Questions from the Congregation - Part 16

Note: The time signatures [00:00] below indicate the start of a question if you'd like to skip to a particular one of interest in the audio file.

  1. [02:45] - Q: What does scripture say about one world currency?
    A: See Revelation 13:16-17 - Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

  2. [6:18] - Q: If you could experience any moment in The Bible as an observer what event would you witness?
    A: Lazarus being raised from the dead by Jesus. No wrong answers here.

  3. [09:12] - Q: How do you break generational curses?
    A: See Exodus 34:6-7 - The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.”
    See Ezekiel 18:20-23 and 1 Corinthians 15:33

  4. [15:31] - Q: How long after the birth of Jesus did the 3 wise men appear? Most nativity scenes have them there along with the shepherds. Matthew 2 says they arrived about the same time as his birth. Some have told me they arrived more than 1 year after his birth which would beg the question, what did they do in Bethlehem all that time.

    A:
    See Matthew 2:11 - And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh. Matthew 2:16 - Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, became furious, and he sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under, according to the time that he had ascertained from the wise men. See Matthew 2:2

  5. [21:26] - Q: Romans 13:3a → “For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong.” This is backwards these days. 12:21 says not to be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with good. So, we are to fight. Why don't we? Or are we to passively accept evil rulers?

    A: It is God who puts up and takes down kingdoms. We war by praying.

  6. [28:58] - Q: Are there any verses in the Bible that speak against a multiverse theory (as an explanation for why our universe is so finely tuned)?
    A: The only reality that we are aware of is the one that God created.

  7. [32:07] - Q: Is there an “Age of Accountability”?
    A: See Numbers 32:11, Psalm 51:5, Jonah 4:11
    There is an age, but it differs on a person by person basis. There has to be a point in your life where it’s possible that you can understand and make a decision whether you are going to follow and accept or reject Christ in your life.

  8. [36:55] - Q: If we are called to forgive everyone, should we forgive the devil? Is that our place to do that?
    A: Forgiveness is about the healing of a relationship. God doesn’t forgive everyone because not everyone wants to fall into a right relationship with God.

  9. [40:51] - Q: Why should we bring children / babies into the world? Especially if we are in the end times.
    A: See Gen 1:28, Gen 9 - We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth.

  10. [42:35] - Q: If it took the Council of Trent to determine the Old Testament, how can we as Christians be assured there are not some books missing from the Old Testament and/or the Bible as a whole?
    A: See Luke 11:51 - from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary.

    Any question that was missed due to time constraints during the service Pastor Jeff will address the answer
    on the blog.

  • Andrew:

    00:00-00:08

    Edmund's story but the little I do know of decades of missions and pastoral experience. I'm excited to hear from you today. So I'll let Pastor Jeff introduce you more, but here we go.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:11-00:57

    We do have to give a little bit of an honor because for those of you that have been around here before, we do Q&A like once or twice a year and Mark Ort, one of our elders, and he's been a friend of mine for a very, very, very long time, but he's usually up here with me because Mark Ort and I did prison ministry together and we did this all the time every week. Well Mark was unavailable this week And this guy here late in the week I'm like you know what we have a guy 40 year missionary in Germany and I'm like Edmund surely has and he's done this before right? 20 years? I thought you said 40 years. 40 years of ministry 20 was in Germany I beg your pardon I thought all 40 was in Germany Man, all right, well, we'll strike that from the video.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:58-01:00

    All right, well, where were the other 20 years?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:01-01:02

    California.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:03-01:04

    Oh, that's worse than Germany.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:05-01:05

    (laughing)

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:06-01:06

    Sorry.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:08-01:10

    All right, I have much more respect for him now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:12-01:19

    He went from a really, really, really dark place far away, and also he went to Germany.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:21-01:25

    But anyways, so I reached out to Mark Like I said, he wasn't available.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:25-01:29

    I'm like, hey, I was thinking about asking Edmund, and he said that would be an excellent choice.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:29-01:33

    And it was kind of late in the game, so I really appreciate Edmund stepping in.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:33-01:36

    So if you would just show him some love and appreciation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:39-01:41

    So Edmund, why don't you have a seat?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:45-01:46

    Let's look at some of the questions.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:46-01:48

    Do we need to set the timer on the?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:51-01:52

    We need to set a timer?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:52-01:53

    We're good.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:53-01:57

    All right, so I'm gonna lay some ground rules, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:57-02:09

    The rules are this, we can only, well, first of all, if you are a first-timer, these questions were submitted by the congregation over the past month, and we can only answer what we think you're asking, okay?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:09-02:22

    So if you submitted the question and we take a swing at it and you're like, "That's not what I meant at all," see me privately and we can talk more about it, but we can only answer the questions according to what we think is being asked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:23-02:28

    And we are going to attempt to give the shortest and most simplest answer possible.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:28-02:28

    Why?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:29-02:31

    Because there were 10 questions submitted.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:31-02:36

    And honestly, if we gave all of these questions the time they deserve, we would miss the Steeler game.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:36-02:39

    So every one of these were great questions.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:39-02:39

    Right, Edmund?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:40-02:41

    We could spend a lot of time on these things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:42-02:43

    So let's get to it, my friend.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:44-02:44

    What's up first?

    Edmund:

    02:45-02:46

    Question number one.

    Edmund:

    02:47-02:51

    What does the scripture say about the one world currency?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:51-03:01

    Okay, now interestingly, there is not a verse in the Bible that says, "There shall be a one world currency." There's not a verse that says that, right Edmund?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:02-03:16

    But that principle is drawn out because Revelation chapter 13 says, we went through the book of Revelation here in the church, talking about the antichrist and the false prophet and the mark of the beast and all that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:16-03:28

    It causes all the small and great, both rich and poor, both slave and free to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark that is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:28-03:51

    So we certainly see the principle there that if there's going to be this worldwide control of the economy to the degree that nobody globally, because we know that this tribulation is globally, nobody globally can buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast, then that necessarily implies there has to be some sort of one world currency.

    Edmund:

    03:53-06:14

    Yet at the same time we've got to consider since it doesn't say it literally in the Word of God but we see through church history it has come through because the Bible talks about types like Joseph being a type of the Savior his brothers remember sold them out and then he ends up being the Savior of the world at that time while there's different types and there's types of Antichrist the Bible and 1st John says there's many but here in our recent Bible studies at the church there was in Luke chapter 2 Caesar Augustus who was Octavius but his name is Augustus at this time he made a census and through the census he did the Bible tells us he did too. And when you would go to Ephesus, which is in Turkey, if you would walk down the promenade, at that one point, this is when the persecution was going, they would put Christians on poles and light them on fire for light. But if you would go into the marketplace to buy or to sell, he had a subscription on the entrance that says, "Caesar is the son of God and you had to agree with that to be able to buy or sell so you have a tight and yet on the second census because he's down numbering the known kingdoms of the world and it was all for financial gain and power so you have a type of Antichrist it's there there's many other ones throughout history so we see there is something coming.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:53-06:14

    Absolutely you see how that is possible right like you know this you know we see little you know examples of it in history but it's preparing us because John says that there are you know many Antichrist but there's one big one coming it's sort of like that with this that we see little pockets of how such a thing as possible but there's going to be a global you know restriction you won't be able to buy or sell unless you worship the Antichrist.

    Edmund:

    03:53-06:14

    And the ability is here the Sequoia supercomputer to be able to do the calculations for every transition, it's been here.

    Edmund:

    06:14-06:16

    In fact, there's probably even a faster computer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:16-06:17

    >> Yeah, absolutely.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:18-06:18

    All right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:18-06:19

    What have we got next, Edmund?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:21-06:27

    Before you ask this one, this could be my favorite question ever asked in Q&A day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:28-06:34

    And when I was talking to Mark when he was planning on being here, he said the same thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:34-06:37

    He said this could be my favorite question ever in Q&A day. So...

    Edmund:

    06:37-06:47

    It says, if you could experience any moment in the Bible as an observer, what event would you like to witness?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:47-06:48

    Isn't that a great question?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:49-06:55

    We don't know who submits these unless they put their name, but I, you know, whoever did this, that is such a great question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:55-06:56

    And you know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:57-07:04

    The first thing that I thought of when I read this, you know, the first thing I thought of, the event that I would like to see would be the resurrection of Lazarus.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:04-07:05

    Wouldn't that have been awesome?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:05-07:21

    Could you imagine being there and like people are crying and he's in the tomb and here comes Jesus and Jesus like, "Roll the stone away." And they roll the stone away and Jesus, "Father, I thank you that you always hear me." And Lazarus come out, could you imagine?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:21-07:28

    And then here comes Lazarus, like, oh, that had to have been just like one of the most mind-blowing things anybody has ever seen.

    Edmund:

    07:29-07:31

    Glory!

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:29-07:31

    So to me, it would be like the resurrection of Lazarus.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:32-08:06

    That that to me was just that that would have to be absolutely just... What about you?

    Edmund:

    07:32-08:06

    Well, according to prophetic words that come from our bible there's a day even as we see the development of what we're seeing today there's going to be at one world government with armies being led by evil man called the antichrist at one point in the time future to now invade Israel and to the city of Jerusalem.

    Edmund:

    08:06-08:16

    And that is when the long-awaited time of Christ to come back, and he comes back like a movie to rescue his people.

    Edmund:

    08:17-08:25

    And he will stand on the Mountain of Olives, and it will quake, and he will end up destroying the Antichrist.

    Edmund:

    08:25-08:41

    But in that time when he does come down, of Israel will see the piercings in his hands and they will recognize that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. How glorious is that gonna be?

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:41-09:35

    Amen yeah yeah I don't and I don't know if there's really a wrong answer to this one I mean could you imagine all the things we can think about like I was talking to my wife about this like watching David kill Goliath you know could you imagine being there to see that whole scene or you know being their creation you know when God was like let there be and boom there it was and there's just yeah such a good question and yeah I think lots of great answers what do we got next Edmund?

    Edmund:

    08:41-09:35

    We got a good one here. How do you break generational curses?

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:41-09:35

    Okay generational curses just to sort of define in case Again, we're trying to assume what's being asked here, but for people that might be like, "What do you mean by generational curses?" Well, it's the belief that your actions affect your offspring.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:36-09:46

    And that some people believe that when you do wrong, God is going to punish your kids and your grandkids for the wrong that you did.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:46-09:48

    And I don't believe it exactly works that way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:50-09:54

    But biblically it is true, like for example, what do we have?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:54-10:27

    Exodus 34, "The Lord, the Lord, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children to the third and fourth generation." Now, Edmund's going to clarify this here in a second, but it's not as if God's going to say, "Okay, I'm punishing you for your father's sin." Edmund's going to explain that in a second.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:28-10:33

    So when I think of the generational curse, this is something that we see all around us.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:34-10:48

    You know, and we don't need for anybody to shout out examples of this at all, but you've seen it in families where there's a certain sin tendency that seems to be passed on.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:49-10:59

    Meaning, like, dad is an alcoholic and an abuser, the son has the tendency to do that, to treat his wife that way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:59-11:08

    Or somebody with a sexual addiction or perversion has a child that has something similar.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:08-11:13

    So you see how the sin tendency does get passed down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:14-11:17

    And the question is, how do you break that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:18-11:19

    Well, you know, good news.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:20-11:23

    We live under the new covenant of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:24-11:37

    The prisoners are set free and bonds are broken because the blood of Jesus Christ doesn't just atone or cover our sin, Jesus takes away our sin.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:37-11:41

    So there is healing and wholeness in Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:41-11:45

    So that's how that's broken, is only through the blood of Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:46-11:54

    So Edmund, would you please, I know you, and some of the stuff you prepared, were talking about the way the generational thing works.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:54-11:55

    Would you please share with us, please?

    Edmund:

    11:56-12:11

    Well, in contrast to that thought that you're automatically guilty, the next generations, we have in Ezekiel 18, verses 20 to 23, It says, "The person who sins will die.

    Edmund:

    12:12-12:19

    "The son will not suffer the punishment "for the father's guilt, nor will the father "suffer the punishment of the son's guilt.

    Edmund:

    12:20-12:26

    "The righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, "and the wicked of the wicked will be upon himself.

    Edmund:

    12:27-12:38

    "But if the wicked person turns from all his sins, "which he has committed, and keeps all my statutes "and practices justice and righteousness, "He shall surely or certainly live.

    Edmund:

    12:39-12:40

    "He shall not die.

    Edmund:

    12:40-12:45

    "All his offenses which he has committed "will not be remembered against him," very key.

    Edmund:

    12:46-12:50

    "Because of his righteousness which he has practiced, "he will live.

    Edmund:

    12:51-13:04

    "I do not take pleasure in the death of the wicked," declares the Lord God, "rather than that he would turn from his ways "and that he would live." So this is important, we see a difference here.

    Edmund:

    13:05-13:09

    And so when it comes to generational curses, it's true.

    Edmund:

    13:10-13:17

    That's why a lot of Christianity, it's not so much taught, it's caught.

    Edmund:

    13:19-13:23

    When mom and dad practice it, the kids pick it up.

    Edmund:

    13:24-13:29

    If a parent ain't practicing it, but he's telling his kids, be a Christian, that doesn't work.

    Edmund:

    13:30-13:32

    Usually that ends up being rebellion in the end.

    Edmund:

    13:33-13:45

    So we're seeing that when it comes to that guilt or that sin, curse if we want to say it, what we see is in the end, it's the consequences that affect that family.

    Edmund:

    13:46-13:56

    And consequences, same temptation that brought down your parents will end up bringing down most likely the kids because that was normal in that household.

    Edmund:

    13:57-14:04

    So I think this is more rather than the guilt and the condemnation that comes with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:05-14:06

    Absolutely, yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:07-14:14

    And I mean, you see that, like I said just so many times, just the tendency of the father.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:15-14:16

    You see that scripturally, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:17-14:25

    You remember Abraham fell into some sin, lying about his wife, and then what did his son do?

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:25-14:54

    Like almost the exact same thing right? And what like how did how did he learn that? It's I think that's how the Generational thing works. We have this tendency to carry on the sins of our fathers.

    Edmund:

    14:25-14:54

    First Corinthians 15:33 says do not be deceived bad company corrupts good morals. So we see that it changes us who we hang out with You know, we're many times guilty by association Right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:55-14:57

    That's what you know, we tell that to our kids, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:57-15:31

    We're like you you act like the person the people that you're closest to so That's true. I mean look at your friends if your friends are a bunch of knuckleheads. You're probably a knucklehead. Right in a nice way.

    Edmund:

    14:57-15:31

    In a nice way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:57-15:31

    Yeah, we mean that in the good Christian way Right Edmund at least that's how I met it I don't know about him but that's that's how I'm meant it.

    Edmund:

    14:57-15:31

    But what you break it, it is personal repentance.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:57-15:31

    Yes, that's it personal personal Yeah, absolutely.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:31-15:34

    All right. What do we got next?

    Edmund:

    15:31-15:34

    Next one is...

    Edmund:

    15:35-15:42

    Christmas yes, here's a Christmas one Says how long after the birth of Jesus did the three wise men appear?

    Edmund:

    15:43-16:02

    Most Nativity scenes have them there along with the shepherds. Matthew 2 says they arrived about the same time as his birth some have told me they arrived more than a year after his birth. which begs the question. What did they do in Bethlehem all that time?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:03-16:39

    All right. Excellent question, because it is confusing because when you see a nativity scene The the the Magi are there the wise men are there and there's always three of them and they have their gifts This year I saw a picture somebody posted online of a little nativity scene they had in their house, and the caption above the scene says, "My mom still hasn't noticed." So I'm looking very closely at this nativity scene, and somebody stuck an action figure of Yoda from Star Wars.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:40-16:43

    And you know, he's wearing the tan and he's bent over.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:43-16:50

    And I'm like, "That's hilarious." So for sure, Yoda was not at the nativity scene.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:51-16:57

    But the other truth is, neither were the Magi.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:57-17:12

    And we know that because Matthew 2 says that at this point, Jesus and his earthly parents, it says, and going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:13-17:33

    But then verse 16, it says, "Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, became furious," look at this, it says, "and he sent and killed all the male children of Bethlehem and all in that region who were two years old or under." So he didn't just randomly pick that number, he got that time from the Magi.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:33-17:50

    So he's like, "If I'm going to kill the king that was born, I have to get all the babies that were two and under." And so it's because of that that we realize that Jesus was obviously born at this point, but He was under two years old at this point.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:50-18:02

    But the truth is the Bible doesn't say exactly how old He was, and we don't know how long the Magi were in Jerusalem or Bethlehem because they went to both places, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:02-18:17

    They started in Jerusalem and ended up in Bethlehem. So the Bible just doesn't give us a timeline there Edmund.

    Edmund:

    18:02-18:17

    Yes in Matthew 2:2 - is a little key Information here says they asked where is he who has been born?

    Edmund:

    18:18-18:21

    So the Lord is already born now.

    Edmund:

    18:21-18:37

    How long is the question? We do not know and Yet at the same time We got to ask this questions. We got it. We got to have a series of questions because these three wise men They came from Persia What we do know is that?

    Edmund:

    18:38-19:00

    Daniel out of coming out of Babylon went into the Persian Kingdom kept in captivity as well he is believed the one that brought up the order of the Magi's and And so he would have been looking toward the Messiah to come about this star, 'cause it's mentioned in the word of God.

    Edmund:

    19:00-19:13

    And so as this order of Magis, we even get the word magistrates from Magi, they would come because they were considered king makers.

    Edmund:

    19:13-19:19

    They would be part of making the next priests and also the next kings.

    Edmund:

    19:20-19:26

    So they were into all this understanding and kind of prophetic things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:26-19:28

    They were like doctors and astrologers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:28-19:33

    They were a whole, the pharmacists, they were a whole lot of things rolled into one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:33-19:34

    Very important people.

    Edmund:

    19:35-19:53

    So here we have them coming, and if they were under that order of Daniel, who was looking, because we know Daniel, remember Daniel, especially chapter nine, He's talking about even the day, Palm Sunday, literally to the day.

    Edmund:

    19:54-19:58

    So it's all about numbers, exact timing of everything.

    Edmund:

    19:59-20:07

    So he knows that prophecy's gonna come to fruition, but how much more the birth.

    Edmund:

    20:08-20:16

    And so Daniel understands, he teaches these Magi's this whole thing about a coming Messiah for the whole world.

    Edmund:

    20:17-20:20

    So no doubt, I don't think they were dragging their feet.

    Edmund:

    20:20-20:22

    I think they were there on time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:23-20:38

    Yeah, and you know, that's where you get to watch, because some of the images and depictions that we see can sort of, I guess, subconsciously shape our theology, but we think that there were three of them, and we don't know how many there were.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:38-20:42

    We think there were three because it says there were three gifts, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:42-20:47

    So we just assume that each one brought one gift, And in some traditions even have their names.

    Edmund:

    20:48-21:01

    There is, actually in Germany, in the city of Cologne, there's a big cathedral, there's this golden chest, beautiful golden chest, and supposedly the three heads of the wise men are in that chest.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:02-21:02

    Really? - Yes.

    Edmund:

    21:03-21:05

    I got a picture, I'll have to show you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:07-21:09

    Is there any way we can get that picture up on the screen?

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:10-21:14

    I think we all wanna take a gander at the three wise heads.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:15-21:17

    So, wow!

    Edmund:

    21:17-21:20

    Remember, they were into relics in that time in Europe.

    Edmund:

    21:21-21:23

    Anything that had power behind, so.

    Edmund:

    21:23-21:25

    Three heads of the wise men, that's pretty powerful.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:28-21:29

    All right, what do we got next, Edmund?

    Edmund:

    21:29-21:30

    This is a good one.

    Edmund:

    21:31-21:35

    This is something that I think a lot of people are thinking about.

    Edmund:

    21:36-21:40

    And it comes from Romans 13, verse three.

    Edmund:

    21:40-21:47

    It says, "For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong.

    Edmund:

    21:49-21:54

    And then the question says, this seems to be backwards in these days.

    Edmund:

    21:55-22:03

    According to Romans 12, 21, it says not to be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with good.

    Edmund:

    22:04-22:08

    So are we to fight or don't we?

    Edmund:

    22:09-22:13

    Are we to passively accept evil rulers?

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:13-22:28

    Okay, when it says, "Overcome evil with good," I don't see that as a call to fight a wicked government because the subject of government doesn't come until chapter 13.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:29-22:36

    Chapter 12 focuses on personal relationships, specifically personal relationships in the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:37-22:56

    So when it says, "Overcome evil with good," it's not saying, "Okay, they're evil, I'm good, so I need to overcome them." What that's saying is, "When someone does evil unto me, I don't retaliate with more evil." It's not like revenge and retaliation and eye for an eye.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:57-23:17

    It's, "Okay, I'm going to overcome your wickedness with acts of righteousness, with things that would imitate Jesus." You know, by the way, we're not exactly pioneering new territory as a culture and having wicked rulers, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:18-23:30

    Because you realize there's a whole lot of people throughout history, even biblical history, that lived under wicked rulers, like Moses, Elijah, Paul.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:32-23:33

    How about Jesus Himself?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:34-23:37

    You know, we just spent three years in the Gospel of John.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:37-23:41

    Jesus lived under, you know, an extremely wicked government.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:43-23:48

    And, you know, we don't see them being revolutionaries to overthrow the government.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:48-23:54

    There was a submission even to a very evil government.

    Edmund:

    23:54-24:15

    And that's important to understand, because remember Nebuchadnezzar thought his kingdom, which it was, it was amazing, It's the gold part of the statue that was in the vision, yet he had to learn that it is God who puts in kingdoms and takes down kingdoms.

    Edmund:

    24:16-24:24

    So that's one thing, and we're all in this plan of God, and really we're just sojourners here.

    Edmund:

    24:25-24:30

    And we're here to really make a choice for God or against him.

    Edmund:

    24:31-24:47

    And this is one of the things, because when it comes down to this point of do we fight and do we kill or not, well, the commandment, the sixth commandment, it's more thou shall not murder, not thou shall not kill, because we see in scripture there is killing.

    Edmund:

    24:47-24:48

    David killed Goliath.

    Edmund:

    24:49-24:50

    Elijah killed the false prophets.

    Edmund:

    24:51-25:10

    So there is, we gotta get certain things right and not go in the wrong direction, because even I in Germany, because I can understand the German culture, what happened there in World War II with Hitler and all that, they're against war, at all means against war, and they call it evil and wrong.

    Edmund:

    25:10-25:21

    But then I had to tell them, wait, be careful on that point because we see in Revelation 1911, Jesus is coming back to earth to make war with the Antichrist.

    Edmund:

    25:22-25:24

    And I go, so is Jesus sinning?

    Edmund:

    25:25-25:27

    And now they don't know what to say.

    Edmund:

    25:28-25:34

    You see, we gotta really look at the Word of God and what it's saying and not our own feelings and opinions.

    Edmund:

    25:35-25:36

    Very key, very important.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:37-25:45

    Yeah, and as far as passively accepting evil rulers, as long as we have the power of prayer, I don't think we're ever passive, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:46-25:47

    You know, so.

    Edmund:

    25:49-25:51

    But again, what does the Lord says?

    Edmund:

    25:52-25:54

    Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:54-26:01

    Right, and what is our responsibility to the government, the Bible says that we should be praying for those that are in those positions. So...

    Edmund:

    26:01-26:22

    Well, that's the thing. You know what? Uh, that is, that's a very key point because most Christians, in all the years of ministry, I've been California or Germany, prayer meetings are the least attended thing of all church ministry.

    Edmund:

    26:24-26:32

    And so if we're really wanting to deal with this system, then we need to come together and pray against the system.

    Edmund:

    26:33-26:36

    Because at Nehemiah, that's what he did.

    Edmund:

    26:36-26:41

    When you look at all the different things in scripture, they prayed against evil, okay?

    Edmund:

    26:42-26:44

    We're in a spiritual battle, the Bible tells us.

    Edmund:

    26:45-26:49

    So how we war is through prayer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:50-26:52

    That's right, that's right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:52-27:03

    We saw Jesus correcting Peter when he pulled the sword out and thought he was gonna hack his way through revolution, right, and put your sword back.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:04-27:06

    If you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:06-27:08

    And Jesus healed Malchus.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:09-27:14

    So yeah, we're not without resources as long as we have the power of prayer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:15-27:17

    Really, prayer's not the power of prayer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:18-27:21

    It's communication with the one who has the power, right?

    Edmund:

    27:21-27:23

    But protection of your family and so forth.

    Edmund:

    27:24-27:31

    To kill, it's just, it means literally in the Ten Commandments, thou shall not kill.

    Edmund:

    27:31-27:33

    But it's not, that's not correct.

    Edmund:

    27:34-27:35

    It's thou shall not murder.

    Edmund:

    27:35-27:39

    But to kill, it would be, okay, it means cause someone to die.

    Edmund:

    27:40-27:47

    So if an evil is coming against your family and you're protecting them, that is a righteous act according to the Word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:47-27:49

    Yeah, and the Bible makes a clear distinction there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:49-27:51

    Murder is fueled by hate.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:52-27:57

    Premeditated, I hate you, I'm plotting to eliminate you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:57-27:58

    That's murder.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:59-28:00

    And yeah, that's different.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:00-28:04

    If you're coming after my family and I'm defending my family, I will kill you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:04-28:05

    And that's not murder.

    Edmund:

    28:05-28:11

    But the key thing is, each human is made in the image of God.

    Edmund:

    28:11-28:26

    And God holds that as a high standard before we make a decision about killing or anything like that because there's many people in life that repent.

    Edmund:

    28:28-28:31

    They've done evil things and they come to repentance.

    Edmund:

    28:32-28:44

    You know, and so this is where we don't understand, but the one thing I do understand is this, 'cause I lived on the evil side before in my BC days.

    Edmund:

    28:45-28:51

    And the thing is, the mercy you pour out is the mercy that you're gonna be given.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:52-28:54

    The measure you use, we measured back.

    Edmund:

    28:54-28:55

    That's right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:56-28:57

    Don't ever forget that.

    Edmund:

    28:57-28:57

    Amen.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:58-29:02

    Let's move on because we do have some more good questions here.

    Edmund:

    29:03-29:05

    Here's one, very interesting one.

    Edmund:

    29:05-29:14

    It goes, there are many verses in the Bible that speaks against a multiverse theory as an explanation of why our universe is so finely tuned.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:16-29:22

    The Bible doesn't really speak for or against that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:22-29:33

    There are really no verses that speak of like, if I'm understanding the question correctly, there are really no verses that speak about multiple realities.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:35-29:41

    And I would say the only reality that I'm aware of is the one that the Bible addresses.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:42-29:57

    And in this reality, God created this perfect world, and man, you know, well, obviously tempted by the devil, eve, sin, leading Adam to willfully sin, bringing sin into the world.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:57-29:59

    And that's why we are all born with a sin nature.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:00-30:06

    You don't ever have to teach a child how to do wrong, lies, steal, cheat.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:06-30:07

    They know how to do that inherently.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:08-30:10

    Who teaches their child how to do that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:11-30:11

    Like, nobody.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:11-30:22

    You'd be a monster if you sat down and son, let me tell you how to lie and sneak through life You'll get ahead you'd be the worst parent ever. So how does your kid know how to do that if nobody's teaching?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:22-30:45

    It's because we're born with this wicked sinful rebellious nature in us. That's that's how we are we're born with a bent to sin and the Bible says that God is a God of just justice and if he was going to give us what we deserve He would send us to hell apart from His presence because we rebelled against a holy God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:46-30:57

    But God loved the world so much that He sent His Son to die, to take our sin on Himself, and rose from the dead to give us the promise of eternal life.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:59-31:19

    And the way that you are reconciled to God and have your sin taken away and have the promise of eternal life, whenever your days are done on the earth, you have this promise of heaven, eternal life starts now, but you have the promise of heaven, the way that you receive that is through faith.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:20-31:21

    Taking God at his word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:21-31:23

    I believe that Jesus is who he said he is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:24-31:26

    I believe that he accomplished what he said he would accomplish.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:26-31:30

    And I am turning from my sin because I see how it dishonors you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:30-31:34

    And I'm crying out, God, please forgive me based on the blood of your son.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:35-31:37

    please forgive me for my sin.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:37-31:46

    And when you do that, you become a child of God, you become a co-heir with Christ, and you receive eternal life and you have the promise of heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:47-31:48

    That's the only reality that I'm aware of.

    Edmund:

    31:49-31:50

    Amen, amen.

    Edmund:

    31:51-31:53

    And I would say all atheists are willful atheists.

    Edmund:

    31:54-32:05

    They don't wanna believe, they will try to find a way to make an excuse to everything except God of the Bible and what he's done.

    Edmund:

    32:06-32:16

    So the next question is a good question 'cause many people ask this question and that is, is there an age of accountability?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:18-32:24

    Okay, so there is, but I don't think there's a magic number, okay?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:25-32:26

    Now, what is age of accountability?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:26-32:34

    What that means is at some point in your life, you are responsible for making the decision on whether you're going to accept or reject Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:34-32:38

    There has to be a point in your life where that's possible, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:38-32:39

    Just think about it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:39-32:45

    When you're a baby, when you're just born, right out of the womb, are you able to accept or reject Christ?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:45-32:45

    Well, obviously not.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:46-32:47

    What about when you're a toddler?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:47-32:48

    Obviously not.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:48-32:49

    Do you see where this is going?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:49-33:05

    At some point in your life, you reach a point where you understand, I am a sinful person and I need God's grace, and I see what he's done through Jesus, and I have to accept or reject that at some point in your life.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:05-33:13

    Now, the age of accountability thing, there are principles like scripturally, Numbers 32:11.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:14-33:42

    Remember, because of Israel's persistent, hard-hearted sin, God got to the point where He said, "Those that are 20 years and older are not going to enter the Promised Land except for Joshua and Caleb, and those younger than 20 are going to enter." So there's the principle there, you know, that God says the older generation is gonna die out in the wilderness, the younger generation, innocent, not being held responsible for that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:42-33:45

    But 20 is not the magic number, okay?

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:45-33:52

    So if you're like this teenager that knows better, and you're like, well, I can just do whatever the heck I wanna do because I'm not accountable yet.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:54-33:56

    I kind of pumped the brakes on that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:57-34:13

    But there's no magic number, but at some point in your life, you have to make that decision for yourself because at some point, the lights come on, you know, I'm guilty of sin and I see what God's done.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:13-34:17

    And I think it's gonna be different from person to person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:17-34:18

    I mean, what do you think?

    Edmund:

    34:18-34:22

    Well, the first thing is to realize what the word of God does say.

    Edmund:

    34:22-34:30

    Remember, David said this in Psalms 51,5, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin my mother did conceive me.

    Edmund:

    34:31-34:36

    So we know of the Adamic sin nature that all men, women inherit.

    Edmund:

    34:37-34:43

    So when we understand that, then we know where we have to have a savior.

    Edmund:

    34:44-34:46

    So that is the thing.

    Edmund:

    34:46-34:56

    So we know that there's a time where the human has an ability to understand the predicament, where they're at.

    Edmund:

    34:57-35:09

    And we know that God's heart is for his creation, that it's fallen and it's in this place of a need of a savior.

    Edmund:

    35:10-35:11

    And so this is what we see.

    Edmund:

    35:11-35:14

    We see God's love, his grace, and his mercy in our lives.

    Edmund:

    35:14-35:19

    And we see his heart, I think, in the book of Jonah.

    Edmund:

    35:19-35:22

    Let me read this, chapter four, verse 11.

    Edmund:

    35:23-35:29

    And God, because remember, Jonah, He wants the place to fry, you know, he wants fire to go down.

    Edmund:

    35:30-35:52

    So we see God's heart here and God says, "Should I not pity Nineveh, that great city "in which there are more than 120,000 persons "who cannot discern between their right hand "and their left hand?" See, God understands these little ones, they don't know yet.

    Edmund:

    35:53-36:01

    And so there is a time and a place of the understanding, and that does vary from child to child.

    Edmund:

    36:01-36:17

    And we do know one thing is the Jews, they have their estimate, and that is 13 years old, that they believe, they have these little things, like the Song of Solomon, they don't believe a Jewish man should read that 'til after the age of 30.

    Edmund:

    36:17-36:23

    So they have these little things, because it's so romantic that they, you know, I'm down over there on that book.

    Edmund:

    36:23-36:28

    So you got these little rules, but is it literal for everybody?

    Edmund:

    36:29-36:38

    So each person, especially on this one, you see God's heart, he wants them to understand, but he knows there's a time when they don't.

    Edmund:

    36:39-36:50

    So we just gotta leave it to that point of where that one child, and of course, no one comes to an understanding unless the Holy Spirit awakens them.

    Edmund:

    36:51-37:07

    And that's key.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:51-37:07

    Right on well, let's um, let's we go just a few more here. Let's go through these quickly Speed round.

    Edmund:

    36:51-37:07

    Okay, if we are called to forgive everyone should we forgive the devil? Is that our place to do that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:10-37:25

    uh, I Know I know where this question came from because it was submitted like two or three times and I Should we forgive the devil?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:27-37:35

    And I think the mindset behind this is, okay, we're called to forgive everyone.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:36-37:45

    So we get this idea that forgiveness means no matter what you do to me, it's okay.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:46-37:47

    And I'm okay with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:47-37:49

    And you're fine by me.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:49-37:53

    But biblically, that's not really what forgiveness means, is it?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:53-37:56

    Forgiveness is a healing of the relationship.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:56-38:04

    It is, "You've wronged me, and you owe me." And forgiveness is, "You no longer have that debt.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:05-38:17

    I'm freeing you of that debt." So forgiveness is much more multifaceted than, "You can do whatever you want to me, and I'm cool with that." Forgiveness is about the healing of a relationship.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:18-38:21

    And whoever asked this question, I would ask them to think about it this way.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:23-38:25

    Does God forgive everybody?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:26-38:32

    Now, there's something in us that immediately wants to say, "Yes, God forgives everybody." Hold on, does He?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:33-38:34

    Does God forgive everybody?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:35-38:37

    And the answer is no.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:38-38:43

    Now, is the offer of forgiveness available for everyone? Yes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:43-38:45

    But that doesn't mean everyone takes it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:46-38:53

    God doesn't forgive everyone because there are people that refuse to come into a right relationship with him through Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:53-39:07

    And if God forgave everyone, that means heaven is full and hell is always and eternally going to be completely empty because everybody's forgiven. So forgiveness is much more than just this passive, you know, do what you want kind of thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:08-39:15

    And the devil, though, being a fallen angel, he falls into a completely different category even than than humanity.

    Edmund:

    39:16-39:18

    Yeah, 'cause he was a high-ranking cherubim.

    Edmund:

    39:19-39:23

    So you need to understand the orders of the angels.

    Edmund:

    39:23-39:32

    And yet, as a cherubim, we see that he rebelled and he brought a third of the angels with him in this rebellion.

    Edmund:

    39:32-39:34

    But you gotta understand one thing.

    Edmund:

    39:35-39:40

    He, according to Ezekiel and other scripture, he was perfect at one point.

    Edmund:

    39:41-39:53

    And so from him to decide with the heart to be able to decide, he chose to go against God in rebellion, but he was already perfect, so he's confirmed in that way that he is.

    Edmund:

    39:54-39:55

    We are much different.

    Edmund:

    39:55-39:56

    We are born sinners.

    Edmund:

    39:58-40:39

    We already have death on us when we come out of the womb, but through the grace of God, we're able to be born again and come to life, to eternal life, and then we are right now, when we accepted Christ, the beginning of sanctification, separating the evil out of our life and all those practices, but there's a day, either through death or through the rapture, we will be like Jesus, the Bible says in 1 John, and that means, that speaks of our glorification, and we will be like him, therefore we cannot sin, and we'll be confirmed in that.

    Edmund:

    40:39-40:42

    So we won't, in heaven, have to worry about sinning.

    Edmund:

    40:42-40:46

    will be confirmed in this point of perfection.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:47-40:47

    Right on.

    Edmund:

    40:48-40:49

    Awesome, happy for that day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:49-40:50

    That is awesome.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:51-40:51

    All right, two more.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:52-40:54

    We're gonna get through these quickly here.

    Edmund:

    40:54-41:00

    Why should we bring children or babies into the world, especially if we live in the end time?

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:00-41:01

    Okay, easy.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:02-41:06

    We are commanded to multiply and fill the earth twice.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:07-41:11

    Genesis, what, chapter one, verse 28, and again, Genesis chapter nine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:12-41:12

    That's the commandment.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:14-41:18

    So I don't see anywhere in the Bible where God took it back.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:18-41:21

    Like fill the earth, and then he's like, okay, you can stop now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:22-41:27

    No, so if you can have babies, have as many babies as you can.

    Edmund:

    41:28-41:30

    Amen to that, I read to that.

    Edmund:

    41:30-41:50

    And also you gotta realize is that the scriptures are clear when it's a believer involved in this childbearing, even if you have a non-believing spouse, that child is separated or sanctified by the Lord to be, it's actually the word holy.

    Edmund:

    41:51-41:59

    So we have to see that God really looks toward the children 'cause remember, they are made in his image.

    Edmund:

    42:00-42:02

    So that's very important to keep in mind.

    Edmund:

    42:02-42:29

    And at the same time, all of us, no matter what age we're living in, We're all gonna have trials and tribulation

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:02-42:29

    Right on! Yeah, that's we don't know I mean, I do believe we're in the end times and Jesus could come back today tonight next week We don't know but we're called to just live a life faithfully until he does return and You know building the earth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:31-42:45

    I Believe that's still a valid command All right last one.

    Edmund:

    42:31-42:45

    Last one. If it took the Council of Trent to determine the Old Testament How can we as Christians be assured that there are?

    Edmund:

    42:45-42:59

    Not some books missing from the Old Testament or the Bible as a whole?

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:45-42:59

    We get a lot of questions regarding Canonization, you know, how did these all these books turn into?

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:59-43:08

    Like this Bible that we have on our laps in our pews And regarding the Old Testament, just very quickly, Jesus verified the Old Testament.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:09-43:12

    He quoted from at least 14 different books.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:12-43:15

    Jesus acknowledged people as being real, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:15-43:18

    Jesus talked about them as real people, not fables or fairy tales.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:19-43:23

    I believe in the Old Testament because Jesus believed in the Old Testament.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:24-43:30

    And actually the Old Testament was already a completed unit in Jesus' day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:31-43:34

    He verified that. Luke 11, 51 is one example.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:34-43:48

    Jesus says, "From the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the sanctuary." And you're like, "Well, how does that verify things?" Well, in the Jewish Scriptures, you see, our Old Testament is in a different arrangement.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:48-43:55

    But the way the... it's the same books in the Jewish Scriptures, in the Jewish Old Testament, exact same books, but they're arranged differently.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:56-44:07

    And in the way the Jewish books were arranged, One of the first events in the Old Testament was the death of Abel, and one of the last events in the Old Testament was the death of Zechariah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:08-44:11

    So it was sort of Jesus putting the bookend on that, verifying that.

    Edmund:

    44:12-44:20

    I think very important too is to realize that our Bibles came from the Jewish people, not the Europeans.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:20-44:21

    Right.

    Edmund:

    44:21-44:31

    That's key, because Trent was really a response from the Catholic Church against the Protestant movement that was now happening in the 1500s.

    Edmund:

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    And so they were trying to, because there was a separation going on about what is truth, and there always has been.

    Edmund:

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    There's been different movements, the Anabaptist movement, or in German, or Switzerland, it's the Vita Taufa, to be baptized again.

    Edmund:

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    That was, you were put to death by the Lutherans, or the Calvinist of that time, they put them to death, Christians putting Christians to death because of a doctrine.

    Edmund:

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    So this is why we have to be careful and we have to go back to what the Jews said and not just men and their movements.

    Edmund:

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    Movements could be wrong.

    Edmund:

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    As sincere as they wanna be, as sincere as Mormons and being faithful to get in those bicycles and go all over the world.

    Edmund:

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    They're not gods, they say they're gods.

    Edmund:

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    They're sincerely wrong when it comes to those type of doctrines.

    Edmund:

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    So we have to be really careful on this and stay to what the word of God says.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And like I said, canonization is a topic that we could talk about for hours and hours and hours with authorship and it wasn't like, This is authoritative because we accepted it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:52-45:56

    We accepted it because it is authoritative.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And there was a whole process that was involved in that that unfortunately we don't really have time to get into today.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    But regarding the Old Testament specifically, it was a canon by the time Jesus was preaching and teaching from it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:12-46:21

    So as our worship team comes forward, I want to thank Edmund for helping me out here, especially at this...

    Pastor Jeff:

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    What a blessing it is for our church to...

    Pastor Jeff:

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    We have Mark, who's such an amazing leader and elder in our church, unavailable, and we have this rock star get up here, pinch-hitting and doing a phenomenal job.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    I thank you so much, Edmund. I'm going to pray.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And I appreciate you taking the time to do your studies and do this with me here in Q&A Day.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Father in Heaven, we thank you that your Word has the answers.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And Father, we're not a group of people that are afraid to ask things.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    We are not a group of people that put certain things off limits.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    We don't talk about this. We don't ask about this.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    This is a taboo subject.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    "Father, we believe that You have all the answers and we run to You.

    Pastor Jeff:

    47:16-47:20

    And when we don't know, we seek and we search and we study.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And I thank You so much that You've given this church the elders and leaders that we have that are able to step up and help us understand how important doctrine is and how important it is to truly understand what your Word says and sort out the lies that are being promoted, things that people say your Word does say that it actually doesn't.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Father, we want to be true to what you revealed to us because we believe that your book is the Word of God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    47:54-47:57

    And we want to believe it, we want to proclaim it.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Father, we want to pray it back to you.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Father, we want this to be the means by which You continue to sanctify us, and grow us, and teach us about the heart of the God who saved us.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    So Father, we again thank You for these amazing questions that were offered up, and we thank You for Your Word that gives us the answers.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):

Review the questions submitted above. Discuss any of these that stuck out to you, or that maybe your group finds particularly interesting.

Breakout Questions:
Pray for one another!

Baby's First Christmas - The Perks of Waiting

Introduction:

What Happens to Me When I Wait on the Lord (Luke 2:36-38)

  1. My Woes become Small . (Luke 2:36-37)
  2. My Worship becomes Authentic . (Luke 2:37)
  1. My Witnessing becomes Natural . (Luke 2:38)
  2. My Waiting becomes Worth it. (Luke 2:38)

Hint: Highlight blanks above for answers!

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    Open your Bibles up to Luke 2.

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    If you do not have a Bible, you are welcome to the one that's in the seat in front of you.

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    You can keep that as a gift from your friends at Harvest Bible Shop.

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    Luke 2.

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    While you're turning there, let me ask you, what's the worst part of Christmas?

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    Having to clean up?

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    I'm sure you have a lot of people with you on that one.

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    You know what, let's just, we'll just go around the room and everyone can give their own answer.

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    I love it.

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    I love it.

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    And some of you right now are like, man, that is like really grinchy of you to come out of the gate, like for Christmas service.

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    The kids were so beautiful.

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    They sang so nice.

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    The music was amazing.

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    And what's the worst part of Christmas?

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    Is it the fruitcake?

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    Is it the fruit?

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    Is that still a thing?

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    Is it?

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    People still do the fruitcake thing?

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    Wow.

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    (laughing)

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    Is it the lame office party?

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    Is that the worst part of Christmas?

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    Is it the pressure to find the absolute most perfect gift for someone?

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    I'm going to tell you what the worst part of Christmas is right now.

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    This is not even up for debate, this is objectively true.

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    The worst part of Christmas is waiting for it!

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    At least, that's what I thought when I was a kid.

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    When I was a kid, leading up to Christmas, anybody else like me?

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    Leading up to Christmas, the minutes seemed like days!

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    And I don't know how it happened, and I don't know when it happened, but I became somewhat of an adult, and now the days seem like minutes.

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    Did that happen to anybody else?

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    So today we're gonna continue looking at those who were there when Jesus was a baby.

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    And on Sunday, Rich walked us through the story of Simeon, who gave the weirdest baby dedication speech ever.

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    Luke 2:34, it says, "Simeon blessed him and said to Mary his mother, 'Behold, this child is appointed for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign that is opposed.

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    And a sword will pierce your own soul also, so that thoughts from many hearts may be revealed.'" And then suddenly, right there is Anna.

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    Look at verse 36.

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    It says, "And there was a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher.

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    She was advanced in years, having lived with her husband seven years from when she was a virgin." And then, as a widow until she was 84, she did not depart from the temple.

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    Worshipping, with fasting and prayer, night and day, and coming up at that very hour, she began to give thanks to God, and to speak of Him to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem.

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    I had to read through this a few times to try to figure out what was going on because here's Simeon giving this prophetic speech and then suddenly Anna just, apparently, she just shows up.

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    She just walks right up.

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    I have to ask, how did she get there?

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    And then I look at her story here and I think, Why is she even in this story, right?

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    But even asking that question reveals something.

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    You know, if Luke told us the Christmas story that Jesus was born, God becomes a man, and the most important people of the day showed up.

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    All of the celebrities, all of the athletes, of the politicians. If that was the story, here comes all your LeBron James and your Beyonce's and here comes the president, you'd be like, well that makes sense because God's here.

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    But he mentions this lady.

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    And we really only have three verses about her, but in those three verses we We learn five things about her very quickly.

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    We learn she's a prophetess.

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    There's very few prophetesses in the Bible.

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    Like, well what does that mean?

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    Well we don't know exactly what her ministry detail looked like, but we can be sure that she was close to God, and she ministered to people in His name.

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    We know that she was Jewish.

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    And then thirdly, we know that she was advanced in years.

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    She was advanced in years.

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    Now that's the Bible's very dignified way of saying what?

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    Okay, you said it.

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    She was a senior citizen.

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    And you know, there's something sorely lacking in our culture, and that's respect for the previous generation.

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    And I had a whole thing written about this for tonight, and I'm going to save that for another time.

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    But I do just want to say this, don't dismiss such people.

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    Don't dismiss the previous generation.

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    Because God didn't.

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    Anna was one of the very few people mentioned in God's Word that was present when Jesus was an infant.

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    The fourth thing we know about her is she spent all of her time worshiping at the temple.

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    And the fifth thing we know about Anna is she represents a particular group of people.

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    Look at verse 38 again.

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    It says, "She began to speak of Him - speak of the Lord - to all who were waiting for the redemption Jerusalem.

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    She represents a group of people who were waiting for the redemption of Israel.

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    These are Jews who believed in God's Word that He was going to send His Messiah to the earth to save His people.

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    And you see, we too, are part of a group of people waiting on the Messiah to come again, to bring the ultimate redemption.

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    Do you feel that?

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    Because never in my ministry have I heard more people talking about the return of the Messiah.

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    In our day of so much sickness, death and corruption, our day of the celebration of sin, our day of the persecution of God's people, our day of slaughtering children in the womb.

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    This church represents a group of people who are saying, "Messiah, come." We're waiting.

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    And that is how we connect with Anna.

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    Because we are waiters.

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    I don't mean like serving tables at Applebee's.

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    I mean, we're waiting on the Lord.

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    And like I said at the beginning, That's the worst part of Christmas, right?

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    I mean, who loves waiting, really?

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    I mean, we know what Tom Petty said about waiting, right?

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    Well, I mean, I'm not sure about his theological background, but I certainly agree with Tom Petty when he said waiting is the hardest part, right?

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    But we hate waiting! We hate it!

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    We're the kind of people that we stand in front of the microwave what's taking this stupid thing so long, right?

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    We are nuclear blasting our food, can you give it 12 seconds?

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    But we hate waiting.

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    You know which one lands more for me?

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    As I get people all the time, they'll text me or email me a YouTube link, and they're like, "Jeff, you've got to see this video.

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    It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life." And I'm like, "All right, click." And it's like, "Your video will start in five seconds." I'm like, "Not for me.

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    I guess I'm never gonna see that video." Five seconds? Ain't nobody got time for that.

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    But we hate waiting.

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    And yet God's word repeatedly calls us to wait on the Lord.

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    And here at the birth of Jesus Christ comes this amazing woman who's known as being a person who's spent decades doing what?

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    Waiting.

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    And I just want to share with you for a few minutes tonight that waiting on the Lord doesn't mean that I sit and do nothing until He does something.

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    It's not passive inactivity.

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    Because Anna here is our role model.

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    And she taught us the blessings of waiting actively and faithfully on the Lord.

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    So tonight I just want to show you four things from Anna that you know, at the risk of contradicting Tom Petty, waiting is not always bad.

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    There's actually, according to her story, according to God's word, there are some perks to waiting.

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    So if you're taking notes, write this down.

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    What happens to me when I wait on the Lord?

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    What happens to me when I wait on the Lord?

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    Number one, my woes become small.

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    My woes become small.

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    Now, it says that Anna was advanced in years, she was married for seven years, and she was widowed until she was 84.

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    And in translating that to Greek, that can be translated a couple different ways, and there's some friendly debate about that.

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    But some people say that this verse is saying that she was 84 years old here, and other translations say that no, she was widowed for 84 years, which means if she was married at 15, she would have been 106 years old right here.

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    So she was either 84 or 106.

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    And you're like, "Well, Pastor Jeff, which one is it?" I don't know.

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    But if Anna was here right now, I know which one she would want us to believe.

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    Right?

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    But seriously, you've got to feel for her.

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    Because that's rough.

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    Married and widowed so soon.

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    I mean, did she have kids?

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    I don't know.

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    The text doesn't say.

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    She was alone for so long.

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    I'm not saying that Anna never felt sadness, but obviously her faith kept things into perspective.

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    That she never gave up on God.

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    She never faltered seeking Him with her whole heart.

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    And just because it's December 24th doesn't mean that the hardships that you're going through just magically disintegrated.

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    Because I'm sure to some amount, to some degree, everyone walked in here today, or the people that are watching this stream online right now, you're carrying some woes too.

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    Some of us have lost a loved one, and this is our first Christmas without that person.

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    Some of us have been so affected by the pandemic that we've lost jobs, or are about to lose jobs, or we've certainly lost income.

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    We come in here and we look around and we see these families, but some of us might be alone for the holidays.

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    and you start to feel like maybe you're missing out.

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    And at that point it's easy to give up on God.

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    Like, you know what God, if this is how it's going to be, you're going to forsake me, I'm just going to give up on you.

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    But you know, if Anna had done that, if Anna had let her situation turn her into a bitter person, She never would have had the opportunity to witness the most glorious thing she had ever seen in her life.

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    The most glorious thing anyone could have seen.

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    The face of God himself.

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    I just want to encourage you, like Anna, to confess something like this.

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    Yeah, life is hard.

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    But God has a glorious promise that I know He's going to fulfill.

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    And when I think of what God is going to do, my relatively short amount of time of suffering here on the earth doesn't even compare to the glories He has ahead.

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    So what happens to me when I wait on the Lord?

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    You're going to find that your woes become small.

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    And secondly, my worship becomes authentic.

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    Anna was known as someone who was committed to fasting and ceaseless prayer.

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    And in the Old Testament, that was connected with the anticipation of the coming of the Messiah.

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    And understand that's something that didn't change between testaments.

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    because fasting and ceaseless prayer is still associated with the second coming of Jesus Christ.

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    Matthew 9, Luke 18, verses 7 and 8, respectively.

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    So for Anna, her doctrine was true, her belief was genuine, and her worship was authentic.

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    So I just have to ask, what's our excuse?

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    Think about this.

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    Anna's knowledge of the Messiah, all right?

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    You have Anna's knowledge of Messiah versus our knowledge of Messiah, okay?

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    Who has more knowledge of the Messiah?

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    Anna or us?

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    We do.

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    Because we live on the other side of his life, right?

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    And not only that, we have this record right here.

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    We have this account of the life of the Messiah.

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    We know about his ministry.

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    We know that he died on the cross to take away our sin.

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    We know He rose from the dead to give us eternal life.

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    We know that He promised that His Spirit would come and indwell us upon believing in Him.

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    And we have these promises that He's going to return.

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    So I have to ask you, church, should we be anticipating and excited about the coming of Jesus Christ?

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    Should we be more or less excited than Anna was?

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    Based on the knowledge that we have.

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    Should we want Jesus less or more than Anna?

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    More, yeah.

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    All in favor?

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    You see, the anticipation of the coming of the Messiah for decades kept Anna in worship mode.

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    24/7.

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    That anticipation.

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    And if you really get it, I mean if you really get it, it's going to put you in that mode too.

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    We have way more reason I'd be excited about the coming of the Messiah.

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    So how's your prayer life?

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    I mean, if God was writing about you in His Word, would God be able to rightly describe you as a person of prayer?

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    How's your prayer life?

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    When was the last time that you fasted to focus your appetites on spiritual things?

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    When was the last time you fasted solely for the return of Jesus Christ?

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    As God's Word calls us to do.

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    You see, it's that anticipation that leads us to worship.

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    And worship is, yes, it's the music, but it's so much more than the music.

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    And we get to this place when we get it, and when we truly anticipate, and our lives are centered on that.

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    I don't want to worship because I have to, or because I'm expected to.

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    It just becomes this natural expression for my soul because of what's to be when Jesus comes again.

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    So you have way more reason to worship than Anna.

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    So do you?

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    When I wait on the Lord, when I really wait on the Lord, my worship becomes authentic.

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    Thirdly, my witnessing becomes natural.

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    See that in verse 38?

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    It says that she began to speak of Him to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem.

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    You see, like worship witnessing become this obligatory, awkward exercise.

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    Like, "I know I should do it, but I'm going to be honest with you, my heart's not in it." But notice in this passage, the witnessing came after the worship.

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    And you can tell who is a sincere worshiper by how eager they are to witness.

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    And right now, somebody's going, "Oh no.

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    Everybody pack your bags, we're about to go on a guilt trip about witnessing, right?

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    Jeff's going to lead us on this guilt trip about witnessing.

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    No.

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    That is not my intention at all.

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    I want to fire up our passion for the return of Jesus Christ.

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    I want to fan the flames of worship.

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    Because then I'm not going to have to talk you into witnessing, because you won't be able to help but do it.

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    Because there's a truth about every single person in this room or watching this stream, there's a truth about every single person you know.

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    People love talking about the things that they're passionate about.

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    You can't get around that.

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    When I was in college, I worked a stretch at Walmart, and somehow I ended up working in the automotive department.

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    I have no idea how I got there.

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    I know nothing about cars.

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    Nothing.

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    But for some reason I was working in the automotive department and as I'm sure you can imagine, do you know what kind of people shop in the automotive department?

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    People who are excited about cars. Guess what they wanted to talk about when they came to my department? Cars! And I dreaded that every single day when I was working that somebody would come in and they would expect me to have an intelligent conversation with them about cars and it happened all the time.

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    I get guys come in and they'd say they'd say something like this they'd say yeah I just I just dropped the chassis on my catalytic fuel injected heavy to discover that the the vascular was corroded I'm like huh and he's like the best problem it was corroded and I would go um this air freshener will make your car smell like puppy breath They love cars.

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    And they love talking about cars, and you can fill in that blank with whatever.

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    Pets, football, scrapbooking.

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    How about Jesus Christ?

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    You love talking about the things that you're excited about.

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    So I would say, church, let's get excited about the return of Jesus.

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    and watch the Lord bring more people to Him through your witness.

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    So what happens when I wait on the Lord?

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    Well, my woes become small, and my worship becomes authentic, and my witnessing becomes natural, and finally, my waiting becomes worth it.

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    My waiting becomes worth it.

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    Look at verse 38.

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    It says, "And coming up at that very hour, She began to give thanks to God.

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    Upon seeing the Messiah, baby Jesus, she began to give thanks to God.

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    Alright?

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    It wasn't as if Anna came up, and there's Simeon, and there's Mary and Joseph and the baby, and Anna comes up and she goes, "You mean to tell me I waited my whole life for this?

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    This is it?

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    "Yes!" That wasn't it at all.

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    She said, "This was worth the wait." God, thank You.

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    Thank You for letting me see this.

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    Waiting is worth it when there is a payoff.

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    And if you have even the slightest idea of what Jesus is going to do when He returns, No, there can't possibly be a bigger payoff than that.

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    You will see Him in His glory.

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    You will fall on your face in worship.

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    You will cast your crowns at His feet, and as your heart is overwhelmed with the awesomeness of being in the presence of the Almighty.

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    You and I are going to declare this together.

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    We're going to say, "Worth it." Worth it.

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    Every difficult day, every struggle, worth it.

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    Every trial, every tear, worth it.

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    Every discouragement, every setback, worth it.

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    And this story simply boils down to this.

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    Whatever hardship you're facing, despite how long you face it, living a life of worship devoted to God, is worth it.

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    Because those who wait on Him will never disappoint.

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    Like Anna, at the end of the waiting, is seeing something glorious.

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    I'd like you to bow your heads with me please as the worship team makes their way forward.

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    Father in Heaven, Thank You for the example that we have.

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    Father, I pray, just simply this, that we wouldn't grow weary in the waiting.

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    That we would take a really hard look at Anna's life.

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    It had to seem so long and incredibly difficult at times, She never let that get her off track.

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    Father, I pray that You would find the same faithfulness and fervency in our hearts.

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    Because like her, we are waiting for the Messiah to come.

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    We are waiting, Father, for the return of Christ.

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    We believe it.

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    May our lives reflect it.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Luke 2:36-38

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Baby's First Christmas - Great Expectations

Introduction:

(Luke 2:22-36)

  1. Mary and Joseph were expected to Follow the law, which They did. (Luke 2:22-24)

    See: Lev 12:4, 6, 8

  2. Simeon expected to See the Messiah, which He Did! (Luke 2:25-32)

See Isaiah 42:1,6-7 | Isaiah 49:5-6

  1. I am expected to Believe in Jesus, which I Do. (Luke 2:33-35)

    Acts 17:30 - The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent...

    1 John 3:23 - And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ

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    Who knows what we're looking at here?

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    Does anybody know what this is?

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    Darla knows, it's a vacuum.

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    This is a vacuum from the 1960s, early 1970s.

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    And my parents had a vacuum like this.

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    And this is the kind of vacuum that every housewife of the atomic age wanted to have.

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    Look at all the gadgets and gizmos.

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    But if you look at her carpet it doesn't look like she's using any of them.

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    And yes, yes kids, our furniture in the 1960s and 70s was really this ugly.

    00:43-00:57

    But this vacuum had a couple of, well many purposes, but if you put up the next picture, you see at the front there was this little opening and you could connect the vacuum hose so that it would blow air.

    01:00-01:03

    And I have a story about Bethany's dad.

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    'Cause he used a vacuum like this at least once a year.

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    See, he was, I didn't mean it to come out there.

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    (audience laughing)

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    Actually, he did all the vacuuming.

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    He would put on patriotic music and he really, really loud.

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    He'd vacuum the whole house.

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    But anyway, he was expected every year at Christmas to flock the Christmas tree.

    01:31-01:33

    And like, what, what?

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    So the way they do it now is you take a natural tree and you spray it with water and then you sprinkle this paper product over it and then when it dries, it looks like the tree is covered in snow.

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    But back in the '60s, we didn't have it so simple.

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    We used these really toxic, chemical-laden paint-type products.

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    And what you would--I'm not quite sure how it worked.

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    If you connected it to the hose or you actually put this substance inside the vacuum.

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    But you would put the hose on and then you would have your tree and you would be spraying it with the hose.

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    So Bethany's mom expected Bill to do this every Christmas.

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    And he didn't like doing it.

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    He was never really happy when he had to do this.

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    And the one Christmas when Bethany was about 10 years old, he's got this all set up and he's trying to flock the tree and nothing's coming out.

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    He's like, "What's going on here?" So he's like, "What's going on?" He turns the hose around and he's looking at it and boom, right in his face.

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    And there's white stuff everywhere and Bethany is laughing.

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    And there were a few choice words that followed this little episode.

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    And Bethany made herself scarce before she got strangled by the hose.

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    But yeah, Bethany's mom's expectation of a flocked Christmas tree was completely dashed.

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    And after that, Bill was no longer expected to flock the Christmas tree.

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    Never happened again.

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    So, yeah, expect, expectation.

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    That's a word loaded with meaning, isn't it?

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    Actually, several meanings.

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    There's a sense of being duty-bound or obligated.

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    You know, we're expected to show up on time for work.

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    You expect me to preach a good sermon this morning.

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    Or like my father-in-law, you're expected to flock the Christmas tree because it's a tradition.

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    There's also the sense of anticipation, of looking forward to something, of desiring a certain thing to happen.

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    You know, the Bible has synonyms or for these meanings of expect or expectation.

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    So when we do what's expected of us, it's called obedience.

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    And when we look forward to something, that's called hope.

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    So as we continue our study this morning of Jesus' birth and how he affected people, even as an infant, we're gonna look at obedience and hope.

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    We're gonna look at how when we do what's expected, we find hope, and in our hope, we find fulfillment.

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    So let's look at Luke chapter two.

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    We're gonna start at verse 22.

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    And when the time came for their purification, according to the law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord.

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    As it is written in the law of the Lord, every male who first opens the womb shall be called holy to the Lord, and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, a pair of turtle doves or two young pigeons.

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    So our first point is that Mary and Joseph were expected to follow the law, which they did.

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    Now, what law is this?

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    Luke gives us a summary, but what law?

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    Well, this is referring to Leviticus 12.

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    And I've parsed this out a little bit.

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    We're going to look at verses 4, 6, and 8.

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    So what the law required was that when a woman gave birth to a son, she was considered unclean for seven days.

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    And then on the eighth day, he must be circumcised.

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    And then, picking up our verses here, "Then she shall continue for 33 days in the blood of her purifying.

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    She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary until the days of her purifying are completed.

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    And when the days of her purifying are completed, she shall bring to the priest at the entrance of the tent of meeting a lamb a year old for a burnt offering, and a pigeon or a turtle dove for a sin offering.

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    And if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtle doves or two pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

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    So we see that Mary and Joseph fulfilled the commandment, even though they were poor.

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    Now that's the obvious point here, right?

    06:48-07:00

    We've heard this many times, the fact that they offered two turtle doves or two pigeons indicates that Mary and Joseph were very poor.

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    But even though Jesus was born into poverty, His parents were pious, they were observant.

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    And some may look at Leviticus chapter 12 and they would see, oh, this is an oppressive patriarchal system that treated women as second class and unclean just because they had a baby.

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    But you know, both of those observations, They miss something profound happening here.

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    You see, in the Old Testament ceremonial system, keeping oneself and one's belongings clean was essential to worship.

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    And if some food or some clothing or the person or the priest came in contact with something that was unclean, like a dead person or a sick person, It would make the holy person unclean, unholy.

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    And they were excluded then from worship.

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    And the process of ceremonial purification, it would have to start all over again until they were clean enough to go into worship.

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    What's profound in our account this morning is this.

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    Mary nursed the Son of God.

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    She kissed and touched the face of God.

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    She held him in her arms.

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    Even though the law said she could touch nothing holy for 40 days.

    08:39-08:44

    How do we know he was holy and not just a baby who would someday become holy later on?

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    Well, Luke 2.23 says, "As the firstborn, he was holy to the Lord." And in Luke 1.35, the angel Gabriel told Mary, "The child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God." Now I am aware that Catholic doctrine holds that Mary was never, ever unclean.

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    That in order to be the mother of God, she must have herself been immaculately conceived.

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    That is, she was without original sin from the moment of her conception.

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    But you know there's several problems with that doctrine, not the least of which is not in the Bible.

    09:26-09:29

    The fact is Mary was a sinner, just like everyone else.

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    That she became pregnant while she was betrothed to Joseph was scandalous.

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    And Deuteronomy 22 doesn't mince any words about it.

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    It was considered, what had happened to Mary was considered an evil thing.

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    She should have been stoned to death.

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    She could have been considered to have done an outrageous thing in Israel by whoring in her father's house, so you shall purge the evil from your midst.

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    The scripture doesn't mince any words about what people may have thought about Mary.

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    But yet the fact that Mary was unclean and yet tenderly connected to the Son of God is a great hope for us. Have you ever felt unclean? Have you ever felt, "I'm a complete mess.

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    I'm unworthy. I'm sinful. I'm vile. I'm detestable. I know I'm wicked." Have you thought that so much so that you think God wants nothing to do with you? So much so that you think you are beyond the reach of God.

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    Mary was unclean, but the Son of God put himself in her arms.

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    This tells us there is no one too unclean, too unholy for Jesus.

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    He touched lepers, he touched the diseased, the sinful, the dead, and instead of becoming unclean himself, the diseased were made well.

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    The dead were raised to life and the sinful were forgiven.

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    No matter what we have done, no matter how often we sin, we are never, ever, ever beyond the reach of Jesus.

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    The second thing to note here is, we don't become holy by what we do.

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    We see that Mary did what was expected of her by making the required offering for her cleansing.

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    But the deeper reality is she was made clean because of who she was connected to, to Jesus.

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    It wasn't because she performed religious rites, but because she embraced the Son of God.

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    We're gonna look next at Simeon, verse 25.

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    Now there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, And this man was righteous and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel.

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    And the Holy Spirit was upon him.

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    And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

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    And he came into the Spirit, into the temple.

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    So our second point is, Simeon expected to see the Messiah, which he did.

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    Think about Simeon and his circumstance.

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    He's expecting to see the Messiah.

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    You know, the time is right.

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    It's been over 400 years since the prophecy of Daniel that Messiah should be coming about this time.

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    We're looking for him, but circumstances are completely wrong for this.

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    The Messiah was to be the son of David, but there's no Davidic king on the throne.

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    They got Herod, and Herod is an Idiomian.

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    I was gonna make a pun about, well, what do you mean, Rich?

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    I did it anyway, didn't I?

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    So Idiomian, what that means is Herod is a descendant of Esau.

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    And if you remember back in the book of Genesis, What God told Rebekah was that the older would serve the younger.

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    The younger was Jacob, Esau was the older, but Esau was going to serve Jacob.

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    Well, here are circumstances, things are flipped, right?

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    The son of Esau is the king over Israel.

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    So how can we have a son of David coming?

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    And then the Sadducees were in control of the Sanhedrin, the religious council.

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    And they only followed the Torah, which is the first five books of the Bible.

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    They didn't read the histories, they didn't read the Psalms, they didn't read the prophets.

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    They don't have a clue, really, about what Messiah is going to be like.

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    And they're the religious authorities.

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    And then of course all Israel is under the iron boot of Rome.

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    This just doesn't seem like the right conditions for the Messiah.

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    How can Messiah come?

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    How can he arrive?

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    It must have seemed impossible.

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    Do you ever feel like that?

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    That your circumstances are impossible?

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    You feel like you're just piling up hope against hope, prayer against prayer.

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    You pray long and hard for something, and you wonder if circumstances will change.

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    Is God going to act?

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    You know, the Psalms are full of the refrain, "How long, Lord, how long?" I think the saddest of these is in Psalm 74 verse 9.

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    We are given no signs from God.

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    No prophets are left.

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    None of us knows how long this will be.

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    Feel like that?

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    And then there's Proverbs 13, 12 that says, "Hope deferred makes the heart sick." When we find ourselves in such dire circumstances, we become heart sick.

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    And we wonder silently, we wonder aloud, God, are you paying attention?

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    Do you see what is going on?

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    Don't you know what's happening to me?

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    Do you really love me?

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    Do you care?

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    You know, perhaps Simeon felt like that.

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    He's old.

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    He could have been waiting for decades to see Messiah.

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    He's old.

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    How much longer is he gonna live?

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    He's old.

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    He's lived his entire life under the Mosaic Covenant.

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    But Simeon had the Word of God that promised the Messiah, and God cannot lie.

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    Simeon believed the Holy Spirit, who had given him a promise that he would not die until he saw the Messiah.

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    How long did he wait?

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    We don't know.

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    What we do know is that he continued in steadfast expectation, and he obeyed when the Holy Spirit to go to the temple.

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    And what did he expect to see?

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    Sure, he expected to see Messiah.

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    He probably expected Messiah would have to be born.

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    Right, that was the promise of Genesis 3.15.

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    The very first prophecy of the Messiah that he would be the offspring of the woman.

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    But maybe he was expecting to see a full-grown man.

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    Maybe just even a young man.

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    Maybe he expected to see a prince.

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    Or even maybe a warrior king.

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    Let's pick up in verse 27.

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    And when the parents brought the child Jesus to do for him according to the custom of the law, and there's Simeon, it's a baby.

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    The Messiah is a baby.

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    The Simeon object?

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    Oh God, there's gotta be a mistake.

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    There's gotta be someone else here in the temple you want me to look for, right?

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    Not this young couple here with the infant.

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    There's somebody else, right?

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    No.

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    Nope.

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    He doesn't keep looking.

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    Perhaps he remembered the word of the Lord.

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    Behold, I am doing a new thing.

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    So in verse 28, he takes him up in his arms and blessed God and said, "Lord, now you are letting your servant depart in peace according to your word.

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    For my eyes have seen your salvation that you have prepared in the presence of all peoples, a light for revelation to the Gentiles and for glory to your people Israel." And his father and mother marveled at what was said about him.

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    Yes, the Messiah he sees is a baby a little more than a month old.

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    Yet consider the certainty of Simeon's proclamation.

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    He didn't see any miracles, healings, he didn't see the dead raised.

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    He didn't even hear Jesus preach or teach.

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    He didn't see his death or resurrection.

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    And yet he considered the work of the Messiah as good as done.

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    The fact that the child had been born was all the assurance Simeon needed, that everything else necessary for salvation was going to be accomplished.

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    Simeon saw not just the baby, but he saw and believed in the finished work, even though he would not live to see it.

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    Why?

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    Because, again, Simeon knew the Word of God.

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    His proclamation is rooted in the prophets.

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    So for example, Isaiah 42, God is speaking, "Here is my servant whom I uphold, "my chosen one in whom I delight.

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    "I will put my spirit on him "and he will bring justice to the nations.

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    "I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness.

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    "I will take hold of your hand.

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    "I will keep you and I will make you "to be a covenant for the people "and a light for the Gentiles, To open the eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison, and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.

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    Then Isaiah 49, "Now the Lord says, 'He who formed me in the womb to be his servant.'" See, it's almost like a dialogue between Jesus and his Father.

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    "Now the Lord says, 'He who formed me in the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the Lord, and my God has been my strength." He says, the Lord says, "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept.

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    I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth." You see, based on the promises of God, Simeon knew the Messiah would be the salvation of all people, even the Gentiles.

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    And now he had seen the personal promise to him fulfilled.

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    Was that verse in Proverbs 13.12?

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    What did that say?

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    Hope deferred makes the heart sick?

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    but a longing fulfilled as a tree of life.

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    Was Simeon special?

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    You know, sometimes we read the accounts of people in the Bible, like Mary, like Simeon, David, Moses, and we're like, they're on a pedestal, man.

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    We're not like them at all.

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    I can't, that's not me.

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    Was Simeon special?

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    I think we can say that God dealt with him faithfully and graciously.

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    Was he more spiritual than us?

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    Does he have something we don't?

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    Was he somehow smarter than the average bear?

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    No!

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    He believed the Word of God and he listened to the Holy Spirit.

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    What do we as believers have?

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    The Word of God and the Holy Spirit.

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    So anchor your hope, beloved, in the eternal word of God, who does not lie, who does everything He says He will do.

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    And be still and listen to Him.

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    His Holy Spirit has been given to you to lead you into all understanding, to counsel you, to guide you, to bring you to a place of fulfilled hope.

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    Simeon knew there was more to come.

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    He knew the child would grow and become both suffering servant and righteous ruler of Israel.

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    Simon knew what the law and the prophets had to say about Messiah.

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    So he goes on in verse 34, "And Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, 'Behold, this child is appointed for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign that is opposed and a sword will pierce through your own soul also, so that the thoughts from many hearts may be revealed." You see, Jesus was expected to save his people from both Jews and Gentiles. He obeyed all his father's commands and fulfilled all that was spoken of him. Simeon understood that there were some dark clouds though on the horizon. Jesus was born to suffer and die for sinners.

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    He did so out of obedience and love and then he rose again to give eternal life to all who believe. So our last point is this. I'm expected to believe in Jesus which I can't fill that blank in for you.

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    And if you didn't immediately complete that sentence with, "I have, I've got good news for you." You see, Jesus is appointed for the fall and rising of many, the fall of those who don't believe and the rising of those who do.

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    In the garden, God gave Adam and Eve a number of commands.

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    He told them a bunch of things that they could do, that they should do.

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    Look, all these trees.

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    You can eat from all of these trees, all of this fruit, even the tree of life.

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    Be fruitful and multiply.

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    Exercise dominion.

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    Work in the garden.

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    of very good commands, but there was one command.

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    They were to obey.

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    One command, absolutely, "Do not eat from the tree "of the knowledge of good and evil, "for in the day that you eat of it, "or when you eat of it, you shall surely die." One command.

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    And what did Adam and Eve do?

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    They zeroed right in on that tree, didn't they?

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    And a whole human race, because of their sin, has been under the death of sin ever since.

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    But God has fixed this.

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    And now He's given us one command.

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    God now commands all men everywhere to repent and believe.

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    Look at Acts 17.30.

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    The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now He commands all people everywhere to repent.

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    And then 1 John 3.23, "And this is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ." This is important.

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    This is a commandment.

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    It's not a mere invitation.

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    It's not a mere, you know, this would be a really good thing for you if you did this.

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    This isn't about, oh, if you just ask Jesus into your heart.

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    Would you, oh sinner, give your heart to Jesus?

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    Would you give your life to Jesus?

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    Well, if I do, can I get it back later if I change my mind?

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    No.

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    It's a command.

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    You either do what is expected and live, or you don't and you perish.

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    You see, the thoughts of your heart are being revealed right now by what the Word of God is saying to you and how you are responding to it.

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    Just recall last week's message.

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    Who's Jesus for?

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    He's for sinners.

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    If you admit you're a sinner, that's a good thing, because God demonstrates his own love toward us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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    We can't make ourselves acceptable to God, but when we obey the command to embrace Jesus, when we repent of our sins, our sins are all forgiven and we become clean and holy, just like him.

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    When we obey the command to repent, and we do what's expected, all our hopes, all our expectations are fulfilled in Jesus.

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    As that well-known psalm says as we sing, "Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow." You see, Jesus, Jesus alone is who we really need.

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    It's that proverb again, "Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life." You see, the cross for us is a tree of life.

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    Jesus knew all the evil you've ever done, all the evil you will ever do.

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    And He took it upon Himself on the cross and He surely died there for sinners.

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    He died for sinners.

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    And if you recognize yourself as a sinner and you repent and believe, then Proverbs 23, 18 tells us, "There is surely a future hope for you, and your hope will not be cut off." If you have questions about this, if you want to know, "What does it really mean to repent?

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    and believe. How do I do this? Well, talk to Pastor Jeff. Talk to any one of our elders.

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    Come talk to me. Talk to the person who invited you to church this morning.

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    That's exactly what they want to talk to you about.

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    So let's pray.

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    Our gracious Father, you have given us the indescribable gift of Jesus Christ to save us from our sins, to reconcile us to yourself, to give us eternal life, to fulfill our expectations and give us great hope and hope fulfilled in Him.

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    Lord, we thank you for this great gift. In the equally great name of Jesus, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Luke 2:22-35

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

  2. Have you ever felt so unclean or so unworthy that you thought God could not possibly have anything to do with you? Does the knowledge that Jesus makes everyone He touches clean and holy change your perspective?

  3. Share an example of a time you waited on or cried out to God – did you focus on your circumstances, or on His promises and His Holy Spirit? If you are going through trying circumstances now, how can knowing His Word and listening for the Holy Spirit’s counsel give you hope?

  4. Have you repented and believed in Jesus for salvation?

  5. Consider this statement: “Salvation requires obedience” (See Acts 17:30 and 1 John 3:23). Discuss.

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Baby's First Christmas - Who is Jesus For?

Introduction:

Who is Jesus For? (Luke 2:1-21)

  1. Jesus is for people who make Him Priority . (Luke 2:7)

    Colossians 1:18 - And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent...

  2. Jesus is for who are actively Seeking Him. (Luke 2:8-16)

Proverbs 2:3-5 - ...if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God.

  1. Jesus is for people who need a Savior . (Luke 2:11)

    Matthew 1:21 - She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.

    If our greatest need had been information, God would have sent us an educator;
    If our greatest need had been technology, God would have sent us a scientist;
    If our greatest need had been money, God would have sent us an economist;
    If our greatest need had been pleasure, God would have sent us an entertainer;
    But our greatest need was forgiveness, so God sent us a Savior.

    Mark 2:17 - "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

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    Open your Bibles with me please to Luke chapter 2.

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    We're beginning a series, "Baby's First Christmas." And here's what we're going to be doing over the next three messages.

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    We're going to just simply be looking at the people that were there when Jesus was a baby.

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    He didn't exactly have a baby shower, but we see people that were profoundly impacted by Jesus even when he was an infant.

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    That's what we're doing.

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    Luke chapter 2.

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    While you're turning there, I'm going to tell you a joke.

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    You want to hear a joke?

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    All right.

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    I think somebody just made one and I'm thankful that I'm hard of hearing, I guess.

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    All right, so here it is.

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    Darren I know you know this one.

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    So this cowboy goes into a saloon and sits down at the bar and the bartender says, "What do you have?" Cowboy says, "Root beer," because it's a church joke.

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    (audience laughs)

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    And the bartender gives him his root beer, and he drinks it, and he says, "Can I get you anything else?" And the cowboy says, "Are you crazy?

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    "I need to get going because Big Zeke's coming." The bartender's like, "Who's Big Zeke?" Cowboy says, "You don't know who Big Zeke is.

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    "Big Zeke is the biggest, nastiest, meanest, "most violent, vicious, ruthless, bloodthirsty cowboy ever." He's on his way here, and I ain't gonna be here when he gets here, because when Big Zeke shows up, everybody gets hurt.

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    So he takes off, and the bartender's standing there like, "Huh." Well, sure enough, about 40 minutes later, the door is kicked in, and in walks a cowboy, six foot seven, 400 pounds if he was an ounce.

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    He was wearing a coat made out of a buffalo, and I don't mean buffalo skin.

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    It was an actual buffalo draped over his shoulders.

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    He had a rattlesnake belt, And I don't mean a rattlesnake skin belt.

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    I mean around his waist was a rattlesnake, too scared to let go.

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    He had spurs the size of dinner plates.

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    And he sits down, the bartender's trembling, 'cause his words go back to the previous customer.

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    The bartender says, "What can I get you?" And the enormous cowboy says, "I'll have a root beer." Because it's a church joke.

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    That part didn't change.

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    And the bartender, shaking, brings it over and sets it down and he says, "Sir, will there be anything else?" The big cowboy looks down at him, he goes, "Are you crazy?

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    I'm going to get out of here.

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    Zeke's coming. You see the birth of Jesus is actually the exact opposite of that story because Israel was expecting a Messiah and many people missed him even though he actually arrived. But not everybody missed him. So again we're going to look at the people that were there when Jesus was born. Luke chapter 2, are you there? Pick up in verse 1, it says, "In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered." It's like a census, right? It says, "This was the first registration when Quirinius was governor of Syria, and went up from Galilee from the town of Nazareth to Judea to the city of David which is called Bethlehem because he was of the house and lineage of David to be registered with Mary his betrothed who was with child while they were there the time came for her to give birth and she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in swaddling cloths and laid him in a manger because there was no place for them in the end.

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    So the census brought Joseph and Mary back to the hometown and that was actually to fulfill the prophecy that the Christ, the promised Messiah, would be born in Bethlehem.

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    Micah actually pronounced that 700 years prior to this event.

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    So the trip from Nazareth to Bethlehem was about 90 miles.

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    And Joseph and Mary probably didn't have a minivan.

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    Okay?

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    So imagine, very pregnant, 90 mile journey.

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    We have Mary pregnant by the Holy Spirit conceiving within her womb, and she arrives in time to have the baby.

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    up in verse 8. It says, "And in the same region there were shepherds out in the field keeping watch over their flock by night and an angel of the Lord appeared to them and the glory of the Lord shone around them and they were filled with fear. The angel said to them, 'Fear not for behold I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all people for unto you is born this day in the city of David, a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

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    And this will be a sign for you.

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    You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.

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    And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, "Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased." And the angels went away from them into heaven.

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    The shepherds said to one another, "Let us go over to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has made known to us." And they went with haste and found Mary and Joseph and the baby lying in a manger.

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    And when they saw it, they made known the saying that had been told them concerning the child, and all who heard it wondered at what the shepherds told them.

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    But Mary treasured up all these things, pondering them in her heart.

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    And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all they had heard and seen as it had been told them.

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    And at the end of eight days, when he was circumcised, he was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

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    Now if you grew up in the church or even attended church the last several years consecutively at all, you're kind of familiar with the story, right?

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    You don't even have to go to church to be familiar with the story.

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    We can hear about it in Christmas shows and programs and cartoons.

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    But can we just take a step back here for a second?

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    Because some of us are so familiar with this story that we forget how strange it is.

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    Because it's really a strange story when you think about it.

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    I mean, imagine you're God's PR person, and God says, "Hey, we're going to let the world know that the Almighty Sovereign of the universe is becoming a man.

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    How are we going to let the world know?" I mean, what would you do?

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    I know you'd be like, "Okay, we're going to have to hit the big social media, right?

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    We're going to have to get on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, and we're going to have to blast it out that way." Maybe some of you would say, "Well, we'll call CNN, and we'll call Fox News." And like, "Well, they didn't have that sort of platform back then, Jeff." But okay, so what if you lived in these days?

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    What if you lived during Jesus' day, and God said, "I'm coming to the earth." Like, who would you tell?

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    The high priest?

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    The Sanhedrin?

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    You know the religious ruling body over Israel, would you tell them?

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    What about Herod?

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    We'll just go right to the top, we'll tell the king, right?

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    That's not God's way.

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    What we see is God told a group of shepherds, and that's really strange.

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    And if that's not strange enough, again our familiarity sometimes helps us gloss over it.

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    Think about how strange the news itself is.

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    Look at verse 11 again.

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    For unto you is born this day in the city of David.

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    Unto you, underline that.

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    Because that's not a typical baby announcement.

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    Like, "Hey, somebody's having a baby for you." Like, I don't remember signing up for that.

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    Somebody's doing what for me?

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    But that's the announcement.

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    And that's simply what I want to look at for a few minutes this morning is, just to answer one question, who is Jesus for?

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    Like there's this announcement that somebody had a baby for you.

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    For who?

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    For me.

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    Yeah.

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    Well, how do I know Jesus is for me?

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    from this story, I just want to look at three things. Who is Jesus for? Who is Jesus for? Write this down. Number one, Jesus is for people who make him priority. Jesus is for people who make him priority. Have you ever been part of a church that does, you know, every Christmas they get the kids to reenact the nativity scene? You ever seen that in the church? You ever seen that? Anybody?

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    Okay, thank you.

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    Alright.

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    I can start over.

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    Okay, this cowboy goes into a...

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    Nativity, okay.

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    So I remember we grew up in the Methodist church, and I was so excited because they were doing the Nativity play, Jay.

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    And I was like, "Yes!" I'm like, "I'm going to land a big role this year." Do you know what role I got?

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    The innkeeper.

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    And do you know what that role entails?

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    You got to stand there and tell pregnant Mary that there ain't no room in your inn.

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    I felt like such a jerk.

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    Like here comes pregnant Mary, just made the 90 mile trip, and I'm like, "Sorry, there's no room for you, little pregnant Jewish lady." I mean, what a jerk, right?

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    Not me, the innkeeper.

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    But we might be shocked to discover there is no innkeeper.

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    The Bible doesn't talk about an innkeeper.

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    What does the text say?

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    It says there was no room, verse 7, in the inn.

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    Now that word for inn is the word kataluma.

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    And sometimes it helps us to understand the Bible when we look at, okay, here's how a word is used here.

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    Is that word used any place else in the Bible?

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    And actually it is.

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    In Mark 14, 14, it refers to the upper room.

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    The kataluma was a guest chamber, and actually in the Greek, there was a completely different word for a hotel or a motel, like an inn.

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    That's a completely different word.

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    That's not really a great translation of this word.

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    There was no room for them in the guest room.

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    Meaning this, the animals often were kept downstairs on the ground level, sort of like a barn or what we would call the garage.

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    So because there wasn't room in the upper room in the guest room, in our vernacular it would be like saying Mary had to have the baby in the garage.

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    And I want to share a story with you. I know some of you have heard this, but I want you to humor me for those who haven't because I think it's such an appropriate illustration here. But many years ago we did a wedding and we were all dressed up, you know. Erin was with me. She looked like a trillion dollars. I had my suit on. I looked like about 75 cents, but still she looked she looked amazing. And okay, so we went down to, we had the wedding and we went down to the receptionist at the place around, I think it was the Days Inn on Route 8. And so we show up and we get into the lobby where there's the table with the seating assignments. And we're just standing there. It was alphabetized.

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    and I'm like, "Which table are we?" And Aaron's like, "I don't see us." And I'm like, "I don't see us either." And then it dawned on us that we weren't invited to the reception and we had to leave.

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    And that was embarrassing.

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    But it gets worse.

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    Because we were all gussied up, I'm like, "We're still going out to eat." So we just went a little further down the road to the hardwood, and we had a nice dinner, just the two of us there.

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    It's probably better than having the reception with a bunch of people we really didn't know that well anyways, but when we got back in the car, I looked in the back seat and saw that I had the couple's marriage license in the back seat.

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    And they needed it for the honeymoon and all the legal stuff there.

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    And I thought to myself, oh no, I gotta go back in there.

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    You know, the place where I wasn't invited the first time, I gotta go back in.

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    And not just in the lobby, I gotta track the groom down and give him his, and believe you me, I was trying so hard to think of a way out of this.

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    And there just wasn't.

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    And so I walk in, go up to the head table, And I said, "Hey, I'm so sorry I forgot to give you this "and all your paperwork's in there that you need.

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    "You know, hope you have a great honeymoon." And I'm walking away and I got probably, you know, 20, 25 feet away and he hollers nice and loud for everyone to hear.

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    He goes, "Hey, Jeff, if you're hungry, "I think there's some leftovers in the kitchen." I'm like, "Leftovers?" Like, do you realize what goes into a wedding?

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    Do you realize what goes into that from my perspective?

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    We did weeks and weeks and weeks of counseling, and I helped plan the wedding ceremony, and I helped with the rehearsal, and all the headaches that often go with that, and I helped plan the whole thing, and execute the whole thing, and you're offering me crumbs from your table?

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    Like, do you know who I am?

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    I'm the pastor!

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    Leftovers.

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    Leftovers!

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    But that's the point of the manger, because that's what Jesus got.

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    There was no room for Him where we'd let the people sleep.

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    But you can have the leftovers.

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    Creator God, awesome God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God who keeps His covenant.

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    Do you remember Him?

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    He's coming to the earth, He's coming to die a horrible death for our sin.

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    And we're like, yeah, you can just go ahead and have that baby where we keep the animals.

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    That's fine.

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    We don't have any room for you where the people sleep.

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    And before we get all judgy, like, yep, yep, shame on, shame on whoever made this happen, shame on them, shame on them.

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    Before we get too judgy, maybe you need to examine your own life and see if leftovers is still what Jesus is getting.

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    If you're like, "You know, it's so hard for me to find time to read my Bible.

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    It's hard for me to find time to get involved in church at all.

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    A small group I think I signed up, but I haven't really been able to go, and I just don't really have the time. It just seems like every minute Alex has spoken for, every minute, whether it's work or hobbies or sports, I mean all the stuff that my kids in, and then I found out there's this new series on Netflix I want to watch, and I just can't seem to squeeze Jesus into the schedule. Leftovers! You're I'll throw up a quick one in the car while I'm driving to work, or I'll pray at the end of the day, but honestly, usually I fall asleep.

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    It's called leftovers.

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    I read the Bible on my own.

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    I read the Bible on my own.

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    Do you?

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    Yeah, yeah.

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    It was a couple weeks ago.

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    I read, I think it was a Psalm, maybe?

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    Leftovers.

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    And really, it's no different than, there's no room in the guest room.

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    You can have your baby in the barn.

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    The Bible makes this incredible statement about Jesus.

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    Colossians 1.18 says, "He is the head of the body, the church.

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    He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything He might be preeminent." You know that's how this church started?

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    That was the year one theme.

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    Jesus is first.

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    Because according to the Bible, He is to have the preeminence in everything.

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    But the question is, does He have the first place in you?

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    I mean, imagine this story.

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    What if Joseph and Mary showed up, and let's just pretend for a second, can we pretend that whoever had the jurisdiction over who was allowed to stay in the guest room, what if they knew who it was that Mary had in her womb?

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    How do you think the story would have played out then?

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    He would have gone to that room and whoever was in there, I don't care if it's the Pope or Elvis or who, whoever was in there.

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    It's like, hey, Jack, you get out.

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    I just got you're going to have to get out because God needs this room.

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    And it's the same for us, church.

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    When you recognize who Jesus is.

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    You make room for.

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    You bump him up to the VIP priority position, and sometimes that means saying no to good things because they're lesser things. Because I want Jesus to have the first place. So Jesus is for people who make him priority. Secondly, Jesus is for people who are actively seeking him. Jesus is for people who are actively seeking him. Again, we kind of said this at beginning, it's strange that the angel appeared to shepherds. Why not rabbis or the high priest or kings? Why is it so strange that this angel appeared to shepherds? Because some of you still might not think that's strange, because Now, we tend to glorify shepherds.

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    And I get why.

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    Because when you read your Bible, being a shepherd sounds like a pretty sweet deal, right?

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    Because Adam was a shepherd, right?

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    And Abel, and Jacob, and Moses, and David.

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    I guess quite a gallery of famous shepherds.

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    But you have to understand, in Jesus' day, it wasn't like that.

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    Do you know how they viewed shepherds?

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    Bottom of the barrel people.

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    Ignorant, uneducated, because they couldn't keep the rules that the Pharisees prescribed.

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    You know, the Pharisees made up like 600 and some rules.

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    You had to keep these rules and they mainly circled around keeping the Sabbath.

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    shepherds were just unable to keep those rules because of their jobs.

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    And in Jesus' day, shepherds weren't even allowed to testify in court because they were considered garbage people.

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    Like, you can't trust a shepherd.

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    They weren't allowed to testify.

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    They were outcasts.

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    And that is who God chose to receive the greatest news in history.

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    I've got to tell you, it doesn't make sense.

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    And if you're expecting me to spin this in some way where it makes sense, I can't do it.

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    We just finished a series in John.

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    Who was the first person that got the announcement that the Lord resurrected from the dead?

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    Who was the first person?

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    Mary Magdalene.

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    Like, who was she?

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    Nobody!

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    From the world's perspective, she was a nobody.

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    But from God's perspective, He goes, "Yeah, she's going to be the first person that finds out about this." And I think it's interesting in our story that you don't really see the shepherds being specifically told to go.

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    But they really didn't need to be, did they?

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    Like man, this story gives me so many more questions than answers sometimes when I really think about it.

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    Like how did they find Mary and Joseph?

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    Like the angel gave them three clues, like look, a baby was born.

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    That's clue number one.

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    Swaddling cloths, clue number two.

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    Lying in a manger, clue number three.

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    Good luck.

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    And how did they find him?

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    Did they run around knocking on doors?

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    Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, baby's laying in a feeding trough in here.

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    Okay, sorry to bother you.

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    I don't know.

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    But I do think it's funny that Mary travels 90 miles, has the baby in the garage barn thing, and a bunch of gnarly strangers just show up.

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    I mean, for those of you that are parents, can you put yourself in that scenario?

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    Can you think back to when you had your child or one of your children, and you're in the hospital, and push, and, oh, congratulations, it's a boy.

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    And all of a sudden, this group of gnarly, dirty people just run into your room, "Oh, you've got a baby here.

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    Oh, we heard about this." You're like, "Who are you?" "Oh, it's okay.

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    God told us about this." What?

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    But you see, the shepherds did the simplest and most important thing a person can do.

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    They responded to God's Word.

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    You know, oftentimes in the church we talk about seeking the Lord, right?

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    You say you've got to seek the Lord, and the Bible says seek the Lord, seek the Lord, and that's literally what the shepherds did.

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    I want to clarify something, because seeking the Lord absolutely does not imply that He's hiding.

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    Okay?

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    Actually, Acts 17 says He is not far from any of this.

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    But the Lord's not hiding.

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    And the shepherds were literally given the information in order to find Him.

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    And we too have been given the information so that we too may find the Lord.

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    What matters is what we do with the information.

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    And really that's what seeking the Lord is.

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    It's hearing His Word and responding, having the desire to know Him and going after Him according to His Word.

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    Okay?

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    So seeking the Lord isn't hide and seek.

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    It isn't, "Gosh, I hope I can find Him." It's simply being willing to respond to His Word.

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    That's what it means.

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    Proverbs 2 puts it this way.

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    It says, "If you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God." Now this passage is about seeking the Lord, specifically seeking the wisdom of the Lord, which is seeking the Lord.

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    But notice it says that you need to be searching like it was money.

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    Meaning this, if I gave you a treasure map, it's your neighborhood, and I said, "Hey, this map will take you to a place in your neighborhood and you'll find hidden treasure worth $10 billion, but the map was written in Spanish.

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    Would you learn Spanish?

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    Si, you're like, si.

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    Si, senor.

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    Si, jefe.

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    Or you could just call Martha, right?

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    That's cheating.

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    You can't find loopholes in my sermon illustrations.

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    (audience laughing)

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    Look, you see, you get these people to find these loopholes in these illustrations.

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    Well, I appreciate that, but that's not where I was going with this.

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    We're just moving on.

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    I think you get the point.

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    We're having fun, right?

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    We're having, but I think you get the point.

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    There has to be like this diligence and this desire this on your part, like I want to know.

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    And I'm not sure how much the shepherds really understood the impact of the message that they were given here.

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    I mean how much did they really comprehend do you think?

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    This is God taking the form of man.

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    And we're going to see him.

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    I don't know.

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    But they responded to it, I do know that.

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    They responded.

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    And when Jesus is your priority, seeking Him and His Word isn't something I need to talk you into.

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    Like the shepherd, you hear the message from God about His Son and you don't debate it.

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    You don't consider it, you just get moving on it, like the shepherd, right?

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    They just got moving immediately.

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    So should we.

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    So who is Jesus for finally?

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    And this is like last and most important by the way.

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    This isn't like last and least.

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    This is top of the mountain here.

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    Jesus is for people who need a Savior.

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    Back to the announcement, verse 11.

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    unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior." What does that imply?

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    That implies that He came to save people.

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    Save them from what?

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    Well fortunately we have another birth announcement in Matthew chapter 1 verse 21.

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    It says, "She will bear a son and you shall call His name Jesus for He will save His people from their sins." This is the kind of savior that was announced.

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    I came across this quote probably a couple decades ago now, and I had it written down.

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    I'm going to share it with you.

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    I don't know who.

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    It's not original with me.

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    All right?

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    You can probably Google it and find out if you're really interested.

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    And you're like, "Yeah, Jeff, why didn't you do that?" And now that I'm standing up here, it seems like I probably should have done that.

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    Here's the quote.

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    If our greatest need had been information, God would have sent us an educator.

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    If our greatest need had been technology, God would have sent us a scientist.

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    If our greatest need had been money, God would have sent us an economist.

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    If our greatest need had been pleasure, God would have sent us an entertainer.

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    But our greatest need was forgiveness.

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    So God sent us a Savior.

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    And I think it's easy with all of the stuff associated with this season, that that part of the message sort of gets buried.

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    'Cause we're all about the decorations and parties and appointments and presents, and I'm not giving you a guilt trip on that at all.

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    We do that stuff too.

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    I'm just saying this is the part of the message sometimes.

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    It gets a little suppressed, put on the back burner.

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    The fact that this baby that's born is first and foremost called a savior.

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    That baby grew up and had an incredible ministry.

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    We just spent three years looking at one account of it, but in a different account, in Mark chapter two, verse 17, that baby grew up, and this was something profound that he said.

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    Jesus said, "Those who are well "have no need of a physician, "but those who are sick.

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    "I came not to call the righteous, "but sinners.

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    And the question is, when does someone go to a doctor?

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    You know I need your reaction to that, right?

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    "Oh, you go to the doctor when you're sick." And that's not true.

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    You go to the doctor when you know that you're sick.

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    And it's the same with Jesus.

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    You won't come to Him to be saved until you know that you are a sinner guilty before God.

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    Who is Jesus for?

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    And if you're sitting here listening to this, if you're watching this stream or watching this on replay sometime later, you can say, "I'm not really that bad of a person.

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    I don't really think that I'm a sinner.

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    Actually, then you're not going to think that Jesus is for you.

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    Because first and foremost, He is a Savior.

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    Jesus isn't about warm, fuzzy Christmas sentimentality or come to church out of religious obligation.

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    He is the one, He is the only one who can save you from your sin.

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    if you're willing to turn from your sin and believe in Him.

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    And really, that's who Jesus is for.

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    And the shepherds, as far as I can see, they didn't become apostles or pastors, but they did become the first New Testament missionaries of Jesus.

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    like seeking Jesus in the first place, they didn't need talked into this either.

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    And here we see Jesus' impact even as a baby completely changed their lives.

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    So as we get deeper into the holiday season, let's not reduce the story of Jesus to merely the strangest birth announcement of all time.

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    baby came into the world to save you from your sins.

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    So as our worship team comes forward, the question is, "Who is Jesus for?" You're like, "Everyone!" That's what I want to say initially, but not everyone received Him.

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    So who is Jesus for?

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    I think a better word to use there, he's for anyone.

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    He is for anyone who is willing to recognize him for who he is, allowing him first place in their lives, anyone who is willing to actively seek him, anyone who realizes that they need a Savior.

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    That's who Jesus is for.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, I pray that you would just grip our hearts in a fresh way with this message.

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    Some of us have heard this dozens of times over the years.

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    And it is no less astounding today as it was when it happened.

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    There's a lot of questions that I have about this passage.

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    How did the shepherds find Jesus?

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    What did it look like when the angel showed up?

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    There's a lot of questions that we have, Father, but that's really not the important thing.

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    The most clear thing about this passage is you sent a Savior that we are to seek after and allow to have the first place in our lives.

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    So Father, I pray that you would bring us to a recognition of who we are, a sobering self-examination, so that we realize that Jesus is for me.

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    To your glory and honor, we pray in Jesus' name.

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    Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Luke 2:1-21

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

  2. In what ways have you made Jesus a priority in your life? Have you been guilty of giving Him leftovers? If so, what changes do you need to make?

  3. Why do you think God chose the shepherds to give the big birth announcement to?

  4. How would you explain to a non-believer what it means to “seek the Lord”?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Knowing Jesus - Knowing His Restoration

Introduction:

3 Things Jesus Calls Restored Failures to Do (John 21:1-25):

  1. Care for His people. (John 21:15-17)
  2. Follow Him to the end. (John 21:18-19)
  3. Refuse to Compare yourself with others. (John 21:20-23)

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    Open your Bibles with me please to John 21.

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    John 21.

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    Down this last stretch here, we see Jesus accomplished the purpose for which He came.

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    To die on the cross, to pay the penalty for our sins, and to raise from the dead to give us the promise of eternal life.

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    And in the day that Jesus resurrected, He appeared to His disciples, remember, without Thomas.

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    And then eight days later, appeared again, Thomas with them.

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    And in those meetings, Jesus left the disciples and us two things.

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    He said, "There's a mission.

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    You need to be empowered by the Spirit to deal with sin." That was last week's message.

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    But Jesus also left a blessing, and that's especially for us when Jesus said, "Blessed for those who haven't seen yet believe.

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    And truthfully the gospel could have ended in chapter 20.

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    But there's a major loose end that needs tied up here.

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    And that's Peter.

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    Remember back in chapter 18, Jesus was betrayed by one of his closest friends.

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    And he was arrested, heading to his darkest hour.

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    And Peter, the closest one to Jesus, by his own admission, denied three times that he even knew who Jesus was.

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    And yeah, Jesus shows up.

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    We saw last week, Jesus shows up and he gives the mission and tells him to receive the Holy Spirit and all of that.

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    And I think even though that happened, I think Peter was still wondering.

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    Yeah, that's all well and good, but these guys didn't mess up the way I messed up.

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    Right?

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    Look at verse 1 in chapter 21.

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    It says, "After this, Jesus revealed Himself again to the disciples by the sea of Tiberias.

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    And He revealed Himself in this way.

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    Simon Peter, Thomas called the twin, Nathaniel of Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two others of his disciples were together.

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    Simon Peter said to them, 'I'm going fishing.' Him, we will go with you.' They went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing." Okay, so we have seven disciples at the Sea of Tiberias, and you're like, "Well, who are the two others? We don't know." The best guess is probably Andrew and Philip, but for some reason John didn't mention them. The interesting thing about that list, okay, There's seven of them.

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    Six of those disciples were the same disciples that were called back in chapter 1.

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    They were the first called.

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    You're like, "Who was the seventh?" Well, that was Thomas, who swore he was never missing another meeting.

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    So Peter says to them, "I'm going fishing." The others were like, "Okay, we're going with you." Now understand this, in the Greek, when Peter says, "I'm going fishing," this was more than just like passing time, like hobby.

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    This was more than that.

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    The Greek seems to indicate that this was a statement of finality, as in Peter was saying, "You know what guys, I'm going back to fishing." As in, "I don't know what to do now.

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    So I'm just going to go back to what I've known." Right?

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    I think Peter at this point, I think he thought he was done with ministry.

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    Jesus gave the call, but Peter's like, "Yeah, that's good for other people." But I blew it.

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    How could Jesus use someone like me?

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    Well, look at verse 4.

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    "Just as day was breaking," remember the fish caught nothing, "Just as the day was breaking, Jesus stood on the shore, yet the disciples did not know that it was Jesus.

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    Jesus said to them, 'Children, do you have any fish?' They answered Him, 'No.' So like Mary Magdalene at the tomb, they didn't recognize Jesus." And Jesus' statement admittedly might have irritated them.

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    Because again, the way this is constructed in the Greek, literally, Jesus' question was anticipating the negative.

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    His question was literally this, "Hey, you guys didn't catch anything, did you?" Like, could you imagine being one of the fishermen?

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    You're out all night fishing, and there's some guy on the shore.

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    Like, "Hey, you guys didn't catch anything, did you?" "Who is that guy?" Well, hold on.

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    Verse six, "He said to them, "'Cast a net on the right side of the boat "'and you will find some.'" They were like, "You didn't think we thought about that?" But for some reason they obeyed because look, it says, "So they cast it, "and now they were not able to haul it in "because of the quantity of fish.

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    "The disciple whom Jesus loved therefore said to Peter, "It is the Lord.

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    "When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, "he put on his outer garment," where he was stripped for work, "and he threw himself into the sea.

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    "The other disciples came in the boat, "dragging the net full of fish, "for they were not far from the land, "but about a hundred yards off." Okay, so John's like, when they get the miraculous catch, and John's like, "It's the Lord!" And Peter's like, "Cannonball!" And he just like jumps in and he's like, "There's no way John is beating me this time." All right, he might've beat me in the foot race, but swimming is my thing, all right?

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    So, racing to the shore, verse nine says, when they got out on land, they saw a charcoal fire in place.

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    with fish laid out on it, and bread.

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    I've got to tell you, can you even wrap your brain around what that must have been like for Peter?

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    You're like, "What do you mean?" He gets on the shore, and there's a charcoal fire.

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    When was the last time we heard about a charcoal fire in John's Gospel?

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    John 18, servant girl, door girl, was like, "You know what his disciples are?" He said, "Peter." And Peter's like, "I have no idea who he is." And then Peter goes and he warms himself at a charcoal fire.

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    And now Jesus comes on the shore.

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    Here's Jesus crucified, resurrected, and He has a charcoal fire.

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    Do you think that reminded Peter of anything?

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    Verse 10, "Jesus said to them, 'Bring some of the fish that you have just caught.' So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore full of large fish, 153 of them.

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    And although there were so many, the net was not torn.

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    Jesus said, "I'm coming to have breakfast." Now, none of the disciples dared ask Him, "Who are You?" They knew it was the Lord.

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    Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so with the fish, this was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after He was raised from the dead.

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    Here's an interesting little tidbit I was studying this week.

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    were a particular kind of fish that they would have caught at the Sea of Tiberias.

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    And these fish would have weighed about two pounds each.

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    All right, so help me out math people.

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    153 fish at about two pounds each is how much fish are we looking at?

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    Okay, it's like over 300 pounds of fish.

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    You know, what's interesting is the whole group Couldn't haul them in, but it says Peter did himself.

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    Manly man, right?

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    So, they realize at this point, that's Jesus.

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    And it says they didn't ask and they know, they know.

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    And amazingly, your Bible says that Jesus provided for them.

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    He served them.

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    He provided breakfast for them.

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    And you know, at this point, as they were all gathered around the charcoal fire, you know what Peter had to be thinking about.

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    The unresolved elephant in the room.

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    We never addressed this, did we?

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    That Lord, I failed You.

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    Like inexcusably failed You.

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    I royally messed up.

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    And you know when the pressure was on, I showed.

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    I denied three times that I even knew who You were.

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    Anybody else here been there?

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    I imagine that some of you are here now.

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    That you have messed up so bad, or so repeatedly, that you feel like a spiritual loser.

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    Our sin and our failure just like, it crushes us.

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    And it is in our faces.

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    And we carry this guilt around.

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    and we're like, "I'm such a failure.

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    "God's surely done with me because I'm so weak "and I thought I was so strong, "but I'm a terrible Christian." What do we do about that?

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    Like Peter, we're paralyzed by the guilt.

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    And we're just ready, like Peter, to throw in the spiritual towel, and we're gonna go back to fishing, And we'll go back to whatever is familiar, because obviously we stink at following Jesus, and we don't know what we were thinking in the first place.

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    And Jesus must be so disappointed in me.

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    You ever felt that?

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    Well, we're gonna look at Jesus' response to that.

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    But I have to remind you of three foundational truths before we get into this restoration, because this is it.

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    Three foundational truths that you need to embrace to truly understand the restoration that Jesus brings Peter to here.

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    So I jot these down.

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    Letter A.

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    Three foundational truths you need to embrace.

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    Jesus knew you were going to fail before you did.

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    Okay?

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    So if you're sitting here today, and you're like, "I'm such a failure.

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    I can't believe I did that." Jesus knew you were going to fail before you did.

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    You remember Jesus told Peter exactly how he was going to fail before it happened.

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    You remember that?

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    But sometimes we get this mindset like we blow it and God must be shocked, right?

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    Like we royally messed up, and like some angel goes before the Lord and says, "Hey, you're not gonna believe what so and so did." And God's like, "What? He did what?" You think that your sin shocked God?

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    Really?

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    You think He didn't see it coming?

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    That's a strong stance to take.

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    Jesus knew you were going to fail, even before you did.

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    The letter B, foundational truth.

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    If you have received Jesus Christ, all of your sins are forgiven.

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    Even the bad ones.

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    Even the ones you haven't committed yet.

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    That is a fundamental truth.

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    We get this mindset again, "I received Christ, so now all of the sins I committed..." What's today's date?

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    Is this the 5th?

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    Is this the 5th?

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    Okay, we'll go with that.

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    All the sins I committed before December 5th, if I receive Christ today, all those are forgiven.

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    But if I sin on December 6th, I'm going to have to ask for forgiveness again.

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    That is not true.

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    When you receive Christ, you are in a position of being forgiven.

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    You are in a position of being not guilty.

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    You are pardoned.

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    And it doesn't matter.

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    And obviously as Christians, we don't want to sin.

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    We don't want to dishonor the Lord.

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    that your sin doesn't kick you out of the family, unadopt you, make you unborn again, it doesn't happen.

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    When you receive Christ, all of your sins are forgiven.

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    You stand in a state of no longer condemned.

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    And if you're struggling with that still, I want you to think, just think about it this way.

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    When Jesus was dying on the cross, how many of your sins were in the future from that moment?

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    All of them, right? All of them.

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    So all of your sins are forgiven if you're in Christ.

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    Even the ones you haven't committed yet.

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    Third foundational truth, letter C, today's the day to get back in the game.

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    Today's the day to get back in the game.

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    What are you waiting for?

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    If you're sitting here, or you're watching this stream, and you're like, "Yeah, I blew it." Someday, someday I'm going to get back on track with the Lord.

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    Someday, someday I'm going to get back to church and worship, I'm going to get back to reading my Bible someday.

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    I'm like, what are you waiting for?

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    Are you waiting for forgiveness?

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    Because Tetelestai, right?

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    It is finished.

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    That's been accomplished.

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    Today's the day to get back.

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    So knowing your outline, knowing His restoration, here's three things that Jesus calls restored failures to do.

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    Alright, with this as a foundation, three things Jesus calls restored failures to do.

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    Number one, care for His people.

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    Look at verse 15.

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    It says, "When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed My lambs." "Do you love Me more than these?" "More than these, what?" "More than these, what?" Well, some people think Jesus was talking about the fishing gear.

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    Because Peter went back to fishing, and Jesus was pointing at the nets and boats and all of that.

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    "Do you love me more than this stuff?" I don't think that's what He was talking about.

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    Some people say that Jesus was saying, "Do you love me more than you love the other disciples?" And I don't think that's what He was talking about either.

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    I think what Jesus was saying to Peter was, "Peter, do you love Me more than the other disciples love Me?" Like, why would he ask that?

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    Well, Matthew 26.33, you see it again. Mark 14.29, you see Peter elevated himself above the other disciples.

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    And he said, "Hey, even if they all fall away, Jesus, I never will.

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    They'll fail You, but not me." And Jesus is calling Peter back to that statement.

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    Like, "Hey, you love Me more than they do?" And I love Peter's response.

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    You see the humility.

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    He focuses on the Lord's knowledge, right?

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    He says, "Yes, Lord, You know.

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    You know that I love You." And Jesus says to him, "Feed My lambs." Obviously, He was saying, "Take care of My people.

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    Disciple people. Make disciples.

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    Carry out the mission of evangelism that I've called you to, Peter.

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    And My mission is loving and caring for people.

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    That's the mission.

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    And I want you to do that." And I guarantee you, Peter wanted the conversation to end right there.

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    Like, okay, got it.

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    But it didn't end there.

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    Look at verse 16.

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    Jesus said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend My sheep." He said to him the third time, Simon said of John, "Do you love me?" Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, "Do you love me?" And he said to him, "Lord, you know everything.

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    You know that I love you." Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep." So Jesus asks Peter three times if he loves him.

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    Do you think Peter caught the connection?

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    I denied you three times, and now you're asking me three times.

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    But there's a little nuance in the Greek that is worth mentioning.

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    You see, the Greek language, there are different words for love.

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    We're kind of limited in the English language.

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    We say "love," and we say "love" about everything, right?

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    I love my wife, I love my dog, I love hockey, I love pizza.

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    I don't love all those things the same way.

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    Right?

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    But there were different words for love in the Greek, and there are two words used here.

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    And it's the word "agape," which is the self-sacrificing love, the committed love, the "you before me" kind of love.

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    And then there's "phileo," which is like affection, like brotherly love.

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    "Valeo" is the kind of love you have for your friends that you don't have for a stranger.

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    "Oh, I like this guy, and he's my buddy, and I care about this guy." That's "valeo." And sometimes, these words are used synonymously, but in this context, there's a very clear distinction that's made.

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    And it helps us understand the conversation.

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    So if I can paraphrase by inserting the words, "agape," self-sacrificing love, "phileo," brotherly love or affection.

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    To paraphrase this conversation, literally in the Greek, Jesus says to Peter, "Peter, do you agape me?

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    Are you committed to me?" And Peter says, "Lord, you know I care about you." The second time, Jesus says, "Peter, do you have a God-baby?

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    Are you committed to me?" And Peter says, "You know that I care about you, Jesus." Then the third time, Jesus says, "Peter, do you care about me?" You see, when Jesus used the word that Peter used, Peter was grieved.

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    Peter was saying, "You know everything.

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    And obviously from my failure that you totally predicted, you know me better than I know myself, Jesus.

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    You know that I "faleo" you." Peter was so reluctant to make the claim of total commitment.

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    "Peter, do you agape me?" And Peter's like, "Yeah, you know, I swore that I was the most agape devoted disciple of all of them.

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    But we all saw that that wasn't true, didn't we?" Peter's saying, "All I can...

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    Phileo is, "That's all I got. I care about you. You know that I care about you, Lord." But I want you to see Jesus' plan to restore Peter was just one question.

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    And it's the most important question.

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    This is what we have to get to the heart of.

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    It's this, total agape committed love for Christ drives you to love Christ's people.

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    I just find it so fascinating that Jesus came here, obviously, to restore Peter.

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    I find it so fascinating the things that Jesus didn't do, that we would naturally do if that was us in a situation.

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    Like, what do you mean? I mean this.

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    Jesus didn't ask Peter if he was sorry.

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    Do you notice that?

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    Jesus didn't make Peter promise to never do it again.

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    Like if you want to get ministry, all right, well listen, you're going to stop this denying me stuff, all right?

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    You promise?

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    You promise?

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    You're not going to do this again?

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    He didn't.

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    Jesus didn't do those things.

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    He went right to the heart.

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    He said, "Listen, Peter, I got to ask you a question, man.

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    Do you love me?

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    He challenged Peter's love.

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    That was the question.

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    Like, why?

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    Because Jesus wants your heart.

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    Jesus knows if He has your heart, the rest of you is going to follow.

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    So for those of you who are feeling off track, not close with God right now, ashamed of yourself, I have a word for you from the Word of God, and that is this, Jesus loves you.

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    There is no question about that whatsoever.

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    God demonstrated His love once and for all.

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    He loves you.

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    Probably the only question that you need to ask yourself is, "Do you love Him?" That's what Jesus was driving at.

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    The same call to Peter is just as real to you.

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    Do you love Jesus?

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    Then feed His sheep!

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    Do you love Jesus?

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    You should show it by taking care of His people, by getting involved in ministry, by being plugged into a small group and pouring into people and investing in people's lives.

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    Be intentional about showing your love for Jesus by loving His people.

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    That's what Jesus called Peter to.

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    That's what He's calling you to today.

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    Do you love Him?

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    And you're like, "Yeah, you know what Jeff, I do, but I don't feel worthy." None of us are worthy!

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    Right?

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    And that's one of the most beautiful things about the gospel.

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    He makes you worthy.

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    And if you can't accept that, then you haven't really understood what happened on the cross.

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    For some of you, what you need to do is embrace His restoration.

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    You need to embrace His grace.

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    And absolutely, if you have wronged someone in whatever way you blew it, if you've wronged someone, you need to make restitution.

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    That's part of repentance.

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    Absolutely.

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    But it's time to end the pity party.

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    And get back on the mission.

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    "Oh, I failed, I messed up, I'm such a loser." Hey, we're all losers.

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    That's why Jesus died.

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    Back to the mission.

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    Knowing His restoration, three things Jesus calls restored failures to do.

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    First of all, He says, "Care for His people." Secondly, "Follow Him to the end." Follow Him to the end.

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    Look at verse 18.

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    Jesus, again, still speaking to Peter.

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    He says, "Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted.

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    But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go." What in the world is he talking about?

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    Jesus' words there seem cryptic.

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    So thankfully for us, John clarified exactly what Jesus was talking about.

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    Look at verse 19.

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    John says, "This he said to show by what kind of death he was to glorify God.

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    After saying this, he said to him, 'Follow me.'" that Peter was going to give his life for the cause of Christ, glorifying God in His death.

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    History tells us that Peter was crucified upside down because he didn't feel worthy to be crucified in the same manner as his Lord.

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    And people believe that that's what Jesus is referring to here.

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    But you know this is full circle.

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    Three years prior to this event, Jesus showed up at the Sea of Galilee, or Tiberias if you prefer, and after providing this fisherman named Peter a miraculous catch of fish, after all night of not catching anything, Jesus told Peter to follow Him.

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    That's in Luke 5.

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    Fast forward three years later, right here.

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    The same sea.

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    Another miraculous catch of fish.

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    After another night of not catching anything, Jesus tells a fisherman named Peter to follow Him.

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    Do you see that?

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    Peter's story ends where it began.

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    Where Jesus shows up and says, "Follow me." I mean, he answered the call before, and now Jesus is calling Peter to recommit.

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    "Okay, I have big plans for you.

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    Follow me.

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    Led by the shepherd wherever he takes you." Jesus made it so clear in His ministry that being a disciple only means being willing to follow all the way.

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    That's the only kind of disciple there is.

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    And I think that's what Jesus was driving at here.

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    Jesus doesn't have any part-time disciples, no half-committed disciples, no temporary positions available.

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    To follow Jesus means you're willing to follow all the way.

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    the only kind of disciple there is.

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    Wherever he sends you, whether it's in your backyard or in your community or overseas, whatever happens to you, sickness, loss, tragedy, opposition, what are you gonna do?

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    You're gonna quit?

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    Oh, life got hard and I quit, really?

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    Where in the brochure did it say that life was going to be easy with or without Christ.

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    What are you going to do?

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    I'll tell you what, I'd rather face the difficulties of life with Christ than try to fend for myself.

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    You see, the difference between you and Peter is you weren't told how you're going to die.

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    I'm not sure I'd want to know, actually.

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    But what you have in common with Peter told how to live.

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    Jesus, notice He didn't promise Peter it would be easy.

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    He didn't say, "Follow me, Peter, for a Cadillac type faith, health and wealth." He says, "Hey, this is going to result in a brutal death for you.

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    Follow me." Jesus promises Peter and us that the road's going to be hard.

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    Do you love Jesus? Then you need to follow Him.

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    Every new call He places on your life has to be a new opportunity for you to renew your commitment to Him.

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    You've got to follow Him to the end.

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    Number three, refuse to compare yourself with others.

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    Three things Jesus calls restored failures to do.

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    Care for his people, follow him to the end, and refuse to compare yourself with others.

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    Look at verse 20.

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    Okay, so Jesus is like, "Follow me." Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved, that's John, following them, the one who had been reclining at the table close to him, and had said, "Lord, who is it that is going to betray you.

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    When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, "Lord, what about this man?" And if you listen really close, you can almost hear the sounds of the face palms from the other disciples when Peter said this to Jesus.

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    You get the scene, "Do you love me?

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    And you're gonna give your life for me.

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    And I want you to follow me and cue the music.

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    And then you hear the needle scratching across the record when Peter's like, "But what about this man?" And all the other disciples were like, "What about this man?" Do you remember, Peter, the last time that you were comparing yourself to the other disciples?

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    "Even if they fall away, I never will." Remember how that worked out?

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    and you still have your eyes on what the other disciples are doing.

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    Wow.

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    Well, Jesus, verse 22 says, "Jesus said to him, 'It is My will that he remain until I come.'" What is that to you?

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    You follow Me.

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    What did Jesus mean by that?

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    "If it is My will that he remain until I come." Is this some...

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    Did He mean like in a spiritual sense?

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    Is He talking hypothetically?

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    Well we know what He didn't mean.

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    Verse 23, "So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die." Yeah, Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but "If it is My will that he remain until I come." What is that to you?

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    Okay, so John clarifies.

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    Because people misunderstood what Jesus said, and he thought it meant that John was going to live until the second coming of Christ.

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    Well, here's the thing, if you're so fixated on what Jesus meant by that statement, then you missed the point.

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    And Jesus' point was simply this.

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    do with John is none of your business. You follow me. But what about... I got my own thing happening with John. You don't worry about that. You, you follow me. And before we pick on Peter, we all do it.

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    We get so much more interested in other people's journey with Christ than our own.

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    Whether it's good or bad, positive or negative, we do this.

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    We get fixated on other people's walks.

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    We do it all the time.

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    So much more concerned about whether or not somebody else is following Jesus than we're We're not looking at, am I following Jesus?

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    We hear so much like Peter here.

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    I hear this all the time.

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    They're like, "Hey, Pastor Jeff, did you see this church down the road?

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    They're basing their entire Christmas sermons.

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    They're Christmas, they were advertising.

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    They're basing their entire Christmas sermons on Michael Jackson songs.

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    Like, what do you think about that?" Like, I really don't care.

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    What that church is doing has nothing to do with me, right?

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    Not my business.

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    There's only one church that I'm really concerned about, and it's this one.

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    Jesus says, "You follow me." And some of you are like, "Well, what about the sex abuse in the Catholic church?" Pray for them.

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    But that has nothing to do with your walk, does it?

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    Jesus says, "You follow me." Somebody would say, "Well, what about my husband?

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    He doesn't go to church, he doesn't seem interested." And I would say, "Well, Jesus will deal with him.

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    And Jesus is dealing with you when he says, 'You follow me.'" And I just, I've heard this so many times.

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    You know, that preacher on TV did this, and I went to this church, and it was scandalous, and the pastor did this and he was, and they're all hypocrites.

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    And somehow people use that as justification to not follow Christ personally.

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    Like, why don't you follow Christ?

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    Because I saw some TV preacher did this.

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    What?

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    Who gives a rep?

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    There's hypocrites everywhere.

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    And when you do that, you're just like Peter.

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    Oh, what about this guy?

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    And Jesus says to you, just what He says to Peter, "Hey, not your business.

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    You follow me." Because here's the reality.

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    If you're gonna start comparing yourself to other people, you are always going to find somebody further down the road than you, more mature than you, has their act together a little bit better than you.

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    You're always gonna find that person.

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    And you'll, "Oh, I'm never gonna be as good as that guy." And you're always gonna find somebody that is dishonoring Christ and making a mockery of the faith.

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    You're always gonna find that guy too.

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    And their journey has nothing to do with you.

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    Comparing yourself with someone else is pointless because God has a plan for you and your journey.

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    And the only person that you need to worry about, are they following Jesus?

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    That's you.

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    You need to worry about you, all right?

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    So have you blown it?

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    Did you get off track?

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    Do you feel guilty that you failed Christ in some way?

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    Well, listen, you're forgiven.

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    Tetelestai, your sins have been paid for.

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    You need to get back to one thing, and that's asking yourself this, do I love Jesus Christ?

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    Do I love him?

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    Well, then prove it.

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    He proved his love for you.

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    What are you doing to prove your love for him?

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    Get back on the horse.

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    Care for his people.

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    Be faithful no matter what happens.

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    And stop comparing yourself to others.

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    As Jesus says to you today, "Do you love me?

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    "Follow me." Last two verses here.

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    Says, "This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things and who has written these things.

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    And we know that his testimony is true.

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    Now there are also many other things that Jesus did.

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    Were every one of them to be written?

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    I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

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    So John's gospel is completed, though he could have written a whole lot more.

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    But the story of Jesus is far from over.

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    Because that story includes you.

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    Yes, you.

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    Even if you messed up.

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    Even if you messed up really bad.

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    Let Jesus restore you.

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    Because you've got some sheep to feed.

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    Alright? Let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, we thank you for the grace in which we stand.

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    That if we're truly being honest, there's not a person in this room or watching this stream that deserves anything from you.

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    And you've given us everything.

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    Every single one of us should stand eternally condemned for the way that we've dishonored you with horribly wicked thoughts, harsh words, deceptive actions, hateful conduct, that you put our sin on your son.

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    And oh, like Peter, we still mess up.

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    And like Peter, we still wonder if we should just go back to doing things our old way.

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    But we see Jesus still pursue us.

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    So Father, I want to pray specifically for the person who maybe feels like they've messed up so badly that there's no possible way you're ever going to do anything with them.

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    I pray, Father, You would bring to their heart and mind the path of restitution and repentance needs to look like if they've wronged anyone.

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    But Father, I pray that they would embrace the reality that all of our sins are forgiven in Christ.

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    And it's Your desire to bring us to a better place.

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    I pray, Father, they wouldn't delay.

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    Let your Spirit press on them the urgency of getting back, defeating your sheep.

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    I pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read John
21:1-25

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

  2. Why did Jesus ask Peter three times if Peter loved Him (John 21:15-17)? Why was Peter grieved (John 21:17)? What does this conversation teach us about the Lord's restoration of a failure?

  3. What was Jesus telling Peter to do when He said “Feed my lambs / Tend my sheep” (John 21:15-17)? What is this commanding us to do, ie, how do we fulfill that?

  4. Why did Peter ask about John (John 21:21)? Why do we tend to compare our walk with Christ with someone else's? Why is this foolish?

Breakout
Pray for one another.