Do You Know It All?

Introduction:

Job 1:22 - In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.

Job 2:10 - In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

Job 7:20 - “Why have you made me your mark? Why have I become a burden to you?”

Job 13:3 - “But I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire to argue my case with God.”

See: Job 23:2-6

Questions to Ask Myself When I Question God (Job 38-39):

  1. Am I qualified to evaluate the One who Supervises Me ? (Job 38:1-3)

    Circle the correct answer: - Yes or No

  2. Am I able to know more than the One who Created Everything ? (Job 38:4-21)

    Circle the correct answer: - Yes or No

    Psalm 115:3 - Our God is in the heavens; He does all that He pleases.

    Galatians 6:7 - Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows that will He also reap.

  3. Am I wise enough to give advice to the One who Directs What I Cannot Control ? (Job 38:22-39:30)

    Circle the correct answer: - Yes or No

    Romans 11:34-35 - “For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been His counselor?” “Or who has given a gift to Him that He might be repaid?”

    1 Corinthians 1:18 - For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

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  • 01:12-01:14

    Return your Bibles to Job chapter 38.

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    Job chapter 38.

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    As some of you already know, I am one of the few non-sports fans in a city that's absolutely rabid for the Steelers and the Pirates, well, kind of, sort of the Pirates, and the Penguins, right?

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    I may not love to watch three-hour long games on Sunday afternoons or nights or weeknights, but I do love to watch the responses that people have to these games.

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    I find it to be an endlessly fascinating social experiment to see these guys come out of the woodwork to question the calls of coaches who know way more about football than they ever will.

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    You know, once a game is over, they will just question every single call, say, "I could do better.

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    "If only I had the head set.

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    "If only I had the clipboard and the sidelines, "I could have won that game." Or they question the calls of professional athletes who have endlessly trained at our peak physical specimens, but somehow they could do better, even though these schlubs are watching the game, laying on their couch, stuffing their face with Doritos, Oreos, Mountain Dew, while having naps in between games, right?

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    But somehow they could do better.

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    Oh, if only I had a shot at that dunk.

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    If only I could go up to the plate against that fastball.

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    If only I could get on the ice for a few shifts.

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    You know what would happen?

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    They would just go out there and publicly embarrass themselves.

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    They would strike out every single time.

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    As soon as they got on the ice, they'd fall flat on their face.

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    When they tried to take the dunk, a six foot giant would just completely demolish them, right?

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    These delusional guys would benefit from taking an honest assessment of themselves and their own abilities and questioning themselves as they questioned the calls of professionals.

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    Yeah, would I really have done any better in their shoes?

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    Fine, probably not.

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    Would I really have done any better in my prime or even right now in my current physical shape, which is much different than it used to be?

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    Okay, no, probably not.

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    But it's really easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, isn't it?

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    It's very easy to be a backseat driver.

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    It's very easy to question the call of those who are higher in authority and talent than you.

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    On a much more serious note, it's very easy to question God, isn't it?

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    It's tempting to question his divine calls, to critique his performance, or evaluate his plans for our lives or this world.

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    We can point a finger at God and blame him for our suffering.

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    We've all done it in the past and we're all gonna do it at many points in the future.

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    We've all thought things like, what in the world is God doing?

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    How could he possibly think that something like this is a good idea?

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    Or if I was in charge, if I was the God of the universe, I would do things much differently.

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    Well, we're in good company because do you know who else questioned God during his suffering?

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    Job.

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    And you may be thinking, hold on a minute.

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    Last Sunday, Pastor Jeff said that Job sinned in response to his suffering, and now you're saying that Job questioned God, but we were told at the end of chapter one in verse 22 that in all this, Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.

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    In chapter two, verse 10, in all this, Job did not sin with his lips.

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    Well, that is all right and true.

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    At that point in the story, Job did not question God.

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    But his questioning came during chapters three to 31, which most people totally skip or heavily skim as they read the book of Job.

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    As a recap, these chapters record a back and forth conversation between Job and his three quote unquote friends, Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar.

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    These friends, or the three stooges as I call them, are convinced that Job must have done something to deserve such suffering, while Job is equally convinced that he did nothing to warrant such misfortune.

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    We studied these 29 chapters two weeks ago, but we focused on the Three Stooges side of the conversation.

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    As you read Job's response to his friends, you will come across a lot of good and right things that he says about God.

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    But you will also come across a lot of him questioning God.

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    A fourth friend named Eli who then shows up on the scene to call Job out for his irreverent speaking about God, which Pastor Jeff preached about last week.

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    Here are a few examples of Job questioning God.

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    Chapter seven, verse 20.

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    Why have you made me your mark?

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    Why have I become a burden to you?

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    Chapter 13, verse three.

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    But I would speak to the Almighty and I desire to argue my case with God.

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    Chapter 23, verse two through six.

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    Today also my complaint is bitter.

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    My hand is heavy on account of my groaning.

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    Oh, that I knew where I might find God.

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    I might even come to his seat.

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    I would lay my case before him and fill my mouth with arguments.

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    I would know what he would answer me and understand what he would say to me.

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    Would he contend with me and the greatness of his power?

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    No, he would pay attention to me.

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    To be clear, Job never curses God.

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    Job never gives up on his faith or walks away from the Lord.

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    Job is just at the end of his rope, and he desperately wants to know why so much bad has fallen upon him.

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    In his mind, some kind of heavenly accounting error must have been made.

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    If only he could talk to God, if only he could explain his side of the story, then maybe all these things could be straightened out.

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    Everything could be cleared up like the wrong order at the Chick-fil-A drive-thru.

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    Isn't it refreshing to see that Job looks a lot more like us than we originally thought?

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    Job doesn't worship perfectly.

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    Job struggles with the why questions.

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    Like the rest of us, Job wants an explanation from God.

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    He wants to know what God is up to and why.

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    Like every single one of us in this room, Job questions God.

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    After many chapters of Job asking the questions, God has some questions for Job.

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    In chapters 38 through 39, God asked Job 41 questions.

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    As Pastor Jeff said a few weeks ago, when God asks questions, he isn't looking for information.

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    He's instead looking for confession, repentance, and transformation.

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    So for the rest of this message, I want each of us to take an honest assessment of ourselves in our own limited ability in light of God and his infinite ability.

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    I want us to evaluate the questions we must ask ourselves whenever we question God.

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    It has been my prayer all week that these questions from God would lead to our personal confession, repentance, and transformation.

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    I want to stop to pray.

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    Please pray for me.

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    I will faithfully preach the truth of God's word, and I will pray for you, that you will faithfully receive and submit to the truth of God's word.

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    Father, we all come into this room in a week when we're supposed to be really thankful and happy.

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    I'm sure that many of us don't feel that way right now.

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    I'm sure there's a lot of people in this room with a lot of questions.

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    with some anger and frustration.

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    Lord, I pray that you'd meet us where we're at and you'd minister to us through your word and that your glory would shine through the darkness that we're experiencing.

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    We ask all these things in Jesus' name, amen.

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    My question is to ask myself when I question God.

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    First question on your outline, am I qualified to evaluate the one who supervises me?

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    "Am I qualified to evaluate the one who supervises me?" Let's read verses one through three of chapter 38.

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    You can follow along in your Bibles.

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    Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, "Who is this that darkens counsel by words "without knowledge, dressed for action like a man?

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    "I will question you, and you make it known to me." The Lord speaks to Job out of a whirlwind which shows off his glory, his awesomeness, his majesty.

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    You know, world leaders and billionaires may ride in fancy jets and fancy cars, but God puts them all to shame by rolling up to the scene in a storm.

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    And God sets up this intense round of questioning with a doozy of an opener.

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    Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

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    In other words, Job, but do you really think you're qualified to question me?

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    You, the guy who has no idea what's happening behind the curtain.

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    Job has said a lot of wise things about God, but like every single one of us, Job has said a lot of foolish things about God as well.

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    Check out verse three again, as God lays out the rules of this interrogation.

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    Dress for action like a man, I will question you and you will make it known to me.

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    These are fighting words.

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    Dress for action like a man can also be translated as gird up your loins.

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    When was the last time you said that?

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    That doesn't really mean very much to us in 2024.

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    Another way of saying this is, man up and get your big boy pants on.

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    Let's get ready to rumble 'cause we're going to the mat on this one.

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    You think you're so smart.

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    You think you know so much.

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    How about you tell me what's what?

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    'Cause at times throughout chapters three to 31, Job tries to reverse roles and act as if he's God's supervisor, when the exact opposite is actually true.

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    God is Job's supervisor, which is about to become crystal clear.

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    We live in a culture that is obsessed with rating other people, places, and experiences.

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    I mean, just think about it.

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    Before you shell out a small fortune to go to a movie, I imagine the craze you would have to pay a lot of money You go to the movies with your whole entire family and you pay for a $50 box of popcorn that'll probably make you a little bit sick later on.

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    What do you do?

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    You go on Rotten Tomatoes, look at the audience and critic score, right, to see if it's worth the investment before you go to a nice, fancy restaurant you've never been to before.

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    What do you do?

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    You go on Yelp, TripAdvisor to see if it's great or gross.

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    You have a bad experience at an Airbnb or an Uber ride.

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    What do you do immediately after?

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    you review vomit on their app in anger, right?

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    We watch reality competition shows that include number ratings, one star to five stars, red Xs, green Xs, thumbs up, thumbs down, a turned chair, a cold shoulder.

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    We love, we get a rush out of evaluating other people, especially giving them a bad review, especially giving a bad rating.

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    Go on Google reviews and the most passion ratings aren't the one thing, it was great, it was one thing, it was terrible.

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    People feel special and important doing that.

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    We must realize that we're not in a position to evaluate God in this way.

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    We are not his employer who we do quarterly reviews for.

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    He is not a product on Amazon for us to rate.

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    He is not a waiter that we can complain about to the manager.

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    In any way, God's rating is fixed and unchanging.

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    It is impossible for God to get less a 10 out of 10, an A plus, two thumbs way up, whatever ratings for how he is working in your life, my life, in this world.

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    Even when it seems like God is failing, he is always succeeding.

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    Whenever it seems like his plans have stalled out, they're always perfectly moving forward exactly on schedule.

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    When you're frustrated in the dark about what God is up to and what's going on, The light of his glory is always shining in every circumstance.

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    So in light of verses one through two, circle the right answer to the first question on your outline.

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    Am I qualified to evaluate the one who supervises me?

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    And don't you have anyone else, don't look at anybody else's paper 'cause we're all gonna compare notes at the end of the sermon.

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    Circle the right answer.

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    Second question to ask myself when I question God, am I able to know more than the one who created everything?

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    Am I able to know more than the one who created everything?

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    Raise your hand if you know about the five love languages.

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    If you are married or you've been in a relationship of any kind at some point, you've come across the five love languages.

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    In last service, I asked people and they didn't say anything, you know, they also, they heard about it.

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    So I'm just gonna read them all for you to avoid that awkward encounter again.

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    Words of affirmation, physical touch, acts of service, gift giving, and quality time.

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    If it was up to me, I would add a sixth one to that list, and that would be one that my wife and I share, and that is sarcasm.

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    Raise your hand if you would say you're a sarcastic person.

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    Raise your hand if you hate sarcasm.

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    All right, great, we're all mean together, awesome.

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    all sarcastic people.

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    We're the least well adjusted people in Pittsburgh.

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    You know, sarcasm can be fun, but it can also be really hurtful, right?

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    It can be destructive.

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    It can ruin relationships.

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    But in the hands of God Almighty, sarcasm is a powerful tool, which we see all throughout his questioning of Job.

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    God sarcastically pretends to elevate Job to a position of prominence that he does not and cannot possibly have.

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    God sarcastically pretends that Job knows everything to show that Job knows next to nothing.

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    He does this to humble Job and show off how glorious he really is.

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    God starts at the very beginning in chapter 38, verses four through five.

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    Follow along with me in your Bibles.

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    Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?

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    Tell me if you have understanding.

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    Who determined its measurements?

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    Surely you know, or who stretched the line upon it?

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    You'd have to not pay attention to Mr. Sarcasm here.

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    Job, where were you when I created everything?

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    Oh wait, that's right, you didn't even exist yet.

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    No one else did besides me.

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    Surely you know who took a big measuring stick to lay out how big, deep, and wide the earth would be.

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    Well surely Job knows it wasn't him who did it.

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    And God continues to unveil Job's lack of knowledge in verses six through 11.

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    On what were its bases sunk?

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    Or who laid its cornerstone?

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    When the morning stars sang together, all the sons of God shouted for joy.

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    Or who shot in the sea with doors?

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    When it burst out from the womb.

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    When I made clouds its garments and thick darkness its swaddling band.

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    And I prescribed limits for it and set bars and doors.

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    And said, thus far you shall come and no farther.

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    and here shall your proud waves be stayed.

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    God then moves past the six days of creation to zero in on what he has actually created.

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    We are so stuck in our own limited location in POV that we fail to truly think about the true mystery of the planet we live on.

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    The mystery of the universe we are all small, itty bitty parts of.

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    We're all like small bits of dust that barely register on the scale in comparison to the oceans, the mountains, and the galaxies.

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    I mean, just think about our planet for a minute.

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    God asked Job in 38, 16, have you entered into the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep?

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    Hey, Job, did you swim through every single inch of all the oceans that cover 71% of the earth?

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    Have you gone down to the very bottom of the Challenger Trench, over 35,000 feet, to touch the bottom and swim back up?

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    And what's the answer?

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    You're all gonna need to learn to shout no a lot louder.

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    I'm gonna ask you many more times.

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    3818, have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?

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    Job, have you exhaustively traveled every single path, explored every jungle, traversed every desert?

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    Have you covered the 197 million square miles that make up this planet?

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    And the answer is, much better.

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    Let's shoot into space for a minute to see how much Job knows about what's going on up there.

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    38 verses 31 through 33.

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    Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?

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    Can you lead forth the Maseroth and their seed or can you guide the bear with its children?

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    Do you know the ordinances of heaven?

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    Can you establish their rule on the earth?

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    Job, are you the one who holds the constellations together?

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    Are you the one who placed all 200 billion trillion stars in the sky and keeps them from scattering and falling?

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    Answer, with question after question after question, God keeps drilling down this one main point.

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    He is the creator, not Job.

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    He is the source of life, not Job.

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    He is the sustainer, not Job.

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    When you create something, you have ownership of it.

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    Which means that God is the one who owns the world.

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    Not you, not me, not Job, not anyone else in the entire world, no matter who they are, what title they have, or how much money is in their bank account.

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    God owns it all because he made it all.

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    Because God owns it all, He knows what is best.

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    Because God owns it all, He can do whatever He wants to do.

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    And because God is holy and perfect, whatever He wants to do is right and good even when we don't agree with Him.

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    As we're told in Psalm 115.3, "Our God is in the heavens, He does all that He pleases." Do you like that verse?

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    How does that verse strike you?

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    It's not exactly a verse you see on bumper stickers or coffee mugs, right?

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    And we live in a culture that spits in the face of that verse.

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    The motto of our culture is God is nowhere to be seen, so I'm gonna do everything that pleases me.

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    Turn on the news, open up social media, and it won't take long to come across content that screams I know better than God.

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    Let's go through some of the list.

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    Gender is just a societal construct that we force upon kids against their will at birth.

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    You can move up and down the gender spectrum as much as you want.

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    Marriage isn't just between a man or a woman.

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    And speaking of marriage, as long as you're feeling happy and fulfilled, stay in that marriage, but if you're not feeling happy and fulfilled, look for your happiness elsewhere.

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    where life doesn't begin at conception.

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    That fetus is just a clump of cells.

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    It's not an actual person.

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    And you may be nodding your head right now, amening in your heart, but please know that you and I are not exempt from this I know better than God mentality.

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    None of us are.

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    We are all guilty of this.

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    Your I know it all list may not be as blatantly obvious as the examples I just listed, but it still dishonors God and damages your soul.

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    You know that you're expected to spend time with God every day in his word and in prayer, but you don't.

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    You say things like, "Well, work is just too hectic "right now, I wake up exhausted and I go to bed "even more exhausted to show for my kids "around all their activities.

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    "Life is just too busy right now.

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    "I have more pressing things to do." You know what God's word definitively says, but you act as if you know better.

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    You know what is expected, but you create your own list of expectations to push down the conviction that you feel.

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    You know, there are men in this room who are leading lives of secret lust behind closed doors.

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    And no one knows except for you and God.

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    You try to justify this sexually inappropriate behavior by convincing yourself it's not a big deal.

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    I mean, yeah, sometimes I visit those websites, but it's only because my wife doesn't meet my physical needs like she used to.

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    I'm not addicted, I can stop any time I want.

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    I mean, sure, I fantasize about other women, but I would never act on those fantasies.

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    It's just a release whenever I'm stressed.

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    Again, you know what God's word has to say about sexual sin, but you're the exception to the rule.

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    God created sex and he knows how it works best, Well, you're doing just fine cuddling outside the lines.

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    Or maybe you're wound very tight and you blow up at people at work.

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    You blow up at your spouse, you blow up at your kids.

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    You know that the Bible says the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God, but hey, it's not your fault, right?

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    Taylor, you don't understand how dysfunctional my workplace is.

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    I have to yell to get guys in line.

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    Or my kids just constantly get under my skin to make me so angry.

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    My spouse knows how to push my buttons, what else am I supposed to do?

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    There it is again, the I know better than God mindset in a very, very subtle way.

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    Or maybe abusing alcohol is a big issue for you.

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    Beer, liquor, wine is the finish line you wanna reach by the end of the day.

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    It is your constant reward for enduring the hardships of life.

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    You keep making lines in the sand, you keep crossing.

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    I'm just gonna drink on the weekends, but then you find yourself drinking every single night of the week.

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    I'm just gonna have one, but then you have many, many, many more.

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    When you go out with your friends, you drink way more than you should.

    24:57-25:04

    You know what the Bible says about drunkenness and being controlled by anything or anyone besides the Holy Spirit, but you have your excuses.

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    Once again, you know better than God.

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    And maybe none of the examples I just listed relate to you, but again, I want to remind all of us that you are not exempt and I am not exempt.

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    And I hope and pray that the Holy Spirit is convicting all of us of the ways we try to trick ourselves into believing we can outsmart God.

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    How much longer will you try to believe your own lies?

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    How much longer will you travel down this destructive path of self-justification?

    25:41-25:47

    What will you have to lose before you realize that your pride will catch up to you?

    25:50-25:55

    Paul offers this loving yet stern warning in Galatians 6-7, "Do not be deceived.

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    "God is not mocked.

    25:57-26:08

    "For whatever one sows, that he will also reap." For whatever you're going through, whatever you're struggling with right now, the grace of God is offered to you.

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    By God's grace, choose to repent now rather than be caught later.

    26:15-26:21

    By the grace of God, choose to willingly humble yourself now rather than be forcibly humbled later.

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    Choose to change now rather than be ashamed later.

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    You choose to take God at His word rather than trust your own opinions, which are very often misguided and wrong.

    26:36-26:39

    So let's return to the second question that we must ask ourselves when we question God.

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    Am I able to know more than the one who created everything?

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    Circle the right answer on your outline.

    26:50-26:53

    Final question to ask myself when I question God.

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    Am I wise enough to give advice to the one who directs what I cannot control?

    26:59-27:04

    Am I wise enough to give advice to the one who directs what I cannot control?

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    I don't wanna harp on this point too much because that is gonna be the major focus of Pastor Jeff's message next week, I don't wanna step on his toes too much, but I do want to give you a sneak preview of the total control of God in contrast to Job's utter lack of control.

    27:23-27:25

    Let's check out a few more questions from God.

    27:26-27:31

    3834, can you lift up your voice to the clouds that a flood of waters may cover you?

    27:32-27:35

    Job, are you able to boss the clouds around and make them rain?

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    What's the answer?

    27:38-27:42

    3835, can you send forth the lightning that they may go and say to you, here we are.

    27:43-27:45

    Job, does the lightning report to you for duty?

    27:45-27:47

    Are you the lightning traffic controller?

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    What's the answer?

    27:49-27:59

    We could be here all morning going through every single question, but I wanna wrap up focusing on a few questions that are about God's control of the creatures he has made.

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    Chapter 38, verses 39 through 41.

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    Can you hunt the prey for the lion or satisfy the appetite of the young lions when they crouch in their dens or lie in wait in the thicket?

    28:11-28:17

    Who provides the ravenous prey when its young ones cry to God for help and wander about for lack of food?

    28:19-28:21

    Chapter 39, verses 19 through 20.

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    Do you give the horse his might?

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    Do you clothe his neck with a mane?

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    Do you make him leap like the locust?

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    His majestic snorting is terrifying.

    28:31-28:37

    39, 26 through 27, is it by your understanding that the hawk soars and spreads his wings towards the south?

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    Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up and makes his nest on high?

    28:45-28:52

    You know, these questions from God about the animal kingdom remind me of a question I've been asking myself as I walked my dog Murdoch around the neighborhood recently.

    28:53-28:59

    Recently I was walking my dog up and down our street and I noticed these signs on every single stop sign and utility pole.

    29:01-29:06

    Apparently there's a lost parent on the loose in Shale named Shio and I have to be on the lookout for it.

    29:07-29:09

    Before I continue on, has anyone seen this bird?

    29:11-29:12

    Anybody, please, somebody.

    29:14-29:18

    Oh, okay, I want to do my neighborly duty at least to ask.

    29:18-29:25

    And I could swear that I heard across from my house, I could have heard him saying, "Hey, hey." But it could have been me making it up, I have no idea.

    29:26-29:30

    But every single time I see this sign, I ask myself the same exact question.

    29:32-29:35

    What would I possibly do if I found this parrot?

    29:36-29:40

    Am I capable of controlling this parrot and making it come to me?

    29:41-29:44

    As I walk Murdoch, I think of all these different scenarios of what I could do.

    29:45-29:49

    I look up parrot calls on YouTube, all walking around with a butterfly net.

    29:50-29:57

    I carry around saltine crackers and sprinkle them on my shoulder, hopefully a little perch there, and run back to my house before it flies away again.

    29:58-30:02

    With each scenario I came up with, I came up short, to be honest.

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    The answer to the question of am I capable of controlling this parrot and making it come to me became obvious, no.

    30:12-30:17

    And the same answer goes for God's questions about Job's ability to control all the animals around the world.

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    I am not a Pittsburgh aviary worker.

    30:21-30:22

    I am not the parrot whisperer.

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    And Job cannot keep every single hungry lion fed.

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    He cannot make sure that every single bird is taken care of.

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    He can't groom every single horse.

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    He can't make sure that every single hawk and eagle can fly.

    30:38-30:41

    In the grand scheme of things, Job cannot do very much.

    30:42-30:47

    His contributions to making the earth function is so negligible that it's laughable.

    30:49-30:55

    It's truly astounding to consider how much God directs and how little we actually control.

    30:57-31:03

    But it's equally shocking how much we try to advise God and give him suggestions.

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    Does anyone else ever try to give God advice when they pray?

    31:08-31:09

    All right, me and Candace, we definitely do that.

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    Nobody else, I guess.

    31:11-31:14

    Well, me and Cain's will listen to this verse, it'll be really helpful for us.

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    Romans 11, 34 to 35.

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    For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?

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    Or who has given a gift to him that he might be repaid?

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    So we're clear on the fact that God does not want or need a counselor.

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    So the scenario I'm about to lay out for you is far-fetched, it would never happen, but just use your imaginations, okay?

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    Can you all just humor me for a bit?

    31:40-31:44

    Imagine if, if I was God's counselor and key advice giver.

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    How would I do at that job?

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    Be honest, come on, we're in church, be honest, okay, I'm getting a thumbs down, okay, calm down, okay, I do bad, but. (laughs) I would do horrible, right?

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    I would make a mess out of everything.

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    When I look at the Bible and see all of God's plans and decisions, I would have advised him in the complete opposite direction.

    32:11-32:14

    God, are you sure you want to let Satan pick on poor Job so much?

    32:14-32:16

    Come on, you know that he loves you.

    32:16-32:17

    Why do you let him go through all this?

    32:19-32:22

    God, leading the Israelites out of Egypt with Moses?

    32:23-32:23

    Really?

    32:24-32:25

    He's a stuttering murderer.

    32:25-32:27

    There has to be a better choice than him.

    32:28-32:30

    Or David as the next king of Israel?

    32:32-32:33

    How about one of his brothers?

    32:33-32:34

    A little bit more impressive.

    32:36-32:37

    How about this one?

    32:38-32:45

    You wanna send your own son to come to this earth to be executed and hung on a cross.

    32:45-32:48

    There has to be another way to save sinners, right?

    32:49-32:49

    Wrong.

    32:51-32:56

    I would be wrong in all accounts, especially when it comes to the death of Jesus Christ.

    32:58-33:03

    To the fleshly and human mind, the crucifixion of the Son of God makes no sense.

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    to thank the Lord that he does things so much differently than we do.

    33:08-33:13

    Praise God in heaven that he keeps his own counsel and does not seek advice from anyone.

    33:16-33:33

    Paul echoes this in 1 Corinthians 1:18, "For the word of the cross is folly "to those who are perishing, "but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." God does things in ways that seem foolish to us to show off his wisdom.

    33:34-33:40

    God allowed his son to suffer and die in the way of human weakness so that he could rise again in power.

    33:41-33:46

    Jesus willingly laid down his own life so that we could live forever and ever and ever.

    33:49-34:06

    Harvest, if God was right about that which seemed the most foolish to our puny brains, let's trust that God doesn't need our suggestions or advice about the seemingly foolish ways that he is handling our current sufferings.

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    If God could bring the greatest possible good out of the evilest event in human history, we can rest secure that he will bring blessing out of our difficult circumstances that seem like curses right now.

    34:25-34:27

    So let's circle the answer to the final question or outline this morning.

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    Am I wise enough to give advice to the one who directs what I cannot control?

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    Circle the right answer.

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    All right, pens and pencils down.

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    Test is over.

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    Let's share our answers that we circled throughout the message.

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    Question is to ask myself when I question God.

    34:50-34:54

    First up, am I qualified to evaluate the one who supervises me?

    34:54-34:55

    What's the answer?

    34:57-34:59

    Am I able to know more than the one who created everything?

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    Finally, am I wise enough to give advice to the one who directs what I cannot control?

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    Congratulations, you got every answer right.

    35:12-35:14

    It's so easy to circle the right answer on a piece of paper, isn't it?

    35:17-35:28

    It's so easy to shout it out with passion during a worship service, but it's so hard to believe these are the right answers when you're out in the real world getting punched in the face by life.

    35:31-35:39

    It's hard to remind ourselves of these answers in the heat of frustration and the fog of confusion and the darkness of the grief that we experience.

    35:42-35:53

    Instead of trying to get God to submit to our questions, let us instead submit to God who has all the right answers to our questions, even though he doesn't often share them with us.

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    As the worship team comes back, please quiet your minds, close your eyes, and bow your heads.

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    You know, every single one of us in this room is questioning God about something or someone.

    36:09-36:19

    Maybe it's an issue at work, a relational strain, a health issue, a sudden loss of someone you really cared about.

    36:22-36:25

    Bring that issue to God and lay it before his throne.

    36:27-36:29

    Worship him for who he is.

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    Thank him for what he is doing.

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    And ask for his help to submit to his plans, no matter what.

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    Take a minute or two to be with the Lord.

    36:44-36:48

    Father, we all have so many questions.

    36:50-36:51

    And you have all the answers.

    36:54-36:56

    But again, you don't always share them with us.

    36:56-36:57

    You tell us what we need to know.

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    Lord, we've seen what we need to know in your word this morning, that you are sovereign, that you are in control, that you know exactly what you're doing.

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    That you're on the throne of this universe and you are ruling and you are reigning.

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    We lift up every single person in this room who is suffering right now.

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    I pray you'd comfort them with the truth of your word.

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    I pray they would stop believing the lies that they tricked themselves into believing.

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    I pray for those of us in this room who don't have a relationship with Christ.

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    May today be the day of salvation.

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    May today be the day where they finally lay their sins before you and confess Jesus as Savior and Lord to be forgiven of all their sins.

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    Lord, you are good.

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    All that you do is right.

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    Help us to truly believe that.

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    In Jesus' name, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Covering
Job 38-39

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. What does it look like to question God? How do you see yourself questioning God right now?

  3. Go around and share things that you cannot possibly know about this life, this world, and this universe. How should these things that we do not know affect our view of God and ourselves?

  4. Can you think of a time when you tried to advise/counsel God but His plans ended up being way better than your own?

Breakout (men and women separate):
Share how you struggle with a “I know better than God” mentality right now and pray for one another.

Be More THAT Guy

Introduction:

How to Help Sufferers Who Are in a Bad Place (Job 32-37):

  1. Deal in Truth . (Job 32-33)
    1. Deal in God's Word, not Man's .
    2. Deal with what is Said , not what you Suppose.
  2. Address their Conduct . (Job 34)
    1. Point out Worldy behavior.
    2. Point the way Forward .
  3. Ask about their Walk with God. (Job 35)
    1. Are you Maturely responding to suffering?
    2. Are you crying About God or crying To God?
  4. Leave room for Mystery . (Job 36-37)
    1. We must be okay with not knowing Everything .
    2. We must Act on what we do know.

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  • 01:13-01:17

    Open up those Bibles to the book of Job, chapter 32.

    01:20-01:22

    While you're turning, I just want to pause for a moment.

    01:22-01:30

    I'm going to ask that you would please pray for me to clearly and accurately communicate the word of God.

    01:31-01:35

    And I will pray for you to be ready to receive it.

    01:36-01:39

    We've got a lot of ground to cover today, but we are going to get through this together.

    01:40-01:41

    All right, let's pray.

    01:46-02:01

    Father in heaven, as we turn to your Word, it is your Word that encourages us and challenges us and grows us.

    02:01-02:10

    And I'm just asking now, Father, that once again, your Word would do your work.

    02:11-02:16

    So often we have a way of thinking about things that are wrong.

    02:19-02:23

    And by Your grace, You've corrected wrong thinking with Your Word.

    02:24-02:30

    So I pray, Father, that there'd be a lot of bad thinking corrected today in all of our lives.

    02:31-02:35

    Let us tune in, Father, to what You want to teach us.

    02:36-02:37

    We pray in Jesus' name.

    02:37-02:48

    And all of God's people said, "Job was a godly and wealthy man.

    02:49-03:09

    And Satan questioned Job's motives for worshiping God." God permitted Satan to take everything away from Job, including all his wealth and 10 kids.

    03:12-03:20

    Then when that wasn't good enough for Satan, he was permitted to take Job's health.

    03:21-03:23

    It was covered with loads and sores.

    03:23-03:30

    And last week, Pastor Taylor walked us through a giant chunk of scripture, did an amazing job doing it by the way.

    03:30-03:40

    But we saw Job had three friends who Taylor and I call the three stooges, Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar.

    03:41-03:45

    They showed up to encourage Job.

    03:47-03:48

    And that didn't go so well.

    03:51-04:04

    Well, when we get to chapters 32 through 37, we're going to see, it seems like these chapters cover a lot of the same content as chapters three through 31.

    04:07-04:08

    But there's a big difference.

    04:08-04:11

    And I get a front load with this, because if we miss this, we'll miss the whole thing.

    04:15-04:39

    You see, Job's three friends said, "Job, you're suffering because you sinned." And this young man that we're going to talk about today, Elihu says, "No, Job, you are sinning because you are suffering." You see the difference?

    04:41-04:52

    In other words, the three friends said, "Job, it's your sin that led to your suffering." But we know, because we got a peek behind the curtain, we know that's not true.

    04:53-04:57

    But Elihu comes along and goes, "No, here's the problem, Job.

    04:57-05:02

    You are sinfully responding to the suffering that you're experiencing.

    05:04-05:10

    It's sort of like, imagine you have a bucket, okay?

    05:10-05:17

    And in this bucket, there's like a handful of dirt, but it's filled with water.

    05:18-05:31

    Now, if that bucket was just sitting up here, undisturbed, and you walked by and looked at the bucket, you would think that the water was pure, right?

    05:31-05:32

    You would think the water was clean.

    05:34-05:44

    But if you picked up that bucket and gave it a little shake, you would agitate that dirt and it would come to the top and you'd be like, oh no, no, no, there's dirt in that bucket.

    05:47-05:54

    And see, that's what Elihu comes along and is saying to Job, because he's saying your heart is like that bucket.

    05:56-06:02

    When things are good, when things are calm in our lives, we look pretty clean.

    06:03-06:17

    But it's when we get agitated, when we experience the stress of suffering, that has a way of kicking the dirt up and revealing that there's still some stuff in our heart that we need to deal with.

    06:17-06:20

    That's Elihu's point in these chapters.

    06:22-06:23

    So let's look at verse one.

    06:24-06:28

    It says in chapter 32, and keep your Bibles open.

    06:28-06:32

    We're gonna be bouncing, we're not gonna cover all these verses, but we're going to cover several of them.

    06:32-06:33

    So keep your Bibles open.

    06:33-06:35

    We're gonna be jumping around, all right?

    06:36-06:45

    It says, "So these three men ceased to answer Job because he was righteous in his own eyes." So a couple of big problems here.

    06:46-06:50

    After everything that was discussed in chapters three through 31, we have two problems.

    06:50-06:53

    After all of that, they got nowhere.

    06:55-07:01

    And the other problem is after all of that, Job was still self-righteous.

    07:03-07:15

    Look at verse two, it says, "Then Elihu, the son of Barakal, the Buzite of the family of Rom, burned with anger." So we're gonna, we meet Elihu here.

    07:16-07:17

    Like, who's he?

    07:18-07:25

    Well, look at verse two, it says, "He burned with anger at Job because he justified himself rather than God.

    07:25-07:34

    He burned with anger also at Job's three friends because they had found no answer, although they had declared Job to be in the wrong.

    07:35-07:36

    So who is Elihu?

    07:36-07:38

    Well, apparently he's an angry little fella.

    07:41-07:42

    Just angry at everything.

    07:43-07:45

    What are you so angry about, Elihu?

    07:48-07:50

    Because of the problem stated in verse one.

    07:51-07:53

    Because after all that talk, you got nowhere.

    07:53-07:56

    Because Job, you're still self-righteous in your own eyes.

    07:56-07:57

    Look at verse four.

    07:57-08:05

    Now, Elihu had wanted to speak to Job because they were older than he.

    08:06-08:10

    Or I'm sorry, he had waited to speak to Job because they were older than he.

    08:10-08:16

    And when Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, he burned with anger.

    08:16-08:17

    Well, we're not surprised about that.

    08:19-08:28

    So Elihu was basically, he's like, look, you guys are older than me, so I respectfully waited and didn't interrupt you.

    08:30-08:34

    But now I have to say some things because there has to be an answer for Job.

    08:38-08:44

    And what you have in chapters 32 through 37 from Elihu, you have four speeches from him.

    08:46-08:50

    There's no back and forth, there's no interrupting, There's no objections.

    08:51-08:57

    Elihu gives compelling rebukes that set the stage for the Lord when he finally speaks to Job.

    09:00-09:09

    Now, I could spend a year just on these chapters, and I encourage you to go back and read them because there is so much amazing content in here.

    09:11-09:19

    But like Pastor Taylor last week, really what I want you to do is learn something from the way that Job is being approached.

    09:24-09:32

    There's a lot of people in this church that are suffering right now that I'm aware of.

    09:34-09:43

    And I am confident that there are many more people in this church that are suffering, and I have no idea that they even are.

    09:44-09:46

    And that means, my friends, it's up to you.

    09:47-09:49

    Friends, it's up to you.

    09:49-09:55

    Small group, it's up to you to comfort these people around you that are suffering.

    09:56-10:14

    So the question on the table today is, how do we help sufferers who are either angry at God because of their suffering, and there's no shortage of those people, or they're tempted to get angry with God because of their suffering.

    10:16-10:18

    So Elihu did a lot of things right.

    10:19-10:21

    And I just wanna go through these verses.

    10:21-10:27

    We're gonna fly through, pull out some verses, get a big overview, but I encourage you to read these in depth.

    10:27-10:33

    But on your outline, how to help sufferers who are in a bad place, all right?

    10:35-10:36

    Number one, write this down.

    10:36-10:41

    This is where it has to start, it has to continue, it has to end.

    10:41-10:44

    Number one, deal in truth.

    10:46-10:48

    You have to deal in truth.

    10:48-10:49

    Like, well, what do you mean by that?

    10:50-11:00

    Well, with these four points on your outline, I'm gonna give you the principle, and then I'm going to show you a couple very practical tips on how to carry out that principle, okay?

    11:00-11:01

    That's kind of how this outline is structured.

    11:01-11:03

    So number one, deal in truth.

    11:03-11:04

    Like, what do you mean?

    11:04-11:08

    First of all, letter A, deal in God's word, not man's.

    11:11-11:13

    Look at verses six through eight.

    11:14-11:22

    It says, "And Elihu, the son of Barakul, the Buzite answered and said, "I am young in years and you are aged.

    11:23-11:25

    "Therefore I was timid and afraid "to declare my opinion to you.

    11:26-11:30

    "I said, let days speak and many years teach wisdom.

    11:31-11:45

    "But it is the spirit in man, "the breath of the Almighty that makes him understand." In other words, what Elihu was saying is you got to deal in God's word, not man's word.

    11:47-11:48

    This is where it has to start.

    11:48-11:52

    When you're counseling somebody who's suffering, it has to start here.

    11:52-11:54

    What is your source of authority?

    11:57-12:01

    Elihu was saying, you know what, for you guys, you know what your source of authority is?

    12:01-12:03

    Your age, your experience.

    12:03-12:04

    You're like, well, we've been around, Job.

    12:04-12:05

    We know what's going on.

    12:05-12:08

    Let us tell you, we know some things because of our age.

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    Elihu says, "No, no, no, no.

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    "For me, my source of authority is what does God say?" Jump down, look at verse 15.

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    He says about the three stooges, the three amigos, he says, three blind mice, whatever you wanna call them, he says, "They are dismayed.

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    "They answer no more.

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    "They have not a word to say." Elihu's saying, "You guys have nothing to offer Job.

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    All your counsel got nowhere.

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    I do a lot of counseling as a pastor.

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    And do you know who are the hardest people to counsel?

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    You know, the hardest people to counsel are people who are also seeing a secular therapist.

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    That's what the three stooges were to Job.

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    They were like three secular therapists.

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    But they're the hardest people to counsel.

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    I remember a couple of years back, I'm counseling a couple and the woman was also seeing a secular therapist at the time.

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    And I'm trying to counsel him from the word of God.

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    And she says, "You know what, Pastor Jeff?

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    "My therapist told me that I just need to learn "how to forgive myself." And I said, "With all due respect, that's not a thing." And her eyes got huge.

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    She goes, "It's not?" I said, "You need forgiveness from God," which he provided through Jesus Christ.

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    "You need forgiveness from any others that you wronged and you need to make restitution to.

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    But what is this idea of I need to forgive myself?

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    It's not a thing." Look down at verse 21.

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    Elihu goes on, he goes, "I will not show partiality to any man or use flattery toward any person.

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    And all I hear is saying, "Look, Job, I'm gonna say some things, "but I'm not going to fall into the trap "that many bad counselors fall into." And that's people pleasing.

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    Do you see that?

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    Showing partiality, using flattery.

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    That's a lot of really bad counseling.

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    And you see that in a lot of secular counseling.

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    Now, I'm not saying every secular therapist the devil, I'm not saying that, just a lot of them.

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    But it's this idea, you go to see this therapist, and usually it's because you are like Job, you're sinfully responding to suffering, and the therapist tells you, "Look, it's not your fault.

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    "It's not your fault, it's your dad's fault, "it's your boss's fault, it's your cat's fault, that's somebody's fault, but it's not your fault.

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    That'll be $200.

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    Look, I don't mean this harshly, but we're dealing in truth.

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    At some point, you have to take responsibility for how you're responding to what's happening to you.

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    So forget the psychobabble nonsense.

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    You've got to get to where Elihu got, and that is, "What does God say?" Letter B, how do we deal in truth?

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    This is also key.

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    Deal with what is said, not what you suppose.

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    That's something else Elihu did very well.

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    Deal with what is said, not what you suppose.

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    Look at chapter 3, look at verses 8 through 11 in chapter 3 where he talks about this.

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    Elihu says, "Surely," he's talking to Job, "Surely you have spoken in my ears, and I have heard the sound of your words.

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    You say," you see what he's doing?

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    He says, "You say, 'I am pure without transgressions.

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    I am clean.

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    There is no iniquity in me.

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    Behold, he finds occasions against me.

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    He counts me as his enemy.

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    He puts my feet in the stalks and watches all my paths." So Elihu here summarizes Job's position, but I want you to see very clearly what he did was Elihu addressed Job's words.

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    Elihu didn't blindly accuse Job like the three stooges did.

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    Elihu says, "Job, look, my response is based on what you said.

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    "And what you said," this is a paraphrase, "but Job, what you're saying is, look, I'm sinless "and God's out to get me "and he won't tell me what his problem is with me.

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    "That's what you said, Job.

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    "That's what I'm going to address." Do you see the difference?

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    That's why when people come to me for counseling, I take a lot of notes.

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    I'm constantly writing things down.

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    Why?

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    Because I don't wanna jump to some wild conclusion.

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    I want to address what they actually say.

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    That's why I wanna sit down with them and say, okay, I need some clarification here.

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    Now, earlier you said this by saying that, did you mean, or earlier you made this statement, can you explain to me exactly what you meant by that statement?

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    You see, I'm not dealing with sins that I'm supposing they might have had.

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    Like Elihu, I need to deal with the sins that I'm witnessing.

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    We're dealing in truth.

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    That's what Elihu did.

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    He addressed what Job said.

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    Oh, and by the way, do you know what he said about what Job said?

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    Elihu goes, "Job, you said God is silent.

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    "You're wrong about that.

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    "God does speak." You can read verses 14 through 30.

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    We're not gonna do that right now.

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    But Elihu says, "God does speak." And Job, one of the ways that God speaks is through suffering.

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    Like Job, like Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar, In our church, we fall into the same wrong mindset that we think suffering, anytime we suffer, it's either God's punishing us for something or God has abandoned us.

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    And it's not true.

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    And in these verses, you'll see Elihu says, "You know what, Job, sometimes God allows suffering "in your life in order to prevent pride." Ask Paul about that, 2 Corinthians 12.

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    Elihu says, "You know what, Job?

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    "Sometimes God allows suffering "because somehow He uses that to rescue you." He says that in verse 18.

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    But the big picture here is this.

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    Elihu was concerned that God was being misrepresented.

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    All these people saying, "All these things were God." He goes, "No, that's not who God is, "and that's not who He works, "and I'm not gonna sit here and listen "to God being misrepresented.

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    "I'm not listening to that.

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    I'm gonna correct that.

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    So I encourage you when you're encountering somebody who is suffering, and they're angry, they're blaming God, take a page from Elihu.

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    Like, what does God say about that?

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    And don't deal with your assumptions about why you think they might be suffering, deal with the facts on how they're responding to it.

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    All right, so how to help sufferers who are in a bad place.

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    Number one, you gotta deal in truth.

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    Number two, write this down, address their conduct.

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    Address their conduct.

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    That's chapter 34.

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    Address their conduct, what do I mean by that?

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    Don't dismiss their feelings.

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    We've talked about that before.

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    So many times people say to me, well, Pastor Jeff, I feel like this, but I know what's wrong to feel like that.

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    Feelings aren't right or wrong.

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    Feelings are feelings.

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    You can't help how you feel about something.

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    The question is, what are you thinking that's making you feel that way?

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    But feelings aren't right or wrong.

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    So don't dismiss their feelings.

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    Also, don't assume motives.

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    That's, when the Bible says don't judge, that's what it's talking about, by the way.

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    God says don't assume people's motives.

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    What we are called to do, what we are commanded to do, and really the only thing we can do, is address conduct, actions, attitudes, and like Elihu with Job, addressing words.

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    If someone's responding poorly to suffering, if somebody is sinning in the way they're responding to suffering, you need to remind them how God's people act.

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    This is not how God's people act.

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    They're like, well, hang on, Pastor Jeff, hang on.

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    What if the person that I'm trying to help, who is sinfully responding to suffering, what if that person's not a Christian?

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    You're like, what should I tell them then?

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    What should you tell somebody who's not a Christian?

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    Any ideas?

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    Yeah, how about that Randy? How to become one?

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    How about share the gospel with them?

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    Because here's the thing, no amount of biblical counsel you give them is going to do any good because the things of God are spiritually discerned.

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    You can't hold non-Christians to a biblical standard because they don't have the knowledge and they don't have the tools to carry it out.

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    They don't have the Holy Spirit.

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    So when somebody comes to me for counseling and they're not a Christian, there's only one thing that I talk to them about.

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    How to come into a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

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    And until we get there, I've told people, I'm like, I can't help you until you get there.

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    But if you're dealing with a Christian, you need to lovingly, lovingly point out their sin and lovingly show them that they know better.

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    You're like, well, how do we do that?

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    Well, let's see what Elihu did.

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    Letter A, point out worldly behavior.

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    Point out worldly behavior.

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    Look at verses seven through nine, where are we?

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    Chapter 34.

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    Point out worldly behavior.

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    If you're dealing with a Christian, if you're dealing with somebody that says they know God, but they're not acting like it, Look, you have to lovingly point that out.

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    Look at verses seven through nine.

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    He says, Elihu says, "What man is like Job, "who drinks up scoffing like water, "who travels in company with evildoers "and walks with wicked men?

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    "For he has said, 'It profits a man nothing "'that he should take delight in God.'" Elihu says, "Job, you're making mockery of God your diet.

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    "You are just drinking that up.

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    "You're listening," he says, "Job, you're listening to worldly people "and you're adopting their mindsets." And Elihu here is saying, "Job, you're talking like somebody that doesn't know God." Job is so, the book of Job is so interesting to read Because the first couple chapters, remember the first couple chapters?

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    He suffered worse than just about anybody.

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    And your heart kind of breaks for the guy.

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    But then you get to these long stretches where he talks about God so irreverently.

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    It's just that some of the things he says quite frankly, pretty disgusting.

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    But what I'll allow you here is saying, "Job, hey, hey, hey, you don't get a pass, dude.

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    "Suffering doesn't allow you to be irreverent towards God." So you need to knock that mentality off now.

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    You don't get a pass to be rude towards your God.

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    So point out the worldly behavior, but you've got to do this, letter B, point the way forward.

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    Point the way forward.

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    Yes, when somebody comes to you and they're sinfully responding to self-suffering, yes, the first thing you need to do is listen.

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    Yes, absolutely, you need to care.

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    But you have to lovingly show them the path forward.

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    It's not enough to just identify sinful behavior.

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    You know, if somebody is responding to their suffering in a sinful way and they come to you and you're like, "Hey, you're wrong," and thinking about God like that and talking to God like that, and then you're done, you've only done half your job.

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    You have to walk them through what repentance looks like.

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    Okay?

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    And that's exactly what Elihu did.

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    Look at verses 31 and 32.

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    He says, "For as anyone said to God, 'I have borne punishment.

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    I will not offend anymore.

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    Teach me what I do not see.

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    If I have done iniquity, I will do it no more.'" "verses give you the ingredients for repentance." That's what Elihu did.

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    He goes, "Look, Job, the first thing you need to do "is say, you know, I've sinned.

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    "I have offended a holy God." Has to start there.

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    He goes, "Second, show me my blind spots." That's repentance.

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    "God, show me, please, if I have blind spots, "if I'm sinning and I don't even realize it, "you need to call me out on that.

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    "Show me my blind spots." And the third ingredient of repentance he gives, He goes, "I'll stop.

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    "I'm gonna stop doing the thing that dishonors God." Help them to replace their sin with a godly behavior.

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    That's what repentance looks like scripturally.

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    Pray with them, check in on them, send them a text.

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    How are we doing?

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    Did you think some more about what we talked about?

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    But remind them, look, when we're talking about suffering, We can't change the past.

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    And I so badly wish that I could undo the suffering that some of you have experienced.

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    I wish I could do that.

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    I wish I could just take that away from you.

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    I can't do that.

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    There's only one thing that we can do when we suffer, and that's move forward in a Christ-honoring way.

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    It's all we can do.

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    Thirdly, how do you counsel somebody who is sinfully responding to suffering?

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    They're in a bad place.

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    The third thing you need to do is ask about their walk with God.

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    Ask about their walk with God.

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    How's your walk with God right now?

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    You see, Job worshiped God because God is worthy of worship, and Job proved that back when.

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    And you get to this point in Job and you see that his suffering kind of sidelined his walk.

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    Look at chapter 35, excuse me.

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    Look at verse 3.

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    He says, "Job, you ask, what advantage have I?

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    How am I better off than if I had sinned?" Elihu's saying, "Job, you asked, why be good?

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    If I'm gonna suffer anyways, if I'm gonna suffer as if I've sinned and God's punishing me, then why bother being good?

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    Why bother trying if I'm just gonna suffer anyways?

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    Ask him about their walk with God.

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    Ask what?

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    Well, according to Elihu, here's a good place to start.

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    Ask letter A, are you maturely responding to suffering?

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    Are you maturely responding to suffering?

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    Look at verse five.

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    I love these verses.

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    He says, "Look at the heavens and sea, "And behold the clouds which are higher than you.

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    "If you have sinned, what do you accomplish against him?" Meaning against God.

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    He goes, "And if your transgressions are multiplied, "what do you do to him?

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    "If you are righteous, what do you give to him?

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    "Or what does he receive from your hand?" Do you see what he's saying?

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    First of all, let me tell you what he's not saying.

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    He's not saying, "Oh, you know what, Job?

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    "The way we live doesn't really matter." He's not saying that.

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    What he is saying is, "Look, Job, "you get no leverage with God by the way you act.

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    "Understand that." What he's saying is, "Your sin is not going to damage God." And the other side of the coin, Job, Your righteousness is not going to put God in your debt.

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    Elihu here is calling Job out on his immaturity.

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    Basically saying, "Oh, you think you're gonna teach God "a lesson by this attitude, really?" You're like, "Who does that?" Like, a lot of people do that.

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    that you're suffering, and somehow in your mind, you think you're gonna teach God a lesson.

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    I'll show him, and you're gonna sin.

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    All right, fine, God, you're gonna allow me to suffer?

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    I'm just gonna start drinking again.

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    Oh, okay, God, you're gonna allow me to suffer?

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    Well, I'm gonna go back to that lustful relationship I was involved with that I repented from, but I'm just, I'm gonna call her up again If you're just going to allow me to suffer this way, God, your way, your way didn't get me anywhere.

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    So I'm going to do things my way.

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    I'll show you.

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    It's as if as if God is in heaven responding to that crying in a corner.

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    Oh, no.

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    What am I going to do?

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    He's sending.

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    Cancel Christmas.

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    What am I going to do?

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    I can't believe he's sinning.

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    You see how immature that is?

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    Fine, God, I'm just going to...

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    God doesn't need to change.

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    You and I need to change.

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    Has God disappointed you?

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    I'm not going to ask for a show of hands.

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    Has God ever disappointed you?

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    Well, I need to remind you that He's not a vending machine.

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    He is an infinitely wise and loving Father.

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    And He's going to see to it that your suffering is ultimately going to be a blessing.

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    And if you're mature, you're going to receive it that way.

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    That's why Elihu calls out this immature mindset.

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    Ask about their walk with God, let her be.

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    This is so huge.

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    This is so huge.

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    Look, if you tuned out at all at any point, tune back in.

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    Because concerning your walk with God and your suffering, this hits us all right between the eyes, letter B. Are you crying about God or are you crying to God?

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    Look at verse 13.

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    He says, "Surely God does not hear an empty cry, nor does the Almighty regard it." You read the context, you get what he's saying.

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    If you read the context here, what Elihu was saying is, "Look, Joe, hey, hey, people are suffering everywhere, have you noticed?

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    Everybody's suffering with something." The problem is people aren't crying out to God in prayer.

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    The problem is people are just crying.

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    It's like this.

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    Imagine there's this dad, He's got a little eight -year-old son that goes, "Dad, I want a social media account." And dad says, "Son, no.

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    "No, you're not getting a social media account." Now, parents, get this.

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    It can be a dangerous place for kids.

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    There's a lot of predators online.

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    And it can be used as a means of trafficking.

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    And dad doesn't want to expose his eight-year-old son to this.

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    Dad knows he's too young, he's too immature, and he's too vulnerable.

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    So no, you're not having a social media account, son.

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    So what does the eight-year-old do?

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    He goes to his friends.

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    Dad won't let me have a social media account.

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    I don't understand why.

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    Dad won't let me have a social media account.

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    I'm so mad at my dad.

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    I want this social...

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    I say social media, what are we talking about here?

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    What's the popular one now?

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    What's the popular social media account?

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    I'm so proud of you for not knowing.

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    Facebook, TikToks or whatever, and your Instagrammas or whatever it's called.

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    But the kid's like with his friends, and he's like, "Dad, Dad's so mean.

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    "Dad won't let me have a TikTok account.

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    "I can't believe it, I'm so mad.

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    I just, I don't know why dad's doing this to me.

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    My dad's so mean.

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    That was Job.

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    Do you think, like, you could grab that kid for a second and hey, did you talk to your dad about why?

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    At any point in your bellyaching to your friends, did you ever think to go to your dad and say, dad, you don't want me to have a social media account, will you tell me why?

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    You don't think the dad would sit down and say, "Son, let me explain some things to you.

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    "There are a lot of really dangerous people out there, "and I love you so much, "and it's my job to protect you right now." So the answer's no.

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    Someday later, yes, but right now you're too young.

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    You don't think dad would have explained that?

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    But the kid never went to dad asking because the kid was too busy bellyaching.

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    And church, we are just like that.

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    We are just like that.

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    Have you tried, sufferer, with whatever you're suffering with, have you tried really asking God about it?

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    Or have you just been complaining to your friends about it?

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    Whatever suffering you're going through right now, I just want to ask you, who have you been talking to about it?

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    Honestly, have you spent more time talking to God about it, or have you spent more time complaining to people about it?

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    Which one?

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    That's what Elihu's pointing out here.

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    Do you think maybe you'd get some answers if you said, "You know what?

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    I'm not talking to anybody about this but God, and I'm going to enter a season of fasting and prayer and intentionally going after God and His Word.

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    I'm gonna enter a season where I'm seeking nothing but God's face and asking Him why I'm enduring this and seeking comfort to endure this.

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    Do you think maybe you'd be in a better place spiritually if you did that?

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    I think so.

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    And finally, number four.

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    How do I, what's the heading on the outline?

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    I can't even remember.

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    I think I wrote the thing.

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    Oh, okay, how to help sufferers rid of bad plays.

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    It's been a long 49 years.

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    How to help sufferers rid of bad plays.

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    Number four, leave room for mystery.

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    Leave room for mystery.

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    This is something else that Elihu was so great about.

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    This is in chapters 36 and 37.

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    Two things here.

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    Letter A, we must be okay with not knowing everything.

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    Look at verse two.

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    Elihu says, "Bear with me a little while "and I will show you." This is chapter 36, verse two.

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    Did I say that?

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    Bear with me a little, and I will show you.

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    I have yet something to say on God's behalf.

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    You're like, well, what is it that he wants to say on God's behalf?

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    Well, look down at verse 26.

    39:52-39:54

    It's a theme, it's a theme.

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    Look at verse 26, he says, "Behold, God is great, "and we know him not.

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    "The number of his years is unsearchable, It's unsearchable.

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    Jump to chapter 37, verse five.

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    There's a theme.

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    God thunders wondrously with his voice.

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    He does great things that we cannot comprehend.

    40:16-40:19

    There's a theme, look down at chapter 37, verse 23.

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    The Almighty, we cannot find him.

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    He is great in power, justice, and abundant righteousness.

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    He will not violate.

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    Do you see what he's saying over and over?

    40:29-40:30

    He keeps going back to this.

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    goes, "Hey, hey Job, God is way bigger "than we can understand." And here's the truth, my friends.

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    Even if, even if God did explain everything to you, you wouldn't be able to process it.

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    You know what I mean?

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    It's sort of like friends I have in the church that do something computer for a living.

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    You know, those of you guys that your job has something to do with computers.

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    I'm just gonna be honest with you.

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    I'll publicly confess this now.

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    Even when you explain to me what you do, I have no idea what you do.

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    It's happened to me so many times.

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    I'm like, hey, tell me what your work day looks like.

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    And one of these computer guys is telling me, and she's like, whew.

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    I'm like, wow, I went to Bible college because I only had to buy one book.

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    Like that thing that you got going on, I have no idea what you're saying, was like what do you do?

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    And then they tell me, I'm like, I'm sorry, was that English?

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    Like what does that even mean?

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    And you know God's like that.

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    Even if God could explain to you "Everything that's going on, "why he's allowing this suffering in your life." I'm not sure that we'd be able to process that.

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    I can't explain why God is allowing you to suffer right now any more than my dog could explain why we go to the vet.

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    But I get the same advice for you as I do for the dog.

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    Just be okay with not knowing everything, all right?

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    How about you trust the one in charge, who loves you and promised to take care of you?

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    We must be okay with not knowing everything.

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    One more.

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    Letter B, we must act on what we do know.

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    Leave room for mystery, yes, but, but, but, we must act on what we do know.

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    Look at chapter 36, verse five, he says, Behold, God is mighty and does not despise any.

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    He is mighty in strength of understanding.

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    Jump down to verse 10.

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    He opens their ears to instruction and commands that they return from iniquity.

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    A lot of you here is saying, here's some things we do know, Job.

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    God is powerful.

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    He loves you.

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    He knows everything.

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    He wants to teach you some things and he wants you to turn from your sin.

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    Do you understand that?

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    "Yeah, yeah, we understand that.

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    "Okay, well that means I can act on that." In chapter 36, we're not gonna read these verses, but chapter 36, verses 29 through 33, Elihu talks about a thunderstorm.

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    And he says, "Thunderstorms bring destruction "and they bring blessing at the same time." And you think about it, if you've ever sat and watch the storm, it looks out of control, doesn't it?

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    The wind, the lightning, the heavy rain, it looks like everything's out of control.

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    But it's that storm that brings growth.

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    So let me ask you, is it possible that something can look out of control, but still accomplish a purpose?

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    Remember way back in chapter one when Job lost his wealth, when Job lost his children, we saw that Job responded to that by saying, "God doesn't do anything empty." Job said, "God has a purpose for everything." Is it possible that God knows something you don't?

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    And the suffering that He is allowing into your life right now is to accomplish a purpose that couldn't be accomplished any other way.

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    Is that possible?

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    Once again, we have to think of the chaos of the cross, don't we?

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    See, that's an advantage we have.

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    The Job, the three stooges, and Elihu, they didn't have this.

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    But we live on the other side of history, of the cross of Jesus Christ.

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    That's the ultimate example of something that looked like chaos that had a mighty purpose.

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    Here's the sinless, perfect Son of God who was just teaching people about righteousness, about heaven, about how to sincerely follow the Lord.

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    And they trumped up a bunch of bogus charges so that they could publicly humiliate him and beat him and execute him.

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    And the disciples, they scattered, all of them, but John, they scattered.

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    And I imagine if we were standing at the foot of the cross on that day Christ was crucified, we would be so tempted to think, this is such an out of control mess.

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    How could God possibly allow this to happen?

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    But once again, we have to land here, my friends, just because I don't understand right this moment what God's doing, doesn't mean that God is unjust.

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    I'd like you to bow your heads as the worship team makes their way back forward.

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    And we're going to worship.

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    Bow your heads.

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    You're going to be encountering somebody probably today, if not sometime in the next couple of days that is experiencing suffering and they are in a bad place.

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    Pastor Taylor showed us last week, there's a lot of ungodly ways that we could handle that.

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    But Elihu in these chapters shows us there is a way that you can exalt Jesus Christ in a way that you counsel people.

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    The Father in heaven, I wanna pray for those right now.

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    who are going to have audience with somebody who is suffering.

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    And I thank you God.

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    Elihu's counsel wasn't perfect.

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    There ever only was one perfect person on this planet.

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    That was you in the flesh.

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    But Elihu really does teach us a lot of amazing principles that we need to get back to.

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    if we're going to exalt you in the way that we encourage others.

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    So Father, we thank you that you are powerful.

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    Father, we thank you that your ways are unsearchable.

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    And I pray, Father, you would give us hearts of faith that are able to hold onto that when nothing else makes sense.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Covering
Job 32-37

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. Read Job 32:1-5. Why was Elihu so angry? What was the root cause of his anger?

  3. Read Job 32:21-22. How do people show partiality and use flattery when they counsel? Why did Elihu refuse to do this?

  4. Read Job 34:7-9. How can you point out someone’s sinful behavior in a straightforward, but tactful, way?

  5. Read Job 36:26, 37:5, and 37:23. How would you communicate the truth that “we can’t understand everything God is doing” in an effective way to someone who is hurting?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Don’t Be THAT Guy

Introduction:

How to Figure Out if You're Being THAT Guy:

  1. Do You Fail to Recognize that You Have Blind spots ?

    Job 42:7 - "My anger burns against you and against your two friends, for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has."

    Job 42:8 - "For you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has."

    1. By assuming God's Plan and People's Motives .

      Read more: Job 5:27, Job 15:9-10, Job 13:7

      1 Samuel 16:7 - "For the LORD sees not as man sees; man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart."

    2. By having Unbiblical and Unhelpful Convictions.

      Read more Job 4:7-9, Job 8:4

      Job 11:6 - "Know then that God exacts of you less than your guilt deserves."

      Job 4:7 - "Remember: who that was innocent ever perished? Or where were the upright cut off?"

      2 Corinthians 5:21 - For our sake He made Him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

      1 John 3:5 - You know that He appeared in order to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin.

      1 Peter 3:18 - For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God.

  2. Do You Mean Well but Fail to Cmfort Well .
    1. By talking Way Too Much .

      Read more: Job 16:2-3, Job 13:5

    2. By saying the Wrong Thing at the Wrong Time.
    3. By saying the Right Thing in the Wrong Way.

      Read more Job 6:14

      Isaiah 42:2-3 - He will not cry aloud or lift up His voice or make it heard in the street; a bruised reed He will not break, and a faintly burning wick He will not quench.

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  • 01:12-01:15

    All right, so you can turn your Bibles to the book of Job chapter 3.

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    Chapter 3.

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    You know, growing up, my friends and I would pour over the Guinness Book of World Records in the school library.

    01:23-01:26

    Did anybody else love reading those massive books?

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    Very few of you.

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    Very few of you are weird like me.

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    We would be amazed by the sometimes cool and gross accomplishments that people could do.

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    The amazing things that people were capable of.

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    and we daydreamed of how we could get into the Guinness Book of World Records.

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    Well, it took me 34 years, I'm about to break a record.

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    I'm about to make harvest and personal history this morning, and you're all here to witness it.

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    Aren't you so excited?

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    All right, typically, we preach several verses, maybe even a chapter if we're feeling brave, but my assigned task this morning is to cover 29 chapters in the book of Job as we continue our latest series, Making Sense of Suffering.

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    I know the Steelers are playing at 1 p.m.

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    I really hope you weren't planning on watching that because we're gonna be really busy.

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    You better crack your knuckles and do your stretches 'cause we're about to get after it.

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    All right, before you start getting claustrophobic and looking for the nearest exit, I cannot possibly cover 724 verses in one sermon.

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    I mean, I can try it if you want me to, but I'm probably gonna do the overview aspect instead.

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    Who wants the overview sermon instead of the verse-by-verse sermon?

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    I don't know, some people seem to want the verse-by-verse sermon.

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    Well, I didn't prepare for that.

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    I wasn't expecting that answer, so we're gonna go with the overview approach instead.

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    So let's stop to ask God for his help.

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    Please pray for me that I will faithfully proclaim the truth of God's word, and I will pray for you that you faithfully receive and submit the truth of God's word.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father, we come to you and we thank you once again for this awesome opportunity to gather as your people, to worship you and to hear your word.

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    Father, I pray that you would preach a much better sermon this morning in our hearts than I ever could with my mouth.

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    Lord, I pray that you would comfort us, you would challenge us, Lord, you would encourage us and you would build us up.

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    We thank you that you watch over your word to perform it and that when your word goes out, it will accomplish the purpose for which you sent it.

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    We thank you in advance for what you are going to do, and we ask all these things in the mighty name of Jesus Christ, amen.

    03:44-03:48

    So last week, we left Job at his lowest moment.

    03:49-03:59

    Everything has been taken away from him, and he is left in the town dump, scratching himself with pottery as he is covered in sores.

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    At the end of chapter two, Job's three friends, Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar, show up on the scene to comfort their suffering friend.

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    And we're told that they sit with him for a week straight in silence, not saying a single word.

    04:16-04:17

    That's a great decision.

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    They weep loudly, they cover themselves with dust, and they rip their clothes.

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    Job then breaks the ice by opening up about the deep despair that he is experiencing on the inside.

    04:32-04:41

    And then the seven day wisdom streak comes to a crashing halt as these guys open up their mouths to give their takes on Job's suffering.

    04:42-04:54

    The main reason we are covering such a large chunk of chapters in one sermon is due to the fact that most of these verses are filled with unhelpful advice from Job's three friends.

    04:55-05:01

    And you may be thinking, how can we be so sure that their advice is unhelpful?

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    Well, they do say some true and right things, but very often they share half truths.

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    And we have to understand that half truths are whole lies.

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    But we can be 100% certain this morning that their advice is unhelpful because the Bible tells us so.

    05:18-05:21

    I love it when God makes it so easy for us.

    05:21-05:30

    Quick spoiler, as we jump ahead in the story for a minute, God gives Eliphaz a Dutch uncle talk at the very end of Job in chapter 42, verse seven.

    05:30-05:43

    He says, "My anger burns against you "and against your two friends, "for you have not spoken to me what is right "as my servant Job has." Could God be any clearer that these guys messed up big time?

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    Instead of helping their hurting friend, they pour salt into his wounds.

    05:49-05:58

    And God then commands these bad friends to go and make a burnt offering for their sinful words and to have Job pray for them.

    05:59-06:03

    And God then once again repeats why they must repent in verse eight.

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    For you have not spoken of me what is right as my servant Job has.

    06:10-06:13

    God hates it when you take words out of his mouth.

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    God hates it when you put words into his mouth.

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    God is not pleased when you give bad counsel when you cause a sufferer to experience even more suffering.

    06:28-06:30

    Here's another preaching verse for me this morning.

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    I'm not really gonna tell you what to do.

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    And before you start getting really excited saying, oh, this is gonna be a nice, comfortable, fluffy message, well, remember, we're in the book of Job, so light and fluffy isn't really listed on the menu.

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    Sure, I promise I'm not really gonna tell you what to do this morning.

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    Instead, we're gonna focus on what you should never do.

    06:49-07:00

    Pastor Jeff's gonna pick up the baton for me next week we're gonna focus on the positive command of do this, but this morning we're gonna zero in on the negative command of don't do that.

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    When it comes to helping sufferers, I don't want you to be like Job's friends.

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    You don't wanna be that guy or that girl who makes things worse and not better for those that you love who are struggling.

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    But the problem is none of us this morning think or that guy, or that gal, as my dad would say.

    07:24-07:27

    We all think that we're doing just fine in this area of life.

    07:27-07:35

    We all think we're super comforting, super understanding, really loving, Taylor, everybody else in this room probably needs to hear it, but I'm doing great.

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    Are you sure about that?

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    Is it possible that you're misjudging your own heart and giving yourself way too much credit?

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    Is it possible that you need more help with helping than you realize?

    07:54-08:02

    So for the rest of this message, please choose to be brutally honest with yourself as you figure out if you're being that guy or that girl.

    08:04-08:07

    So our outline for this morning, how to figure out if you're being that guy.

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    And the first question we're gonna ask is, do you fail to recognize that you have blind spots?

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    Do you fail to recognize that you have blind spots?

    08:20-08:24

    And these 29 chapters follow a very similar pattern.

    08:24-08:27

    There are three cycles of heated debate and discussion.

    08:28-08:37

    As I mentioned already, Job kicks off the conversation by popping the hood and showing his friends what he is feeling on the inside.

    08:37-08:40

    He is so down the dumps that he doesn't curse God.

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    Job never does that.

    08:43-08:45

    He curses the day he was born.

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    Just listen to some of what he has to say in chapter three, verse 11 through 16.

    08:52-08:57

    Job says, "Why did I not die at birth, "come out from the womb and expire?

    08:57-09:01

    "Why did the knees receive me, "or why the breasts that I should nurse?

    09:01-09:03

    "For then I would have lain down and been quiet.

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    "I would have slept, then I would have been at rest, "with kings and counselors of the earth, "who rebuilt ruins for themselves, "or with princes who had gold, who filled their houses with silver, or why was I not as a hidden stillborn child as infants who never see the light?

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    The word depression doesn't even seem to touch what Job is experiencing here.

    09:27-09:31

    He is in this dark pit, and he can't see any light whatsoever.

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    And then Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar, or the three stooges, as I like to call them, pile on and make matters even worse by giving long speeches to explain why they think Job's life has exploded into a million tiny pieces.

    09:49-09:59

    And after each speech, Job responds to what they had to say until in chapter 26 where he's fed up and he gives himself a six chapter long defense of himself.

    09:59-10:04

    He puts a bow on the entire conversation and shuts his friends up.

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    Because in Job's mind, he didn't do anything wrong.

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    to justify the horrible things that have happened to his family, his livelihood, and even his own body.

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    And as you read through the lengthy monologues of the three Stooges, it becomes crystal clear that these men fail to recognize two glaring blind spots in their own theology, their own hearts, and their counsel to Job.

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    So do you fail to recognize you have blind spots, letter A on your outline, by assuming God's plans and people's motives, by assuming God's plans and people's motives.

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    Have you ever met a know-it-all?

    10:51-10:55

    Don't nod or point to the person next to you if they're a know-it-all.

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    Maybe you're not shaking your head, thinking I don't know any know-it-alls.

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    I have some bad news for you.

    11:00-11:03

    You might be the know-it-all in your family or your friend group.

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    You can ask for confirmation later after the service is over.

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    We all know those people who are always ready to correct, who are always ready to insert their opinions, who always point out the flaws in everything.

    11:17-11:29

    When you say something, they respond by saying, "Actually, they're always ready to pounce "on what you have to say." And that is exactly how Job's three friends act in these chapters.

    11:29-11:35

    They assume that they fully understand the mind of God in the heart of Job.

    11:36-11:44

    At the end of his first lecture in chapter five, verse 27, Eliphaz lays out his credentials and explains why Job should listen to him.

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    He said, "Behold, this we have searched out.

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    "It is true, hear and know it for your good." Chapter 15, verses nine through 10, Eliphaz gets really fired up that Job isn't responding to their advice.

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    He says, "What do you know that we do not know?

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    "What do you understand that is not clear to us, "both the gray-haired and the aged are among you, "older than your father." In other words, Job, who are you to disagree with us?

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    We're older, we're wiser, just sit down, shut up, and listen.

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    You can't miss the air of arrogance there, right?

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    You can't miss the know-it-all attitude.

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    And this overconfidence leads them to take some wild swings at Job's character, which we'll talk about more in a few minutes.

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    This overconfidence leads them to think way too highly of themselves.

    12:45-12:51

    And without even realizing it, they put themselves in the place of God himself.

    12:53-12:56

    And Job calls this out in chapter 13, verse seven.

    12:57-13:03

    He says, "Will you speak falsely for God and speak deceitfully for him.

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    As I was meditating upon this verse this past week, I couldn't help but think back to 2005 and the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, when so many professing Christians put their foot completely in their mouths.

    13:18-13:32

    After this devastating hurricane hits New Orleans, all these radio preachers, all these televangelists say they know exactly why this hurricane hit New Orleans, because of the homosexual community that lives there.

    13:33-13:39

    In their minds, there is no arguing that this is exactly why this tragedy took place.

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    Listen, we spent two months recently walking through the Book of Micah and studying the reality that our country has been experiencing the consequences of rejecting God and pursuing evil.

    13:54-13:55

    There is no denying that.

    13:57-14:06

    But we cannot make unwise assumptions and unproven declarations about things that God has not clearly revealed in his word.

    14:08-14:14

    My main question to those people who definitively declared why Hurricane Katrina happened has always been the same.

    14:14-14:16

    How do you know that?

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    Who told you that?

    14:19-14:21

    Did God invite you to a secret council meeting in heaven?

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    Did he send you an angel, Graham?

    14:25-14:25

    No?

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    Then stop talking about it.

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    Stop saying things that God did not clearly say.

    14:31-14:35

    Stop puffing yourself up and start humbling yourself.

    14:37-14:39

    Stop being a know-it-all because no one likes a know-it-all.

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    But unfortunately, all of us struggle with being know-it-alls more than we care to admit.

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    We all need to do some soul searching this morning and do the hard work of asking others to point out our blind spots because we can't see them in and of ourselves.

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    You know, I sometimes can make wrong assumptions about why God chose to do something or why he didn't choose to do something.

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    As if I have the right, as if I have the intelligence to make such a judgment call.

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    I can sometimes judge the heart of someone else and assume their motives, Even though scripture makes it so clear in 1 Samuel 16, seven, the Lord sees not as man sees.

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    Man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.

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    When someone irritates me, when someone annoys me, I can think, oh, they're just trying to get, they're trying to get under my skin.

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    They don't respect me, and they're just trying to really just stick it to me.

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    a family member or a friend is moping around and I think to myself, they don't always wanna be the center of attention.

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    You know, they're probably not even struggling, they probably just want me to ask them what's wrong.

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    I'm just so tired of playing their games 'cause their heart is not in the right place.

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    I can judge someone else's heart, but fail to see that my heart is in trouble and should be my primary concern.

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    My desire to be right, my desire to justify myself, causes me to assume the worst of others and treat them very poorly.

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    Does anyone else ever assume the motives of other people?

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    Do you ever think that you know someone else's heart?

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    If we truly wanna help other people, especially those who are suffering, we must have a posture of humility and compassion and not a posture of pride and cold-heartedness.

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    You will not be able to help anyone with anything until you realize that you are not that smart.

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    You will not understand people and their problems until you grasp the truth that people and their problems are far more complex than they first appear.

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    The more mature you become, the more immature you should find yourself.

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    The more you learn, the more you should realize how little you actually know.

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    So do you fail to recognize you have blind spots?

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    Letter B on your outline, by having unbiblical and unhelpful convictions.

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    By having unbiblical and unhelpful convictions.

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    You know, during my time at Geneva College, I was one of the leaders of an on-campus ministry called Upper Room.

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    I'll never forget this one particular meeting, I had to lead a breakout prayer group.

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    and I asked everyone in the group to share their prayer requests.

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    And one guy said something that stopped me completely in my tracks and froze me up 'cause I didn't really know what to say.

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    He said, "You know, I've really had this burden "on my heart lately to pray for Satan.

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    "He is just so lost and headed for destruction.

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    "We should pray for his salvation." Pause the story for a minute.

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    Has anyone ever heard that prayer request before?

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    Okay, that was a first and a last for me.

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    You can see why at 20 years old I was like, I have no idea what to say here.

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    Okay, press play on the story again.

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    And so I finally gather my thoughts, after really not knowing what to say, and I told this guy as lovingly, yet gently as I could, that Satan is unredeemable, and we shouldn't waste our breath praying for that jerk.

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    He is God's enemy and that's not gonna change.

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    It was glaringly obvious that this guy wasn't taught very well.

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    And he had some very bad theology.

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    You know, bad thinking will always come out of your mouth in bad speaking.

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    His bad theology led him to give some very bad counsel to the prayer group.

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    I had to shot block it to protect everybody in the group.

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    And we see this happen with Job's friends.

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    Bad theology leading to bad counseling.

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    They had very bad theology when it came to suffering in general, which led them to give very bad counsel to Job in the midst of his suffering.

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    Their distortive view of suffering can be broken down into two sides of the same coin.

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    Make sure to write this down.

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    All success is a result of your obedience, and all suffering is a result of your sin.

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    We say it again.

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    All success is a result of your obedience, and all suffering is a result of your sin.

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    And there is no better way to summarize the bad theology of the three stooges than to read chapter four, verses seven through nine.

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    Listen to what Eliphaz has to ask Job.

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    Remember who that was innocent ever perished, or where were the upright cut off?

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    As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.

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    By the breath of God they perish, and by the blast of his anger they are consumed.

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    In other words, Job, buddy, you believe the same things that we do.

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    You know that good people do not have bad things like this happen to them.

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    You must have done something to deserve it.

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    Bildad really crosses the line and goes to the jugular in chapter eight, verse four.

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    Can't imagine saying this to a friend.

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    If your children have sinned against God, he has delivered them into the hand of their transgressions.

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    In other words, Job, your kids died because they sinned against God.

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    They got what they deserve.

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    There is no other explanation.

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    What a loving and caring friend.

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    And then Zophar steps up to the plate to offer this doozy in chapter 11, verse six.

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    "Know then that God exacts of you "less than your guilt deserves." Job, you think this is bad?

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    You deserve way worse.

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    God should have done more to you.

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    To Job's three friends, the formula for success and suffering is very simple and it can't be argued with.

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    The equation is like two plus two equals four.

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    Good intentions plus good actions equal success.

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    While bad intentions and bad actions always equal suffering.

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    You know, this theology didn't just end with Job's friends, but it's alive and well today.

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    Do you know that there are pastors and churches in this area that tell you that you are still sick because you don't have enough faith in God?

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    You don't have a lot of money because you don't have confidence, you don't truly believe that God wants you to be abundantly wealthy.

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    You are suffering because your faith is not strong enough.

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    If you do the right thing, God is obligated to give you a life that is all smooth sailing.

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    Please hear me when I say this, that line of thinking is stupid.

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    It is unbiblical, it is overly simplistic, and it is not true.

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    You see in Scripture that all the righteous and holy people suffer the most, not the least.

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    Yes, suffering is always a result of sin, but suffering is not always a result of your own sin.

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    Yes, sometimes you are in pain because you're reaping the consequences of very bad decisions.

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    Your marriage is terrible because you belittle your spouse, because you lust after women online.

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    You get fired from your job because of laziness.

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    You're lonely because you drink way too much and push people away.

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    Who is at fault for that?

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    Who is responsible for that suffering?

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    The person looking right back at you in the mirror.

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    You can also suffer because of other people's sins.

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    You lose out on the big promotion because a coworker lied about you to the boss.

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    Someone that you thought was your best friend stabs you in the back and slanders your good name, and for some reason, everyone believes him or her, even though you did nothing wrong.

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    And finally, you can suffer because of the sinfulness of this broken world.

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    You have a sudden heart attack out of nowhere, even though you never smoked, you ate clean, you worked out your entire life.

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    You lose a loved one due to a car accident, even though they obeyed the rules of the road.

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    You miscarry a child that you deeply love and you pray for.

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    You didn't do anything to bring these things upon yourself, No one else sinned against you either.

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    But the shadow of this fallen world has touched you nonetheless, and you have no idea why.

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    Job's friends failed to consider the complexity of sin and the complexity of this broken world.

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    And this failure led them to adopt some very unbiblical convictions.

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    And unbiblical convictions proved to be unhelpful without exception.

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    And in this case, their unbiblical convictions were aggressively unhelpful.

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    Instead of pulling Job up in love, they push him down with their lies.

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    And here's the problem this morning.

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    These guys were blind to their unbiblical convictions.

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    They were blind to their bad theology, and so were we.

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    If I asked you to raise your hand this morning, if you possess some bad theology, how many hands would go up?

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    Zero, none.

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    But I guarantee that many of you have bad thinking in your minds that is resulting in bad sharing from your mouths.

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    Bad sharing that makes hard situations even harder.

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    Bad sharing that intensifies problems and gives even more pain to already hurting people.

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    This is why you need to grow in your ability to discern.

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    Pastor Jeff has talked about this so much over the past few months.

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    You need to be able to discern what is biblical from that which is unbiblical.

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    This is why you need to be in a small group, to be in community with other believers who can sharpen you and point out your blind spots and point out your unbiblical convictions.

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    This is why you need to be in the word of God every single day and not just on Sundays.

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    There is nothing more dangerous than misinformed and undiscerning Christians who have a passion to share what they think they know.

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    But by God's grace, he's still at work in the midst of our foolishness.

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    I wanna wrap up this point by reevaluating the question that Eliphaz asked Job in chapter four, verse seven, which must have seemed so profound at the time, but should appear very foolish to us as Christians in 2024.

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    Read this with different eyes.

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    Jehovah, remember who that was innocent ever perished or where were the upright cut off.

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    What is the Sunday school answer to this question?

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    Jesus Christ.

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    All right, Aliphaz, when has the righteous ever suffered?

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    When has someone never done anything wrong and have been rejected for it?

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    Oh, I don't know.

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    How about God himself?

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    Jesus Christ is the only innocent and righteous person who has ever walked the face of this planet.

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    And yet he willingly perished in our place and on our behalf.

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    He was completely upright, but he was cut down and cut off on the cross to save wicked sinners like you and me.

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    Scripture makes it so clear.

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    2 Corinthians 5, 21, "For our sake he made him, Jesus, "to be no sin, who knew no sin, "so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 1 John 3, 5, "You know that he, Jesus, "appeared in order to take away sins, "and in him there is no sin." 1 Peter 3, 18, "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous that he might bring us to God.

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    This question from Eliphaz, which he asked in foolish ignorance, gets to the very heart of the gospel.

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    It points to the very heart of our Savior.

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    And if you're here this morning and you have not yet turned away from your sin and trusted in Christ for salvation, I am so glad that you're here.

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    Now I wanna talk to you for a minute.

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    I'm gonna say something that's not very popular nowadays.

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    You are not a good person deep down.

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    Sorry to break it to you.

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    You are not innocent.

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    You are not righteous.

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    You have sinned against a perfect and holy God.

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    You are unrighteous in your thinking, in your speaking, and your living.

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    That's the bad news.

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    The good news is you can become holy and righteous and innocent in the eyes of God this very moment if you submit to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

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    Your list of blameless, your list of blame is endless.

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    But the blameless Son of God will wipe it away in a millisecond if you turn to Him for salvation.

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    Because apart from Christ, you don't just have blind spots.

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    you are completely blind to the truth of God's word and the glories of the cross.

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    I've been praying for you all week that the Lord would bring you here this morning, that your spiritual sight would be restored as you look to Christ for the very first time.

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    So how to figure out if you're being that guy?

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    Second question on our outline today.

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    Do you mean well but fail to comfort well?

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    Do you mean well but fail to comfort well?

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    At this point in the sermon, you may be thinking, Taylor, I don't really relate to Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar.

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    I mean, I have good motivations.

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    I don't assume God's plans.

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    I don't judge other people's hearts.

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    I really think my heart is in the right place, so I don't think I'm being that guy or that girl.

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    Well, that's great to hear, but sometimes your right intentions don't translate well into right actions.

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    And let me explain it to you this way.

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    My almost three-year-old daughter, Emmy, loves to help my wife clean.

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    And I use the air quotes very purposefully.

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    That girl has such a heart for tidying up the house, but her cleaning leaves a lot to be desired.

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    She'll try to help clean up after dinner and she'll rub ketchup into the table.

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    She'll get blueberries all throughout her hair somehow.

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    Last week I was raking leaves, she just knocked over my bag and ruined all my progress.

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    She uses the handheld vacuum, drops it, dust and debris, gets everywhere.

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    Emmy's heart is certainly in the right place, but her actual cleaning leaves much to be desired.

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    And I think a lot of us are in the same boat as Emmy this morning when it comes to helping those who are suffering.

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    Our hearts are in the right place, but our comforting needs a lot of improvement.

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    We try to help clean up a very messy situation, but we end up making it even messier in the process.

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    So let's get practical by dealing with how we can fail to comfort well.

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    Do you mean well to fail to comfort well, letter A, by talking way too much, by talking way too much.

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    In chapter 16, verses two through three, Job gets fed up with all of his friends' lectures.

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    And he says, "I have heard many such things.

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    "Miserable comforters are you all.

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    "Shall windy words have an end, "or what provokes that you answer?" In other words, you guys can stop trying to make me feel better because you stink at it.

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    How much longer do you have to talk, 'cause I can't stomach much more.

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    These guys fell for one of the classic blunders.

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    they couldn't keep their mouths shut.

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    They lectured far better than they listened.

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    They could barely wait for Job to stop talking so that they could start talking.

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    You know, some of us in this room or watching online are more reserved and we don't talk a lot.

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    And there are others of us who are a bit more chatty and you know exactly who you are.

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    And those of us who are more chatty should really listen to what Job has to say in chapter 13, verse five.

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    You can make this your life verse for this week.

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    Oh that you would keep silent and it would be your wisdom.

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    Sometimes the wisest thing to say is nothing.

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    This is good advice for any area of life, but especially when it comes to loving those who are walking through the dark valleys of life.

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    Do you mean well but fail to comfort well?

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    Letter B, by saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

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    by saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

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    At this point, you may be thinking, well, Taylor, I can't just be completely silent when comforting someone.

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    I have to say something, right?

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    We all know that really awkward, uncomfortable moment when someone is grieving, going through a loss, and we have no idea what to say.

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    And unintentionally, we can say some very ignorant and unhelpful things.

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    Most, not all of us have been on the receiving end of that, and some of us have been on the giving end of that, of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

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    A couple with a kid or two finds out they can't biologically have any more children, and a well-meaning relative says, "Well, at least you already have kids." A 60-year-old is diagnosed with a very serious illness, And a well-meaning member of their church says, well, at least you had all those years of health.

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    Count your blessings.

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    Someone loses their spouse and they feel like half a person now.

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    And someone at the funeral says, well, at least you had all those years with your husband or your wife.

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    At least they're not suffering anymore.

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    Quick poll, are any of these comments helpful on any level?

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    No, they are extremely unhelpful.

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    If your attempt to comfort starts with at least The least you can do is keep it to yourself.

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    And I'm not pointing fingers here.

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    I can be guilty of this as well.

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    I've recently realized I can be an upsider.

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    I try to point out the silver lining in every bad situation.

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    I try to point out the upside.

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    And sometimes that can be helpful, but other times it can be downright hurtful.

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    And I certainly mean well by pointing out the upside.

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    but I often don't comfort well by pointing out the upside.

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    More often than not, sufferers just need you to sit with them as they experience the downside.

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    Acknowledge their grief, agree that the situation is hard and they have every right to be sad.

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    If you attend a viewing, if you show up at the hospital, if you're first on scene as a loved one is unraveling, I can guarantee you one thing that Pastor Jeff shared with me years ago.

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    They will most likely forget everything that you said, but they will never forget that you were there.

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    They need your comforting presence far more than they need your chatty presentations.

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    Remember, that's what Job's friends did very well in the very beginning, right?

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    They got a gold star for comforting until they opened their mouths to say the wrong things at the wrong time.

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    All right, finally, do you mean well but fail to comfort well?

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    Let her see by saying the right thing in the wrong way.

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    By saying the right thing in the wrong way.

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    As I said earlier, Job's friends do say some true and right things, but they often say these true and right things in the completely wrong way.

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    Job highlights this in chapter six, verse 14.

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    He who withholds kindness from a friend forsakes the fear of the Almighty.

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    Even if Job's suffering was a result of his sin, which it wasn't, his friend should have handled him with much more care, consideration, and love.

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    Romans 2.4 is very clear that it's God's kindness that leads people to repentance, not our jerkiness.

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    Job was like a fragile vase on the verge of breaking and his friends approached him like bulls in a china shop.

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    Their tone was very often judgmental, unkind, and impatient.

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    And this should serve as a lesson to us that we need to be cautious of not just what we say, but how we say it.

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    Our tone, our posture, our faces communicate just as much, if not more, than our words do.

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    Let me prove this to you.

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    I'm going to say the same thing in three different ways, and you're going to tell me how I come across in each example.

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    That sound good?

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    We get it?

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    All right.

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    You ready?

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    That's great!

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    How did I come across there?

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    Positive, happy, excited?

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    How about this one?

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    That's great.

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    What do we think?

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    Sarcastic?

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    How about this?

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    That's great.

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    Sad, indifferent, bitter.

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    But I said the same exact thing in each of those examples.

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    But the way I changed my face, the way I changed my voice totally changes the message that I'm communicating.

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    Do you see how easy it is to be misinterpreted, to be misunderstood?

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    You don't wanna communicate the wrong thing to someone who is suffering.

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    You don't want to come across as uncaring.

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    You don't want them to think that you'd rather be anywhere else in the world right now than sitting with me and listening to what I am going through.

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    You don't want a good word to be ruined by a bad delivery.

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    You don't want to say the right thing in the wrong way.

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    Well, as we come to the end of this message, you may feel a bit overwhelmed by how much you tend to be that guy or that girl.

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    I know I am overwhelmed by how much I tend to be that guy.

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    You may feel like it's hopeless to offer comfort to someone who is struggling.

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    You may feel like it's hopeless to make a difference in someone's life who's really in a dark struggle.

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    But instead of avoiding sufferers or turning away from their uncomfortable situations, I want to encourage you to run into the arms of your Lord and Savior, who always knows what to say and do.

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    Jesus Christ has never been and will never be that guy.

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    He knows exactly what you need as you suffer.

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    He knows exactly what the people around you need as they suffer.

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    Listen to how Jesus is described in Isaiah 42, verses two through three.

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    I love these verses.

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    He will not cry aloud or lift up his voice or make it heard in the street.

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    A bruised reed he will not break, and a faintly burning wick he will not quench.

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    Harvest, Jesus knows how weak we really are.

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    We are like brittle branches that are so close to breaking.

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    We are like candles that are almost out of wax and one breath away.

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    from being extinguished.

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    But Christ wraps us with his mighty hand so that hope will not be blown out.

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    And the worship team can make their way forward.

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    The amazing thing to me is that Jesus wants to use you and me as his agents of peace and comfort in a chaotic and tormented world.

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    Jesus wants to share his comfort through you to that family that's been devastated by a suicide or a drug overdose.

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    He wants to communicate the truth of his word to that neighbor who is suffering in silence down the street through your faithful witnessing.

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    He wants to impress his unconditional love upon that teenager in your house or in this church who feels isolated and depressed through your caring presence.

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    Do not turn away from this amazing privilege It's a massive responsibility.

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    Realize that you can't do it on your own.

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    Without Jesus Christ and growing closer to him, you will continue to be just like Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar.

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    But with Jesus, you can and will delicately handle those who desperately need what only he has to offer.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father, we come to you.

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    We all admit that we contend to be that guy or that girl who makes sufferers experience even more suffering.

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    The Lord, we can wrongly assume what you're up to.

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    We can judge other people's hearts.

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    We can mean well but fail to comfort well.

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    Lord, for those of us in this room who are suffering, who are going through the valley of the shadow of death, Lord, may they find the comfort that you alone have to offer.

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    And may they find it at Harvest Bible Chapel through your people.

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    And may all of us become more like Jesus Christ.

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    Help us to lean into him and trust that he will guide us.

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    He will lead us, that your Holy Spirit will help us to know what to say and do and what to not say and what not to do.

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    And we ask all these things in the name of Jesus Christ.

Small Group Discussion
Covering
Job 3-31

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. How do you see yourself being THAT guy or THAT girl right now when it comes to helping others especially those who suffer?

  3. Why is it so unwise to assume God’s plans and other people’s motives?

  4. What are some unbiblical and unhelpful convictions that many Christians have bought into?

  5. How can you grow in your ability to comfort well?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Everything Comes from God

Introduction:

How Can I Not Blame God for My Suffering?
3 Things to Remind Yourself When You Suffer: (Job 2:10):

  1. Foolish people blame God. (Job 2:10a)
  2. Everything comes from God. (Job 2:10b)
  3. Not blaming God is a matter of Choice . (Job 2:10c)

    Luke 22:31-32 - Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.

    Hebrews 7:25 - Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

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  • 01:12-01:14

    Open up those Bibles to Job chapter two.

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    And while you're turning there, let's just pause for a moment.

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    I'm going to ask that you would please pray for me to faithfully and clearly communicate the word of God.

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    And I will pray for you to have a heart open to receive what it is that God wants to teach us in his word today.

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    All right, let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, it's easy for us to get defensive or make excuses when we are addressing a touchy subject.

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    We might not wanna hear what your word has to say.

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    But I just pray, Father, that we would be able to come here with a heart that sincerely wants to hear from you, and that we would receive whatever it is you tell us through your Word.

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    It's not about what I think or my opinion.

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    It's really not about anybody's opinion.

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    It's about what you have declared to be true.

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    So Father, give us hearts and minds that want nothing but that.

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    We praise you, Father, for what you're going to do through your Word, through the power of your Holy Spirit conforming us into the image of your Son.

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    Father, thank you in Jesus' name, Amen.

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    Job chapter two.

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    If you were here last week, we went through Job chapter one and we met Job, who was a godly and wealthy man.

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    We saw this peak behind the curtain where Satan went before the Lord and questioned Job's motives for worshiping God.

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    Does he worship you because you're God and you're worthy of worship?

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    Or does he worship you because you give to him?

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    Well, Satan was permitted to take away from Job, but not to touch him.

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    And we saw in Job chapter one, four waves of tragedy.

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    There were attacks from man.

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    There were what we call natural disasters or freak accidents.

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    And in one day, Job lost all of his wealth and all 10 of his kids, one day.

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    But he still worshiped.

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    Now let's look at chapter two.

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    I kind of wish Job's story ended before this, but here we go.

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    Chapter two says, "Again, there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord.

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    And Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.

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    And the Lord said to Satan, 'From where have you come?' Satan answered the Lord and said, "From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down on it." Like, wait, wait, in this passage that we covered last week, no, this is not deja vu.

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    This is another heavenly council meeting.

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    We talked a little bit about that last week.

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    And I don't know how long it's been since the last one.

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    The Bible doesn't tell us.

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    But what we do see, same question from God, same answer from Satan, where have you been, what have you been doing?

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    Look at verse three.

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    And the Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job, "that there is none like him on the earth, "a blameless and upright man who fears God "and turns away from evil?

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    "He still holds fast his integrity, although you incited me against him to destroy him without reason." Same commendation as last time, but notice the Lord added a statement.

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    He still, he still, you should underline that in your Bible.

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    He still, meaning the Lord is saying that despite everything that Job went through.

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    His inside still matches the outside.

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    Job proved his sincerity.

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    We're gonna get back to that.

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    Look at verse four.

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    It says, "Then Satan answered the Lord and said, "'Skin for skin, all that a man has, "'he will give for his life.'" What's Satan saying here?

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    He's saying that a man's life, His physical wellbeing is worth way more than anything and everything that he owns.

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    That's a true statement, right?

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    Like just imagine this scenario.

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    Imagine you were diagnosed with terminal cancer and you went to the doctor and the doctor said, "Yeah, I can treat you and I can cure that.

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    "It's gonna cost you everything in your bank account." Show of hands, how many people would pay it?

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    Yeah, right?

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    Like, yeah, I'll pay any amount.

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    That's Satan's point.

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    That's why he started this statement saying, "Skin for skin." It was an expression meaning that you're willing to sacrifice someone else's skin if it means saving your own skin.

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    Satan goes, yeah, yeah, okay, so, all right, his stuff was taken away, but you know what, Lord?

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    A man's life and a man's health is a man's greatest possession.

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    That's the claim.

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    Look at verse five.

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    He says, "But stretch out your hand "and touch his bone and his flesh, "and he will curse you to your face." Here's Satan's new claim.

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    He goes, "Look, okay, anybody can recover "from losing his stuff, right?

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    "But what if he loses his health?

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    "Then, then he will curse you to your face." Satan is persistent.

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    And truth be told, after he lost in chapter one, He should have just immediately conceded defeat.

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    After the trials of chapter one, Satan said, "You know what, Lord?

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    "You're right, you're right.

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    "Job is legit.

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    "But Satan's persistent.

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    "And Satan is malicious.

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    "And he's not content to stop.

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    "He's gonna keep upping the ante.

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    So listen, my friends, don't expect, if you're going through some hard trial in your life right now, that once you get through it, it's gonna be smooth sailing to heaven.

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    Doesn't work that way.

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    In fact, if Job's story is any indication, it's probably gonna get worse for you.

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    Look at verse six.

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    "And the Lord said to Satan, 'Behold, he is in your hand.' "Only spare his life." So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord. And again, we saw this last week. Satan makes this evil, wicked, malicious bet, and God goes with it.

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    He permits Satan to proceed.

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    He gives him parameters again.

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    Notice he says, "Okay, you can touch him, "but do not kill him." And I gotta tell you, look, if I was God, I would've cut this off at this point.

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    I mean, if I was God, I would've said, "You know what, that's enough.

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    "That's enough.

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    "He's suffered enough.

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    "He proved himself enough.

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    "Knock it off." That's what I would've said.

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    You see, the Lord went a bit of a different route because his glory is more important than our comfort.

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    See, the question on the table is this, is God worthy of worship?

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    And after the events of chapter one, we're like, you know what, yeah, I think so.

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    Pretty sure, but now this scene is setting up we have to be absolutely sure.

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    Will a man worship God because God is worthy of worship?

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    Or does a man only worship God if he gets something out of it?

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    Well, look at verse seven again.

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    He says, "Satan went up in the presence of the Lord and struck Job with loathsome sores, from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head." He previously says Satan left God and there was a day.

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    Here it seems that there was an immediate attack.

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    It seems here there's no time wasted, that he goes straight from God's presence to attack Job.

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    the agents that Satan used were humans and nature, but this looks like it was just a direct attack. Like, "Well, what are these loathsome sores?" Well, we don't really know the exact diagnosis of them. There's been a lot of speculation. Is this some form of leprosy or something like that? We don't know, but does it really matter if we have the exact diagnosis. Look at verse 8, it says, "And he took a piece of broken pottery with which to scrape himself while he sat in the ashes." Sat in the ashes, that's the burning rubbish heap that's like the place that Jesus used to compare to hell.

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    And he scratched himself with broken pottery.

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    Here's a man who was prominent and wealthy and had everything, and now he's sitting in the garbage dump scratching himself with garbage.

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    He's just completely broken now.

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    Everything about Job is broken now.

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    what else can you take from them? Because if you kill them, we're not going to get our answer. If a man will find God worthy of worship just because he's God. I wish this story ended here, but Job has another trial, and I can tell you this with complete confidence and complete conviction that of everything that Job experienced to this point, the thing that comes next is the absolute worst thing that Job experienced.

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    A sideways wife.

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    Some of you men were afraid to laugh at that.

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    And I commend you for that.

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    Look at verse nine.

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    It says, "Then his wife said to him, "Do you still hold fast your integrity?

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    "Curse God and die." Interestingly, she asked exactly what God declared in verse three.

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    Do you still hold fast your integrity?

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    She goes, "Just die." Now, if you're familiar with the story though, I think a lot of us get to this point where like, "Oh, I know what's coming.

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    Here comes the nasty wife.

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    Should be supporting him.

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    Instead, she's piling on." And I just want to encourage you to not be so quick to judge Job's wife, because remember, She just lost 10 kids too.

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    And I could imagine, like a lot of us, when you're speaking under extreme stress, maybe things come out your mouth the way you don't want them to come out.

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    So let's pump the brakes on judging her.

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    Whatever her motive was, and I can't speak to her motive, but whatever her motive was, She became the mouthpiece of Satan's temptation.

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    She was telling Job to do what Satan wanted Job to do, curse God.

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    Just curse God.

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    Look, Job, you've suffered enough, okay?

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    Apparently, God doesn't care.

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    So just curse him and cash in already, okay?

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    Enough, enough of this.

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    Look at verse 10.

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    And he said to her, "You speak as one of the foolish women would speak." Okay, let's stop there for a second.

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    Because I did a lot of reading this week.

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    I did a lot of reading, especially about this verse.

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    Because this verse is sort of the crux of the whole thing.

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    You'll see it on the outline.

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    So what I found when I read so many commentators, incidentally, men that I read.

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    Immediately rushed to Job's side to say, "Look, what Job said right here wasn't mean." Look at it again.

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    He says to his wife, "You speak as one of the foolish women would speak." And so many commentators are like, "Well, no, he wasn't being mean, okay?

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    He didn't call her foolish.

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    He was saying that you speak as a foolish woman." Some commentators said, you know, what Job was saying was, it was really kind of a compliment.

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    He was saying, what you're saying is beneath you.

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    You're better than that.

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    This statement isn't worthy of you.

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    You know, I would expect such advice from a fool, but not from you, cupcake.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    So I read so many commentators that just lined up to defend Job, to say, "Look, what he said wasn't mean, "and it wasn't harsh." So I tried it.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Aaron came up to me this past week, and she made some observation about something.

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    I don't remember quite the subject matter and you'll understand why this escaped me now.

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    But she shared something with me and I said, "Aaron, you speak like a foolish woman.

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    Men, husbands, don't.

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    Don't say that." Trust me on that.

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    The doctor said the bones are setting nicely though.

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    Let's go on to verse 10.

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    He says, "Shall we receive good from God, and shall we not receive evil?

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    In all this, Job did not sin with his lips. Job passed the test again. Job was the same without health as he was without wealth, and now heaven is silent until we get to chapter 38. Here's the issue. Notice Satan kept bringing it up. What did Satan want Job to do? He wanted him to curse God. What's he talking about?

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    He's talking about this, my friends, when we suffer, we have this tendency, we have this temptation when we suffer to immediately blame God. Now, please hear me. There is a God's sovereignty over everything.

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    And blaming God.

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    And cursing God.

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    You see, this angry blaming, this resentful, bitter blaming, that's the heart of cursing God.

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    It's not, "I know God is allowing this and God's using this." That's not what he's...

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    That's not the attitude.

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    The attitude here is, "God, you did this!

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    You brought this on, God!

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    You could have done something about this!" And it's just this angry backlash against God.

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    And even when we do it, if we do it, we know deep down, we know that it's not right to blame God.

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    It's an emotional reaction.

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    But right here we see very clearly Job did not go there.

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    And I shared with you last week a little bit about the suffering that our family is enduring.

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    So maybe you're like me, maybe you're getting through this passage of Job here and you're like, wow, how can I come through such horrible suffering and not be angry with God about that?

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    Or on your outline, how can I not blame God for my suffering?

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    Somehow Job managed to not curse God.

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    How can I get there?

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    Well, it's all found in one verse.

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    It's all found in verse 10.

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    Here's three things to remind yourself when you suffer.

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    You know, when you suffer and you're tempted angry with God, and you're gonna give God a piece of your mind, and you're gonna lash out at God, and you're gonna blame God.

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    There's three things to remind yourself, so that you don't curse God with your lips.

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    Number one, right, just foolish people blame God.

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    Look, I don't know the sense in which Job made that horrible statement to his wife.

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    Do you, where he says, "You speak as one of the foolish women would speak." But Job, despite his suffering, immediately knew.

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    He immediately knew that this idea of cursing or angrily blaming God, Job immediately knew in the middle of the suffering, he goes, "That's foolish to do that." Job was given so much from God.

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    And he already acknowledged in chapter one, he's leaving the earth with exactly what he brought into the earth.

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    So you see Job's attitude is, look, after everything that God's done for me, you mean to tell me I'm just gonna, at this point, face a little hardship and turn on him?

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    After everything he's done for me?

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    Come on.

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    That's foolish.

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    And every single one of you know that that's foolish.

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    You know that it is.

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    You're like, I'm not sure that I know that.

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    I'm sure that you know that.

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    Parents, did you ever take your little ones to Kennywood or Waldemere or someplace like that?

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    Parents, have you ever done that?

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    Taking your like, you're like, we're gonna have a blast today.

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    Have you ever done that?

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    We're gonna go to the Kennywood and we're gonna ride all the rides and we're gonna get the potato patch fries, right?

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    And we're gonna get ice cream and then on the way out, we're gonna get you a balloon and then we're walking to the car and the kid lets go of the balloon and has a complete meltdown, right?

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    This is the worst day of my life.

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    Excuse me?

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    You mean to tell me we just had like 12 hours of the most fun a human can have and you lost your balloon and now your life is over?

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    Is that reasonable?

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    You're like, no, it's a child.

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    It's foolishness, right?

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    But I just have to ask us, church, have we really grown out of that?

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    Have we really grown out of that?

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    Because, you know, maybe our Lord isn't going to take you to Kennywood as an adult.

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    That would be fun, but maybe that's not how it's gonna go down.

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    But you know, you've been blessed with family.

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    You've been blessed with church family.

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    Look around the room, you've been blessed with this church family.

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    You've eaten, and you get to enjoy football, and you get to enjoy the sunshine, and you get to enjoy puppies.

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    And then some hardship comes our way, and we're like, "God hates me!

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    "My life is so miserable!" And we're just like that kid at Kennywood that just lost his balloon.

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    Oh, and by the way, compared to Job, you have even less reason to blame God.

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    Because you got to peek behind the curtain.

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    Job had no idea this stuff was going on.

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    But see, by this infinite blessing of the word of God, we do know what was going on.

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    And it's very clear here.

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    Satan is held responsible for what happened to Job.

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    Okay, understand.

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    It wasn't like God was up in heaven one day is bored, he goes, "Uh, you know, nothing on TV. I guess I'll smite someone that's trying to do the right thing." That's not how this played out. We see exactly how this plays out. Yes, God gave permission, but God was not complicit. And somebody would say, "Yeah, You know what, but God could have stopped it.

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    But God allowed it.

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    So isn't it, honestly, isn't it kind of from God?

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    If he could have stopped it, but he allowed it.

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    Isn't that kind of from God when you think about it that way, you know, when you really think about it?

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    Well, look at number two on your outline.

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    How can I not blame God?

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    Here's something to remind yourself.

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    Number two, everything comes from God.

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    And if you wanna keep yourself from blaming God, if you wanna keep yourself from getting bent at the Almighty every time some hardship comes into your life, you gotta get where Job got.

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    And here's where Job got.

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    Everything comes from God.

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    Look at this statement.

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    The reason Job didn't curse, it's all in this one statement here.

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    He says, "Shall we receive good from God "and shall we not receive evil?" Like, how does that help?

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    How does that help anybody?

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    Well, first of all, notice he said we, he was including her.

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    Job wasn't speaking self-centeredly or magnanimously.

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    Job was speaking for both of them.

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    But in so doing, he gives a general principle for us all.

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    everything good in your life you have received from God.

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    So, can we not trust that same God to give us things that maybe look harmful?

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    Believing that God knows what is best for us.

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    This past Friday, I told you about my son a little bit last week.

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    19 years old, suffers from some pretty severe health issues and as you know, mostly nonverbal.

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    But this past Friday, we took him to Children's Hospital for a medical infusion.

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    And I don't know how much he really understood about what was going on on Friday.

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    But you know, I got to thinking, and I want to encourage you, imagine this scenario from his perspective, okay?

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    'Cause I mean, it's natural, you might try to imagine this from my perspective, forget that.

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    I want you to imagine the trip to Children's Hospital from my son's perspective.

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    that dad makes you get dressed and get in the car, and dad drives you down to the city.

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    And dad and mom, Aaron was there too.

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    But I'm gonna take the heat for this.

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    Dad made him sit in a chair, while a stranger came and shoved an enormous needle in his arm.

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    What do you think he was thinking in that moment?

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    Like, I thought dad loved me.

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    Why would dad do this?

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    Why would dad bring me here?

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    Why would dad allow this person to make me suffer like this?

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    Why would dad do that?

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    I thought dad cared about me.

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    So no, stick this giant needle in your arm.

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    Now don't move for an hour.

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    So okay, so not only is dad allowing this person to stab me, but dad's forbidding me to move from this place.

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    And for him, an hour seems like about three weeks.

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    Do you think there's a chance that that suffering that he experienced on Friday might've looked evil to him?

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    Do you think?

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    Do you think maybe somehow in his own way, trying to process this.

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    Do you think maybe the question crossed his mind, why would dad allow this to happen to me?

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    But you know that dad was allowing that suffering because dad loves him.

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    So my question to you is, is it possible?

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    Is it possible that God has allowed suffering into my life to ultimately bless me?

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    Is it possible that the suffering that I'm experiencing in my life right now is sort of the equivalent to dad sitting me in a chair and allowing a stranger to stick an IV into my arm?

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    You see, when I suffer, there's a lot that I don't know.

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    When you suffer, there's a lot you don't know.

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    How long do I have to endure this?

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    What's God's, what is God's ultimate goal here?

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    How is God ultimately going to use this in my life or in the lives of others or for this church?

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    That there is, despite all the questions that I have, there is one thing that I know with absolute certainty in the face of any suffering that I endure, and it is God's character.

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    I know that.

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    He loves me with an eternal love.

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    He loves me with a love that's greater than the love that I have for my own son.

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    And once again, we get this peek behind the curtain In Job chapter two, and once again, it's like God wants us to know there is nothing that is coming into your life that doesn't go through his hands first.

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    Anything Satan wants to do to you has to go across his desk, has to go across God's desk before it comes into your life.

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    Remember the end of chapter one, Job says, "God does nothing empty." So if I'm suffering, God is not only allowing it, but he's using it, even if I don't see how.

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    He's using it.

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    And if I get that, if I get to the place, everything comes from God.

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    Even this thing that looks horrible had to have come from him, then I'm not gonna curse him.

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    And finally, number three, how do I not blame God for my suffering?

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    Remind yourself this, not blaming God is a matter of choice.

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    It's a matter of choice.

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    Look at verse 10 again, last phrase.

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    It says in all this, "Job did not sin with his lips." Job did not sin with his lips.

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    You're like, okay, well, what about his heart?

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    I don't know.

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    I do know for sure that Job struggled to make sense of all of this.

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    I do know that because you read the rest of the book, you're gonna see him trying to process, making sense of this horrible suffering.

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    But, Job sinning with his lips is what Satan predicted.

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    And Job sinning with his lips is not what Job did.

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    And so, Satan was wrong again. Look, I don't want any of this to come across like some cold, detached, clinical, academic evaluation of suffering. No, look, we already talked about this a little bit last week.

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    Feelings are feelings, right?

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    Job wasn't a robot.

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    You can't help how you feel, okay?

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    Feelings aren't wrong.

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    I have people all the time when I'm counseling, they say, "Oh, you know what, Pastor Jeff?

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    "I know it's wrong, but I feel that." No, no, no, feelings are never wrong.

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    Feelings are a reaction.

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    What I wanna get to is what are you thinking that's making you feel that way?

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    because maybe your thinking's off.

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    But feelings aren't inherently wrong.

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    You feel what you feel.

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    And no one is expecting you to love suffering, okay?

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    Look, you can't choose how you feel.

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    but you can choose what you're gonna do with your mouth.

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    You have that choice.

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    And with this mouth, you can curse God, or you can worship God.

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    I gotta tell you, the first couple of chapters of Job, they're scary.

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    And when I say they're scary, I don't mean like, like a horror movie, right?

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    Do you like the scary movies?

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    I remember as a kid seeing "Jaws." Did you ever see "Jaws?" Saw it as an adult.

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    Didn't have the same impact it had on me when I was, when I was a kid, it terrified me.

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    But Job is scary.

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    But see, it's different because in Jaws, I just stay out of the ocean.

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    So I can watch the movie and I can have those feelings, but not for me.

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    That's like getting eaten by a shark.

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    That's your problem.

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    You know, no sharks in Zillionopel.

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    But you know what makes Job so scary?

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    is because this could be your story.

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    Job's story can become your story too.

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    That's what makes this so terrifying.

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    You're like, "Wait, how do we know Job "ain't a one and done?" Well, I do know Revelation 12 looked that up sometime.

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    Satan is called the accuser of the brothers.

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    How about this one?

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    Did you know, did you know that Satan went to God about Peter the same way that Satan went to God about Job?

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    Do we have those verses?

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    What is it, Luke 22?

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    Yeah, there it is.

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    This is what Jesus said to Peter.

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    He said, "Simon, Simon, behold, "Satan demanded to have you." Sound familiar?

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    It's the same stuff.

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    Oh yeah, what do you mean?

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    Jesus says that he might sift you like wheat.

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    What's that mean?

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    Means I'm gonna put him through the ringer and see if he's legit.

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    Sound familiar?

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    Satan demanded to have you, he might sift you like wheat.

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    Look at this, "But I have prayed for you "that your faith may not fail.

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    "And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers." Notice there, Jesus didn't pray that it wouldn't happen.

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    Did you notice that?

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    He prayed for Peter's faith.

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    And Jesus told Peter on the other side of his suffering, he'll be equipped to minister to others.

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    And they're like, yeah, good for Peter.

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    I mean, could you imagine the rush that you would get if the Lord Jesus Christ himself came and said, hey, I've been praying for you.

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    Like good for Peter, he had God incarnate praying for him.

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    Well, let's look at another verse, Hebrews chapter seven.

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    Look at this, talking about Jesus, it says, "Consequently, he is able to save to the other most those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them." Do you know that Jesus is praying for you?

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    And I don't mean Jesus is praying for you in the lie that we tell at church, like I've been praying for you when we haven't been, or I will pray for you when we won't.

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    Jesus is actually right now praying for you.

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    And if his statement to Peter is any indication, Jesus isn't praying for you the way most of us pray for others.

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    You know, we often would say, "God, God, heal him." That's what we would do.

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    "Heal him, God, God, please heal him." And there's nothing wrong with praying that.

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    God, ease her suffering.

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    Please, God, take her suffering away.

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    There's nothing really wrong with praying that either.

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    I want you to notice that Jesus is praying.

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    that through your suffering you have a stronger faith that you're going to use to lift others up.

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    So whether it looks good or bad, whether you see God's purpose for your suffering right now, or you have no idea what he's doing. You've got to land on the truth that kept Job from cursing God. And that is the acknowledgement and the belief and the firm conviction that everything comes from God.

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    So we're gonna worship Him.

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    Let's pray.

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    Our Father in heaven, it is a terrifying thought for us to think that someone like Satan would wanna destroy us just because he likes to destroy.

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    In fact, we even see in your Word, Father, You said to Satan that he tried to incite you against Job to destroy him without reason.

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    It's a horrifying thought.

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    But what an eternally comforting thought to know that there's not a thing that Satan could do to any of us, that you don't have to okay first, and that you're going to use whatever suffering Satan wants to bring, you're going to turn it back on his head and you're going to use it to bless us and bless others.

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    Father, I just pray today, 'cause I know there are so many people suffering here.

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    Some have suffered loss.

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    Some are suffering with health issues.

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    Some are suffering with relationship issues.

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    We all got something.

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    But I just pray today, Father, that you would energize and refresh and encourage our hearts with the truth that everything comes from you.

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    So we will worship.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read
Job 2:1-10

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. Why did Satan say that physical suffering will turn a man against God, when losing wealth wouldn’t (Job 2:4-5)? Do you think there’s truth in that? Why or why not?

  3. Note the last sentence in Job 2:3. What did God mean that Satan “incited God against Job to destroy Job without reason”? What does this say about Satan’s motives?

  4. Job’s reason for not cursing God is given in the question Shall we receive good from God, and shall we not receive evil? (Job 2:10) How is this a reasonable explanation to not curse God in your suffering? What does it mean that God “gives evil”?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

What Do We See Behind the Curtain?

Introduction:

What Do We See Behind the Curtain? (Job 1):

  1. Heaven takes note of your Conduct .
  2. Your Motive is what really Matters .
  3. Satan does Nothing without God's say so.

You WILL Worship While You Suffer:

  1. If you are a worshiper Before you Suffer . (Job 1:5)
  2. If you remember that you're Leaving Earth with what you Brought . (Job 1:21)
  3. If you believe that God has a Purpose for literally Everything . (Job 1:22)

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  • 01:12-01:14

    Open up your Bibles to the book of Job.

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    The first service was packed, and I think it was because of that whole extra hour, right?

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    I had an idea for that, now hear me out.

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    You know, daylight savings, you get an extra hour, right?

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    I always thought they should give you some sort of a coupon or something that you can use that hour whenever you want, right?

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    Like if you're late for work, you're like, I'm gonna cash in my hour today, please.

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    I mean, isn't that a great idea?

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    Who's with me on that?

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    Okay, I'd like to cash in my extra hour right now for this sermon.

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    You're like, I don't think that's such a good idea anymore.

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    Let's bow our heads.

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    I'm gonna ask that you would please pray for me and I will pray for you.

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    Pray for me to be faithful to communicate God's word And I will pray for you to receive it for what it is the word of God.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father, we believe that faith comes by hearing and hearing through the word of Christ.

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    So I pray, Father, that you would increase our faith today, strengthen our faith on what is a very sensitive subject.

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    Open our hearts and minds for what you have to say.

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    We pray in Jesus' name.

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    And all of God's people said, amen.

    02:46-02:47

    Job chapter one.

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    Many of you know, I have a very sick son.

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    And I'm not sure how many of you realize the extent of his disorder.

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    At a very young age, he was diagnosed with autism.

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    And we've been to some of the best autism doctors in the world, and one of the world's greatest doctors in this field said that my son's case was one of the worst he's ever seen.

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    Not what you wanna hear from the doctor, right?

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    But he's mostly nonverbal.

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    But he has some other conditions too.

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    We found out, for example, that he's always producing adrenaline.

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    Something in his body is constantly producing adrenaline and he doesn't produce melatonin.

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    And when you put that together, what you have is somebody who never gets tired.

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    But the other problem with that is he is, with the constantly producing adrenaline, he is so often in his life in fight or flight mode.

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    And if you've ever been so scared that you could run through a wall, or so angry that you're tempted to punch somebody in the mouth, he lives in that on top of his other issues.

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    He also has a condition we found out several years ago called pandas.

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    That's the pediatric version, and there's a different name for it when you're an adult, I can't remember what it is, but it's a strep A blood infection.

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    And his mixture of problems results in violent outbursts that are always so unpredictable.

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    We can go a couple of weeks where he's happy.

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    We can go a month where he's raging nonstop.

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    And when the levy breaks and he rages, it results in him, he's put holes in walls, he's attacked a dog.

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    One of his favorite things to do is to just smash glass.

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    So he'll get a candle or a drinking glass or anything that he can shatter on the floor.

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    And maybe the worst is there've been many times where he's attacked his mother.

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    And he's bigger than me now.

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    And there have been so many times that I've been here at work and I'll get a phone call.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    And I've had to race home because he's attacking his mother.

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    I know if my other son calls me, I know that that's always a bad thing.

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    He usually texts me, but if my younger son calls me, I'm like, we're having problems.

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    One time when I got the call, it sounded like a war zone in the background.

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    There was just so much screaming and smashing.

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    I jumped in the car and was racing home again.

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    And as I often do in these situations, as you would, I pray while I'm heading home.

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    Usually text Pastor Taylor and ask him to pray.

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    But one time in particular, and I'm not proud of this, but I'm just being honest with you, I was angry praying.

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    I remember what I said.

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    I was screaming while I was driving, I'm 19 here, I was screaming, "God, I know that you see what's happening, "but what I don't understand is how you can watch and not do anything about it. I don't understand that. I was angry, crying out, "God, why? Why don't you stop this? Why would you allow this kid to suffer that results in suffering for the whole family? Why would you allow this, God?

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    Why don't you do anything about it? Why?

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    That's always the question, isn't it? When you're suffering, it's why. And in this In series through Job, we want to make sense of suffering.

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    We all face suffering.

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    Like, I'm not telling you my story as if I got the market cornered on suffering.

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    We all got our share, right?

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    For some of you, maybe it's a relationship issue.

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    You're suffering because of a problem with someone else.

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    For some of you, Maybe it's a financial hardship.

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    For some of you, maybe it's problems in your business.

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    A business that you've poured yourself into and now there's problems.

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    There's, you know, am I gonna have to close the doors?

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    Am I gonna be bankrupt?

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    And I know for a lot of you, it'd be personal loss.

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    Saying goodbye to somebody when you weren't ready to say goodbye.

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    But in all this, whatever your suffering is, wouldn't you like to know why?

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    Wouldn't you like to know why God would allow that to happen to you?

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    Well, let's look at God's word together, shall we?

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    Let's look at chapter one.

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    Let's start in verse one.

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    It's a good place to start.

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    It says, "Now there was a man in the land of Uz "whose name was Job.

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    "And that man was blameless and upright, "one who feared God and turned away from evil.

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    "They were born to him seven sons and three daughters.

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    "He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, "500 yoke of oxen and 500 female donkeys "and very many servants, "so that this man was the greatest "of all the people of the East." That's a little bit about the man, Job.

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    He was a good guy.

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    He was honest, he was upright, and he was loaded.

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    He had so much wealth.

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    They had a big family.

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    Look at verse four, speaking of, "His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day." Sounds like he's talking about like a birthday party.

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    They'd get together on each other's birthdays and have a big party, is what it sounds like.

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    "And they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them." Okay, so Job not only had a big family, he had what looks like a very functional family.

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    All the kids got along and they enjoyed being together Great. He goes on.

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    "And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings.

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    According to the number of them all," that tells us Job probably lived in the patriarchal area, like in Abraham's day, because this was pre-Mosaic law, right?

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    Kind of dates it a little bit for us.

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    It says, "For Job said, 'It may be "that my children have sinned "and cursed God in their hearts.' "Thus Job did continually." So we learned quite a bit about this man.

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    He was a wealthy man, he was a family man, but he was also a godly man, right?

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    He was a worshiper.

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    Let's jump down to verse 13.

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    It says, "Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and drinking in their oldest brother's house." Okay, birthday party.

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    "And there came a messenger to Job and said, 'The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them.

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    And the Sabeans fell upon them and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword.

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    And I alone have escaped to tell you.'" Like this is horrible news.

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    He was robbed.

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    And if you've ever been robbed, somebody's ever stolen something from you, you know how violated that makes you feel.

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    It's happened to me.

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    You just feel so just angry and like, can't believe somebody would, horrible.

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    Verse 16, it says, "While he was just speaking, "there came another and said, "the fire of God fell from heaven." probably lightning, right?

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    And burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them.

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    And I alone have escaped to tell you.

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    Like what?

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    What?

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    You mean to say I was not only robbed, but you're telling me that some natural disaster wiped out many of my servants and some more of my wealth?

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    What?

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    New verse 17 says, "While he was yet speaking, And there came another and said, the Chaldeans formed three groups and made a raid on the camels and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword.

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    And I alone have escaped to tell you.

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    That was a little more than just a robbery, wasn't it?

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    That was like a calculated attack.

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    They formed groups.

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    That was a deliberate hostile attack.

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    And if you're like Job, you would think, man, can this day get any worse?

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    It says, "While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine "in their oldest brother's house." I imagine at this point, Job was like, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I know, I know, yeah.

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    What about them, what about them?

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    "Behold, a great wind came across the wilderness "and struck the four corners of the house, "and it fell upon the young people, and they are dead.

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    "And I alone have escaped to tell you." That's the worst thing a parent can hear.

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    There's been a terrible accident.

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    Your kids didn't make it.

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    I'm so sorry.

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    Why?

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    I mean, we saw in the first few verses what kind of a guy he was.

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    So why would a godly man who was so dedicated to his family and so dedicated to the Lord suffer the way that he did?

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    Why?

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    Why is always the question, isn't it?

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    Why are there tragic car accidents?

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    Why are there hurricanes?

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    Why do children get sick?

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    And then my son goes to the Watson Institute when we can get him there.

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    And it is absolutely heartbreaking to sit in a parking lot and watch these parents pull up in their vans and kids being wheeled in, AIDS coming out, some kids have walkers, some in wheelchairs or wagons.

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    And it's hard to just sit and watch that.

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    So often I just think, why?

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    Why would God allow that to happen?

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    Why is always the question, right?

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    Why did my faithful friend's church plant fail?

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    Why was my close friend Mike killed in a motorcycle accident years ago?

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    Why does my son have to suffer with this horrible condition?

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    I'm a piece of garbage, I deserve to suffer, but not him.

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    He doesn't deserve this.

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    Why?

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    Why did Job have the worst day that a person can have?

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    And go ahead and challenge me on that.

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    Have you had a worse day than this?

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    Why?

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    Do you realize in one day, in one day Job dealt with like the whole spectrum of like bad things that can happen to a person, right?

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    He dealt with a malicious attack, sin, robbery.

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    We could just label that under sins at the hands of others.

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    He dealt with that twice, by the way, same day.

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    He dealt with two natural disasters, lightning, hurricane that wiped out not just his stuff, but in one day, not only losing his servants and all of his wealth, he lost all 10 of his kids one day.

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    Why?

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    Well, you know, in Job's case, we actually get the why.

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    And we, listen, church, we really need to sit up and pay really close attention for all of the times that I've had to ask myself why, and you've asked yourself, why am I going through this?

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    We actually get insight to why Job suffered the loss of his wealth and servants and children.

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    And maybe there's something here for us too.

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    We actually get a peek behind the curtain of heaven.

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    I skipped a section, did you notice that?

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    I wanna go back and look at that.

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    I wanna look at these events, that this peek behind the curtain of what was going on in heaven sometime before Job had this horrible day of tragedy.

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    Go to verse six.

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    It says, "Now there was a day "when the sons of God "came to present themselves before the Lord.

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    "And Satan also came among them." Like, what's he talking about here?

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    Well, sons of God, did you know there is a divine council?

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    Beings that are supernatural, but beneath God.

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    It's all through the Old Testament, by the way, and in the New Testament.

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    Psalm 82, Psalm 89, 1 Kings 22.

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    I don't have time to unpack all of that today.

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    But if you're interested, buy me Chick-fil-A and we can sit down and talk about it.

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    But it says that the sons of God, this divine counsel, they came to present themselves.

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    Now that's kind of a technical term in the Hebrew.

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    It's when you show up before a superior to get your assignment.

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    Like, hey, I'm showing up, tell me what you would like me to do and I'll do it.

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    That's what's going on here.

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    And it says that Satan came among them.

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    Now, something we lose in the English.

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    In the Hebrew, there's a definite article attached to this.

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    It is the Satan came.

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    Satan's not a name, by the way, it's a title.

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    It means adversary.

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    It means an opponent.

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    So the adversary came among them.

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    Look at the next verse, verse seven says, "And the Lord said to Satan, 'From where have you come?'" Do you know when God asks a question, he's not looking for information.

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    You know that, right?

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    He's looking for a confession.

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    So he goes, "From wherever you come, "Satan answered the Lord and said, "from going to and fro in the earth "and from walking up and down on it." So God's like, "Report, what have you been doing?" And Satan sounds like a teenager.

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    God's like, "What have you been doing?" And Satan's like, "Stuff."

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Where have you been?

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    Oh, you know, here and there.

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    Verse eight, "The Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job, "that there is none like him on the earth, "a blameless and upright man "who fears God and turns away from evil?" Now, you know, this verse here, apparently one of Satan's jobs is to search man and woman who legitimately loves God.

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    Because God, do you notice, he initiates this part of the conversation, but God here highlights somebody that he sounds actually proud of, doesn't he?

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    He says, "If you consider Job," and then the Lord repeats the same description of Job that was written in verse one.

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    Okay, back in verse nine it says, then Satan answered the Lord and said, "Does Job fear God for no reason?

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    Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has on every side?

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    You have blessed the work of his hands and his possessions have increased in the land." So Satan agrees with the assessment.

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    But he asks the big question, "Why?" Oh, we've been talking about why.

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    Satan has a why, though.

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    His is this, "Why does Job worship you?

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    Does Job worship you because you are worthy of worship or does Job worship you because Job benefits from you?

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    I mean, come on, let's face it, you gave Job a wife and they must get along pretty good because they got 10 kids.

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    So you've given Job this big, amazing family.

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    Oh, by the way, you also gave Job so much wealth.

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    Oh, and protection?

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    You're like a personal security guard for Job.

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    You put a hedge around him.

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    Satan's like, well, who wouldn't sign up for that?

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    If there's a God who's gonna just give all of this stuff like that, like who wouldn't wanna follow a God like that?

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    Look at verse 11.

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    He says, "But stretch out your hand "and touch all that he has, "and he will curse you to your face." Satan says the only way to know that Job is legit, take his stuff away and see if he still worships you.

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    (laughs)

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    That's evil.

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    That is evil.

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    But he's right.

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    He's right in that that's a way to find out what somebody's really made of, isn't it?

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    I mean, Satan's probably seen it countless times before, where people were like, when things are good, praise God.

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    Then hard times come, God hates me.

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    Satan has probably seen this so many times.

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    I'm sure of that because as a pastor, I've only been a pastor for like two and a half decades.

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    I've seen it so many times, just in that short amount of time, so many times, that when somebody comes to the church for help and you help them, you're the greatest thing since Chuck Spurgeon.

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    But the minute you can't deliver for them the way they want you to, you're trash.

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    There was this one guy, he had just gotten out of jail and he had nothing.

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    I can't remember what holiday it was, but it was on a holiday.

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    But my wife and I, we put him up at this hotel, it was this place in Route 8, and we went to the store and we got him groceries and got him all set up.

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    And he's just like, "Oh, Pastor Jeff, "you're the greatest pastor in the world." And I'm like, "My dog thinks so." And he's like, "You are just awesome." And then like almost immediately he goes, "I need you to get diapers and wipes "'cause I gotta deliver my kid." And I'm like, "I can't, I just can't do that right now." And I'll never, he just completely lashed out at me.

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    He goes, "You know, I thought you knew the Lord." And I'm like, "So, let me get this straight.

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    "I'm only great if I can do something for you.

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    "But if I don't, I'm no good." You see, that's exactly what Satan was saying about Job.

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    Oh, he's only gonna worship you as long as you keep bringing him his stuff.

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    But you take that away.

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    He's not gonna worship you.

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    In fact, Job will do to you, God, the very thing that he feared his kids would do, and that's curse you.

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    All right, verse 12, it says, "And the Lord said to Satan, 'Behold, all that he has is in your hand.

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    Only against him do not stretch out your hand.' So Satan went out in the presence of the Lord." I got to tell you, this is an astonishing verse to me.

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    It's a hard pill to swallow, that Satan would come and make such an accusation and God goes with it.

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    That the Lord would actually say, "Okay, he's all yours, but don't touch him." the verses six through 12 here, we get a peek behind the curtain.

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    We get a little glimpse of heaven and what happened before actually, what prompted Job's suffering.

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    So the question is, what do we see behind the curtain?

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    We got our peek.

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    What do we see?

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    Oh, we see a lot of things.

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    I just wanted to share with you three things that really caught my attention at this peak behind the curtain.

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    Write these down on your outline.

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    Here's the first thing we see.

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    Number one, heaven takes note of your conduct.

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    You're like, hang on, Pastor Jeff.

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    Don't you mean God takes note of your conduct?

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    Well, sure, I mean, God commended Job's conduct, but did you notice Satan immediately recognized who God was talking about?

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    Here's what I mean.

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    When God says, "If you considered my servant Job," Satan wasn't like, "Hang on, "I'm gonna have to Facebook stalk him." How do you spell that?

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    Well, like job, only we say Job.

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    I'm gonna...

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    Do you have a last name?

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    From us, right?

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    Satan didn't have to do that.

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    Do you notice that?

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    As soon as God said, "Have you considered Job?" Satan, he knew right away.

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    "Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that guy, "the guy that you hedged, the guy that you blessed." Do you know what that tells me?

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    That being godly doesn't make you exempt from suffering.

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    And according to this peak, maybe we say being godly makes you a target for suffering.

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    Do you ever know somebody that just seems like, just every angle of life just seems to be battering them?

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    And I've said this about people, and I'm sure you have too, that you just look at certain people and you're like, man, he is such a good guy.

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    Like, I don't understand why he's always struggling.

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    He's such a good guy.

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    Well, maybe he's struggling because he's a good guy.

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    And again, as a pastor, we hear things like this often.

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    You know, as soon as I got baptized, my life got really hard.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Or as soon as I joined the church, boy, it just seems like the wheels came off of everything in my life.

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    And I've heard this one a lot.

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    That there's somebody that needs to repent from a certain sin, and you counsel them and walk them through that, and they make the decision they are going to turn from this sin.

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    I've had people come back and tell me, You know, as soon as I repented from that sin, my life got so hard.

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    You think that's a coincidence?

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    Maybe God took note of your conduct and Satan is challenging your sincerity.

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    Oh, speaking of sincerity, number two, What do we see behind the curtain?

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    We see that your motive is what really matters.

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    Your motive is what really matters.

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    This is what Satan called into question.

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    Notice Satan didn't say, "How does Job worship you?" He said, "In essence, why?

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    Why does Job worship you, really?" Satan didn't call his conduct into question, he called his motives into question.

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    And do you know what that tells me?

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    That tells me that you can do all the right stuff for all the wrong reasons.

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    I mean, you can look the part, you can go to church, you can serve, you can look like you have your family together, your home's in order, you can be a nice neighbor.

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    but do you really do what you do because you love the Lord?

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    Your motive is what matters.

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    Number three, I'm sure you noticed this.

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    What do we see behind the curtain?

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    Number three, Satan does nothing without God say so.

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    Satan does nothing without God's say so.

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    People give Satan way too much credit.

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    Is he powerful?

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    Yes.

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    Evil?

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    Yes.

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    Sovereign?

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    No.

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    Look, Satan isn't running around willy nilly.

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    Like God's sitting on the throne in heaven going, I wonder what Satan's up to?

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    God's like, I wonder who Satan's going after today.

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    That's not happening.

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    Satan does nothing without God signing off on it first.

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    Do you notice here, God even gives Satan clear, specific parameters.

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    You know what that tells me?

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    That tells me that there is nothing that you and I are going to face that God doesn't sovereignly allow into our lives, and that includes suffering.

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    So this scene in heaven, This wasn't just a wager between a couple of college buddies.

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    This is important.

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    For the entire heavenly host to see, for everyone on earth to see, God is worthy of worship and his worth is not dependent upon his gifts.

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    So here's the real question. How will Job respond? It will reveal Job's heart, as Satan indicated it would, but is Job going to curse God as Satan predicted that he would?

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    Well, let's find out, jump down to verse 20.

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    This is after the four waves of incredible tragedy.

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    It says, "Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.

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    And he said, 'Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return.' the Lord gave and the Lord has taken away.

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    Blessed be the name of the Lord.

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    And all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.

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    After all the loss, his money, his servants, his 10 kids, Job worshiped.

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    Now, of course, he mourned.

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    The Bible tells us that.

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    When it says he tore his robe and he shaved his head, those are signs of anguish.

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    Those are signs of mourning.

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    He wasn't a robot, okay?

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    He mourned.

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    But Job was not angry with God.

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    And Job did not curse God.

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    Your Bible tells you that Job worshiped God.

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    Satan was wrong.

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    And I think my church friends, I think that we read this account of Job and there's something deep down in us that immediately wants to think, "Man, I would love to respond to suffering the way Job responded to suffering, right?

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    I mean, isn't that what you want?

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    Don't you wanna kind of put yourself in a story like, man, if that was me suffering, I'd wanna respond in worship.

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    And my response is, you will.

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    And your response to that might be, how can you be so sure that I will?

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    Well, write this down on your outline.

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    You will worship while you suffer.

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    I am convinced of that.

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    If you meet certain conditions, I guarantee you that you will, the same conditions that Job met.

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    You will worship while you suffer, letter A, if you're a worshiper before you suffer.

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    You see, this horrible day didn't give Job character.

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    It revealed his character.

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    By the way, Job did not know about this whole scene in heaven, this whole exchange between God and Satan.

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    Job didn't know that he was being tested.

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    He was fighting blindfolded.

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    And it didn't matter.

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    Because that's just who Job was.

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    He was a worshiper.

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    And listen, my friends, if you aren't sincerely worshipping the Lord from your heart now, You're not going to be magically inclined to worship the Lord when suffering comes.

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    We all suffer with things.

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    I shared mine.

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    We could bring every one of you up here to share a story.

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    We're all suffering with something, but listen, suffering doesn't make or break you.

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    It exposes you.

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    So you will worship while you suffer if you're a worshiper before you suffer.

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    Letter B, you will worship while you suffer if you remember that you're leaving earth with what you brought.

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    Verse 21, we see that Job already knew the truth that Solomon stated long after Job.

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    I think it's in Ecclesiastes 5, but it goes something like this.

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    You're leaving the earth with what you brought, which is what?

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    Nothing.

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    And that's why Job was able to say, because of this reality and everything he's been blessed with on the earth, he says, "The Lord gave, "and the Lord has taken away." Did you know that every single thing on the earth belongs to God?

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    Did you know that?

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    You better know that.

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    We just spent four weeks talking about that.

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    Don't you pretend now like this is news.

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    Everything belongs to God.

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    And everything he gives me is a gift that I'm going to enjoy for a season on the earth because God might take it away from me or he might take me away from the earth.

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    But I love God, not his gifts.

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    And finally, letter C, if you believe that God has a purpose for literally everything.

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    You will worship while you suffer if you believe that God has a purpose for literally everything.

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    Look at this last verse again, verse 22.

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    It says, "And all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong." Literally, this can be translated, "And all this Job did not charge God with doing that which is empty." Despite everything that was happening, Job says, I know that there's meaning to this.

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    This isn't a meaningless event that's going on.

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    Do you truly believe that God is sovereign?

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    I mean, do you really believe that?

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    Not just sitting in Harvard's Bible Chapel on Sunday morning.

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    I mean, do you believe that God is sovereign?

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    Because I gotta confess to you in some of my weaker moments, when I'm patching a hole in a wall, or I'm cleaning up glass for the umpteenth time, there have been so many times that I have said, this is so senseless.

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    And I've had to repent from that.

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    Because that statement directly contradicts what God's word says.

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    Nothing is senseless.

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    Nothing is senseless.

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    Even suffering.

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    Wait, wait.

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    I want a do over on that last statement.

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    Can I get a do over?

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    We're not streaming this service, are we?

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    Okay.

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    I need a do over on that one.

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    Nothing is senseless, especially suffering.

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    We learned this from Job, spoiler alert, but we learn this reality through the cross of Jesus Christ.

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    Because I imagine if we were there while our Lord was being crucified, there might've been a real temptation for us to see this perfect, sinless, godly man and teach and demonstrate God's goodness and God's power and kindness through miracles and has taught the most profound thing anyone's ever heard. We see this this perfect innocent man being publicly humiliated and executed. I imagine some of us might have looked at Jesus dying on the cross and thought This is senseless. This is so senseless!

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    But was it? Because it was through the death of Jesus Christ that my sin can be forgiven. So I have to look at the cross and see that God took the absolute worst suffering ever endured and turned it into the greatest thing that ever happened. Can he do that with the suffering that I'm experiencing in my life? Our worship team would make their way up. I just want you to bow your heads and close your eyes for a minute, please.

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    And I want you to think of whatever you're suffering through right now.

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    As I said earlier, maybe it's some financial thing, work-related thing, maybe you've experienced loss, maybe it's a health issue.

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    Whatever your suffering is, I just want you to think about it right now, Just take a moment, think about that thing that is causing you so much suffering.

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    And with that thing in mind, I wanna ask you one question.

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    Will you still worship?

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    Heaven is watching.

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    God knows the answer.

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    And Satan is waiting to find out.

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    Now's your chance to show God.

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    So I want you to stand up and we're going to worship and you are going to demonstrate, God, I love you, not just your gifts.

Small Group Discussion
Read
Job 1

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. Have you ever suffered a terrible trial and struggled with the question “Why, God?” As much as you’re comfortable, share your story with the group.

  3. What was Satan’s accusation against Job (see Job 1:9-11)? Why do you think Satan made this accusation?

  4. How would you respond to someone who says, “As soon as I started going to church, everything in my life got so much harder.”?

  5. Walk us through Job 1:21. Why was this Job’s reasoning for blessing the Lord? How can we get there now to prepare us for when we suffer?

Breakout
Pray for one another.