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:06-15:09

    And I know that's hard for us to understand because we're surrounded by it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:10-15:21

    But in heaven, sin isn't even a possibility because it's been so, you know, it's been cast into hell forever that death has.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:21-15:25

    And there's not even the possibility of that happening.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:25-15:28

    And my answer to that is it's the integrity of God's Word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:28-15:40

    If God's Word says that's what it's going to be like, then I can just say, "Praise the Lord, but I'm not going to be tempted to be prideful sometime down the road." Apparently, the angels had one chance and they blew it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:41-15:50

    You can either choose to align yourself with the Lord or align yourself with the devil, And you don't see anything in the Bible about the angels being redeemed.

    Darren:

    15:51-15:54

    Revelation 7, 4 and 14, 1, 3.

    Darren:

    15:55-16:00

    Is the number of 144,000 the literal number of those who will be marked with the seal of God?

    Darren:

    16:01-16:02

    What does this mean?

    Darren:

    16:03-16:07

    Will only 144,000 people or believers actually make it into heaven?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:08-16:10

    I'm going to answer that last question first.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:10-16:12

    Will only 144,000 make it into heaven?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:12-16:17

    Jehovah's Witnesses believe that, that only 144,000 people go to heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:17-16:20

    Everybody else stays on the newly restored earth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:21-16:25

    Many years ago, Aaron and I ran into a Jehovah's Witness lady in Big Lots, remember that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:25-16:27

    It was date night, we were in Big Lots.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:28-16:33

    We ran into this Jehovah's Witness lady and she started evangelizing us.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:33-17:01

    She said, "I just hope that I'm one of the 144,000." And I said, "Oh, are you Jewish?" And she said, "No, I'm a Jehovah's Witness." And I was like, "Pshh." The 144,000 in Revelation 7 and 14, those are 12 ,000 people from each of the tribes of Israel that God is going to use during the tribulation to evangelize, to do His work.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:02-17:03

    His seal is on them.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:03-17:05

    What that means is He has them marked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:05-17:08

    And you see them at the beginning of the tribulation, and you're going to see them at the end.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:09-17:11

    I believe those people are going to be indestructible.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:12-17:16

    Through everything else that's going on through the tribulation, you see those people making it through.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:16-17:21

    But those are Israelites that God redeems and uses to do His work during the tribulation.

    Darren:

    17:22-17:24

    I read Heaven and Hell now.

    Darren:

    17:25-17:30

    First question is, "How do we relate or react to our earthly spouse when we leave Heaven?"

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:30-17:33

    That's a great question. It's also another very common question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:34-17:39

    Because people think, "Well, I couldn't imagine being in Heaven, and you're not my wife.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:40-17:41

    I just don't understand that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:41-17:52

    Well, heaven is a completely different set of way of living that Jesus said we'll be like the angels, that sexuality is not going to be a thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:52-17:55

    We're going to have perfect relationships with everybody in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:57-18:10

    So as much as I love my wife now, I'm going to love her even more in heaven because even the love I have now is coming from a person that's still living in sinful flesh, in a sinful world.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:11-18:22

    And when all of that's removed, I'll love her even more perfectly, but I'll love everybody in heaven perfectly because there will be no temptation to sin.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:22-18:30

    There will be no, no love will ever be tainted with ulterior motives or I'll love you if you do this for me or whatever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:31-18:35

    Your relationship with your spouse is going to be even better than it is on the earth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:36-18:39

    It's just that the whole sexuality thing doesn't exist in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:40-18:48

    And I know that's hard to fathom because that's stuff that we've known our whole lives on the earth, but that's what Jesus said, we'll be like the angels.

    Darren:

    18:49-18:56

    If God loves all his people as his children and is all powerful, how can he allow any of his children to be eternally separated from him in

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:56-18:56

    hell?

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:57-19:03

    This is a very emotionally charged question and a lot of people really struggle with this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:05-19:11

    I think the idea that people have is like, God's up in heaven going, "You won't worship me?

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:11-19:15

    "Fine, I'll show you, I'll send you to hell." And it's not like that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:16-19:23

    You know, Romans chapter nine talks about vessels of wrath fitted for destruction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:24-19:31

    It's talking about people going to hell, but in the Greek, that phrase literally means vessels of wrath that fitted themselves for destruction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:32-19:35

    That hell is a choice that people make.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:35-19:40

    And I know that's so hard to fathom, but really hell is the choice that people make.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:41-19:42

    It's a it's a choice.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:42-19:43

    I don't want anything to do with God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:44-19:47

    I don't want anything to do with God's truth, God's people, God's love.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:47-19:48

    I don't want anything to do.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:48-19:51

    Can I just live my life apart from all of that stuff?

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:52-19:54

    Hell is God giving those people what they want.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:55-19:58

    You know, in the Bible talks about how it talks about people gnashing their teeth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:58-20:06

    I don't believe hell is a place where people are going, "Oh, I so regret not coming to Jesus." I don't think that happens in hell at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:07-20:09

    Gnashing your teeth is anger at someone.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:10-20:12

    People in hell are furious with God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:13-20:17

    They're spending eternity not, "Oh, I'm so sorry.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:17-20:23

    I wish I had another chance." They're spending their eternity in ultimate bitterness towards God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:24-20:24

    Let's be honest.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:25-20:33

    If somebody doesn't love God's people, God's truth, God's ways, God's presence, those people are going to be miserable in heaven because that's all it is 24/7.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:35-20:39

    I believe that the Bible is pretty clear that people send themselves to hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:39-20:40

    It's a choice that they make.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:42-20:43

    What else could God have done?

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:43-20:46

    He came to the earth himself in the form of a man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:47-20:49

    He died on our behalf.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:49-20:50

    He rose from the dead.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:51-20:56

    God literally did everything He could possibly do and said, "Here's the free gift of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:57-20:58

    We don't have to work for it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:58-20:59

    We don't earn it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:59-21:03

    We don't have to buy it." God has handed us the gift of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:04-21:12

    So for somebody to say, "I don't want your gift," as hard as it is to come to grips with that, they're making the choice to go to hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:13-21:15

    The Bible says it's God's will that none should perish.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:15-21:16

    God says, "Here's a gift.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:16-21:19

    I want you to take it." God's not up in heaven going, "Turn or burn.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:19-21:20

    I don't care.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:20-21:34

    right or get left doesn't matter to me. God's in heaven saying, "I want you so desperately to take this gift of salvation. Will you please receive my son by faith?" If people are unwilling to do that, God's not to blame for that.

    Darren:

    21:35-21:36

    Is there a purgatory?

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:37-21:52

    No. Next. Just kidding. A couple of references, draw it down. 2 Corinthians 5.8, the apostle Paul says to be absent from the bodies, be present with the Lord. And Philippians 1.23, Paul says he has a desire to depart and be with Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:53-21:58

    The Bible is very clear, when somebody dies, they are immediately in the presence of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:58-22:03

    Okay, the Bible never talks about an intermediate state, a sleep state, a purgatory.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:04-22:06

    The concept itself is blasphemous.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:07-22:15

    Because what you are saying is, when Jesus was on the cross and he said, "It is finished," what you are saying is, "Jesus didn't do enough.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:16-22:21

    I have to go to a place and suffer for my own sin because Jesus didn't suffer enough for my sin.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:22-22:23

    That's blasphemous.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:24-22:26

    That's what purgatory is, by the way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:27-22:39

    It's the teaching that you go to this place where the sin is burnt off of you, these fires burn sin off of you, and you're there for years and decades, and we've got to pray, and we've got to give money to the church to get you out of there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:40-22:42

    That is a doctrine from hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:44-22:48

    It undermines the atoning work of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:49-22:51

    It is a way that the church has made money.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:51-22:55

    Not this church, but it is a way that some churches have made money.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:56-22:57

    You know, Grandma's burning.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:58-23:00

    If you give money, we'll pray to get her out of the burny place quicker.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:01-23:03

    No, there's no purgatory.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:04-23:05

    The Bible is so clear on that.

    Darren:

    23:06-23:12

    I recently heard a message on the radio that said, "Sheol is not the same as hell." It was said that Sheol is a holding place.

    Darren:

    23:12-23:14

    Is this where the Catholic religion gets their message?

    Darren:

    23:14-23:17

    as a model for purgatory, also, is Sheol different?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:19-23:19

    Ok, Sheol.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:21-23:22

    Sheol is not the same thing as hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:23-23:25

    And it's not where the idea of purgatory comes from either.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:28-23:32

    Sheol just means "the grave." Sheol's kind of a generic term really.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:33-23:36

    You see it in the Old Testament many, many, many, many times.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:36-23:38

    It just refers to the grave.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:39-23:42

    You know, when they say somebody died, it was a euphemism.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:42-23:43

    They went to Sheol.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:43-23:45

    they went to the place beyond.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:45-23:49

    Now, here's a fancy theological term for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:50-23:51

    Progressive revelation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:51-23:52

    Do you know what that is?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:52-23:53

    Progressive revelation?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:53-23:58

    What that means is this, when Adam and Eve sinned, God wasn't like, "Oh, you sinned.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:59-24:06

    Here's the plan of redemption." And gave everything about Jesus Christ, the cross, the resurrection, the Holy Spirit.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:07-24:10

    God didn't just dump that all on Adam the moment he sinned.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:11-24:14

    God revealed his plan for salvation over time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:14-24:17

    He killed an animal so that they would have skins to cover themselves.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:17-24:21

    And then, you know, there's the time of the patriarchs where God called Abraham.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:21-24:23

    And then we get to the Mosaic Law.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:23-24:31

    God was God was unfolding his plan of redemption over time, which culminated in the arrival of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:32-24:37

    So understand in Old Testament times, they didn't have the revelation that we have about heaven and hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:38-24:50

    So a lot of times they would just when they talked about death, they talked about Sheol and one of the most important verses in the Old Testament actually talks about Sheol and that's Psalm 1610.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:51-24:57

    It says, For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol or let your holy one see corruption.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:57-25:03

    That's like the most important verse in the Old Testament, because that's the verse that prophesies the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:03-25:12

    What that's saying is, you're not going to leave your Messiah in the grave in Sheol or seek corruption, meaning, you're not going to let your Messiah rot.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:13-25:14

    He's going to raise from the dead.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:14-25:16

    So Sheol is really just a generic term.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:16-25:17

    It just means the grave.

    Darren:

    25:18-25:24

    When someone dies who's not saved, your loved ones say, he or she is in heaven or in a better place.

    Darren:

    25:24-25:27

    I don't feel that's the proper time to explain that it's just not so.

    Darren:

    25:28-25:30

    Meaning it's time to...

    Darren:

    25:30-25:33

    Who do I say in response to this at that time?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:34-25:35

    That is a really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:36-25:39

    Yeah, you do not want to be insensitive at a time like that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:41-25:42

    So first of all, I agree.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:43-25:47

    It is not the proper time to say, "Oh, Grandma died.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:48-25:49

    Did Grandma believe in Jesus?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:50-25:51

    Well, no, Grandma wasn't really a church person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:51-25:56

    I think Grandma's in hell." No, that's not the time for that, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:57-26:01

    What you say is, "I am so sorry for your loss.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:02-26:03

    I know how much she meant to you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:04-26:07

    How can I pray for you?" End it, okay?

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:07-26:11

    Not, you don't wanna do, obviously you don't wanna say grandma's in hell.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:12-26:15

    Also, if you don't know, you don't give the promise that she's in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:16-26:19

    Like, "Oh, grandma never saw the inside of a church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:19-26:20

    Grandma never heard the gospel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:20-26:22

    Grandma never cracked the spine on a Bible.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:22-26:25

    Oh, she's probably in heaven." You don't do that either.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:25-26:25

    Why?

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:26-26:31

    Because if that person's not a believer, what you're telling them is, you don't gotta do anything to go to heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:31-26:33

    Basically, all you gotta do is die and you're there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:33-26:35

    Just like grandma, grandma didn't do nothing, she's in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:36-26:40

    No, the gospel's about receiving eternal life in Jesus Christ, amen?

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:40-26:46

    So you don't give people a false hope, nor do you hellfire and brimstone.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:46-27:00

    I've preached a lot of funerals in my time, and if the person was not a believer, what I do when I get up to preach, I say, at a time like this, our hearts and minds instinctively turn to the Word of God for answers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:00-27:04

    And I would like to share with you what the Bible says about God's plan for redemption.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:05-27:05

    And then I share the Gospel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:06-27:11

    But I don't ever, you know, personalize that for that person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:11-27:11

    So no.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:12-27:13

    I am sorry for your loss.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:13-27:14

    I am so sorry for your loss.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:16-27:17

    How can I pray for you?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:17-27:18

    Just leave it at that, please.

    Darren:

    27:19-27:34

    In 1978, Pope Paul said, "One day we'll see our pets in the eternity of Christ." A few weeks ago, Pope Francis said, "Paradise is open to all God's creatures." Is there any biblical basis for human status?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:36-27:39

    Is my pet going to be in heaven is what this boils down to.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:41-27:49

    You know there's really only one verse in the Bible that even remotely addresses it, Ecclesiastes 3.19 I think?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:50-27:50

    Right, is that right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:50-27:51

    Yeah, Ecclesiastes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:52-27:53

    And even that's kind of vague.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:53-27:59

    What it says is, Solomon says about the spirit of man going upward and the spirit of beast going downward.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:59-28:09

    But even that, you can't build a doctrine around that because Ecclesiastes is sort of a philosophical what would life be like if we didn't regard the Lord kind of thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:09-28:17

    So I don't think Solomon's like, in this chapter I'm going to give a doctrine about, I don't think he does that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:18-28:19

    Do animals have souls like we do?

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:20-28:21

    No, they don't.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:21-28:24

    Can animals receive redemption?

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:25-28:26

    No.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:26-28:27

    Do animals sin?

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:28-28:32

    Not like we do, you know, willingly making a choice to rebel against our Creator.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:33-28:40

    I do know for sure that heaven will be lacking nothing, nothing at all that would promote our happiness or joy in the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:41-28:46

    Can God have animals in heaven, create animals in the new heaven and earth?

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:46-28:47

    God can do anything.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:48-28:55

    But the Bible does not explicitly say, "My dog will be waiting for me in heaven." It just doesn't say either way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:55-29:04

    I'm inclined to believe that animals don't go, just because it's part of death on the earth and they're not redeemed in the sense that human beings are redeemed.

    Darren:

    29:06-29:14

    Doctrinal issues. What's the deal with the Apocrypha? Is it not included in the Protestant King?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:15-29:17

    I don't know who wrote this question, but I love how it's written.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:17-29:20

    Can you read it again like Jerry Seinfeld?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:20-29:25

    "What is the deal with the Apocrypha? Your Bible's not big enough?"

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:26-29:27

    [Laughter]

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:29-29:33

    The Apocrypha was written about 300 BC to 100 BC.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:34-29:37

    They're Jewish in origin, but even the Jews don't regard them as authoritative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:38-29:47

    In fact, in the Apocrypha, I think it's in 1 Maccabees, it even says that these writings were done in a time that there were no prophets in the land.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:48-29:51

    So even the Apocrypha itself doesn't claim to be authoritative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:52-30:03

    And when Jesus, in Luke 24, I believe it is, Jesus talked about Moses and the prophets as prophesying about him, there was no mention of the Apocrypha.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:03-30:06

    In fact, there's nothing in the Apocrypha that's quoted in the New Testament.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:07-30:08

    Jesus never quoted it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:08-30:09

    Paul never quoted it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:10-30:13

    It's just it's not authoritative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:14-30:21

    The authorship is largely unknown and even itself, the books themselves don't even claim to be authoritative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:22-30:24

    So I have so much more.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:24-30:28

    There's even some unbiblical doctrines that are taught in the Apocrypha.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:28-30:31

    We can't hold them in the same regard as Scripture.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:32-30:33

    So let's skip to the last question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:34-30:36

    We have so many questions that we don't cover.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:37-30:41

    I'm going to put in a blog on our website and you can go through and read there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:41-30:43

    I'm so sorry if we didn't get to your question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:43-30:46

    I was just trying to categorize them by type and get through as many as we can.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:47-30:49

    Unless you want to stay here all day, we can do all of them.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:50-30:51

    Let's just jump to the last one.

    Darren:

    30:52-31:01

    All right. If Jesus forgave us for all of our sins on the cross, why does 1 John 1, 9 say that we need to confess our sins and then we'll be forgiven?

    Darren:

    31:01-31:03

    What happens if we don't confess?

    Darren:

    31:03-31:04

    Are we not forgiven?

    Darren:

    31:05-31:05

    Signed confused.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:06-31:10

    That's like "Dear Abby." Signed confused in Cleveland.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:11-31:12

    Dear confused in Cleveland.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:13-31:17

    1 John 1:9 A lot of preachers preach that this way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:17-31:25

    Like, Christian, if you sin, and you confess your sin to God, God will forgive you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:25-31:26

    And that sounds good.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:28-31:30

    The only problem with that is what if you don't confess your sin?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:31-31:31

    Does it mean you're not forgiven?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:32-31:36

    Like hypothetically, let's say that I'm having a really good day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:37-31:43

    And I lose my temper and I yell at my wife, which is sinful, on my way out the door.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:43-31:46

    And I get in a car and I die in a car accident.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:46-31:48

    But I didn't have time to confess that sin.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:48-31:50

    Does that mean I'm going to hell?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:50-31:51

    Because that sin's not forgiven?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:52-31:54

    Because I didn't confess it?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:55-31:57

    I don't think that that's what that means at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:59-32:03

    1 John 1:9 I believe is primarily an evangelistic verse.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:04-32:11

    You know, when Paul and John and Peter, when they wrote their epistles, they would have been read to a church in a setting like this, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:14-32:16

    The elder of the church would have got up and said, "Hey, we have a letter from Paul.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:16-32:17

    Let me read it to you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:17-32:18

    We have a letter from John.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:18-32:37

    Let me read it." And in any church, you're going to be addressing Christians and non-Christians, and I believe the first John 1.9 is an address to non-Christians to say, he goes on to talk about the blessings that we have in Christ, and he addresses his little children in the faith, and talks about loving one another.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:38-32:49

    But I think he's starting off this writing by saying, "Listen, none of this is possible without Jesus Christ." So if you're hearing this, and you don't know him, I got some good news for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:49-32:54

    If you confess your sin, He is faithful and just to forgive.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:55-32:58

    So I believe that's primarily an evangelistic verse.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:58-33:08

    And I wanted to close on that question, actually, because there might be some people here today that are like, you know what, I hear what you're saying about heaven and hell and salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:08-33:13

    And I don't know where I stand with the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:14-33:29

    I have some great news for you because the Bible says, no matter what you've done, no matter who you are, no matter how badly you've blown it, no matter how badly you've messed things up in your life, God is the God of second chances.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:30-33:33

    And that promise in 1 John 1, 9 is for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And if you've never received Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, that promise is for you.

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    Christian, what about me?

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    Like what if I sin tomorrow?

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    How do I know I'm forgiven?

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    When Jesus died on the cross, how many of your sins were in the future?

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    All of them, right?

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    So guess what?

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    The sin that you commit this afternoon has already been forgiven.

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    The sin that you commit tomorrow is already forgiven.

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    The sin that you commit next week, next month, 10 years from now, Christian has already been forgiven.

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    That's why the Bible calls us to live in the forgiveness of Jesus Christ.

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    We should be resting in him to say, "I'm a child of God, and I know that I'm forgiven." And do Christians confess their sin?

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    Yeah.

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    You know, the Bible says we should confess our sins to one another, and certainly we should confess our sins to God, but that's not so that God forgives us again.

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    It's just saying, "God, I'm sorry I messed up, and God, can you help me to avoid that temptation in the future?

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    God I want to be a better representative of you but sin does not for the Christian sin does not mean suddenly you're disqualified you need forgiven again and sadly I know people that believe that it's this umbrella theology that if you confess your sin you're forgiven then when you sin you're out from under God's protective umbrella and I've heard preachers say this if you If you die in that state, you're going to hell.

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    Is that God?

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    Really?

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Really?

    Pastor Jeff:

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    God's going to send me to hell because I had a bad day and I said something mean to my wife I shouldn't have.

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    Is that God?

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    No, God says you are not guilty.

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    He, Romans 8, 1, "There is now therefore no condemnation for those who are in Jesus Christ." When you give your life to Jesus Christ, when you receive Him as your Lord and Savior, God says you are forgiven.

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    You are my child and according to Jesus nothing, John chapter 10, nothing can take you from his hand.

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    Nothing.

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    Not even your own sin because you've already been forgiven.

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    If you're sitting here today going, "Wow, that sounds like an awesome promise." That promise is for you too.

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    It is God's will that none should perish.

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    Act 17 says God commands all men everywhere to repent.

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    So that promise is for you.

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    And like I said, we're going to cover the rest of the questions online.

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    But you know, we're working our way through another holiday season, and a new year is going to be upon us.

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    And if you're sitting here today, and you don't know where you're at with Jesus Christ, today's the day.

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    Today's the day.