Intentional Wisdom

The Lost Art of Discernment. How Can I Help You?

Introduction:

1 Thessalonians 5:12-15

Discerning Needs in the Church:

  1. The idle need Admonished . (1 Thess 5:14a)
  2. The fainthearted need Encouraged . (1 Thess 5:14b)
  3. The weak need Help . (1 Thess 5:14c)

    Galatians 6:1 - Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness.

  4. You need Discernment . (1 Thess 5:14)
  5. We all need Grace . (1 Thess 5:14-15)

    1. Be Patient .
    2. Be Merciful .
    3. Be Good .

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    Open your Bibles with me please to 1 Thessalonians chapter 5.

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    While you're turning there, many years ago at my former church, there was a season where there was a lady and her husband, they lived right down the road from the church, and they were calling often, asking if I could help them move.

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    I didn't know who they were.

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    And I'm like, you know what, I got a lot going on.

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    And I got a degenerated spine, but she kept calling.

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    And then finally I came to this place, I'm like, you know what, maybe, maybe this is an evangelism opportunity.

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    You know, maybe this is somebody that the Lord is bringing to me to minister his love and I've just been pushing this couple off.

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    So I said, all right, you know what?

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    I didn't really have the time.

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    I'm like, OK, you know, I got a couple hours this afternoon that I'm just going to go help you.

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    And I went down and went into their apartment.

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    And they had a whole giant stack of boxes.

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    And I would say, conservatively, about 80% of them were labeled underwear.

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    And I know you probably have the same question that I have, but I didn't ask.

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    Well, the good thing was they lived on the second floor apartment.

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    There was no elevator, so it was all steps.

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    And I loaded up my little-- I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee at the time, stuffed it as full as I could.

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    And even better was the apartment they moved into was up three flights of steps.

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    But I'm like, you know what?

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    Maybe this is an opportunity, right?

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    Maybe it's not.

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    So after a couple hours of this, I...

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    And by the way, her husband sat there and watched me work the whole time.

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    That's another story.

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    But like, grab a box of underwear and help there, guy.

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    But like, but finally I said to the lady, I said, so do you have a church home?

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    And she goes, oh yeah, we go to church in Worthington.

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    I said, "Oh, why isn't anybody from your church helping you move?" She goes, "Pfft." She goes, "I could never ask my pastor to help.

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    He's too busy." She goes, "And besides, he has a bad back."

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Wah, wah.

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    You know we're called to help people, right?

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    But sometimes, sometimes people can be very hard to help.

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    And sometimes we don't know the best way to help people.

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    Well, fortunately we have God's word to teach us.

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    So let's bow our heads, lock in Keaton.

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    I'm gonna ask you to pray for me and I'm gonna pray for you as we get into God's word together.

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    Did I say that right?

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    Okay, thank you.

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    All right.

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    I'm learning new terminology, so.

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    I'm still working on that one.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, the command is clear in your word, we are to love one another.

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    And sometimes that is hard to figure out exactly how to do that.

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    But it's absolutely necessary.

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    Your son told us that the world will know that we belong to him by the way that we love one another.

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    When Jesus was asked what the greatest commandment was, he told us, "It's to love you, Father." But Jesus also said, "The second greatest is like it. We are to love one another." We're to do unto others the way we would have them do unto us.

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    And Father, I just pray that you would grow us in our affection for you, which will result in true love for one another.

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    Father, let your word minister to us now, we ask in Jesus' name, amen.

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    So this month we've been talking about discernment.

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    And on the first week, we talked about discerning the truth.

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    You have to test everything that you hear according to the word of God.

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    You have to filter it through the word.

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    And then we talked about discerning God's will.

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    Does God have a path for your life that you've got to make sure you stay on?

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    No, it doesn't work that way.

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    You need to present yourself as a living sacrifice.

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    You need to not be conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

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    And you do that, you will know what God's will is.

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    And last week we talked about making the best choices, discerning the best choices, even in gray areas.

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    Now, all of these things, the truth and God's will and choosing what's best, all of those things are really about you and you alone.

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    Your walk, your knowing the truth, your choices.

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    That's kind of a just you thing, right?

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    But you're not alone.

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    And discernment is something that you need in your relationships with others in the church.

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    This isn't just for pastors or elders or small group leaders.

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    This is, you're going to see, this is for everybody.

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    How can I effectively minister to people with problems?

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    You gotta use discernment.

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    You gotta use discernment.

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    Look at 1 Thessalonians chapter five.

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    Look at verses 12 and 13.

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    He says, "We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work.

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    Be at peace among yourselves.

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    Those verses aren't really part of the sermon today.

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    I just like them.

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    Look at verse 14.

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    He says, "And we urge you, brothers." Now, there's a little shift there, right?

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    Verse 12, he says, "We ask you," And verse 14, "We urge you," this is a little stronger here.

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    This is a little stronger.

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    He says, "We urge you, brothers, admonish the idle, encourage the faint-hearted, help the weak." And here Paul is telling the Thessalonian church, hey, you gotta take care of each other.

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    You've got to take care of each other.

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    But you have to do it appropriately.

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    So on your outline, I want you to jot some things down.

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    Discerning needs in the church.

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    How can I help you?

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    Well, we were introduced to three categories of people in these verse, in verse 14 rather.

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    So number one, let's talk about the idol.

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    Number one, the idol need admonished.

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    we're gonna talk about the idol first.

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    The idol need admonished.

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    Let's look at verse 14 again.

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    Very simple today.

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    But he says, and we urge you brothers, admonish the idol.

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    What's the idol?

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    What is the...

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    Actually, that was a military term.

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    And it was used about a soldier who wasn't keeping rank.

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    In fact, the Greeks used this word to describe men who refused to serve their country.

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    Like, well, what does that mean for the church?

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    Well, in church, we call them pew sitters.

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    You guys know what a pew is?

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    I might be showing my age here.

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    You know what a pew is?

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Pew sitters.

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    In the church, he's talking about, another word we could use is lazy.

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    I'm not very good at sugarcoating things.

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    He's talking about people that are attending, but they're not involved.

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    They just warm a seat every Sunday.

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    And then we'll see you next Sunday.

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    They don't serve anywhere in the church, or if they do, it's just minimal effort.

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    And they don't give, right?

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    And occasionally they might, you know, drop $5 in the collection, like I'm gonna give God a tip here, right?

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    Like service was good today, God.

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    I'm gonna give you a tip.

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    And they certainly don't go to small group, right?

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    I don't need small group.

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    Here's the thing about pew sitters.

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    They think that their spiritual gift is criticism.

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    And that's not on the list.

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    Do you know what pew sitters are like?

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    Pew sitters are like those two old Muppets that sat in the balcony.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Now, I gotta be honest with you, total transparency here.

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    When I was a kid, I always wanted to watch the Muppets, but I absolutely couldn't because I was terrified of those two.

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    I was, this is absolutely true.

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    I was terrified.

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    Statler and Waldorf, I was scared to death.

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    And if my family was watching the Muppets, I wouldn't even go in the room.

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    I was scared of them, they were so evil to me.

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    I mean, think about it.

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    They were always off by themselves, right?

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    Away from everybody else.

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    They were never involved with the rest of them.

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    They were detached and by themselves.

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    And all they did was laugh at everyone and make fun of them.

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    "Oh, oh, look at that, frog and a pig, oh." And it was just like, that is so creepy.

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    And I was thinking about them this week because that's what Paul's talking about here.

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    That's the idol.

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    They don't get involved.

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    They just sit back and criticize everything else.

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    You see the idol have a problem and it's a problem of the will.

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    Write that down because that's gonna be so important here.

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    It's a problem of the will.

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    These are people that choose to be consumers, not investors in the church.

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    So what do we do? What do we do with our Statlers and Waldorf's here? What do we do with them?

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    Well, what does he say to do?

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    What does he say to do?

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    Say it.

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    Admonish.

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    Like, well, what does that mean?

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    Well, the Greek literally means to put some sense into it or instruct about inevitable consequences.

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    It just, it means warn them is what it means.

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    Just warn them like, hey, hey.

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    Another word we would use for that is to give them the Dutch uncle talk.

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    Like, hey, you gotta get on board here.

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    I noticed you've been coming to church here for a while.

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    Where are you serving?

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    I'm not really serving.

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    Well, why not?

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    Are you in a small group?

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    No, I don't go to a small group.

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    Why don't you?

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    Because the church is about relationships.

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    You need to get involved.

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    You need to get plugged in.

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    You need to serve in some way.

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    This church is about making disciples, right?

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    We're not entertaining.

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    We're about making disciples, and we believe that a disciple of Jesus Christ worships Christ, walks with Christ, and works for Christ.

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    Are you doing that?

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    Well, I'm not really doing it.

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    Well, you need to start doing it.

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    You need to get involved.

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    You know, with this building project, you know, 11 acres or what, up in New Sewickley, You gotta get involved in serving, in giving.

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    That's a problem in our culture, and it has been for a while, but we live in a culture where it's just, it's a consumer mentality, right?

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    And you look at churches, like you look at, you know, Target versus Walmart versus, you know, Costco, what, it's this consumer mentality that I choose a church based on who has the nicest playground equipment or who serves the best coffee or which service is the shortest, who has the best fog machines.

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    And it's just consumer mentality, but it all boils down to what do I like and what do I prefer?

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    And we get this mindset that church is this place where I go to receive and it's not.

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    Church is a place where you go to give.

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    We are all here to give something.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    See, God gave you gifts.

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    And if you're like, man, man, I feel like I'm a puss it or is he talking about me?

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    I wanna just encourage you.

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    Listen, God gave you a gift to use to serve him.

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    God gave you money.

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    Are you giving back to him?

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    And that's why Paul says, those who are just sitting there, he goes, admonish them.

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    Admonish them.

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    And that's, this is tough because we by nature prefer to avoid these kinds of conversations, right?

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    We prefer to avoid them.

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    Well, what if, like what if they get mad at me?

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    Well, just think about that for a second.

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    What if they get mad at you because you're encouraging them to be serious about their walk with Christ, in the body of Christ?

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    Is that unreasonable?

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    Like, well, what if they just get mad and go to another church?

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    And I would say, well, I hope they don't.

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    I really hope that they step up here because reality is if they just go to another church, they're just gonna be lazy there too.

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    We're trying to encourage people, look, be a disciple of Christ.

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    Step up.

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    Be intentional.

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    Admonish the idol.

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    When we were kids, and you can understand, my mother was just, she was just a music nut.

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    She played the piano and she insisted that all of her kids were musicians.

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    And I had to tell you that so you understand the gravity of this little illustration.

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    but my younger brother was in the band, as we all were, played the same trumpet that got passed down from sibling to sibling.

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    Anybody else have the hand-me-down instruments?

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    By the time he had it, it looked like it's been through some wars.

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    But so he was in the band, and he was just in elementary school.

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    He was just, I don't know, fourth grade or whatever.

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    He was just a little squirt.

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    But one day my mother noticed that he wasn't carrying his trumpet to and from school.

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    And she goes, "Why aren't you taking your trumpet?" And he said as nonchalantly as anything, he goes, "Oh, I quit the band." And again, if you knew my mother, she went through the roof.

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    She's like, "You quit the band?

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    "Well, why'd you quit the band?" Not acceptable, right?

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    She goes, "Why did you quit the band?" He goes, "Oh, don't worry.

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    "They're doing just fine without me." And you know, some people have that attitude about church.

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    You can come here and you can look at the worship team, they go, they wouldn't need me.

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    They're doing just fine.

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    The worship team does need you.

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    You've got a musical talent, step up and use it.

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    Or you can look at, you know, whether it's the preaching or the kids ministry or youth group, like, well, looks like they got all their ducks in a row, they don't need me.

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    That is so wrong.

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    We do need you.

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    And I got to think, you know, this whole attitude of getting back to my little brother here, this whole attitude of all the band's doing just fine without me.

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    What if everybody in the band had that attitude?

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    Right?

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    What if everybody in the band was like, well, I'm not important.

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    But what if that happened in the church?

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    What if everybody in the church was like, well, they don't need me.

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    Being part of a family means that you're responsible for contributing to the family.

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    You are responsible for what happens here.

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    And Paul says the idol need admonished, right?

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    Number two, the fainthearted need encouraged.

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    The fainthearted need encouraged.

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    Now this word fainthearted is an interesting word.

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    Literally it means little sold, S-O-U-L-E-D, little sold.

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    It's somebody that's worried.

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    They're down, they have no joy in their walk.

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    Or we would just say that it's somebody that's discouraged.

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    They know the promises of God and they desperately wanna believe the promises of God.

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    But life circumstances just have them so overwhelmed.

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    Maybe they experienced a loss.

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    Maybe it's anxiety, maybe it's their finances, maybe it's a health issue.

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    Whatever got them there, they're depressed.

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    Like, I just want to throw in a towel.

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    I am just so done with, I just...

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    You see, the idol, we said they have a problem of the will, and the fainthearted have a problem of the emotions.

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    These people are just in a bad place emotionally.

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    Write that down, problem of the emotions.

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    So what do we do with them?

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    Well, look at verse 14 again.

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    He says, "Encourage the fainthearted." Encourage the fainthearted.

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    What does encourage mean?

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    Literally, it means speak by coming close.

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    That's what that means, speak by coming close.

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    And that tells me it's about the relationship.

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    You need, when somebody's fainthearted, when somebody's emotionally at the end, what do they need?

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    They need you to come and put an arm around them and say, "Hey, hey, it's okay.

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    We're gonna get through this.

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    It's all right." You're gonna cheer them on.

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    And I would say this, please hear me.

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    Never, ever discount somebody's feelings.

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    When somebody's like, you know, I'm feeling sad for whatever, Never be like, you shouldn't feel sad.

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    You can't help how you feel.

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    Feelings are just, they're just feelings.

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    You can't help that.

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    So how do you encourage them?

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    Encourage them how?

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    Well, how about a scripture?

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    Maybe say something like, you know something from God's word that's really encouraged me, and then share something that God has used to lift your spirits when you've been there.

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    Maybe that, or maybe say, you know what, can we just stop and pray right now about that?

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    Let's just stop for a second.

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    Can we just right now give this over to God and stop and pray for them on the spot?

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    But you know what I think is almost as big as even scripture and prayer when it comes to fulfilling the command to encourage, is just your presence with them.

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    To say, look, I'm with you, it's okay.

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    Whatever's happening, I'm gonna be right there with you.

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    Some people just need to know that they're not alone.

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    So the faint-hearted, they need encouraged.

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    And then number three, write this down, the weak need help.

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    You're like, where did you come up with that, Pastor Jeff?

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    Well, look at verse 14, he says, "Help the weak." That's, I know, I know.

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    I spent a lot of time on that one.

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    Help the weak.

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    We're laughing, but look, it's so simple.

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    We're like, well, what's weak?

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    What does that mean?

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    Weaker people that are susceptible to sin.

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    It's talking, the weak here is referring to people that sort of fall into the same sin over and over.

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    Do you know anybody like that?

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    Don't point, but you know anybody like that?

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    It's like, we just dealt with this like Thursday and we're back in the ditch again, upside down with the wheels spinning.

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    Like again, they just keep falling into the same sin, Same destructive habits, patterns over and over.

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    Some people, they just get stuck and they just can't break it.

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    Maybe it's overspending.

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    I know I don't have the money for that, but I just can't seem to help it.

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    Maybe it's overeating.

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    Maybe it's losing your temper.

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    Maybe it's looking at stuff on the computer that you shouldn't be looking at.

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    Maybe it's addiction to a chemical of some kind.

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    Whatever. But for the weak, you know, we said the idol had a problem of the will and the faint-hearted have a problem of the emotions.

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    For the weak, it's a problem of the spirit. They're in bondage to sin.

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    They're in bondage to sin.

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    (clears throat)

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    So what do you do for them?

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    What do you do for them?

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    Well, he says very clearly, help the weak.

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    What does that mean, help them?

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    It just means pick them up.

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    That's what that means, pick them up.

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    meaning this, give real help.

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    Real help, not what we typically do in church world.

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    I'll pray for you.

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    We say that to them, right?

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    I'll pray for you.

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    And in the back of my mind, we're thinking, I'll pray for you.

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    And I hope that you never bring this up to me again, right?

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    Yes, pray.

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    Yes, absolutely pray, pray on the spot, right?

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    Let's pray right now.

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    But they need more than that.

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    They need help.

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    They need a plan to get unstuck.

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    Like, well, what does that mean?

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    That means counseling and accountability.

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    That's what that means.

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    And listen, if you're dealing with somebody like this and you're like, man, I'm not sure the best way to help them, then you need to talk to one of our pastors or elders, or maybe talk to that person and say, "Hey, I'm gonna go with you "to talk to one of the pastors or elders." But you're stuck and you need help.

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    Not just the, "I hope it'll get better next week," or, "I'll pray for you, let me know in a month how it goes." You need real help.

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    You need a plan to get unstuck.

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    That's what counseling is.

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    This is what Paul was talking about in Galatians 6, 1, when he says, "Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness." Like, wait, wait, wait, hang on a second.

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    What's the difference between the weak and the idle?

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    I mean, they're both in sin, right?

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    So what's the difference between these two?

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    And the answer is the will.

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    That's the difference.

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    You see, these people want to get to a better place.

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    The difference is the idle are choosing to sin while the weak are struggling with sin and want out.

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    That's why you have to handle them differently.

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    And some people need you to give them a real plan of escape.

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    The weak need help.

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    You're like, what was this sermon series about again?

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    Number four, you need discernment.

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    You need discernment.

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    Did you ever hear that old expression?

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    I'm sure you have.

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    Did you ever hear that old expression?

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    If you're only tools, a hammer.

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    How's the rest of that go?

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    If you're only tools, a hammer, you what?

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    You treat every problem like a nail, right?

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    And that's how a lot of ministry happens in the church.

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    Is people are like, well, you know what?

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    I'm an admonisher, man.

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    I just Dutch uncle.

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    I just tell it to people straight.

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    And they treat every problem like a nail, and that doesn't work.

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    There's some people, they're like, you know what?

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    I'm really good at just helping people, and they just wanna try to help everyone, when some people don't really need counseling, they need a kick.

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    but you can't see yourself as the hammer because not every problem is a nail.

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    You can't have a one size fits all approach.

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    And listen, this is where discernment comes in.

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    Because here, you notice Paul used some very specific wording here.

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    And what he's pointing out under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, what we're learning here is you can't treat every problem the same way.

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    Do you know what I mean?

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    Because you're gonna run into some problems if you do that.

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    Like for example, let's just, we'll move this one aside here.

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    What if we did that?

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    What if somebody was lazy and we'll help them?

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    We're going to give you a plan to help.

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    They don't need instructions.

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    They know what to do.

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    They just refuse to do it.

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    So that ain't going to work.

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    What about the faint hearted?

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    What about the person that's super discouraged?

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    And we come along and we want to admonish them, knock it off.

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    You shouldn't feel that way.

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    You're making everybody else feel bad.

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    We don't like your negativity.

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    Knock it off.

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    What?

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    We're encouraging the weak.

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    Somebody's stuck in sin.

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    They can't break the habit.

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    We just put an arm around them.

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    We're like, "Here, there, everything's gonna be okay." And you walk away and they're like, "Things are not okay because I'm still stuck." You see, that doesn't work, does it?

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    We could shuffle the deck again, right?

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    Just move everyone down a floor.

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    All right, put him up a floor.

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    Does that work?

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    That doesn't work either.

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    That doesn't work either, does it?

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    When somebody's idle, when they're not stepping up and they need to, well, we're just gonna put an arm around them, hey, it's okay, we'll be lazy together.

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    I'll be the Waldorf to your Statler.

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    That doesn't work.

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    They need a firmer hand.

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    Or like somebody's pain hearted, somebody's emotionally struggling, they're against the help.

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    Hey, you shouldn't feel that way.

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    You shouldn't feel sad.

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    Let me tell you why you shouldn't feel sad.

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    I'm gonna give you four spiritual principles to not feel sad today.

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    Like that's not the problem.

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    And you're not gonna help them out of their sadness.

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    But this is one you see a lot in the church.

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    admonishing the weak.

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    I've seen that in this church and please, hear discernment, that's why we're going through this, discernment.

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    I've seen it where somebody's weak and they're like, "Man, I am really struggling with this." And then we're just like, how in the world could you be struggling with that?

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    Shame on you, you should know better.

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    You know what the Bible says, you shouldn't be acting like that.

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    You know, think of your wife and your kids, and you should, and we just like lay the hammer down on them Like, I'm coming to you for help.

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    I'm confessing that I need help.

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    I need you to help me.

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    And we're just like kicking them into the dirt.

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    So you see, that doesn't work either, does it?

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    So maybe, just maybe, this is what I think.

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    I think maybe the Holy Spirit knew something when he said, "This is specifically how you should minister to people." You're like, "Well, how do I know?

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    How do I know?" This is where discernment comes in.

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    This is where you need to ask yourself some questions.

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    You need to, when somebody has a problem, this is what we do in counseling.

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    You need to ask yourself, is this a rebellion issue?

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    Is this some kind of a rebellion issue?

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    They know what to do and they're, I'm not doing that.

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    Well, we got a problem of the will.

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    Is it an emotional issue?

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    Their emotions are just kind of ruling them right now.

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    Okay, then maybe they're in the faint hearted category.

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    They in bondage of some kind.

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    Well, if they are, if there's some sin habit they can't break, then they're in the weak category.

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    And if you don't use discernment, Listen, you're not going to help anyone.

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    In fact, I would suggest to you, if you're not going to use discernment, you're going to do more harm than good.

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    So listen, you aren't a hammer.

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    Every problem isn't a nail.

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    You and I need discernment.

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    And finally, number five, we all need grace.

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    We all need grace.

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    These last commands are for everybody because I got to deal with your issues and you got to deal with mine.

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    So look at verse 14 and 15, the rest of it.

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    He says, "Be patient." Be patient with them all.

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    Verse 15, "See that no one repays anyone, evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.

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    We all need grace.

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    Three things are very quickly right, obvious.

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    Be patient.

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    Be patient.

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    Yeah, these three categories are different, right?

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    But they all got one thing in common, right?

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    They all got one thing in common, and that's this.

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    They all need patience.

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    They can bother, they can annoy, they can frustrate.

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    And I just want to encourage you in the Lord, take a deep breath and remember that we all need patience and we all require patience.

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    Let her be, be merciful.

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    Be merciful. Paul reminds us, see that no one repays anyone evil for evil. Right? Sometimes you get hurt in the church. Have you noticed? You don't want it to happen, but it does.

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    There's slander, there's accusations, there's insults, and the way of the world, the way of the flesh is to retaliate.

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    You hurt me, I'm gonna hurt you back.

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    You know, paybacks are not our responsibility.

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    Do you trust God to handle that?

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    God said he would handle that, right?

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    Do you believe God?

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    Well, then you be merciful.

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    And lastly, do good.

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    Look for ways to love people, regardless if they deserve it.

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    You're like, regardless if they deserve it?

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    Yeah.

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    Do you know what that's called?

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    It's called grace.

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    Have you heard of that?

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    Do you know what grace is?

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    Grace is when a rebellious self-centered sinner has chosen a path to hell over acknowledging his holy God.

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    And God sends his son to die in the place of that rebel and to raise from the dead, to take away sin and to give the promise of eternal life.

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    That's grace.

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    And we should be people that are familiar with the concept.

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    And that's why we should be looking to do good to one another.

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    I don't know, it kind of cracked me up a little bit because I imagine there were people that read this and they were like, it says, seek to do good to one another.

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    And it's like, well, surely if Paul knew my experience, "No, he doesn't mean so-and-so.

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    "I love this last race." He goes, "And to everyone." Just in case you're looking for some little loophole, everyone gets grace.

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    You're the Oprah of grace, okay?

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    Grace for you and grace for you, and everyone in attendance today at Harvest Bible Chapel gets grace.

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    our worship team would make their way back up.

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    Just want to remind you that we're all works in progress.

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    And we've all, at one point or another in our walks, we've all been here to some degree for some amount of time.

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    We've all been there.

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    And someone has been patient and merciful and good to us.

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    We all need grace.

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    We need discernment, not just in our personal walks, we need discernment in dealing with people.

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    like, well, man, what if I fail?

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    Well, I want to encourage you by saying the only way you would really fail is if you just gave up on someone.

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    People have problems, so let's meet them where they are.

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    Let's love them in the Lord, and let's discern the right way to get them back on track. Let's pray. Father in heaven, we thank you again for your word, because so often we are so foolish and so just wayward. We insist on and doing things our way.

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    God, I thank you for this body of believers that you have assembled here and that you are growing here.

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    And I just ask, Father, for my brothers and sisters that through patience and mercy and grace, we would learn to use discernment to best meet people where they need met.

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    Father, we can't do this without the wisdom from your word.

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    We can't do this if your Holy Spirit isn't at work in our hearts with your word.

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    So again, Father, have us be faithful unto you and faithful to each other.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read 1 Thessalonians 5:12-15

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. How can you tell the difference between the idle, the fainthearted, and the weak?

  3. How can you specifically carry out the command to admonish someone in the church who is just attending and watching, but not getting involved (v14)? What would you say to that person?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

The Lost Art of Discernment. What is Best?

Introduction:

Philippians 1:9-11

1 Corinthians 6-8-10 Principle: Five Questions to Ask To Make the Best Decision in a "Grey Area":

  1. Is it Permissible ? (1 Cor 6:12)

    1 Corinthians 6:12 - "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful.
    "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything.

  2. Is it Beneficial ? (1 Cor 6:12)

    1 Corinthians 6:12 - "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful.
    "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything.

  3. Could it get me under its Power ? (1 Cor 6:12)

    1 Corinthians 6:12 - "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful.
    "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be dominated by anything.

  4. Could it cause a brother to Stumble ? (1 Cor 8:12-13)

    1 Corinthians 8:12-13 - Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

  5. Is it Glorifying to God? (1 Cor 10:31)

    1 Corinthians 10:31 - So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

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  • 00:48-00:56

    My baby boy is 18 now, but when he was in preschool, I never thought he would make it this far.

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    When he was in preschool, he came up every day with reasons why he couldn't go to preschool.

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    You got somebody like that in your home?

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    He would say things like, "I can't go to preschool today." Why not?

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    It burned down.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    I can't go to preschool today, why not?

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    Oh, they canceled it.

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    Oh, there was a little bit of a problem with these things he came up with.

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    I was in charge of the preschool.

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    And I think if it would have burned down, somebody would have told me.

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    But there was a season, it was a daily struggle, daily.

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    And one day I was driving him to preschool, we're on 422 heading to Butler, and all of a sudden I hear,

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    (imitates car engine revving)

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    I said, "What was that?" He said, "My pants ripped." I pulled over and turned around.

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    He had the jeans that had little holes in them.

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    He took them and (imitates ripping) completely ripped them top to bottom.

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    So I called Aaron and I'm like, what am I supposed to do?

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    Because you know what's gonna happen if I bring him home.

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    He's gonna rip them pants every day.

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    But I can't take him to preschool.

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    (audience laughing)

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    Looking like the Incredible Hulk.

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    I'm like, what can I, what am I supposed to do here?

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    My wife, brilliant as always, she said, I get an idea.

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    She said, there's actually a load of clothes that the kids outgrew that I put in the trunk to take to Goodwill.

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    Get him a pair of pants out of those.

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    So that's what I did.

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    I got in the trunk and I got him a pair of pants that he outgrew and he went to preschool that day, walking around.

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    He looked like Kramer from Seinfeld.

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    And do you know he never ripped a pair of pants after that?

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    But you know, he didn't think it through.

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    He made, shall we say, not a great choice.

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    And he learned.

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    And right now we're in this series on discernment.

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    And I hope that we are learning because we're talking about growing in your walk.

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    We're talking about growing in maturity and your walk with Christ, your sanctification.

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    And the Bible says, we've already covered that, That means you have to grow in discernment.

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    You have to.

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    A couple of weeks ago, we talked about discerning the truth and we saw, John told us, don't believe everything you hear.

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    You've got to test everything.

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    And last week we talked about discerning God's will.

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    Does God have a secret path for me to be on?

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    No, no, no, it doesn't work that way.

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    The Bible tells us to be a living sacrifice.

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    Don't be conformed to the ways of the world.

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    Let the word of God renew our minds so that we're transformed.

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    And we necessarily will make choices that honor God.

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    But what does that look like?

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    How does that process go from just a concept that we sort of introduced last week to actually making that happen?

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    How can I make choices that best honor God?

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    That's what we're gonna get into today.

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    So let's just bow our heads for a moment.

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    I'm gonna ask that you would please pray for me to communicate God's word clearly.

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    And I will pray for you to receive God's word eagerly.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father, we've already seen and studied that we need to be transformed by having our minds renewed.

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    And I pray that's exactly what happens right now.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

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    Philippians chapter 1, verse 9.

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    Paul says, "And it is my prayer that your love may abound more more with knowledge and all discernment." Stop there. Discernment. What does that word discernment mean? Well, the Greek word here for discernment means sharpness of perception.

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    You're like, OK, so what am I trying to sharply perceive?

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    Well, look at verse 10.

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    He says, so that you may approve what is excellent.

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    There it is.

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    I want you to have discernment so you may approve what is excellent.

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    says, "I pray, church, that you are capable of evaluating and determining and choosing the things that are excellent." And I've told you before, and I'm going to tell you again, that is my biggest concern for this church.

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    That's why we're doing this series.

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    But my biggest concern for this church is discernment.

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    And doctrine, first and foremost, of course, that you're not believing everything you hear, but you're testing everything.

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    But also my concern for this church and discernment is in the choices that you make.

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    Because discernment is knowing the difference between good and evil.

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    We talked about that, right?

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    Absolutely, you gotta know what's from God and what's not from God.

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    Absolutely, but when it comes to making choices, you've noticed that not everything is black and white, is it?

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    Much like my closet, there are lots of shades of gray.

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    And maturing is growing in not only choosing good over evil, but it's also learning to choose what is best over what is good. Right now somebody's thinking, "Wait, wait, why does it matter?" Well, hang on, hang on a second, Hang on.

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    Isn't it just okay to choose what is good?

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    Why do I have to be so concerned with choosing what is best?

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    Why do I have to shoot for excellence in my choices?

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    That's a really good question.

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    We'll get the next phrase, because there's your answer.

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    It says, "And so be pure and blameless." Why does it matter that I'm seeking to choose what's best over just what's good?

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    He says to be pure and blameless.

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    Do you realize what he's talking about here?

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    Pure and blameless.

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    Let me use a couple of other words to describe the concepts here.

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    This is about your integrity, and this is about your reputation.

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    Pure and blameless, your integrity and your reputation.

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    That's why it should matter because those are two things, your integrity and your reputation.

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    Those are two things that should matter to you more than anything.

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    Now this word for pure, this is a really interesting word in the Greek.

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    Do you know what it literally translates to?

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    Sun judged, S-U-N, sun judged.

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    That's the word for pure.

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    Like, what do you mean?

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    It's taking something out into the sun to evaluate it.

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    Because you see, in those days, you would have merchants that would sell these pots, right?

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    And obviously if you're buying a pot, you wanted one that was intact, right?

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    But as pots often do, they would break and what the merchants would do is they would take a really fine layer of wax, real tiny layer of wax in the seams of the crack to hold it together so they could sell it that way because you made more money if it was intact.

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    And if somebody just came, oh, this is intact, not knowing they just bought a broken pot.

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    So how did you know if the pot was intact if it had the wax seal holding it together, it would have to be sun judged.

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    You would take it out into the sun and hold it up, and you could see those fine seams.

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    Because you wanted to make sure that your pot that you were buying was pure.

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    You would say, yeah, it's pure.

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    It's been sun judged.

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    That's what that means.

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    Interestingly, this is where we get the English word "sincere." Do you know what "sincere" literally means?

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    It's actually a Latin word.

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    But I'm sharing this because it comes from the exact same context.

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    The word "sincere" means without wax.

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    Because if a dealer had a pot that he knew was intact, wasn't broken, and he wasn't trying to fool anybody by holding it together with wax, he would put a sign in front of that pot that would say this pot is sincere.

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    Meaning it's without wax.

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    Meaning it is authentic.

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    And you're like, all right, okay, Jeff, now I know what to do next time I go to Walmart to buy a pot.

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    What's the point? Here's the point. Don't be a phony. That's the point. Don't be a phony.

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    Christian, you are a child of God, and that identity should make you concerned about your integrity. The Bible says you're an ambassador of Christ. That should make you concerned about your reputation.

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    Don't be a phony. Don't pretend.

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    Listen, don't pretend to be one way in church when you are a different way the other six days a week.

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    Don't pretend to be one way in here with their Christian friends and then you're another way when you're at work, when you're at school, when you're at home.

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    It's about your integrity.

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    I heard one preacher this past week put it this way.

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    It really stuck with me.

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    He said, you know, when you make bread, you can't just throw all the ingredients into a pan and throw it in the oven and pull out bread.

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    Doesn't work that way.

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    Why not? Because you have to stir the ingredients together, don't you?

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    You have to make sure that all of the ingredients are touching each other.

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    And in the same way, you need to make sure that every part of your life touches every other part.

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    Meaning this, what you believe should be consistent in every single area of your life, at work, at school, at home, at church, it's all the same.

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    That's integrity.

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    You want to be sincere?

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    You wanna be not known as a phony?

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    Well, this is about the choices that you make.

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    You see the flow, look at verses nine and 10, look at the flow.

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    He says, Paul's praying that you have knowledge and discernment so that you approve what is excellent so that you're pure and blameless.

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    In other words, Paul says, have discernment so that you can make the best choices so that you're sincere, you're authentic.

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    It's about your choices.

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    And the first choice that you have to make, I will use discernment when I make choices.

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    And I will evaluate my choices, not just simply in terms of what's right and what's wrong.

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    I'm shooting for what is excellent.

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    I'm shooting for what is best. And if for some reason your integrity and your reputation, if those things aren't enough motivation for you to be concerned about making the best choices, we'll give you another one. Look at the text. He says, for the day of Christ filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God. There's your motivation. We want to be pure and blameless for the day of Christ. Someday you're going to stand before Jesus Christ. And the only thing that's going to matter on that day is your sincerity. Meaning this, you might trick us into thinking that you know Jesus Christ, but you haven't fooled Him. And on that day, on that day, don't you want to be able to say, "I love you, Lord. I received the gift of salvation that you've given through your death and your resurrection. I received that. And Jesus, you saw how I sincerely tried to honor you by the choices that I made.

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    That's why discernment is so important.

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    But as we said earlier, you're going to face things that are gray areas.

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    You're gonna face things that, you know what?

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    The Bible doesn't specifically address this thing.

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    How do I make the best decision?

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    The gray areas is what we're talking about here, right?

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    Situations where it's hard to tell what is right.

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    We gotta be clear, we're talking about gray areas here.

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    We're not talking about issues of, should I steal from work?

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    Oh no, the Bible's pretty clear about that one.

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    Or, "Hey, I received Jesus. Should I get baptized?" That's not an issue because the Bible's very clear about that.

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    Yes, we are commanded to be baptized in response.

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    Or, "I'm facing kind of a gray area, Pastor Jeff.

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    Is it okay to murder my boss?" Like, no, no, that's not a gray area at all.

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    We're talking about areas that don't have a book, chapter and verse that I could take you to and say, "Well, you absolutely should make this choice "because of what God clearly said here." You hear these all the time.

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    Maybe some of you are struggling with them right now.

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    Maybe for some it's like, "Well, is it okay?

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    "Is it okay for me to drink alcohol occasionally?

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    "I mean, I know what the Bible says about drunkenness, "but what if I occasionally drink alcohol "and I don't get drunk?

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    "Is it okay for me to smoke cigarettes?" The Bible doesn't specifically say, "Thou shalt not smoke 'em if you got 'em," or whatever.

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    Is it okay to listen to secular music?

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    Is it okay to buy lottery tickets?

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    I mean, the Bible doesn't say, Thou shalt keep on scratching, whatever that weasel says on those commercials.

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    And you're like, "Hang on, hang on, Jeff. Doesn't the church have..." What, it's not a weasel?

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    What is it?

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    Oh, it's a groundhog.

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    Well, I guess that makes more sense.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Not a zoologist.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    I have groundhogs in my yard.

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    They don't wear shirts and play the lottery.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Well, you might be like, hang on, Jeff.

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    Doesn't the church have rules about these things, these gray areas?

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    Doesn't the church have rules?

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    And my answer to you is absolutely not.

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    Do you know why?

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    Because that is called legalism.

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    If I start giving you the list of rules of here's what you can do and here's what you can't do, when it's things that are not covered in God's word, that is legalism.

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    We absolutely do not have rules about those things because these things are matters of conviction.

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    So what do you do?

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    How do you take principles from God's word to make the best choices?

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    I just want to share with you today something that my pastor, Pastor Bob taught me many years ago.

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    I've heard him teach us and it always stuck with me and I want to commend this to you.

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    But on your outline, the first Corinthians six, eight, 10 principle, when you're facing a gray area, here's five questions to ask to make the best decision in a gray area.

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    All right, we'll have the verses on the screen for you, but I encourage you to take some notes.

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    we're gonna be jumping out of Philippi into the Corinthian culture.

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    Now the Corinthian church had a lot of issues.

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    Have you read those letters?

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    They had a lot of issues.

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    But you know, one scenario they faced was this, should I eat meat that was sacrificed to an idol?

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    That's really not a great area I've had to counsel people on, but let me catch us up to speed here.

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    The Greeks and the Romans, the pagans, the pagan Greeks and Romans, they believed that there were evil spirits everywhere.

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    And they had this really goofy belief that what these evil spirits would do is possess animals that were to be eaten.

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    And then when you ate the animal, That was how the evil spirit got inside you.

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    All right?

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    So they had this belief.

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    Well, that meat's got, maybe that meat has an evil spirit.

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    And if I eat it, now the evil spirit's gonna live in me.

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    So what they would do is they would sacrifice that animal to their gods, their Mickey Mouse pantheon of gods.

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    They would sacrifice the animal to the gods.

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    And they believed that that got the evil spirit out of the steak.

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    Well, then they would have their pagan festivals.

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    They'd have their big pagan parties where they would eat this meat that has now been freshly exercised, but whatever they didn't eat at their parties would end up down at the market.

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    And everybody knew, yeah, that meat was sacrificed to a pagan god, and now they're selling it.

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    So the issue the Corinthian church faced was this, is it okay for Christians to eat that kind of meat?

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    And there were two camps.

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    You had people that came out of that background, maybe they were pagans that came to Christ and they knew all of this stuff and they didn't want anything to do with the old lifestyle, the old pagan lifestyle.

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    So they were like, "You can't eat that.

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    No, no, no, no, no, you can't eat that.

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    Do you know what that was used for?

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    That was used for pagan worship.

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    You can't eat that.

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    Like if you're a believer in Jesus Christ, you shouldn't have anything to do with that." That was one camp.

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    And then you had another camp that was like, "Look, a hamburger is a hamburger.

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    The boogeyman doesn't live in the hamburger.

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    It's just meat, like, come on.

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    So you had these two camps.

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    So what do you do?

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    What do you do?

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    Because again, again, there's not a, thus saith the Lord on that.

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    So what do I do?

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    Paul talks a lot about this.

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    Gives us some principles here.

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    Encourage you to write this down.

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    I encourage you to keep these notes.

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    Stash them in your Bible, because when you're facing a gray area, this will help you make the decision that honors the Lord.

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    All right?

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    Five questions, principles drawn from 1 Corinthians.

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    Number one, first question you have to ask is this, is it permissible?

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    This thing that I want to do, this gray area, is it permissible?

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    That comes from 1 Corinthians 6, 12, where Paul says, "All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful.

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    All things are lawful for me, but I will not be dominated by anything.

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    I wanna focus on the phrase, all things are lawful for me.

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    And see that came up a couple of times and many scholars believe, and I lean this way as well, that that was actually a slogan that they threw around.

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    It was something that the Christians said, I'm free in Christ.

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    So everything's permissible for me.

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    I can do anything that I want because I'm free in Christ.

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    And I know Christians like that, even until today.

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    I can do whatever I want because I'm free in Christ.

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    And I would say this, yes, it is true that if you are truly saved, there is nothing you can do to lose your salvation.

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    That is true.

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    But do you know what else is true?

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    is freedom is never an excuse to sin.

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    And according to God's word, we are called to submit to God, obviously, but also we are called to submit to the governing authorities.

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    So long as the government does not command us or mandate us to sin, to do something God forbids or to not do something God commands.

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    So long as the government isn't calling us to sin, biblically we are to submit to the governing authorities.

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    So the first question you have to ask yourself in a gray area is this, is it permissible?

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    Would the Bible allow this?

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    And is it legal according to our laws?

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    Is this permissible?

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    That's the first question.

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    Second question is, is it beneficial?

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    Same verse, all things are lawful for me.

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    Look at this next phrase, but not all things are helpful.

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    Paul recognized that.

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    Not everything is good for me.

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    Good for me how?

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    Not everything is good for my body.

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    This is the body that God has given me to navigate through this life.

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    Not everything is good for the health of this body.

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    Not everything is good for my mind.

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    We talked about that last week.

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    You have to keep your mind renewed.

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    Not everything is good for my mind.

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    And not everything is good for my spirit.

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    So the second question you have to ask yourself is, in making this decision, Is it something that's going to be good for me?

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    We're gonna say it in the negative.

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    Is this something that could be harmful to me in some way?

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    Is it beneficial?

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    Third question is this, could it get me under its power?

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    Same verse, all things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful.

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    All things are lawful for me.

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    "But I will not be dominated by anything." And that last phrase, "I will not be dominated by anything.

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    "Could it get me under its power?" We've spent time talking about addiction of any kind.

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    And what addiction really is, ultimately, is a worship disorder.

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    Jesus Christ is to have all of your affection and all of your attention.

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    And when you have an addiction, something else is getting that.

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    It's a worship disorder.

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    And for the Christian, we say, I'm not a slave to anything or anyone except Jesus Christ.

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    So the third question is, is this something I could get addicted to?

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    Could it get me under its power?

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    The fourth question is this, "Could it cause a brother to stumble?" And here we jump to 1 Corinthians 8, verses 12 and 13, Paul says, "Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ." Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

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    So the fourth question is this, this decision that I'm thinking about making, this gray area, how is my decision going to affect other people?

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    Could it be a stumbling block to others?

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    And right now, if you're like, who cares?

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    I don't care what other people think about me.

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    I don't care.

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    I would say that's an extremely immature attitude.

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    There is nothing godly or wise or loving with an attitude like that.

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    Do you see Paul's attitude?

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    Again, you had people that came out of this pagan background and they're Christians and they're like, "Oh no, no, you can't eat that, you can't eat that." So what are you gonna do?

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    Walk in eating one of these, you know, boogeyman burgers or whatever, and like, "Oh, I'm free in Christ," right in front of this guy?

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    That would be like showing up at an AA meeting with alcohol.

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    Like, why would you do that?

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    Don't you care that somebody struggled in this area and they're trying to get on track and they're walk with Christ, and you're just gonna launch your freedom or whatever?

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    Paul's like, look, if I thought for a second that eating meat in front of somebody would cause him to stumble, Paul's like, I'm a vegan.

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    As horrible as that is.

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    He says, "I'll never eat meat." So could this decision that I'm making hurt a weaker brother or sister?

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    Could it cause a brother to stumble?

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    And the fifth question is this, is it glorifying to God?

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    And there he jumped to 1 Corinthians 10 31, where he says, "So whether you eat or drink, Or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

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    That's the last and ultimately most important question.

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    Can I do this unto the Lord?

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    Can I stop and thank God and praise God and say, "God, this is done to your glory.

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    God, I'm doing this to honor you." You do that before you make your decision.

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    Can I do this to the glory of God?

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    Do you have a gray area that you're struggling with?

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    Well, there's your answer.

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    I'm not going to tell you what to do.

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    You let God's word and God's Holy Spirit bring you to conviction.

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    I got a couple of minutes here, let's try it.

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    You wanna try it?

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    Yeah, let's try it.

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    Let's do, we talked about the, we talked about that groundhog playing the lottery, right?

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    What about for Christians?

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    Is it okay for a Christian to play the lottery?

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    And I'm not going to tell you what to do, but let's run it through the test to see what's the best choice.

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    Is it permissible?

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    Yeah.

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    Do you have to be a certain age to play the lottery?

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    I probably should have looked that up.

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    Don't you have to be a certain age?

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    You're not like sending your preschooler with his ripped pants to buy lottery tickets, are you?

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    18?

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    I don't know.

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    OK, so if you're an adult-- I'm talking to the adults now.

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    If you're an adult, it is permissible.

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    You are legally allowed to buy a lottery ticket.

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    Okay, check.

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    How about the next question?

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    Is it beneficial?

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    Is it beneficial for you to play the lottery?

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    And you're like, it will be if I win.

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    And I'm like, because that happens all the time.

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    Lottery is just a tax on people that are bad at math.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Is it beneficial?

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    Eh.

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    I would say no, but you wrestle with the Lord or not yourself.

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    How about, we'll go to the next question then.

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    Could it get me under its power?

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    It's a form of gambling.

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    Is gambling addictive?

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    Well, I think it is, but that's not even my opinion.

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    Do you notice every time they have one of them casino commercials, gambling problem, call this number.

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    Like, what?

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    Like, you're advertising something, and then you're immediately cutting yourself off at the knees, right?

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    Why do they do that?

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    Because it's addictive.

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    So I would say, hmm, hmm, maybe this is helping me make this decision on if I should buy the lottery ticket.

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    What about, could it cause a brother to stumble?

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    What do you think?

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    Could it cause a brother to stumble?

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    If somebody came into your house and you're scratching a lottery ticket, could it cause them to stumble?

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    What do you think?

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    Yes or no, what do you think?

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    Maybe, yeah, maybe if they have a gambling addiction, I don't know.

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    Even that is just like, eh.

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    Then number five, is it glorifying to God?

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    I'll tell you what my conviction is on that, is this absolutely isn't because you're taking God's money that he gave you to try to win more.

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    So you see, that kind of helps you make the decision, doesn't it?

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    How about another one?

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    Is it okay for me to go to the bar with my friends?

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    Like, look, my friends are going to the bar, I don't drink, but is it okay for me to go to the bar with my friends?

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    Just to hang out with them.

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    Be a witness, all that.

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    Well, ask the questions.

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    Is it permissible?

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    Yeah, sure.

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    Is there an H for that?

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    Yeah, it's permissible.

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    As an adult, I am legally allowed to go into a bar.

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    Is it beneficial?

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    Is it gonna be good for me?

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    Is it gonna be helpful for me in any way?

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    Well, if I had a problem with drinking, that's going to kind of lead us to another question here but maybe not.

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    I don't know.

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    Or even if I say, "Okay, you know what?

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    It's not going to harm me, so I'm just going to move on." Number three, could it get me under its power?

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    Well, if I had a drinking problem and I'm putting myself in a place of temptation, when Jesus told me to pray, lead me not into temptation, see some wisdom maybe in avoiding that, if that's my situation.

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    Still kinda on the fence here maybe, right?

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    But then you get to number four, could it cause a brother to stumble?

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    Hmm, what if I'm involved in like addiction recovery ministry and these guys find out that I'm hanging out at the bar?

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    The number five is glorifying to God.

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    Like I'm bar hopping in the name of Jesus.

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    Again, you gotta come up with the conviction, right?

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    What's another area?

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    We got a minute, shout one out.

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    You got one?

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    You got a gray area?

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    What's that?

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    Dating somebody?

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    Can we be more specific?

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    Well, I think you absolutely should use that, but I think maybe something more specific would be helpful on answering the questions here.

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    Oh, I got a bunch of them here.

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    How about this one?

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    Is it okay to watch an R-rated movie?

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    Is it permissible?

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    Yes, if I'm of age.

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    Is it beneficial?

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    Oh, hmm, hmm.

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    What kind of stuff is gonna be pumped into my head here, right?

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    Could it get me under its power?

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    If I have an addiction for immoral, sensual things, and that's what's being portrayed in the movie, I'm feeding that monkey and I shouldn't.

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    Could it cause a brother to stumble if somebody walked in and saw me watching this movie?

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    Would I be embarrassed by that?

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    Would I be okay with saying, "Hey, sit down and watch this with me." Is this glorifying to God?

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    See?

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    Any gray area that you face, ask these questions and ask the Holy Spirit to clearly convict you on not just what is right and wrong, but on what's an okay choice, but what's the absolute best choice that I can make.

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    I'd like you to bow your heads as the worship team makes their way forward.

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    And I just wanna pray over you church.

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    The same thing that Paul prayed for the Philippians.

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    He said, "It is my prayer that your love may abound more and more." And Father, I echo this and say, God, I pray that this church would be a church of love and forgiveness and brotherly affection and self-sacrificing service and all the things that you've called us to in Agape love.

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    Father, I pray that we would grow in love for one another as a church.

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    As Paul prayed with knowledge and all discernment, Father, I pray that you would fill the minds, my brothers and sisters here in this church, with the knowledge of your word, and with that, Father, that we would have discernment to be able to approve what is excellent.

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    Father, I pray that we wouldn't just fly through doing whatever's in front of us to moment it, but we would stop and evaluate, as your word calls us to do, to test everything, to discern what is the most excellent choice.

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    Because, Father, we wanna be pure and blameless for the day of Christ.

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    Father, remind us that we are going to stand before you someday.

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    And we wanna be people of integrity.

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    Not putting on a show, not making people think that we make good decisions when secretly we don't.

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    But the power of your Holy Spirit, Father, the wisdom of your word, permeates and saturates every single area of our lives.

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    Be glorified, Father, through the choices that your children make.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Philippians 1:9-11 and 1 Cor 6:12, 1 Cor 8:12-13, 1 Cor 10:31

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. Why is it important to discern what is best, not just what is “right and wrong”? See Philippians 1:10.

  3. Name a “grey area” you’ve personally struggled with. How does the 1 Corinthians 6-8-10 principle help you come to a conviction in that area?

Breakout
Pray for one another.


If you are struggling with discernment in the form of an addiction. Check out the 5-part series where the church faces this series need head-on. Don’t hesitate to reach out to the pastors or elders of the church to get help!

The Lost Art of Discernment. What is God's Will?

Introduction:

What is God's Will for Me? (Romans 12:1-2):

  1. Alter Get On It. (Romans 12:1)

    Psalm 116:12 - What shall I render to the LORD for all his benefits to me?

  2. Bible Get In It. (Romans 12:2a)

    Joshua 1:8 - This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

    Psalm 1:2-3 - his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night. ...In all that he does, he prospers.

  3. Choices Get Making Them. (Romans 12:2b)

God's Will for His People:

  1. It Is God's Will That I Am Saved. (1 Timothy 2:3–4)
  2. It Is God's Will That I Am Filled With The Holy Spirit. (Ephesians 5:17-18)
  3. It Is God's Will That I Am Morally Pure. (1 Thessalonians 4:3)
  4. It Is God's Will That I Submit To The Government. (1 Peter 2:13-15)
  5. (Sometimes) It Is God's Will That I Suffer. (1 Peter 4:19)
  6. It Is God's Will That I Am Thankful In All Circumstances. (1 Thessalonians 5:18)

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    I would ask that you would please pray for me to be faithful to communicate God's Word and I will pray for you to have a heart open to receiving the Word of God today. Let's pray. Father in heaven we believe that your word is like a lion that we don't need to defend it we just got to let it out of the cage and it'll take care of itself. So I'm praying Father that that's what's happening here over these next several minutes that your Word is just let loose and we trust your Holy Spirit to work with the Word in ways that maybe we can't fully comprehend, but we know it works and we believe, Father. Glorify your name through your word we ask in Jesus name.

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    And all of God's people said, amen.

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    Open up your Bibles with me please to the book of Romans chapter 12.

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    And we're in this series called intentional wisdom, intentional because nothing important happens by accident, right?

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    Intentional wisdom.

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    And this series is the lost art of discernment.

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    Last week, we talked about discernment And we saw John saying, "Stop believing everything that you hear.

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    Test everything, use discernment." Speaking of, look at Romans 12.

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    We're just gonna look at two verses today.

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    Paul writes, "I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

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    Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may, oh, there it is, Discern.

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    Discern what?

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    You may discern what is the will of God.

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    What is good and acceptable and perfect.

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    So this passage is about discerning the will of God.

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    And that's what we're gonna talk about today.

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    the will of God, because quite honestly, a lot of Christians, when it comes to understanding the will of God, they get a little weird, a little weird about that.

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    Like, what do you mean?

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    Well, let me give you a couple of examples.

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    When I was in Bible college, there was a guy that was dating this girl and she broke up with him.

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    He showed up at her dorm room, pounding.

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    God told us that we're supposed to be together.

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    God told me, God told me that we're supposed to be together.

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    Hopefully God told her to call the police.

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    But God told him.

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    Did he?

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    And then fast forward, one of my very first counseling sessions, a lady had come to the church office And I said, "Well, what seems to be the problem?" And she said, "I'm just," she goes, "I don't know what to do "because I feel like if I come to church, "maybe a friend is gonna call me at home "and I'm gonna miss that call "and I'm gonna miss the opportunity to help my friend.

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    "But if I stay home waiting for a call from a friend "that might need my help, I don't come to church "and I miss maybe what God wants to teach me at church.

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    "I don't know what to do." And listen, that might sound goofy or silly or trivial to us, but this poor woman was in tears because she was so concerned that she was going to miss the will of God for her life.

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    Had another person who's a friend of mine whose daughter got married to a guy that, not great, let's just leave it at that, right?

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    Not a great guy.

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    And I was shocked when he said, you know what?

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    maybe my daughter should just get a divorce.

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    And I was shocked to hear this man say that.

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    And he said, because, you know, maybe it just wasn't God's will that she married this guy.

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    I'm like, is that how it works?

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    In any of these scenarios, and I can give you a lot more, but in any of these scenarios, is that how the will of God works?

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    (congregation murmurs)

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    What is God's will?

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    You know, we face situations as Christians where we just wanna know what God wants.

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    Maybe you're buying a house and you're thinking, is it God's will that I buy this house?

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    Is it God's will that I live in this neighborhood next to these people?

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    How do I know this is God's will?

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    Or maybe you're trying to decide on a college to go to.

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    What is God's will?

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    Like, where should I study?

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    Like, how do I know where God wants me to go to school?

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    Or maybe it's a career choice.

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    Like, what does God want me to do with my life in a vocational sense?

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    Or how do I know what he wants me to do?

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    Or maybe it's choosing a church.

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    How do I know which church I should be a part of where I'm serving God?

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    What if I'm in the wrong church wrong ministry and what like, am I gonna show up in heaven someday and God's like you completely missed where I wanted you. Like is that possible? Or what about, oh here's a big one, but the person you're supposed to marry. You know some people think there's exactly one person out there that I'm supposed to marry and boy I sure hope I find her. Because what if I marry the wrong person? What if I marry the person that wasn't God's will for me to marry.

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    And then we have kids, and maybe these kids weren't supposed to exist.

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    And now we've completely taken the apple cart of God's will and turned it over.

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    What about if you have a spouse that's unfaithful?

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    What does God want me to do?

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    What is God's will in this situation?

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    What if you have a loved one on life support?

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    And it has fallen on you to make the decision.

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    If it's time to turn off the machines and let nature take its course.

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    Serious issue, isn't it?

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    How do I know God's will?

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    How do I know God's will?

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    Is my life mapped out?

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    Like God has this path for me, and I gotta make sure that I stay on that path so that I'm always in God's will.

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    That leads to the question, well, what if I get off that path?

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    Can I get back on?

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    Or what if I put myself in a situation, like a marriage situation or a career situation, or it's just not so easy to jump back on a path.

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    Have I forfeited what God wants for me?

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    Is that my life?

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    Just a waste because I forfeited what God wants for me.

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    Well, the Bible says so much about God's will.

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    And as followers of Jesus Christ, we should want God's will more than anybody.

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    So the question on the table is, how do I know what it is?

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    Well, we have a lot of techniques that we use to try to determine God's will.

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    These aren't great ones, by the way.

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    I'm gonna give you a few that we use that aren't great techniques for learning God's will.

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    One is feelings.

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    Some people say, you just gotta trust your heart.

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    That's a dumb idea.

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    You know what the Bible says about your heart?

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    It's deceitful above all things.

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    you gonna trust that liar?

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    True or false?

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    Plus when it comes to feelings, look, feelings change constantly.

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    They, feelings change.

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    One minute you're like, I love this woman more than anything in the world.

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    The next minute you're like, I really don't wanna be around her.

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    I mean, not me, I'm speaking for somebody else.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    You knew that.

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    But you can't just say, well, okay, I, this is God's will because I have peace about it.

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    I have peace about it.

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    Do you know who else had peace?

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    Was Jonah sleeping on the boat?

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    He had total peace about the decisions he was making in life, running from God.

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    Peace about it's not a great indicator.

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    And oh, by the way, Proverbs 3 tells us to lean not Oh yeah, yeah, you've heard that one.

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    Lean not on your own understanding.

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    Another way that people try to determine God's will is the old do nothing.

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    We're just gonna let things happen.

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    We'll just let it happen.

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    I'm not gonna make a choice.

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    We'll just let things happen and I'm just gonna sit back and not do anything.

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    Oh, that's not great.

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    For some people, it's a flip a coin, right?

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    You flip a coin.

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    Like, because in the Bible, didn't they cast lots?

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    Right, that was a way in the Bible that they determined God's will, they cast lots.

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    There's a problem with that though.

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    Do you realize that stopped when the Holy Spirit came?

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    They stopped casting lots.

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    Choosing Matthias, that was the last time that happened.

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    And then the Holy Spirit came and they never did it again to determine God's will.

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    But we're Christians, we do Bible stuff, right?

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    And so we lay out a fleece, right?

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    You ever heard somebody say that?

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    That's how you determine God's will, you lay out a fleece.

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    And I would suggest to you, that's not a great idea.

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    Why?

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    Because if you study that story with Gideon in the Old Testament, when he laid out the fleece, there was a problem.

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    He already knew God's will.

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    It was crystal clear to him.

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    So him laying out a fleece was demonstrating doubt, not faith.

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    He ends up commanding God what to do.

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    And by the way, if it was such a great way to determine God's will, why didn't it satisfy Gideon the first time he did it?

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    He's like, yeah, can we do that again?

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    Laying out a fleece, not a great idea.

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    Like, so what is God's will?

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    Well, we just read it.

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    We just read it in Romans 12, one and two.

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    So here's the sermon, here's the short version.

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    Listen very closely, please.

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    God's will is not about what you do.

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    God's will is about the kind of person that you are.

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    That's what Paul says in Romans 12, one through two.

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    I'm gonna say that again.

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    God's will is not about what you do.

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    God's will is about what kind of person you are.

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    And if you'd like me to unpack that a little bit, that's what we're gonna do.

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    On your outline, what is God's will for me?

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    And for the outline here, we made it as easy as ABC, all right, because it is this easy.

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    Don't go banging on any dorm room doors, all right?

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    Don't get all sideways wondering if you're in the right geographical spot.

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    That's not how it works.

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    God's will is not about what you do.

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    It's about the kind of person you are.

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    Let's unpack that.

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    This is exactly what he's saying here.

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    ABCs, all right?

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    Number one, what is God's will for me?

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    Alter, get on it.

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    Alter, get on it.

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    This is where it starts.

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    Look at verse one.

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    This is where it has to start.

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    What's God's will for me?

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    I appeal to you therefore brothers by the mercies of God to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

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    Do you know what the Christian life is?

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    The Christian life is one big act of worship.

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    That's what it is.

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    And if you think worship is, oh, that's the music time when Ashley's up here with the crew.

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    And yes, that's part of it.

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    That's part of it.

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    So are the other 167 hours and 40 minutes of the week.

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    It's all one big worship service.

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    That's what your life is.

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    Your life is a worship service, giving yourself to God in response for what he has done for you.

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    Now, Paul spent 11 chapters in Romans laying all this out.

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    And you're like, you wanna review all that?

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    I don't have time for that today.

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    But I want you to notice, he says, he sums it all up with one little phrase right here in verse one.

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    Do you see that?

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    By the mercies of God.

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    Do you know what mercy is?

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    Mercy is when God doesn't give you what you deserve.

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    Do you know what you deserve?

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    We deserve, yes, we deserve hell.

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    That's what we deserve.

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    Because we have this holy creator and we have sinned against him.

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    We have rebelled against him by our words, by our attitudes, by our actions.

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    We are stiff-necked and hard-hearted people.

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    And we have rebelled against our creator when we sin.

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    We deserve hell.

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    We deserve eternal separation from God.

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    God didn't give us what we deserve because he sent his son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross, to take God's wrath on himself in our place.

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    So we have God's mercy.

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    And that's why the psalmist, we echo the question of the psalmist, Psalm 116, verse 12.

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    "What shall I render to the Lord for all his benefits to me?" The only response that we could possibly have is to give God an offering.

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    And that offering is you.

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    Paul's obviously using some Old Testament type language here and we studied a lot of this when we went through the book of Hebrews, but the priest would offer a dead sacrifice.

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    When Jesus Christ died on the cross, he was fulfilling all of the Old Testament, the Mosaic, Jesus Christ fulfilled all of that.

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    We live in a new covenant and you're like, "Well, is there sacrifice in the new covenant?" Oh, yes, there is.

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    It's you.

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    You are the sacrifice now.

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    A living sacrifice, and you have to see your life, your very life as always being on the altar of God.

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    That's why he says, "Present your bodies." What does that mean?

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    Present, it means to offer up.

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    It means to yield.

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    It means to put your body on the altar.

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    And the tense of the word here is over and over.

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    It's not a one-time thing.

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    You giving yourself to God?

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    Oh yeah, I did back in '97, I was baptized, whatever.

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    No, it's over and over.

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    It's constantly saying, God, this is yours.

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    My life, my everything, this all belongs to you.

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    I have a living sacrifice laid upon your altar.

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    So let me ask you, thinking back to the Old Testament, thinking back to the priest, thinking back to the animals, thinking about the animal that was brought to be sacrificed, the sacrifice on the altar, how committed was that animal when it was on the altar?

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    100%, right?

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    It was 100% offered to God.

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    You see, the animal wasn't put on the altar, bloodied and beaten, and then scamper away afterwards and say, "Well, I'm glad that's over.

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    That was rough." That wasn't how it worked.

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    It was wholly dedicated to God.

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    And that is exactly what God requires of every follower of Jesus Christ.

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    It's a full commitment.

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    And he says here, this is your spiritual worship.

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    Interestingly, that word spiritual really isn't the best translation of the Greek word.

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    The Greek word here is where we get the English word logical.

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    What's he saying?

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    saying this, like why in the world would I give my everything to Jesus Christ? Paul's like, "Because it's logical. That's why. Jesus is my Creator. Jesus is my Lord. Jesus Christ saved me from my self-destructive sin. Jesus Christ saved me from the eternal wrath of God so it's only logical and I give everything to Jesus Christ the only thing that makes sense my friends is to be a living sacrifice to see my very life laying on the altar of God saying I belong to him 100%. All of you, are you holding anything back? Your will? Is your will on the altar fully given to God? It's not about what I want, it's about what He What he wants, is that on the altar?

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    What about your money?

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    Okay, wait a second, pal, that's my money.

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    No, it's not, it's God's.

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    Somehow we think we can get on the altar without it.

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    Can you?

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    Not a fully dedicated living sacrifice, it's God's.

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    What about time?

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    Well, I give God this time, but this time is mine.

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    Oh, is that how a sacrifice thinks?

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    No, it's all God's actually.

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    But sometimes if we're going to be quite honest with ourselves and with each other, we just wanna jump off the altar.

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    Look, I understand what I'm supposed to do, but I'm doing this one my way.

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    Hey, you jumped off the altar there, not a great plan.

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    Look, hey, I'm spending my money the way that I want.

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    Hey, you're jumping off the altar there, aren't you?

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    Look, I'll serve in the church, but only when it's convenient for me.

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    That doesn't sound like a sacrifice at all.

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    Or you know what, this person wronged me and I will never forgive them.

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    I've had people tell me this, I don't care what the Bible says, I will never reconcile with that person.

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    That's not how living sacrifices think.

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    Sacrifices don't work that way.

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    I'm on the altar and everything about my life is dedicated to God.

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    So what's God's will for me?

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    That's letter A, altar, get on it.

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    B, Bible, get in it.

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    Look at the first part of verse two.

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    Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.

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    Stop there.

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    Transformed by the renewal of your mind.

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    Why? Why?

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    Because it's simple.

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    What you think determines what you do.

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    And look, you can leave here today and you can be all fired up.

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    You're like, you know what?

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    God's right, I have not given myself as a living sacrifice.

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    I've missed it, you're right, yeah, I've missed it.

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    And you can be all fired up.

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    You know, today's a new day, Mark it down, Father's Day, 2024.

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    I'm a living sacrifice.

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    But listen, listen, if you don't change the way you think, That ain't gonna last till suppertime.

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    You're gonna come off the altar.

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    So I just wanna ask you, what are you filling your mind with?

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    if you're constantly filling your mind with images of a sexual nature, or watching movies to any degree, or Netflix shows or whatever, where it's sexually charged material, and then you're like, "I just, that just seems to be a hangup for me.

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    I just can't seem to," you know, it's because you're filling your mind with it.

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    We recognize this with teenagers, right?

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    Like a lot of teenagers like to listen to angry music.

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    You know, "Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh." Like, "Oh, my parents stink.

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    You know, the principal stinks.

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    the lady of cheat stinks, and this angry, hateful music.

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    And then we wonder why our teenagers have this like chip on their shoulder and angry at the world because they're filling their mind with that stuff.

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    And it's just circulating in.

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    That stuff controls how you think.

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    Don't wonder while you're struggling in certain areas if that's the sewage that you're constantly pumping into your brain.

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    That's why Paul says we have to constantly be renewed by the Word.

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    Listen, the world is constantly trying to conform you into the world's way of thinking.

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    You're like, "Jeff, this sounds like you're trying to brainwash us." I am!

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    because your brain needs washed.

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    Because it's dirty and dirty things need washed.

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    So yeah, I'm brainwashing you.

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    Because the world is constantly polluting you.

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    Think this way, think this way.

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    Here's how you should think.

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    Turn on the TV.

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    Here's how you should think.

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    Turn on the radio.

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    Here's how you should think.

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    Get online.

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    Here's how you should think.

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    That's what the world does.

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    Like, can you be specific?

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    Sure I can.

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    Just look at the last few years.

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    Just look at the last few years.

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    What has the world been teaching you?

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    You need to fear death, right?

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    The whole, remember the whole COVID thing?

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    You need to fear death.

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    And I would watch politicians get on TV and say, don't go outside because that virus is waiting right outside and if you let your guard down, it's gonna get you It's gonna kill you.

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    So constant, constant fear mongering, fear death, fear death, fear death.

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    What does God's word say?

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    Are we afraid of death?

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    But the world is trying to get you to fear death.

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    Why?

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    They want you to conform to the way they think.

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    Another thing, same vein, COVID, conform, conform.

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    Let's, here's another one.

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    Trust the experts, remember that, trust the experts.

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    So that we're, so that we are a culture that's like, I am not thinking for myself, whatever the person on TV tells me has to be true because I have to trust the experts.

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    I'm not an expert, but the guy on TV apparently is an expert and they're saying I should trust the experts.

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    So I'm going to listen to everything that he says.

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    That is the world conforming you.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Oh, here's one.

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    It's Pride Month.

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    Have you noticed?

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    Have you heard?

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    How's the world trying to conform you?

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    You need to accept perversion.

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    What is marriage?

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    It's whatever you want it to be.

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    What is sexuality?

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    It's whatever you want it to be.

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    What is gender?

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    It's whatever you want it to be.

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    That's the world trying to conform you.

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    So the churches are like, let's fly the rainbow flag because we're inclusive.

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    No, that means we've conformed to the way the world wants us to think.

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    That's what that means.

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    The world wants you to think the way they want you to think.

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    Here's another one.

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    Let's kill inconvenient babies.

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    "Oh, when you say it like that, that sounds so bad.

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    The world's not gonna roll it out like that." That is the woman's body.

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    So that should be her choice and her choice alone on what happens with that baby.

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    And if she chooses to end that pregnancy, that is her choice.

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    Well, that sounds so noble.

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    So that our thinking gets conformed to that.

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    But at the end of the day, we're killing a baby.

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    Paul says, "You need to stop letting the world tell you how to think." What's the alternative?

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    He tells us, "Be transformed." That's an interesting word because it's the exact same word that was used of Jesus when he was transfigured.

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    Same word.

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    Be transformed.

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    And that has to happen in your mind.

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    The transformation has to start between your ears.

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    And that means a steady diet of the word of God.

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    You should have regular time in the Bible.

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    And I want to encourage you when you do, slow down.

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    Read to understand.

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    Some people are like, well, I get to get my Bible reading in and you like fly through speed read, didn't get anything, don't do that.

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    What good is that?

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    It's not a race.

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    You don't get a cookie if you get Deuteronomy finished by the end of the month.

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    It doesn't work that way.

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    Slow down, absorb what it says.

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    What's God saying?

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    What does he want me to know?

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    Is this truth reflecting in my life?

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    Is this an example I should follow?

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    Is this an example that I should avoid?

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    Slow down.

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    By the way, I really believe that's the purpose of preaching by the way, because I know in our day, what we do up here seems so archaic.

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    A guy's gonna stand up and talk at us for 30 or 40 minutes or whatever, he's gonna talk.

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    That just seems so archaic.

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    Why do we do?

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    I think one of the big reasons that God ordained preaching is because it causes us to slow down, absorb what did God say?

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    Let's slow down for a minute, people, and look at what God said.

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    Let's just not read through it quickly.

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    Slow down.

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    What did he say?

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    Preaching lets us do that.

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    Preaching lets us say, let's take a minute and look at what it says and let's take a minute and consider how we can reflect this truth in our life.

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    That's why we do expository preaching.

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    So my friends, if you wanna, if you wanna prosper in life, I mean, if you want a life where you're like, I am really prospering, you know the Bible tells you exactly how to do that.

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    Prosper in God's eyes, that is.

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    He says it twice in the Old Testament.

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    He told Joshua in Joshua 1.8, "This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it.

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    For then you will make your way." There it is, prosperous.

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    And then you have good success.

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    And you might be like, oh, okay.

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    And I was like, directed at Joshua.

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    Like, is that really for everybody?

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    Yeah, it is.

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    First Psalm says the same thing.

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    Psalm one says, "His delight is in the law of the Lord.

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    And on his law, he meditates day and night." Look at this.

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    All that he does, he prospers.

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    This is how renewing your mind works.

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    You gotta meditate on the word.

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    Hey, well, what is meditating, right?

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    I sit down and I cross my legs and I do some kind of chant or something.

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    No, no, that's not what that means.

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    Actually, in the Hebrew, the word meditate has to do with cows.

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    What?

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    You know, cows are ruminants, they have four stomachs.

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    So when they eat, they swallow and then, they barf it back up in their mouth and they chew on it again.

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    That's what they do.

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    That's the picture of biblical meditation.

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    As you do that with the word of God, you take it in, but you're constantly chewing on it.

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    You're constantly thinking, what does this verse say?

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    What does it mean?

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    Why did God say it that way?

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    Why did God word it that way?

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    How can I reflect this truth in my marriage or when I go to work?

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    Or how can I reflect this truth?

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    Like, it's just chewing on it.

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    Why would God say that?

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    And what does that mean?

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    You're chewing on it.

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    That's what God calls you to do with his word.

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    Because listen, my friends, Somebody is telling you how to think.

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    Somebody has your ear, but you have a choice.

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    Are you gonna listen to the world or are you gonna listen to God?

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    So alter, get on it.

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    Bible, get in it.

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    C, choices, get making them.

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    Choices, get making them.

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    Look at the end of verse two.

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    He says, "You're gonna be transformed by the renewal of your mind." Look at this, "That by testing, you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

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    By testing, you may discern the will of God." In other words, if you live this way on the altar and in the Bible, you will prove what the will of God is.

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    Just think about it.

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    Speaking of logical, think about it.

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    Only, only a living sacrifice is going to be willing to do whatever God says.

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    But only a renewed mind can test and discern.

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    God's will.

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    And Paul's point here is this, that kind of person, the person on the altar and in the Bible, that kind of person is going to make decisions that honor God.

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    And this should be so freeing to us, church, because you know what this tells me?

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    We don't gotta worry about a path.

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    If you give yourself fully to God and you constantly fill your mind with his word, as a result, you're going to super naturally discern what he wants you to do.

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    But you can't just jump to this part.

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    You can't just jump to the, okay, what'd you learn in church today?

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    Oh, pastor says I should make choices.

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    You can't just jump to that.

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    Get jumped to C without A and B.

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    Because it won't work that way.

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    Like, what do you mean?

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    Here's what I mean.

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    Many years ago, remember last week I told you about people that are like, "Islam's great.

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    It's wonderful." There's one guy, he said he was a missionary.

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    Many years ago, when I was in charge of the prison ministry up in Butler County, this man says, "I wanna go in with you to the prison." So we met this guy.

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    over a breakfast smile at Eaton Park.

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    We met this guy and he was going on and on about how wonderful Islam is, what a wonderful religion of peace it is, and how wonderful, wonderful Islam is.

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    We talked about that last week.

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    What I didn't tell you last week though, is I told the man, you know what?

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    I don't think you're gonna be a good fit with my team that goes into the ministry.

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    I just don't think you're gonna be a good fit.

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    Why?

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    Well, you're teaching some things about a religion that does not confess Christ, as we talked about last week.

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    We only teach what the Bible says.

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    It's just not gonna be a good fit.

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    I'll never forget this.

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    He said, "Fine, you just tell me what to say, "and I'll say that." And I said, "It doesn't work that way." I told him, "Listen, I want someone with a heart to preach the word of God, not somebody with a mouth that can just regurgitate a script." My friends, that's how it is with God.

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    God doesn't give you some script to carry out His will.

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    He wants your heart and your mind.

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    And when he has those, you will do his will.

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    It's just gonna happen.

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    Amen. Can you be specific?

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    Well, God gets very specific.

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    You can trace this through.

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    The Bible says in the New Testament, this is the will of God.

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    And I'm gonna go through this very quickly, actually.

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    We do this in Fundamentals of the Faith.

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    We do a whole lesson on this.

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    So next time Fundamentals of the Faith is offered, signed up, I'll tell you the whole thing, but this is the ultra short version.

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    You trace through the New Testament when it says God's will, God's will.

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    Here's what it says.

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    Letter A, it's God's will that I'm saved.

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    1 Timothy 2.

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    It is letter B, God's will that I am filled with the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 5.

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    It is God's will that I am morally pure.

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    1 Thessalonians 4, "It is God's will that I submit to the government." 1 Peter 2, we explained what that means.

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    Letter E, "Sometimes it is God's will that I suffer." 1 Peter 4, and letter F, "It is God's will that I'm thankful in all circumstances." And you look at that list, and there it is again, Right there.

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    God's will is not about a specific path.

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    God's will is about the kind of person that he calls you to be.

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    So if you're like, man, what does God want me to do?

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    Jeff, can you tell me what is God's will for me?

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    Yes, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt what God's will is for you.

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    He wants you to know Him.

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    He wants you to give yourself to Him.

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    He wants you to allow His word to saturate your brain and your heart.

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    You do that, you'll know what God wants you to do.

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    You bow your heads with me, please.

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    Our Father in heaven, as your people, we want nothing more than to do your will.

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    Sometimes, Father, we confess to you we get a little goofy about that.

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    But Father, I'm asking that we take a hard look at your Word, because you haven't given some secret path that we're trying to figure out.

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    You've told us the kind of person you call us to be.

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    So Father, I pray.

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    I pray once again, Father, we would recommit ourselves to being living sacrifices, wholly committed to you on the altar, all that I am, all that I have, it's all yours.

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    Father, let us change the way we see ourselves.

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    Father, I pray that we would allow your word to renew our minds.

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    There's so much, so much garbage that's being floated out there that we're supposed to think the way the world wants us to think, but you've told us no.

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    No, don't be conformed to that.

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    Father, let your Word transform us.

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    Father, we thank you that what you desire from us isn't following some script, but you want a relationship, and you've provided that through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

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    It's in his name that we pray, amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Romans 12:1-2

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. What ways, right or wrong, have you heard people try to discover God’s Will?

  3. How would you explain to a nonbeliever what it means to be a “living sacrifice” for God?

  4. Confession time: what are some negative things you fill your mind with? In what ways are you filling your mind with the Word of God?

  5. How does being fully dedicated to God, and having your mind renewed by His Word, let you automatically know what His will is?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

The Lost Art of Discernment. What is True?

Introduction:

Hebrews 5:14 - But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

What is True? How to Be Sure You Have the Truth (1 John 4:1-6):

  1. Don't be Gullible . (1 John:1)

    Leviticus 17:7 - So they shall no more sacrifice their sacrifices to goat demons, after whom they whore.

    Deuteronomy 32:17 - They sacrificed to demons that were no gods...

    1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons...

    James 3:15 - This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.

    1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 - Do not despise prophecies, but test everything: hold fast to what is good.

  2. Be Discerning . (1 John:2-6)

Three Questions to Ask About the Preacher:

  1. What is he saying about Jesus ? (1 John:2-3)
  2. Is he glorifying God or glorifying Me ? (1 John:4-5)
  3. How does he respond to the Word ? (1 John:6)

    James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.

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    And our theme of the year is, “Let's Get Intentional”.

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    We started with intentional missions.

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    We talked about intentional faith as we walked through the book of James.

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    And just recently we had intentional hope.

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    What are we waiting for?

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    As we went through the Olivet discourse.

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    And for the next four weeks, The subject on the table is intentional wisdom.

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    And we are going after the lost art of discernment.

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    So let's just bow our heads.

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    I'm gonna ask that you would please pray for me because sometimes it's easier than others.

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    And I'd ask you please pray for me to be faithful to communicate God's word.

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    And I will pray for you to open up your hearts to receive what it is that God has said.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father, we ask once again that your name is glorified through your word, through our response to your word.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Thank you, Father, for everything that you're going to accomplish through your word.

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    We pray in Jesus' name.

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    All of God's people said, amen.

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    Many years ago, I was at a conference, a pastor's conference in Chicago, and there were thousands of people there.

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    And who got up to speak, gave this, You want to call it a sermon, some kind of talk describing how God and Satan were fighting over his soul, which was put in a prison.

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    But you know what was almost more alarming than the guy's message was I was looking around the room at countless hundreds of people sitting there going, "Hmm, Amen.

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    taking notes on it.

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    It's like, what?

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    Then fast forward, I went to a, before this church had launched, we went to a very large church in this area.

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    And the pastor got up and his sermon was, "Every prayer that you pray, the answer is yes.

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    God's always gonna give you what you pray for.

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    And if for some reason you don't get it, well, that's what the parable of the soils is about." Matthew 13.

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    And he completely butchered and hacked the text.

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    I'm like, Matthew, that parable is about evangelism.

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    That has nothing to do with prayer.

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    And this idea that God's just gonna give you everything you want, well, that's nowhere in the Bible.

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    But you know what was almost more alarming than the guy's message?

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    Was the room full of people sitting around, oh, oh, amen, amen.

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    What?

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    Then fast forward a few more years, there was some men's thing gathering down, it was down at Genarostas, and the man got up and he gave some really weird message about the mind of Christ, how Jesus had a human brain and a divine brain, and the human brain of Jesus really wasn't good for anything except maybe geographically navigating around Israel.

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    but then there's this, you know, divine mind of Christ.

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    And it was just, I'm like ready to jump out of my skin, but you know what was almost more disturbing than the message?

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    As I was looking around the room and everybody, "Oh, oh, amen!" Popular preachers, very popular preachers with huge platforms.

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    One several years ago, you remember, his message was how Peter, James, and Paul unhitched themselves from the Old Testament.

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    And I'm sure people hearing that message were nodding and saying, amen.

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    Another very popular preacher with a message.

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    He talked about, you know, Like if a mom has her kid at the playground and the kid falls off the swing and gets hurt, the mom's gonna put him in the car and she's gonna speed to the hospital and she's going to ignore stop signs and traffic lights.

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    She will break the law because she loves her child so much.

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    And he said, that's the gospel.

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    The cross of Jesus Christ, God broke his own law because of his love for us.

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    A very popular preacher said that.

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    Do you even Bible? What are you talking about? Do you know the beauty of the gospel?

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    Is God fulfilled his law through Jesus Christ. But there were people nodding and saying amen. And that's why we're having this series. And it's You're gonna get real uncomfortable for a few weeks, okay?

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    But if you want comfort, buy a Lazy Boy.

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    This isn't about comfort here.

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    This is about allowing the word of God to challenge and change us, okay?

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    Because listen, the church at large has lost its ability to discern.

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    Like, well, what's discernment?

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    Discernment is just simply being able to tell what's real spiritual truth from God versus what is trash doctrine.

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    That's discernment, what's real and what's not.

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    And if we're not careful, church, we're going to lose our ability to discern.

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    My concern isn't for the church at large as much as it is for the church right here.

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    This is where my concern is.

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    My concern is for people here who love the Lord, who love His Word, and who are being led astray by countless opportunities to hear false teaching in our day.

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    Whether it's on the internet, listening to podcasts, your favorite preacher on YouTube, Never has lack of discernment and the danger of false teaching, never has it been a bigger problem because never have we had so much access to it.

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    Do you know what I'm talking about?

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    A little computer you carry around.

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    People have become so unwise in who they follow, who they listen to, who they read.

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    And it's also unpopular now more than ever to point to something and say, no, no, this is wrong.

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    This is false.

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    And that's why it's gonna get uncomfortable in here because we are conditioned that it's bad to say that.

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    Why can't we say something is wrong is false because it makes people feel bad. Let's be honest. You can't say this is wrong because somebody who believes that is gonna feel bad about that. So we just accept everything. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? Let me give you an example.

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    Catholicism.

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    Do you feel that tension in the room?

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Do you feel that?

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    Because there's people right now, they're like, "What's he gonna say?" Let's just be honest.

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    I'm not very good at sugarcoating things, but let's just be honest.

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    It's a sacred cow.

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    But it's also a religion that has countless unbiblical doctrines.

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    Like, you know you can't say that, Jeff, because my grandma's Catholic.

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    I'm sure your grandma's a lovely person.

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    And I have many Catholic friends and family.

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    And you're like, probably not after this sermon, but like, I love Catholic people.

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    But let me ask you, have you ever read the catechism?

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    I have.

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    And in that book of their teaching, there are unbiblical things taught.

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    But we're supposed to ignore that because it might make somebody feel bad if we point that out.

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    Years ago, I taught, it was up at the Butler High School.

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    There was a community religions class.

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    They brought all these different religions in and they had a week to tell the kids, here's what we teach if you come to our church kind of thing.

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    So I'm like, oh, this is primo opportunity to share the gospel, right?

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    But I asked the teacher who I found out the teacher went to a local church.

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    So before class started the one day, I asked her, I said, look, I can ask you a question.

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    I said, do you ever struggle with all these like cults that come in and teach their thing, right?

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    Do you ever struggle with that?

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    She goes, oh no.

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    I'm like, "Oh, why doesn't that bother you?" She goes, "You can't ever tell anybody that they're wrong." And I said, "Well, sure you can.

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    "It's easy.

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    "Don't believe me?

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    "Watch, somebody shout out, help me out.

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    "This is just for funsies.

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    "Show you how easy it is.

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    "Somebody shout out, "'There are many ways to get to heaven.' "Shout it out." wrong because Jesus said that he's the only way.

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    See how easy that was?

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    But listen, my friends, this is exactly what the church is supposed to do.

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    Are you serious about your job?

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    I'm serious about mine.

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    And my job is to help you know Christ and to grow in your walk.

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    And that means to grow in our walks, We have to know what is true and what is not true.

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    And that requires you to do some training.

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    All right, Hebrews 5.14.

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    Can we get this on the screen, please?

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    There we go, thank you.

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    It says, "But solid food is for the mature, "for those who have their," look at this, "powers of discernment trained by constant practice." to distinguish good from evil.

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    That verse says a lot, we covered Hebrews.

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    What was that, last year?

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    But a couple of things to point out there, my friends, growth is not instant.

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    It's not like you come to Christ and poof, instantly mature, it's a process.

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    And to grow in maturity in your walk with Christ, which is why I imagine you're here, I'm gonna grow in my walk with Christ, great, same agenda.

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    And what that means according to God's word is you must train and learn how to discern.

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    Your growth is learning to say what is true and what is false.

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    It's what is of God and what is not of God.

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    God. It's, and it gets even deeper than that. It's this process of making careful distinctions in your thinking. And you're like, does it really matter? Does it Does it really matter?

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    I mean, okay, so people might teach things differently.

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    Like, does it really matter?

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    Well, let me ask you this.

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    If you went to the doctor, because let's just pretend you had the most debilitating migraines.

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    Like you can't even think when these migraines come on.

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    You can't function, you can't work.

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    You can't do anything when these migraines come on.

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    And you go to the doctor and you say, "Doctor, I gotta do something about these migraines.

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    Like, what could it be, doctor?

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    Tell me what's causing these migraines.

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    Is it my diet?

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    Is it something I'm eating?

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    Am I sitting too close to the TV?

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    My mom warned me about that.

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    I mean, could I have a tumor?" Imagine if the doctor just goes, "Well, it could be whatever you want.

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    I'm sorry, what?

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    Doctor's like, it can be whatever you want it to be.

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    As long as you really are sincere in what you believe about that.

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    You would be like, I'm not getting billed for this, am I?

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    Are you serious?

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    But that sounds, that's you're like, that's goofy, right?

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    Well, we acknowledge that there's absolutes in every other area of life, right?

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    math and science, but when it comes to spiritual matters, it's anything goes there, right?

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    And I would say, no.

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    Spiritually, there's a lot more at stake.

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    So you better be sure you have the truth.

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    So in your outline today, what is true?

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    How to be sure that you have the truth.

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    Two points today.

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    Number one, write this down.

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    How to be sure you have the truth.

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    Number one, don't be gullible.

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    Don't be gullible.

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    Look at verse one.

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    John says, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, "but test the spirits to see whether they are from God "For many false prophets have gone out into the world." Don't be gullible.

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    Look at this verse.

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    Okay, first of all, he says, "Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirit." Wait, wait, wait, hang on a second.

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    What's he talking about?

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    How can I test a spirit?

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    Like, what does he mean?

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    Well, this passage, obviously, he's talking about using discernment.

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    You're like, okay, well then why does he phrase it this way?

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    Here's why.

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    Do you realize every religious idea, every spiritual idea out there has one of two sources.

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    It's either from God or it's from Satan.

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    With Satan, we are going to lump in the demons.

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    But every spiritual religious idea has either come from heaven or it's come from hell.

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    It's come from God or it's come from Satan.

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    You remember Genesis chapter three, Garden of Eden, Satan's oldest and most effective ploy is getting people to doubt God's word and then getting people to deny God's word.

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    And it's all through the Bible, God reveals truth, Satan comes along and he counters it with lies.

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    But here's the point, my friends, false teaching, false religion is demonic.

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    So anything that speaks to the spiritual realm, God, heaven, et cetera, it's either from God or it's from demons.

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    Not my opinion.

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    Let me give you a few verses to show you what I'm talking about.

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    This comes up in the Old Testament, actually.

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    Look at the Old Testament law, Leviticus, what, 17, seven.

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    It says, "So they shall no more sacrifice their sacrifices "to goat demons after whom they whore." They thought they were sacrificing to gods.

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    God says they're actually sacrificing to demons.

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    Deuteronomy 32, 17 says they sacrificed to demons that were no gods.

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    There it is again.

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    They thought, yeah, they thought they were sacrificing to a God.

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    There's a demon behind it.

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    The demon behind the false religion.

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    Like, okay, Pastor Jeff, That's so Old Testament of you.

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    But I don't know if you've noticed, but we live in a New Testament.

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    Well, okay, write this one down then.

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    1 Timothy 4, 1 says, "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times, some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of," Oh, what's it say?

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    Go ahead, you can say it.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    So where does the false teaching come from?

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    It's demonic.

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    Like, well, Paul laid it on pretty thick.

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    Is that like really a New Testament thing?

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    Well, remember earlier in the year, James, we went through James, right?

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    James 3, 15.

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    Look what it says.

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    It says, "This is not the wisdom that comes down from above "comparing with God's wisdom." He goes, "No, no, this false wisdom that you subscribe to, he describes it in three ways.

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    It's earthly, it's unspiritual, and what's the last word?

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    It's demonic.

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    So listen, that's why this is so important.

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    False teaching isn't just a little bit wrong, it's demonic.

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    It's pure evil.

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    And that's why John says here in verse one, "Do not believe every spirit." John is saying not every spirit is the Holy Spirit.

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    Don't be gullible.

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    Literally in the Greek, better translated, this is, he's saying stop it.

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    He's saying stop believing everything that you hear.

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    Stop it.

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    Stop believing every spirit.

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    Stop it.

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    Stop it.

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    Stop believing church.

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    Stop believing everything you see on Christian TV.

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    Stop believing everything that you hear on Christian.

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    Stop believing everything you see on YouTubes, every conference you go to, everything you hear in a podcast.

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    Stop believing everything that you hear.

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    And you're like, "Well, Pastor Jeff, they quote scripture." So does Satan, okay?

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    Stop believing everything you hear just because somebody put a sticker on it that says this is Christian.

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    That's what John is saying.

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    Stop it.

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    Stop it.

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    I've been suckered as a young believer.

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    I remember new Christian, we're going back to like 1995, new Christian.

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    And I wanted more than anything to learn and grow in my walk And I remember, I shared this story before, I'm embarrassed to have to say it again.

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    Here we go.

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    I wanted to grow my walk and somehow I subscribed, I found these like Christian magazines.

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    I subscribed to Charisma Magazine.

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    Look, I didn't know any better, okay?

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    Stop laughing at me, I didn't know.

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    but it was article after article of the Toronto blessing.

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    Remember the Toronto blessing?

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    Uncontrolled laughing, barking like dogs.

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    It was a manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

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    I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

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    Something tells me I just wasted a lot of money on a magazine subscription.

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    But I learned very early what John is saying right here.

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    Not everything called Christian is from God.

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    And Satan is not going to make it obvious.

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    He's going to make it sound spiritual.

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    He's gonna make it sound good.

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    But I need to remind you that subtlety and deception is how he plays.

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    Don't be gullible.

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    Look at verse one again, it says, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

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    This is widespread.

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    It's everywhere.

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    You know, I was thinking about this New Testament-wise.

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    There's only one book in the entire New Testament that I could think of that doesn't address false teaching or false teachers on some level, and that's the book of Philemon.

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    I was kind of going through my head, like, it just seems like every book addresses this issue because it is so widespread.

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    We just went through the Olivet Discourse.

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    Remember what Jesus said, Matthew 24?

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    "Beware of false Christs, false prophets.

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    "See that no one leads you astray." And you're like, "I'm ready, Pastor Jeff.

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    "I'm ready for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

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    "I'm ready for the Mormons.

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    "I'm ready for the Christian scientists." I'm like, "Those ones are obvious." I'm more concerned about the ones that present themselves as biblical.

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    That's who concerns me.

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    1 Thessalonians 5 says, "Do not despise prophecies, "but," look at this, "test everything.

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    "Hold fast to what is good." Listen, my friends, you have to test everything.

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    Every spiritual teaching you hear, you have to test it.

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    And right now somebody's like, "Oh, I get it, Pastor Jeff.

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    Okay, okay.

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    So just believe you then, right?

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    Just believe you." And I would say, "Yeah, believe me." This church is committed to preaching God's Word straightforwardly.

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    No gimmicks.

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    But I strongly encourage you to test every single word that I say.

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    Everything that's preached in this church, whether it's me or Taylor or one of our elders, you have to ask yourself, "Is that really what the Bible says?" After every sermon, you should be able to go home, open up the text that we covered, You should be able to look at the text and say, "Oh, I see why he said that.

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    It's right there.

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    Oh, okay, that makes sense.

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    All right, I see why he said the things that he did.

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    It comes right from there." Don't be gullible.

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    Any teaching that you hear must be tested with the word of God.

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    Number two, don't be gullible.

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    What is true, how to be sure you have the truth.

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    John says, don't be gullible.

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    Stop believing everything.

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    Don't be gullible, but number two, be discerning.

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    Be discerning.

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    Okay, so John's like, test the spirits.

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    Like, great.

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    How do I do that?

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    Can you be a little more specific to test the spirits. And John's like, "Coming right up on your outline. Three questions to ask about the preacher." And when I say preacher, we're including the podcaster or the YouTuber or anybody that you're listening to that is making some kind of spiritual claim. These are three questions to ask about the preacher. Even preacher standing right here. Okay? We're not exempt. Test everything. First question, letter A. What is he saying about Jesus? What is he saying about Jesus, look at verse two.

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    He says, "By this, you know the Spirit of God." Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

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    Stop there.

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    The first question you have to ask anytime you hear spiritual teaching is what is he saying about Jesus?

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    Because according to the Bible and the incarnation, Jesus Christ is 100% God and 100% human.

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    The Bible teaches that God became a man to die as a man for man.

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    And without getting that doctrine right, nothing else that we talk about here really matters.

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    Then he says the same thing in the negative.

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    Look at verse three.

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    He says, "And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God." Okay, here it is, easy test.

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    They don't confess Jesus Christ as fully God and fully man.

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    They don't confess Jesus, then they're not from God.

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    By the way, that's a common trait of heresies, of cults, denying the deity of Jesus Christ.

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    Kind of a meatball test.

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    It's easy.

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    What do they say about Jesus?

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    Well, like in Islam, Jesus is just a prophet of God.

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    Jesus was a Muslim.

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    Jesus is second only to Muhammad.

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    In Hinduism, Jesus was an empowered incarnation.

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    He was murdered.

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    He wasn't resurrected, but he was reincarnated.

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    In Hinduism, I'm sorry, in Judaism, Jesus is the most damaging of all the false messiahs.

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    In Buddhism, the modern Buddhists have said that Jesus was Buddha reincarnated.

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    He was an enlightened man.

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    The Jehovah's Witnesses, Jesus isn't God.

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    He was in pre-incarnate form, pre-existent form in heaven as Michael the archangel.

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    Mormons say that Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.

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    Scientology says that Jesus is not God, but it doesn't really matter who or what Jesus is because we don't need him.

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    Man is good enough.

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    We can free ourselves.

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    You always have to examine what is being said about Jesus.

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    Look at verse 3 again.

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    He says, "This is the Spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming, and now is in the world already." You see, whatever is not from God, whatever does not line up with His Word, John says, is the spirit of the antichrist.

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    Like antichrist, that sounds like, isn't that like the book of Revelation, End Times, eschatology stuff?

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    Yeah.

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    Revelation talks about the last antichrist.

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    But John says, this spirit is already at work in the world right now.

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    It's all around us.

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    So many times I've heard people professing Christians.

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    One guy was even a professing missionary.

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    But I've heard so many people applaud Islam.

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    You've heard it.

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    People say, "Well, Muslims just call God Allah, but it's a wonderful religion." Well, they don't confess Jesus Christ.

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    So what does that make Islam?

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    Well, according to verse three, that makes Islam not from God and the spirit of the antichrist.

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    So any teaching you hear, and right now, if you're like, I ain't never come back to this church again.

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    Okay, the next church you go to, listen real closely to what they say about Jesus.

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    That's what John's telling us.

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    First test. First question to ask about the preacher.

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    What they say about Jesus, does it line up with what the Bible says?

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    Next question, letter B.

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    Three questions to ask about the preacher. Is he glorifying God or glorifying me?

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    Verse 4, "Little children, you are from God.

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    and have overcome them.

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    For he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world." I love that, little children.

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    How would you feel if I called you little children?

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    Try that sometime, not today.

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    But I love this because John is feeling the, Maybe he's feeling the pressure here, right?

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    Gotta relieve some pressure a little bit by dropping in a word of encouragement right here.

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    Verse four, "Are you a true believer?

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    Well, listen, if you're a true believer in Christ, the Holy Spirit is going to protect you from being lied to." And John talks a lot about that, especially in chapter two of 1 John.

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    This is why your walk with Christ is so important.

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    Your time in the word is so important.

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    your time privately praying alone on your face before God.

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    That's why these things are so important.

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    The Holy Spirit will protect you from being lied to.

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    But another big question you need to ask about the preacher is their message glorifying God or is it glorifying me?

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    Look at verse five.

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    It says, "They are from the world.

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    Therefore they speak from the world and the world listens to them." Stop there.

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    Like, wait, with these false teachers, with all these cults and just this trash doctrine being spewed, like why in the world does the world listen to them?

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    How do these people that are preaching these false messages, how are they filling, some of them are filling these massive auditoriums?

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    Well, John tells us right here, in many cases, they're just telling people what they wanna hear.

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    You've heard those messages, right?

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    The sermons go something like this.

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    And listen, if somebody cuts this as an edit, I'm going to be really upset.

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    But their sermons go something like this.

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    God wants to give you everything.

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    Everything that your heart desires, that's what God wants to give you.

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    Listen, you have the power to forge your own destiny.

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    You have the power.

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    And if you just believe God is going to make you whole and he's going to make you wealthy and you're a child of the king and he's expecting you to live like that.

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    And it is never the will of God that you suffer.

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    Oh, and then you sprinkle in a few random out of context verses in a sermon like that.

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    And the world hears that, and they're like, oh yeah, that's the kind of religion that I want.

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    Money, physical health, God giving me what I want.

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    Like who's not gonna sign up for that?

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    But it's not true.

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    We put the spotlight off of Jesus, and we put it onto me.

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    And self-centered teaching attracts self-centered people.

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    And we measure success with numbers and we somehow equate that with authenticity.

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    It's not.

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    It's a huge red flag.

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    When the focus of preaching is our benefit, not God's glory.

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    All that might be attractive to you, but it's not attractive to God.

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    So I asked about the preacher, is he glorifying God or is he glorifying me?

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    Then letter C, can we handle one more?

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    Letter C, three questions to ask about the preacher.

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    How does he respond to the word?

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    How does he respond to the word?

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    Look at verse six.

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    John says, "We are from God." Whoever knows God listens to us.

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    Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.

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    By this, we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

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    Okay, whoever knows God listens to us.

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    Obviously he's talking about those who preach the word.

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    And John is saying that when the word is preached, the people that really love God are going to respond to the word of God.

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    But then he says, whoever is not from God does not listen to us.

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    You don't belong to Jesus if you don't listen to his word.

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    But this is one way to discover a false teacher.

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    Show them what the Bible says and see how they respond.

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    Have you ever done that?

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    I think many, many years ago, I had these Mormon missionaries coming to my house and I was trying to reach them with the gospel.

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    And one time we sat down and we were talking and I was trying to share with him what the Bible says about Jesus and salvation.

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    And the one missionary, he kept going back to this is what we are taught in Mormonism and this is what we believe.

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    And I said, "Why do you believe that?" Getting down to the source of authority question, right?

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    I'm like, "How do you know that the Book of Mormon is true?" And he said, "I know it's true, because when I read it, I got a burning in my bosom." That's the thing.

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    That's the thing, look it up.

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    I'm like, you know what?

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    I had a burning in my bosom last week, but it was because I ate too many curly fries.

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    How was a burning in the bosom the authenticator of truth?

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    (congregation laughing)

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    But he didn't wanna hear what God said.

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    You see, that's the point.

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    How does the preacher, how does the missionary, how does this religious teacher respond to the word of God?

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    Another time, Aaron and I were talking to this lady who was part of the Jehovah's Witness cult.

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    And I was talking, they believe that heaven and earth are eternal.

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    And I was talking to her about how, no, God's going to burn up a new one, right?

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    And my mic cut out, did you hear that?

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    God's gonna burn this one down and make a new one.

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    Wanna make sure you got that.

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    He totally is.

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    Well, anyways, the lady was like, "No, he's not." I'm like, "Well, that's what the Bible says." She goes, "The Bible doesn't say that." So I open up the Bible.

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    I'm like, "Look, right here." And I showed her and she goes, Well, I've never seen that before.

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    I'm like, oh, well, I'll let the Lord know that if you haven't seen it, it might not be true.

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    So many times with so many different cults, I have tried to show them what the word of God says, and it's always the same result.

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    I don't really care what that says.

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    This is what our doctrine teaches.

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    That is a huge red flag.

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    How do they respond to the word of God?

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    Our worship team would make their way back up to the platform.

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    Listen, my brothers and sisters in Christ, the way you respond to the word of God says everything about where your heart is.

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    And that is absolutely true of false teachers too.

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    This is exactly why God gave us a book.

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    Do you realize the brilliant wisdom of that?

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    Because anybody can just walk around and say, "Hey, God told me this.

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    "Hey, guess what God told me.

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    "Hey, hey, God told me this." Anybody can do that.

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    So God gave us His Word in written form so that we can read it, and so that we can understand it, and so that we can compare what we hear with it.

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    And we can know for sure what's from God.

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    and what's not. So would you please stand and we're going to worship the living Word of God.

Small Group Discussion
Read 1 John 4:1-6

  1. What was your big take-away from this passage / message?

  2. Have you ever believed wrong doctrine at some point in your life, and God’s Word corrected you? Explain.

  3. How can you tell if someone quoting the Bible is quoting it accurately?

  4. How would you approach a friend or a fellow church / SG member who is listening to a Podcaster/YouTuber that you know is teaching unbiblical things?

Breakout
Pray for one another to grow in discernment.


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