Why Don't You Grow Up?

Introduction:

Why Don't You Grow Up?
(Philippians 3:12-4:1)

  1. Growing up involves Exertion . (Phil 3:12-14)
    1. Why we must grow: Jesus has Ahold of us .
    2. How we must grow: By Forgetting and Striving .
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  1. Growing up involves right Thinking and careful Imitation. (Phil 3:15-18)

    See: Matthew 19:16, 17b-22   |   1 Corinthians 6:12   |   1 Corinthians 10:23

  2. Growing up involves glorious Transformation . (Phil 3:18-21,4:1)

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    Good morning.

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    As Jeff said, please turn to the book of Philippians chapter 3.

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    And if you don't mind, I'm going to preach myself this morning.

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    I think I need to hear this message more than anybody else.

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    So let's pray and we'll dig in.

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    Our gracious Father, oh, you are so great and so good.

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    You have given us all things in Jesus Christ, and your great desire for us is that we grow up into Him, into all the fullness of the stature of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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    I pray that you will help us to do that.

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    We will concentrate every thought this morning, every fiber of our being on your word and what you have to say to us, and that you would plant your word deeply into our hearts, and He would transform us into the image of our Savior, Jesus.

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    And it's in his great name we ask this.

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    There are things people said to me when I was a boy, when I was growing up, that have stuck with me my whole life.

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    One of them was my cousin Claudia would say to me, "Richie, you're just like your father." And I was like six or seven.

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    I was just starting to become aware of the larger world.

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    I had really no idea what she meant.

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    What do you mean I'm just like my father?

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    Well, I need to back up a little bit because I was the baby of the family.

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    My siblings were all a decade or more older than I was.

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    All of my cousins were older than I was.

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    By the time I was about six or seven, they were all in their late teens.

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    They were all adults.

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    And so they knew my father.

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    And my cousins really loved my father.

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    They knew him, they knew his propensity to tease and to play practical jokes and to just kind of have fun with them.

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    And so when my cousin Claudia would say, "Richie, you're just like your father." But she was really saying, "You little stinker, you're just like your father." And I didn't understand that until later in life, But if someone were to tell me today that you're just like your father, I'd take that as a compliment.

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    When I got a little bit older, when I was in middle school, there's a lot going on in middle school, things are changing, and I started noticing girls, and I tried to interact with them, probably by being just like my father and teasing.

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    And the usual response was met with, "Spronk, you're so weird.

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    "You're so immature.

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    "Why don't you grow up?" Well, these girls, they could say that because they were mature.

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    They were mature 'cause they wore makeup now and they wore jewelry and they were dating boys in the 10th grade.

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    Well, I'm barely 13.

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    I don't know what's going on.

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    Of course I'm immature.

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    I'm still trying to figure things out.

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    You know, one day I'm playing with my Legos and my Hot Wheels, and the next I'm looking at these mature girls.

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    It was hard, and true, it was probably weird, right?

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    The world was a weird place.

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    I grew up in the turbulent '60s, you know, with the riots and all the counterculture.

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    And I came of age in the 1970s with the philosophy of it feels good, do it, right?

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    It was the '70s, the decade of free love and easy drugs and a lot of political turmoil.

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    And I gotta tell you, all the world's influences, TV and movies, easy drugs, pornography, peer pressure, alcohol, it just kind of produced a toxic fog that made it very difficult to know what grown up like. And I wanted to grow up. I read self-help books. I read all the advice columns in the papers.

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    I read horoscopes. I got advice from friends and advice from my frat brothers when I got in college.

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    And the result of all of that was I just kind of flailed around doing adult things, but I just sunk deeper and deeper into sin and immaturity and weirdness.

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    You know, all you kids growing up today, you've got it easy, right?

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    Because the world's not at all weird anymore.

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    But I was on the struggle bus when it came to growing up, and in the midst of those struggles, praise God, I was found by Jesus.

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    So when I became a believer in my early 20s, I found I had a new challenge.

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    Well, now I've got to grow up spiritually.

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    and he becomes spiritually mature.

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    Well, I'll tell you for many years, as a young believer, I thought, oh, I gotta grow up as a man in the world, and I also gotta grow up spiritually, as though those two were entirely separate concepts.

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    Because Bethany and I moved around so much in our marriage with the army, we never put down roots anywhere.

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    I never had an opportunity to develop close friendships, develop a mentor with anybody, someone who could guide me into understanding that growing up spiritually meant growing up as a whole person.

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    And I would even say it's not just physical maturity or emotional maturity and spiritual maturity, I would just say it's maturity, growing up and becoming mature.

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    The Apostle Paul knew something about becoming mature.

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    He had a very clear idea of what it meant, what was involved in the end result, and he knew it took a great deal of effort.

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    So our first point this morning is, growing up involves exertion.

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    We're gonna take a look at a bit of background on Paul.

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    In chapter three, Paul rattled off all of his accomplishments, or as he phrased it, his confidence in the flesh.

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    Look at verse five.

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    He said he was circumcised on the eighth day of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, as to the law of Pharisee, as to zeal, a persecutor of the church, as to righteousness under law, blameless.

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    In modern terms, we would say Paul was born into privilege with a respected pedigree.

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    He was raised in the most elite Jewish circles.

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    He was educated in the Jewish equivalent of an Ivy League school.

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    He was certain that all of his ideas were right.

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    He was respected, he had authority, he had prestige, influence, and above all, he had a lot of passion.

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    He was on the fast track to greatness in the Jewish world until Jesus took him down more than a few notches on the road to Damascus.

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    You see, following that encounter, Paul took a different view of his life's accomplishments.

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    They're all worthless.

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    And moreover, it required disciplined exertion to purge them from his life.

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    Take a look at verse 7.

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    He says, "But whatever gain I had, I count it as loss for the sake of Christ.

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    Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.

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    For his sake I've suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him." He says it's all a loss because of their surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.

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    He uses some pretty strong language here too.

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    When he says all of his accomplishments were rubbish, he doesn't just mean some Kleenex or some apple peels in a wastebasket.

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    doesn't quite get at what Paul said. The Greek word is only used here in the New Testament and it refers to human excrement and not in a polite or juvenile way. At the very least the Philippians would have understood Paul considered all of his accomplishments to be crap.

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    Did he just say that in church?

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    Yeah I did because that's as polite as I can be to get at what Paul is trying to say here? It's all crap, and there's a sense of revulsion about it. Paul is using strong language to impress on his readers that he is revolted by his former life. For Paul, it provokes a gag reflex when he thinks about it. So Paul has dug a giant cat hole and he's buried it all. He says, "In order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ. The righteousness from God that depends on faith, that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and share in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death." Wow, that captures our idealized image of Paul, doesn't it?

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    After all, that's why we call him Saint Paul. He knows Jesus so much better than we do and he's just so far above us. We're right to put him on a pedestal.

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    I mean just as he was a Hebrew among the Hebrews, he became the hardest-working apostle. He was the most outstanding apostle. He was always the brightest. He was always the best of the best. Right? That's how we think about Paul. We can't ever be like Paul. That's Look at verse 12.

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    "Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.

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    Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it, but one thing I do, forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

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    In his exhortation to exertion, Paul tells us two things, why we must grow and how we must grow.

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    So let's look first at why we must grow.

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    We must grow because Jesus has a hold of us.

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    Paul says he makes every effort to take hold of his goal because Jesus has taken a hold of him.

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    What does it mean that Jesus has taken a hold of Paul?

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    Well, to be taken a hold of in the Greek has several meanings, such as to learn or understand something or to grasp something in our mind as a concept.

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    But Paul is saying something stronger than that.

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    It can also mean to obtain something, to appropriate a thing or make something one's own.

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    But Paul is saying something even stronger than that.

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    Or a third meaning is to seize, to overtake or overwhelm.

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    In effect, Christ has swept Paul up by the scruff of the neck and yanked him out of the septic tank and he's embraced him within himself as his own.

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    Think about, I'm sure you've all watched the videos, right?

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    Of these soldiers coming home from combat and they come down the runway into the airport or into the gym or wherever They see their family and they just embrace them.

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    And they're not gonna let them go.

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    That's how tightly Jesus Christ has a hold of you.

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    Are you returning the embrace?

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    Are you exerting every effort to lay hold of Christ?

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    Second, Paul tells us how we must grow.

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    By forgetting and striving.

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    Look at verse 13 again.

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    "But one thing I do, forgetting what is behind "and straining toward what is ahead." Sounds like there's two things here, doesn't it?

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    Forgetting and striving, two different things.

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    But really, they're so closely intertwined, it's all one effort, it's all one action on Paul's part.

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    But we're gonna look at each separately.

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    First, there's the forgetting part.

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    And I'm really glad Paul mentions this, because although Paul mainly mentioned all of his credentials, he may have also had in mind what he did with those credentials.

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    You may recall Paul once zealously took hold of believers and had them in prison, and in some cases put to death.

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    I think Paul had a great deal to regret and be ashamed of.

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    His past could have been a huge, Huge weight that held him back from pursuing Jesus But instead he keeps on forgetting What he was and what he did in the past What's in your past what's in your present You have a pedigree you have education you have degrees influence prestige and well What about the other side of that coin You have pride, boasting, sin, broken relationships, broken promises, pain, burned bridges, self-justification, bitterness, self-pity, insecurities, has your life been full of hating and being hated?

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    Divorce, broken families, abuse, sexual immorality, lies and more lies.

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    It seems like a long list, but we all know it's just the tip of the iceberg.

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    You know, in all these ways and more, we have sinned and wrecked ourselves. We have sinned against others and wrecked their lives. Others have sinned against us and broken us.

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    And all these things could be a huge ball and chain, spiritually and emotionally and even physically.

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    Because Satan the accuser, he's always lurking around to remind us about our past.

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    You're worthless. You'll never measure up. You can't do this. I know what you've done.

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    You know, you remember that time when you just fill in the blank.

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    But the good news is your past is dead. God doesn't hold you responsible for anything you did when you were dead, and neither should you. You are forgiven.

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    Your guilt is removed and so is your shame. You need to forget the past.

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    Forget it. Indeed, the Greek word for forgetting is so strong here.

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    It means to oblivious. Your past has faded into oblivion and God no longer brings it up. He doesn't think about it. He doesn't remember it. Satan does. Your flesh might. But beloved, what is in your past no longer exists. For you are in Christ Jesus. You So don't let the past drag you down in the present.

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    Don't let it deter you from pressing onward for the future, which God has called you heavenward in Christ Jesus.

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    The next part is striving.

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    Look at verse 12.

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    Paul says a curious thing.

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    I haven't attained it yet.

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    I haven't arrived.

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    This is a process.

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    I don't possess it yet.

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    I haven't attained yet to that for which Jesus took hold of me.

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    Nevertheless, he says, I press on.

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    I forget what is behind.

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    I strain toward what is ahead.

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    I press on toward the goal to win the prize.

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    Paul is using vigorous athletic imagery here.

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    The Greek for press on is dioko.

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    And it means to pursue, to aggressively chase, to pursue with all haste like a hunter in pursuit.

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    It could describe a runner who has fallen behind early in an endurance race, but now, now he's catching up.

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    Now he's exerting every spiritual muscle to reach the finish line.

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    It's an image of a runner hurtling towards the tape and throwing herself over the line to be first.

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    You know, it's interesting that the Greek for press on here in verses 12 and 14, it's the same word translated as persecuting in verse six.

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    Paul is telling us is that just as I once zealously pursued believers in Christ, well, now I am zealously pursuing Christ.

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    How about you?

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    How about me?

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    Are we pursuing Christ as zealously as we once pursued our lusts and evil desires?

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    Or do we now have kind of a take it easy point of view?

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    Do we think, hey, my ticket to heaven's been punched.

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    Jesus is gonna bless me with my best life now.

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    I don't have to do a thing.

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    You know, let go, let God, right?

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    Hey, I'm just gonna take the easy victory lap.

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    I don't have to run the race.

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    No!

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    No, we are disciples, and life in Jesus takes discipline.

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    It takes hard, concerted, striving, straining effort to grow in Christ.

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    So study the Word to show yourself approved.

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    Apply it, do it.

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    Spend time in prayer and meditation on the Word.

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    Fast and deny yourself for the sake of gaining Christ.

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    So growing up involves our utmost exertion to forget and press on, and growing up also involves right thinking and careful imitation.

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    In verse 15, Paul says, "All of us then who are mature "should take such a view of things." Now previously Paul said, "I haven't already obtained all this." arrived at his goal, but he keeps striving to attain it. But then he says, "All who are mature should take this view of things." That seems odd. Well, the Greek word for "mature" is "kaleos." It means "finished, brought to completion, wanting nothing necessary for completeness and perfect." Paul used that very same word in verse 12 when he said he hadn't arrived.

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    Not that I am perfect, not that I am mature, and yet here now he says all of us who are mature should think like this. Well, in other words, Paul is telling us that those who are mature are the ones who realize we're not mature. When we view ourselves that way, we're thinking the right way. So let's dive a little deeper into right thinking because our thinking reveals what we treasure. Jesus used the same word when the rich young man asked him in Matthew chapter 19, "Good teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?" Jesus told him, "If you would enter life, keep the commandments.

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    He said to him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, "You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness. Honor your father and mother and you shall love your neighbor as yourself." The young man said to him, "All these I have kept, what do I still lack?" Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, "Go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, "and you will have treasure in heaven.

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    "And come, follow me." Jesus said to the young man, "If you want to be teleos," that is, if you want to be perfect, if you want to be mature, "then unload your worldly possessions." And we know the man went away dejected because he had lots of stuff.

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    Do you notice anything about Jesus' list of the commandments?

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    "Whereas you shall have no other gods before me." And what about, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything.

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    You shall not bow down to them and serve them." And where is number 10, "You shall not covet." And Jesus mentioned loving your neighbor.

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    "What about loving the Lord your God "with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength?" The man's reaction to Jesus' exhortation to sell all his belongings identified his real problem.

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    It's not that he had lots of stuff.

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    It was the value that he placed on it.

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    It was the way he thought about his stuff and his identity.

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    He's an idolater who loves the world.

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    He loved his stuff more than God.

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    He wanted heaven, but he didn't really want the God who dwells there.

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    He wanted to have eternal life, but he only wanted to run the victory lap.

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    He

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    You didn't

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    want to actually strive to win the race.

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    He wanted the world more than heaven.

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    Compare that to Paul, who counted all things as loss.

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    Compare that to yourself, what you treasure.

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    Now that account really focuses on stuff, but the broader picture is that what characterizes mature Christians is a rejection of and a revulsion towards worldly values.

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    We're not to love the world or anything in it.

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    This is difficult because we're so used to the smell and texture of our crap that we We don't even notice we've brought it into the church with us.

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    We don't notice that we've brought it into our life in Christ.

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    We hold on to things like our pride and our pettiness, our self-importance, or maybe even our negative self-abasement.

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    We wanna hold on to all the stuff that we use to accessorize our lives so that we can let others know that we're blessed than they are.

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    What we really need, beloved, is a gag reflex, a spiritual gag reflex.

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    You know what I'm talking about.

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    If you ever had to clean up somebody else's fluids, it's all you can do to keep everything down.

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    We look at our world that way, "Oh, that's revolting." Do you have that response?

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    They're coming for our children.

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    Oh, that's revolting.

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    Yeah, we need to be revolted by the world and recognize the crap for what it is.

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    We need to purge it and count everything as loss for the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus, our Lord.

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    See, how we think about the world reveals a great deal about our maturity.

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    What are you focused on?

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    What occupies your heart and your thoughts and your time?

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    You might ask me, "Well, what should I be focused on?

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    What should I be occupied with and doing?" If you're expecting a laundry list of do's and don'ts right now, I'm sorry you're going to be disappointed.

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    You know, Satan likes that kind of Christianity, you know, lists of rules, things to do and not do.

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    But we all know that's a graceless, legalistic set of rules.

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    founded on worldly pride.

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    Man-made rules have no power to save.

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    And me telling you what kind of car you should or shouldn't drive, or what kind of house you should own, isn't going to make you holy.

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    Nor am I going to tell you what movies you should or shouldn't watch, or TV shows that are acceptable, or what social media you can use, what you should drink or not drink, how to spend your money.

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    No.

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    Such things will do you no good in the long run or the short run.

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    And really, over the past year, we've seen how man-made rules play out, haven't we?

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    They spiral out of control until they become completely nonsensical.

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    They take on a legalistic virtue signaling.

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    When has that kind of legalism ever worked out for the church?

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    My Aunt Jen, who was a Sunday school teacher and a good Pentecostal church woman, she used to tell me, "Richie, good Christian boys "don't do those kinds of things.

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    "Richie, good Christian boys don't go to movie theaters." And I have the heart to tell her that I was only one of those three things.

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    But there's that kind of rule.

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    What good is that rule? It doesn't get behind what's going on, such as, "Well, who am I giving my money to?

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    What kind of ideas are being purveyed by these movies? What are people doing with the money that I'm giving them?

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    What's their worldview and what are they promoting?" That's what we've got to get at. That's what we've got to be discerning about and think about. So my Aunt Jen, she wouldn't go to movie theaters and watch movies, but she would watch them on TV at home. Kind of proves my point, right? So no, cultural rules have no power at all to save or sanctify you. By following them you might look like somebody's idea of an obedient Christian in a particular culture.

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    You but your heart won't be transformed.

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    To be transformed in your thinking, you have work to do every day.

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    If you're Jesus' disciple, you've got to work out your salvation by examining what you treasure, what you crave, what you long for, and you have to ask yourself how your stuff, your activities, your cherished thoughts and ideas square with Jesus.

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    A good starting point is assuming that everything about us and our values is wrong.

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    It's of the world, it's of Satan, and it's crap.

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    I realize that this is kind of a flat out, scorched earth approach to life.

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    But you know, it makes things pretty simple.

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    And it's not an approach that happens overnight.

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    It doesn't happen in a month or a year.

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    It takes a lifetime.

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    It's a process of shucking off the world and striving to take hold of Jesus for a lifetime.

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    Now you may want to know, what does this process look like practically?

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    Well, life in Christ isn't about just selling all your stuff and becoming a minimalist.

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    It's not about becoming an ascetic.

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    I'm not advocating that we all become like the Amish and we're living in some anachronistic world, right?

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    We don't want to create a culture frozen in time.

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    And as I said, it's certainly not about learning and following a set of rules.

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    It's rather seeing and evaluating the world with baptized eyes and realizing our lives were and in some ways may still be full of crap of the world.

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    And we gotta ask ourselves, why do I still value this?

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    The Corinthian church faced the same challenge.

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    On the one hand, they'd been set free in Christ, yet they were dogged by problems that arose out of their pagan worldview that was still so much a part of them.

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    They mixed everything together from their old lives with their new lives in Christ, and they justified it by saying, "All things are lawful for me." Well, Paul countered that by saying, "You need to think this way." He said, "Yes, all things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful.

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    All things are lawful for me.

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    I will not be dominated by anything." And again in chapter 10, "All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful.

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    Some things are lawful, but not all things build up.

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    So that's the process.

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    It's a process of weighing your motives, your attitudes, your behaviors, your possessions, and evaluating everything in the light of Christ.

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    Something might be lawful, but is it really helpful?

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    Does it control or dominate me?

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    Or can I just walk away from it?

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    Don't need that anymore. Is what I'm doing please God? Is it motivated by pride? Or is it motivated by humility?

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    I mean earlier you probably thought it was being a killjoy. Oh he wants us to get rid of everything we do, we can't have fun.

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    No! Oh as you go through this process of discerning and evaluating and shaking off the world, shaking off everything that so easily entangles, you discern God's true gifts. You find real joy. You walk in real freedom.

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    As I said, this process takes a lifetime, but don't think for that reason you can put it off till later. "I've got time." No, you don't. With the help of the Holy Spirit and In the light of the word, get after it.

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    We have work to do every day to develop right thinking.

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    And I understand not everyone will agree with my scorched earth approach, and that's okay.

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    Paul anticipated the same objection when he said in the rest of verse 15, if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.

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    And he went on, only let us live up what we have already attained. Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have us as a model, keep your eyes on those who live as we do." Paul turns here to the careful imitation of our outline.

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    It sounds kind of confusing. On the one hand, he says, "I haven't attained my goal." But on the other, he says, "Let us live up to what we've attained." Well, what is it? What exactly have we all attained?

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    Why? Forgiveness of sins and God's unlimited mercy, abounding grace and steadfast love that endures forever. We've been adopted and united with Christ and in Him we sit at the right hand of God the Father. We've been raised with Christ and transferred to his kingdom of light.

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    Beloved, we've attained to everything and now we need to grow up into it.

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    How do we do that?

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    I mentioned earlier that it takes concerted striving to grow up in Christ.

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    We live up to what we've attained by studying the word, by doing it, such as pouring out forgiveness.

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    Pouring out mercy and grace and love for others.

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    And yes, to be in the process of shunning the world.

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    In short, to think and act like Jesus.

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    You know, we've had multiple excellent sermons about knowing Jesus and imitating Him.

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    So I'd recommend you review your notes and re-watch these messages listed here.

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    Go back and take a look.

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    Paul also says to be a copycat.

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    Look for and keep your eyes on mature believers.

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    Get their advice, their guidance.

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    Imitate them.

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    We have plenty of mature believers here at Harvest.

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    So find a mentor and ask for their help in prayers.

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    Study them, imitate them.

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    All right, so we've seen growing up involves exertion, right thinking, careful imitation.

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    Finally, growing up involves glorious transformation.

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    We've already seen the goal of pursuing maturity is knowing Christ more than anything else.

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    But you know, Paul doesn't want to wait until he's dead to know Christ.

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    No, he wants to know Him right now, right now.

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    But he concludes this passage by pointing out why maturity matters.

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    Look what he says in verse 18.

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    For as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ.

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    Their destiny is destruction.

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    Their God is their stomach, their glory is in their shame.

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    Their mind is set on earthly things.

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    But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

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    There's a sharp contrast here.

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    We might think that those who are living enemies of the cross of Christ are unbelievers.

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    It's more likely Paul is referring to people in the church.

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    Why else would his warning come with tears?

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    You see, these folks live as enemies of the cross because they're immersed in worldly, earthly things.

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    They love the world and all its crap.

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    They exult in their shame and in pursuing temporary pleasures.

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    and therefore their destiny is destruction.

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    And here, beloved, is why maturity matters.

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    When persecution comes, what will you do?

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    You're probably going like, "What? Persecution? What does this have to do with this message?" Well, remember where Paul is when he's writing this letter. He's in prison.

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    The church in Philippi was founded out of persecution.

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    Remember, he was locked in prison.

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    He was in the stocks with Silas.

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    And yet, the whole letter to the Philippians speaks of joy and thanksgiving and contentment.

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    In the light of persecution, Paul lives no differently for Christ.

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    Whether he's out walking free and preaching the gospel, or whether he's in prison, the gospel isn't chained. And my chains have resulted in glory to God.

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    He's already suffered the loss of all things.

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    He has nothing left to lose. Nothing can be taken away from him.

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    He doesn't care if he's being persecuted. To live is Christ, to die is gain.

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    Write that down.

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    Write that down in your notes. What will I do when persecution comes?

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    Those who are living as enemies of the cross will simply compromise.

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    It won't be difficult for them to do because they're already living there.

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    They won't count the cost, or they will count the cost and decide, "Hey, preserving my lives, preserving my reputation, preserving my creature comforts are of greater value than following Jesus." They will be unwilling to count all things as lost.

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    But what about me?

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    When persecution comes, will I compromise to save my stuff, my reputation, and maybe even save my skin?

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    You know they're burning churches in Canada?

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    Canada!

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    Will I be numbered with those whose destiny is destruction?

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    Or will I gladly suffer the loss of all things for the cross of Christ?

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    You will if you're striving to be mature.

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    As he said, Paul did not care that he lost all things because of what he had gained.

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    I know Jesus, I'm becoming like Jesus.

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    I'm obtaining a citizenship in heaven, where one day I will see Jesus face to face.

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    Beloved, these precious promises are for us as well.

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    We are citizens of heaven, and Jesus is going to return for us and transform us into his glorious likeness.

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    In Philippians 4, verse one, Paul concludes his exhortation to press on to maturity.

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    And in keeping with his athletic imagery, he brings us to the top of the victor's podium.

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    Look what he says.

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    He says, "Therefore my brothers and sisters, "you whom I love and long for, "my joy and my crown, "stand firm in the Lord in this way, dear friends." Beloved, we will stand firm by doing these things.

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    We will not be caught up in the world or live in fear of anything.

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    Instead, as citizens of heaven, we will press on to maturity in Christ and the prize of knowing him and being like him forever.

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    Paul used similar imagery in his letter to the Ephesians where he urged them to attain to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.

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    And he prayed for them that they may be filled with all the fullness of God.

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    Beloved, make that your goal.

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    We have thoroughly examined Paul's example of counting all things as loss, of strenuously forgetting what is behind and straining for what is ahead.

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    Glorious transformation into the fullness of Christ, into all the fullness of God.

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    There is nothing better.

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    There is no more worthy way to live your life.

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    So why don't you grow up and become just like your Father?

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    Let's pray.

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    Oh, glorious Father, our great God, You who have loved us and saved us through our Lord Jesus Christ, help us by Your Holy Spirit to grow up in Him, to be imitators of Him in all we think and do and say.

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    Help us, Father, to be daily busy at this work, at this task.

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    There is nothing better for us to do.

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    We are confident of this.

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    You will help us and transform us until that great day when we see our Lord Jesus face to face.

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    In His name we pray, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Philippians 3:12-4:1

  1. What is one thing that God revealed to you personally during the sermon?

  2. Do you pursue Jesus as zealously as you once pursued sin? Why is it difficult for us to do that?

  3. What comes to mind when you think of maturity? What do you think of Jesus’s perspective on maturity (Matthew 19:22)?

  4. It was said during the message that a good starting point for evaluating what we value is that “everything is crap” and “everything about us and our values is wrong.” What do you think about those statements?

  5. What does the process of sorting through your values look like for you? (1 Corinthians 6:12 and 10:23)?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Finding Joy in Work

Introduction:

We Have Joy in Work Because...
(Ecclesiastes 3:9-15)

  1. It is a Gift from God. (Eccl 3:13b)
  2. We are Made for working. (Eccl 3:10-11a)
  3. It leads us to the "Big Picture".
    (Eccl 3:11b,14-15)
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3 Ways Eternity Changes Our Work:

  1. It changes our Mindsets of why we work.
  2. It keeps work in its Proper Perspective .
  3. It helps us to Reevaluate our work.

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  • 00:38-00:39

    Happy 4th of July.

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    I know a lot of people with it being the 4th of July might be distracted right now, thinking about their cookouts or the parades that are coming up or fireworks, right?

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    So I want to open up in a word of prayer so that we can clear our heads of these distractions.

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    All right?

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    So Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day.

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    We thank you for our nation and our independence.

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    And at this moment God, we ask that you help us to put away distractions.

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    You help us to instead focus on your Word right now, as we dig in, as we see what you have for us.

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    To glean from it truths that we can apply to our lives, and help us in our walk with you.

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    We thank you God. We pray this in your Son, Jesus' name. Amen.

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    So, some of you might see, I brought my posse with me.

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    I have my parents, I have my Jersey parents, I have my older sister and their family here, and I do have an older brother as well, but he is not here.

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    So where does that leave me in the hierarchy of my family?

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    Well, I'm the baby, right?

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    And I don't think I have to sell anybody on the fact that babies have it the best in the families. Despite that, there is one major setback being the baby of the family. One major setback. You get to see your siblings do everything before you get to do it, right? Things like graduating, you know, maybe going to college, doing all the exciting things in life, right? And one of those things for me that I was really jealous about initially was when I saw my brother get a job. My brother got a job at Viola's in Evans City and I just remember being so jealous because he was now making the big bucks. Minimum wage or not, it was far beyond the going rate at home for our allowance. I'm sorry mom and dad.

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    But a few years later I got to live that dream. I got a job at Sherwood retirement community as a server in the dining room.

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    And I worked there for five years of my life before I graduated college and got my first big boy job.

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    And thinking back on that first job, I remember being so excited for my first days there and conversely I was also equally as excited when I put my two weeks notice in.

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    At that point I was saying sayonara, I'm off to bigger and better things and to more important work. Now my excitement there was mainly rooted in the fact that you know I got a job that dealt with my college degree but I was also excited because I left what I felt to be a dead-end job. Right at that time I had no satisfaction in that work and there was no more happiness. Right I stayed there in college more so out of obligation because I had been there for about a quarter of my life. But at the end, I dreaded being put on that schedule.

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    Now the funny thing about my first job though is that it's definitely the most memorable one. I wasn't in charge of any big decisions at work and the work I did there was far easier than anything I've done subsequently. And as much as I was eager to leave Sherwood Oaks, I remember having a lot of fun, being really exciting and how joyful some of those days were. I want everyone here to think about your first job, right? Think about that.

    04:21-04:31

    All the different characters and just the situations and hijinks that you got yourself into. Isn't it memorable? Isn't it fun to think about those prior days?

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    I remember at Sherwood Oaks whenever I got there and I got to see that I was runner, right? And if my boy Ryan was the expedited busser, I knew it was going to and it was going to be a good day.

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    And after the shift, we got to eat all the leftover, unserved food.

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    I remember eating my paycheck in scallops one night.

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    (Laughter)

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    That was amazing.

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    But fast forward to today, I work at a financial institution, and I get to do some cool things, right?

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    I make a good wage, and the work is satisfying, but it doesn't have the spark of that first job.

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    In fact, as I've gotten older and I've chased the career path, moved jobs, and even gotten promotions, there hasn't been that same level of happiness and excitement.

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    My job is mainly for a paycheck, right?

    05:20-05:24

    I work to provide, but my joy is lacking.

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    And maybe you're in the same boat as me, right?

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    Nice job, you're comfortable, the work brings home the bacon, but not the joy.

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    So what do we do in that situation?

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    Do we split and search for the next thing?

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    Do we hunker down and reevaluate where God has us right now?

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    How do we stay happy at work?

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    How do we find joy in work?

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    Should we find joy in work?

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    Now, before half of you check out, hold up, wait a minute.

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    I want to take everyone along for this ride, because work does not equal having a 9 to 5, 40 hours a week, paid bi-weekly with medical and dental benefits job.

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    Whether you know it or not, nearly everyone works, and is therefore a worker.

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    Work is broadly defined as a physical or mental activity directed towards the production or accomplishment of something, fulfilling duties, laboring, toiling, exerting energy.

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    Because besides my main job, I work at my home.

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    When things break or need repaired, I work to fix them.

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    When the yard needs maintained, I work outside.

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    And at the church, when AV stuff needs done, I work to do that thing.

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    But my view of work and what falls under that domain is just a tiny sliver of what constitutes what work is.

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    I think about my wife Jessica and the stuff that she does - maintaining the home, feeding our family, raising our children.

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    She's toiling, she's exerting energy to accomplish something, so she's working.

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    She is a worker.

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    So you might be a mom or dad, at home with your young kids, feeding, nourishing, and pouring all you can into them.

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    You're a worker.

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    You might be a missionary, spreading God's word to remote regions of the world.

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    A worker.

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    You might be a student, studying for a degree or practicing under an apprenticeship.

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    A worker.

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    You might be like me, have a part-time or full-time job or self-employed, using whatever skill set you have to earn a paycheck.

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    A worker.

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    But there are special circumstances, I'll admit, where someone is unable to work due to either disability or other circumstances, but nearly everyone has the ability to work in either a physical or mental capacity.

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    So what are some of the word associations that we have with work, with the term "work" and "worker"?

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    I already dropped a few earlier.

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    Toil, exertion, labor, maybe back-breaking, sweat.

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    Are the real Debbie Downers in the room necessary evil?

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    But what about the word "joy"?

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    Is that word association even in the top 100?

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    Probably not, at least not for most of us.

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    Unfortunately, work typically has a negative connotation associated with it.

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    It's something we do out of necessity, and it often isn't easy.

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    And I'm not here to discredit those facts.

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    That's often the nature of work, especially living in a fallen world.

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    Right, sin warped and destroyed God's original intentions for work.

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    Despite the current conditions of this world, that does not mean that we can't have good connotations associated with work as God originally intended.

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    And that's what we're gonna focus on today, finding joy in our work.

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    So we're gonna be in Ecclesiastes 3, 9 through 15 today.

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    So I want you to go ahead and exert some energy, work to turn the page or swipe on your phone, and we'll be in scripture shortly.

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    So joy, work.

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    I'm sure many of us do have work that we find fun or joyful.

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    Could be a hobby or a part-time job we really enjoy.

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    So I'd say there's always work that we can find and label as bringing us joy.

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    But often there's a majority of work that we pile into that necessary evil category.

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    Maybe you don't really like your job, you're just there for the paycheck.

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    Or if you work around the home, I mean, laundry day, can't wait to watch "Clothes" for the billionth time.

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    Or even doing missions work, right?

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    I can't imagine it being joyful doing the fundraising aspect of that.

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    Getting ghosted on calls and ignored.

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    Or for the students out there, I mean, what joy it is to study for the next exam, right?

    09:51-09:58

    So while we are familiar with joyful work, what can we do to extend that into the rest of what we do?

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    Let's go to God's word and see what he has to say about that.

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    Again, we're in Ecclesiastes 3 and starting in verse 9.

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    What gain has the worker from his toil?

    10:10-10:13

    I have seen the business that God has given to the children of man to be busy with.

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    He has made everything beautiful in its time.

    10:16-10:23

    Also, he has put eternity into man's heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.

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    I perceive that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live, also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil.

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    This is God's gift to man.

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    I perceive that whatever God does endures forever.

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    Nothing can be added to it nor anything taken from it.

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    God has done it so that people fear before him, that which is to be already has been, And God seeks what has been driven away.

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    So what a way to start off this scripture, right?

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    With an existential crisis.

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    What gain has a worker from his toil?

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    But this is a valid question.

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    I'm sure many of us have asked ourselves in regards to our work or working.

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    Why am I doing this?

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    What purpose does it have?

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    What is the point?

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    Why am I breaking my neck for this?

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    Why am I fighting this battle?

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    And just being completely transparent, I was asking myself these questions earlier in the year and was primarily the reason why I selected this passage.

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    Work was pounding me and I was feeling lost.

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    You ever have those days?

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    One thing after another, a mistake here, a setback there, or maybe there's something else going on in your life that's giving you stress.

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    Kids acting up, car issues, bad weather ruining an outdoor event.

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    See, there's a lot of things beyond our control that cause us to lose joy in our work.

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    It can be overwhelming, right?

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    And there are things that are unexpected that instantly suck any prior joy from your life, things outside of our direct work.

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    Right? This might be kind of an extreme example, But in March of this year, right, that pounding

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    [Pounding]

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    became the heartbeat of our unborn daughter, Francesca.

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    [Pounding]

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    And at 22 weeks,

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    [Pounding]

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    it stopped.

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    [Pounding]

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    We had no say in that.

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    No control.

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    [Pounding]

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    That situation and that event only exacerbated the question, "What is the point of my toil?" Well the answer to this question is addressed in verse 12 and 13 and encompasses all types of work and workers.

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    Again verse 12 reads, "I perceive that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live.

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    Also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in his toil." So what gain is there from our work?

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    answer comes to being joyful, doing good and taking pleasure in our work, right?

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    End a sermon. You have joy because darn it, thus says the Lord.

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    But we're human, right? We seek a deeper answer than that, right? I mean, I remember growing up and asking my parents questions like, you know, the "why" questions. Why is this? Why is that? And initially you get like valid responses to begin with, but then once you keep digging further, it always devolves into to "because I said so," right?

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    Doesn't this seem like a "because I said so" type of response?

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    So what is the practical answer to be joyful and finding joy in all our work?

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    How do we stay motivated and keep wanting to work?

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    Luckily for us, the rest of this passage offers verses that can give us insight and address our concerns.

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    So on your outline, we have joy in work because, number one, It is a gift from God.

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    This is the part that was tagged onto the end of verse 13.

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    Taking pleasure in our toil, being joyful, that is a gift from God.

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    So what does that mean?

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    How does knowing that this is a gift from God cause us to have joy in work?

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    Well, God has blessed humanity with many gifts.

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    And his gifts serve a purpose and should provide us earthly pleasure, satisfaction and joy, right? Work being a gift from God should provide us earthly pleasure, satisfaction, and joy. And to help us understand this concept a little better, I want to take a look at some of God's other gifts and see if this holds true, right? Marriage. Marriage is a gift from God. It is something that He instructs us to do. It serves a purpose to unify a man and a woman, to We create a family unit where both sides complement each other.

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    And when done according to God's plan, it brings us earthly pleasure, satisfaction, and joy.

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    Sex.

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    Sex is a gift from God.

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    It's something he instructs married folks to do.

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    It serves a purpose, obviously, to create children, but also to draw a married couple together as one.

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    Sex provides us earthly pleasure, satisfaction, and joy.

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    Food.

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    Food is a gift from God.

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    It's something we kind of have to partake unless we die, but it serves a purpose to provide our bodies with energy, but also has good things like taste, and is a way for us to fellowship and commune with others.

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    So food as a gift provides earthly pleasure, satisfaction, and joy.

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    So coming back to work, right?

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    There is purpose to our work.

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    And depending on what you do for work, it can be pretty easy to see the direct implications for it.

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    Like the nine-to-fiver or part-time worker does it for a paycheck, the stay-at-home parent does it to raise children, the missionary does it to spread God's word.

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    Those are the purposes that we see.

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    But often there are purposes beyond our privy, purposes that God in his infinite wisdom has for us, but we don't see immediately.

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    Perhaps the work that he has us doing is developing our skills and our character to make us more useful for his purposes.

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    Or maybe our work is a way for us to get around others, others outside our sphere of influence so that we can minister to them.

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    Work also can be a welcome distraction from stressful situations or other things going on in our lives.

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    But ultimately, work is to fulfill his will.

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    And in that knowledge, we can have joy in knowing that we served his purposes.

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    Now I can only speak from my experiences, but I know I've had plenty of times when that joy is always in hindsight, right?

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    When I'm in the thick of work, it's difficult to see that purpose and joy.

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    And I don't want this to be a cop-out, but this is where a bit of faith comes in.

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    God told us that work is a gift so we can know our striving is not in vain.

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    You kind of have to go into your work with that attitude, and knowing that God has a purpose for it.

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    See, to me, that's the best way to set yourself up to be joyful, even when your work doesn't immediately seem that way.

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    And one other thing I want to mention about God's gifts is that man is pretty good at corrupting.

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    When we try to find purpose beyond his, we override the meaning of our work to begin to believe the idea that work isn't a gift from God.

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    Just like marriage, just like sex and food, we do a good job at warping and destroying God's original intentions for his gifts.

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    Marriage turns into a nagging burden and a trap we can't wait to escape.

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    Sex becomes a perverted, warped fetish that entraps men and women in habitual sin.

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    Food becomes gluttony and temporary pleasure to escape bigger problems.

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    Work too is easily corrupted.

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    It can turn into an idol and a trap that enslaves us.

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    A constant drive to earn money, to look out for our own interests, and become self-centered in our accomplishments and recognition.

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    Even parents or folks that think they have good intentions get sucked into false purposes.

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    Their work takes over their lives and they no longer have fellowship with their family, with their spouses, and especially God.

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    But just because we see this around us every day and many fall into that trap, it doesn't mean God's purposes are still not fulfilled.

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    Right? That's one of the beauties in serving and submitting under an all-knowing sovereign God. He can take that mistake and use it as a learning opportunity, a way to bring our perspective back into his view.

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    And if you're seeing somebody go through that, it's a stark reminder that When you fall into that trap, when you let work become your idol, it is a way to just suck the joy from our work.

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    So we need to have a proper perspective on work being a gift from God.

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    We have joy in our work because it is a gift, and the second reason why we have joy in our work is because number two, we are made for working.

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    Picking up again in verse 10. "I have seen the business that God has given to the children of man to be busy with.

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    He has made everything beautiful in its time." So this point goes a bit hand-in-hand with the first one.

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    Because work being a gift from God, he follows that up by equipping us to carry out the purposes of his work and the actions of working.

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    Right, think about this. If we go back to Genesis, You know the first thing we see God doing is creating the universe the earth and everything in it right six days where the Lord is working And on that last day God creates man, and he creates us in his image So you know what do we just see God do work, and he created us in his image, so You know why wouldn't we not be made to do the same thing?

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    And work isn't a bad thing either, right?

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    It's not like work was a form of punishment that came as a result of the fall.

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    You know, Adam actually had the first job.

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    God created the creatures and he brought them to Adam to name.

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    And he also had work in maintaining the Garden of Eden.

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    It wasn't until the fall and when the curse came into the world when work became a burden.

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    See, God always had in his mind that his creation would be doing stuff.

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    We would be working, even in eternity, right?

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    We're gonna be working there.

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    Some of us are gonna need to find new jobs.

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    No more pastors, no more lawyers, no more doctors, but we will be serving in eternity and serving for God's purposes.

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    And what exactly that looks like is definitely gonna be different.

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    And if you have any questions about this, you just missed our Q&A day last week, but it sounds like a great opportunity for the next time.

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    But why have joy in this fact that we were made to work?

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    Well, it shows that God equips us, right?

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    We aren't helpless or left to be overrun.

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    He engineered us with capable bodies and minds to fulfill the assignments He's given us.

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    Just look at the human body and how amazing it is, right?

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    We have opposable thumbs, we balance on two feet, we have voices to communicate, and minds that can think of all sorts of clever solutions and ways to go about working.

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    I think about the technology advancements we've seen over the recent years, and just how we as people can live to be 70, 80, 90 years old and spend that entire time working and being productive for His purposes. That is joyful.

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    And that's why you should find joy in your work.

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    The assignments God has given for you are because they are made for you.

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    You might be stretched or pushed beyond your comfort level, but isn't it joyful in knowing God has personally given each and every one of us assignments?

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    If we take a look at our church family here, there's many people here with a myriad of talents.

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    People with different levels of dexterity, patience, comprehension, and strength.

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    And each of those allow us to flourish in different work environments, different assignments, and in different ministry callings.

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    See, I work in the AV booth, right?

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    And I do that because I like to nerd out and do tech stuff.

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    Do not put me back in children's.

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    (audience laughing)

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    I say that both for my sake and for your child's.

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    Do I wish I was equipped to handle children's?

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    Sure, but that's not how God engineered me.

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    And I'm thankful that we have people like Mandy, Ryan, Kristen, and others that are equipped in that way.

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    You know, it can be easy instead to get desensitized on how wonderfully and fearfully we are individually made.

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    Instead, we focus on how weak and incapable we might be, and how someone else is better equipped, right?

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    Stronger, faster, smarter, whatever.

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    No, stop comparing, stop sabotaging your joy.

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    You are made specifically, You are equipped purposefully.

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    One last thing I want to mention about this topic is that just because you are equipped, it does not make you obligated.

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    I want to repeat that and I'll explain what I mean.

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    Just because you're equipped, it does not make you obligated.

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    See, this is another joy-robbing trap that I see people falling into.

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    People at our church, I myself have done it, right?

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    I think almost everyone has done it at least once in their life, right?

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    Saying yes to every request under the sun or feeling like you must do something because you can.

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    Now, there are circumstances where you have to step up, where you are called to that, and I'm not discrediting that.

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    But the people that take on work over and over and over again, maybe initially you can weather that storm, you can weather an increased workload.

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    But if you keep grinding on and on, often this will lead to bitterness, resentment, and a calloused heart towards the work you're doing.

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    If you remember verse 13, there's that eat and drink and take pleasure part.

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    We can't do that if you're always working.

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    So just be aware of this pitfall.

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    We don't wanna get burned out on the work gift.

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    There are plenty of other of God's gifts to partake in.

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    So we have joy because God has equipped us, right?

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    We are made for working.

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    But the third and most important reason why we have joy in our work is because, number three, it leads us to the big picture.

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    Second half of verse 11, then I'll read 14 and 15 again.

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    "Also, he has put eternity into man's heart, "yet so that he cannot find out what God has done "from the beginning to the end." And in 14, "I perceive that whatever God does "endures forever.

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    "Nothing can be added to it nor anything taken from it.

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    "God has done it so that people fear before him.

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    "That which is already has been, "that which is to be already has been, "and God seeks what has been driven away." See, up until now, I've been talking mainly about earthly things, right?

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    Working at a job, at home, on the mission field, at school, wherever.

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    I've been trying to make a case of why we can be joyful in our earthly work.

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    Well, while we can find pleasure and satisfaction and joy here, we must understand that eternity is the end state of everyone's soul.

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    The work we do on Earth is just like our lives here, fleeting, and just brief wisps compared to our eternal state.

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    See, God never meant for us to achieve total satisfaction in our earthly work.

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    Right, I mean, I compare this similarly to how the law leads us to a need of a savior in Jesus Christ.

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    The work we do on earth leads us to a craving of more, right, the big picture.

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    We started with that question earlier, what gain has a worker from his toil?

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    And there was that earthly answer, pleasure, satisfaction, joy, but there's still the hardship, there's still toil, there's still thistles and thorns to contend with.

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    So I think the better answer is coming to the realization about God's sovereignty and eternity.

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    The ideas that work is a gift and that we're equipped for it means that we have an eternal creator who's given purpose in everything.

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    I mean, we aren't always privy to his knowledge and his reasons, right?

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    If we look at verse 11, it says, "In our hearts, we know about eternity, "but we don't have God's view." We don't know the beginning from the end.

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    I'm sure there's many great assumptions you can come up with as to why God wants us to work here or there or wherever, but in the end, it's out of our control.

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    And in verses 14 and 15, this further solidifies that our work here, in a way, is just a reflection of what God has already done or what he will do.

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    There isn't anything we're going to do that's gonna catch God off guard.

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    That being said, this concept might make some of you anxious.

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    But to me, this brings joy because no matter what we do, God is in complete control.

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    And knowing that the work that we do here isn't everything, that's a comfort.

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    we aren't all equally gifted with the same type of work, or equally equipped in our bodies and minds.

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    But eternity, that is the great equalizer.

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    So you might be struggling day in and day out with the work you do, or maybe you're one of those rare few that really love everything that you do about all the work that you do.

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    Props there.

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    The point is, there is an end state of eternity.

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    where all burdensome, tiring, hard work is gonna be gone and replaced with serving the Lord.

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    So we're kind of in this odd tension.

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    Do I need to go to work?

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    Mike just said that God's gonna take care of everything.

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    So, well, yes, you do need to work here, right?

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    We still need to work.

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    We're not robots, we're not programmatically going around feeding ourselves.

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    And God still uses us on this earth to achieve his purposes, here and now.

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    So what can we do instead with this knowledge, right?

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    What can we take away from this?

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    Well, what we can do is instead take away some changes we can make to our work now that we have a focus on eternity.

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    So I'm going to go through three new points, semi-quickly, on how eternity changes our work.

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    So letter A, the first way eternity changes our work we work. Having an eternal focus means that we're more concerned with God's intentions for our work versus the earthly things. And not, again, not putting those things completely aside, but it helps us to find joy in our work and purpose that isn't just skin-deep, things that we think about. When you have an eternal mindset, you can ask those deeper questions about your work and how God can help you figure out if you're doing what he wants you to do.

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    It can also help soften your heart to bitterness you have at work, or to help you focus on areas where you struggle to find joy in your work.

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    See, as Christians, Jesus gave us the great commission to go forth and make disciples of all nations.

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    This is the work God is most concerned about, his eternal work.

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    Right, if we're able to see the relationship that our work has with His work, and how what we're doing is supporting that, that is where we'll find the most joy.

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    Not everything we do is gonna have a clear implication of how this relates to Kingdom work, making another meal or taking the kids to school, but if you can piece together all those little bits of your life and see if the culmination of what you do is to fulfill His purpose, that's where you'll find joy.

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    Letter B, another way that eternity changes our work, is it keeps work in its proper perspective.

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    See, I mentioned earlier that work can become an idol, but if we have an eternal mindset, that really shouldn't be the case for us.

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    Work is a gift and should be treated as such.

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    We don't overindulge in it, seeking to use work to replace our relationships with God and family with it. And knowing that our work isn't going to completely satisfy us here, why don't we reach for the stuff that will? Prayer, God's Word, and a relationship with Jesus Christ. Now there are reasons when work might become a priority in your life, but it should only be temporary. Deadlines approaching are critical timeliness factors, I get that.

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    But we shouldn't get into the habit of making work, or making excuses, rather, on why work is more important than everything else.

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    Just a small example in my own life, and something I've been having to catch myself doing, is ensuring that I spend enough time with my wife and kids when they ask, even if it's in the middle of work, or when I have those work things on my mind, projects around the house or other work-related things that I need to do.

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    And I think this is a discipline we all need to be conscious of.

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    Putting work aside at times and ensuring it hierarchically doesn't take over our lives.

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    And the final way that eternity changes our work, letter C, it helps us, rather, to re-evaluate our work.

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    Now this point might apply more to work that we would consider a job, but it can also apply to the favors that we might do for one another.

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    See, there's a lot of jobs out there that aren't specifically kingdom-focused.

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    What I do, for example, I wouldn't say that's a kingdom-focused job, but at the same time, it's not anti-kingdom.

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    But there are jobs that do fall into that gray area, that fall into this, "Am I doing this for God's glorification?" There's even jobs that are clearly anti-kingdom.

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    Working a call center scam, drug dealing, crime, that's not really God's work there.

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    But what about working at a liquor store or a casino?

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    The question that we should be asking ourselves is, Is the work we're doing glorifying to God?

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    Are we hurting the world or are we able to use our work to bring about His mission to be a shining light in darkness and help folks understand the truth about eternity?

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    You know, for those prior two examples I just mentioned, the liquor store and casino, I'd have to say no.

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    It's not God-glorifying work. Those businesses cater to sin tendencies. I mean, that's just kind of part of the job in the industry. If you're serious about God-glorifying work, you need to move on. "That's great, Mike. I'm just going to quit my job tomorrow." Right? On to where?

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    Well, hear me out. A great resource we have is our church family. I specifically know three people, close friends that have gotten jobs or different jobs through others in the church, jobs with businesses or people that love God, glorify Him, and those jobs provide them joy. Right? Our family here, our church family, is a passionate group of people that can help in all aspects of our lives, work included.

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    See, coming to Jesus and embracing His will, you know, it's not always going to be easy. You know, you might have to make very drastic changes in your lives. But these are changes that we have to make as we strive towards our own sanctification and our desire to become salt and light. But as we turn over all aspects of our lives to God. To His will, work included, joy will abound.

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    We talked about work, talked about joy. It's not always an easy relationship for us to see. And I realize that with work being such a broad topic, I might not have answered the specific questions that you have or concerns or address individual situations that might be robbing you of joy from your work. But God has given us his word, right? There are many, many other verses, other stories and scenarios and things that God uses in his scripture to speak to you, to help you through those specific situations. Things that you are going through that are robbing you of your joy. And I would encourage you to read and also discuss and your small groups. What's robbing you of your joy? But I do hope though that these verses in Ecclesiastes help encourage you in seeing that work is a good thing. It's something that we can find joy in. It is a gift from God and we're made and equipped for it. But ultimately it should lead us to the big picture of eternity. We're in the arms of Christ. We find never-ending joy. Let's Heavenly Father, I thank you for this time.

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    I thank you for this church and all the work that you've given us in the church, outside of the church, in our homes.

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    It's how we have purpose in everything that we do.

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    And it's not always easy, God, but we can find joy in every aspect of our work.

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    You are there.

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    It's just a matter of seeing your presence, God, and realizing that you've equipped us, you've gifted this to us, and that we can take pleasure and satisfaction.

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    God, I thank you also for your plan of eternity, that one day we will be with you in heaven, serving you in unending joy. Thank you, God, for this truth. Thank you for this word.

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    God, we pray this all in your Son, Jesus Christ's name.

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    Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read
Ecclesiastes 3:9-15

  1. What is one thing that God revealed to you personally during the sermon?

  2. How does God’s view of work allow you to be joyful in your toil?

  3. Why do we not have total satisfaction in our earthy work? What about people who are seemingly closest to God’s work (pastors, missionaries, evangelists, etc.)?

  4. Why should eternity have such a strong influence over our work?

  5. What changes can you make, in your mindset or circumstances, to bring joy in all your work?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

Questions from the Congregation - Part 15

Note: The time signatures [00:00] below indicate the start of a question if you'd like to skip to a particular one of interest in the audio file.

  1. [06:32] - Q: Were God the father, son, and spirit all present at the beginning of creation? How can we know this?
    A: See Colossians 1:16 - For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
    John 1:3 - All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    REVELATION / ESCHATOLOGY / END-TIMES

  2. [10:13] - Q: Do you personally see and feel the rise of the spirit of the antichrist throughout the world? All Romans 1 items checked within just a years time:

    • Pastors thrown in prison, churches fenced off, their homes burned with their children in them, US churches gladly shuttered in the name of "saving just one is worth it" while bowing to the alter of health, wealth, and science (the new religion)

    • Atrocities by world governments such as human trials of genetic modification supported by corporate coercion, suicide inducing lockdowns, planned starvation, destruction of small business, purposeful separating of sheep and goats due to testing and vaccination requirements, technological explosion ripe for the mark

    • Free speech removal, big tech takeover, cancel culture, woke culture, UFO/UAF disclosures, twisting of language and logic in that we have birthing persons because biological men can have babies, menstruate, and compete with girls in sports, amen must include “awomen”

    • Big tech takeover of everyone's lives: biometric data prepared for payment, cashless society by a false coin shortage, the US dollar move towards the digital dollar, shadow-banned to free speech isn't allowed on this platform to digital jail to digital exile

    • Israel: a new wars with many around them, a new government mixed with Jew and Muslim power, global antisemitism, US funded enemies, and the continued push for a 2 state solution

    • Nation fighting against nation with BLM peaceful protests, white guilt turned in to all whites are racist, Christians are racist, stolen elections, NWO schemes, and Israel is the oppressor of the world

      ...to name just a few

      That wedding feast seems to be getting really close now. So, personally how close are you feeling that the removal of His bride church is now?

  3. [17:16] - Q: It seems like Christ's return is imminent, I believe that he's coming back soon. I can't wait to be taken up to heaven. I just don't know how to live day to day with that type of mindset, knowing that I'm going to be taken away. How do I live "normally" worrying about work/job, finances, buying cars/stuff, upkeep for my house, etc. In first 1 Thes Paul tells the believers there that they haven't missed it and they need to keep on working. So I know I need to continue on, I'm just challenged by how to do that. Christ's love is in me and yes I can share that with others and try to get as many to heaven as possible, but really preacher, I'm exhausted from what God has given me. I'm ready to go. Can you give a few pieces of advice for how to persevere? How should I be praying? Thanks
    A: See Matthew 24:45-51, 1 Thes 5:6-11

  4. [24:16] - Q: In Revelation John sees the events of the end times and since John is a saved man, would he also be seeing himself in the future? Meaning that there would be a past John and a future John. Also, if John is there for the end times, that he had already seen, wouldn’t he have known that the Lamb was worthy to open the scroll and break the seals?

    A:
    1 Corinthians 4:6 - I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written...


    OLD TESTIMENT LAW / DOCTRINAL ISSUES

  5. [30:22] - Q: Were multiple marriages in the Old Testament considered a sin? For example, David had multiple wives, if that was considered a sin and he continued to live in that sin seemingly unrepentant why did God still use him?

    • Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines and God still used him... what? Was Solomon saved?

  6. [35:16] - Q: Why are there so many different versions of the Bible? Specifically the message, I know it gets the same point across but it says it completely differently than my NIV or ESV.

  7. [39:15] - Q: How do we know the Bible we have today is God's complete word? How does the apocrypha and other extra-biblical literature factor in? How can we be confident in it when it was seemingly assembled and decided by humans during various meetings/councils?
    A: Luke 24:27

    Any question that was missed due to time constraints during the service Pastor Jeff will address the answer
    on the blog.

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  • Pastor Jeff:

    00:00-00:01

    Good morning, Mark.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:01-00:02

    My favorite pastor.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:05-00:06

    Say that again.

    Mark Ort:

    00:07-00:10

    I said, "Good morning, Pastor Jeff, my favorite pastor."

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:11-00:12

    Did you all get that?

    Mark Ort:

    00:15-00:20

    You know, before we get into this, Mark, the mission of this church is to make disciples.

    Mark Ort:

    00:24-00:32

    There's a group of men that you saw in that video there, Ryan Stroop and Ben Mall and Mark Rodriguez and Duddy Murdoff.

    Mark Ort:

    00:33-01:04

    The Lord has put on them to not just to not just have like men's fellowship activities where we kind of get together occasionally and you know go ski shooting and you know have bacon. It's more of an intentional discipleship, accountability, transparency and they brought to the eldership an amazing idea for men's ministry.

    Mark Ort:

    01:04-01:25

    Ryan's actually gonna be talking about that more next week, but we wanna encourage all of the men of this church to take a hard look at that and prepare yourselves for some real gospel transformation that comes when iron sharpens iron and men are invested in each other's lives.

    Mark Ort:

    01:26-01:28

    So, Brian will talk more about that next week.

    Mark Ort:

    01:29-01:29

    So I don't wanna get,

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:30-01:31

    don't wanna step on his toes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:32-01:33

    Yeah, I mean, today's Q&A day, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:34-01:37

    And we've been looking forward to this for a long time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:37-01:40

    But before we get into this, I just have to say one thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:41-01:57

    That last song we sang, I had to recover from that a little bit because it said this in the song, "All the world can come to him and have their sins removed." And we've sung that song here before, haven't we there?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:58-02:06

    And that never really hit me that hard as it did this morning, that what's our biggest need as human beings?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:06-02:12

    Our most fundamental need is to have our sins removed.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:13-02:15

    And Jesus does that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:15-02:17

    He doesn't cover them up, He removes them.

    Mark Ort:

    02:18-02:21

    The Lamb of God takes away the sin, right?

    Mark Ort:

    02:21-02:23

    He, yeah, He doesn't just cover them.

    Mark Ort:

    02:23-02:25

    and He removes them.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:26-02:28

    Amen, I love that song, thanks Darren.

    Mark Ort:

    02:29-02:30

    Yeah, today's Q&A

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:30-02:42

    day, and so for those of you that maybe haven't experienced this yet, or are new around here, maybe today's your first time, what do we normally do at Harvest, and what's this Q&A day thing all about, Jeff?

    Mark Ort:

    02:43-02:46

    Well, you know, it started as an experiment.

    Mark Ort:

    02:46-02:51

    This is like the, I think the 14th or 15th one that we've done, I think, something like that.

    Mark Ort:

    02:52-03:01

    that many years ago, just as an experiment, we're like, what if we took a service and just answered the questions that people in the congregation had?

    Mark Ort:

    03:02-03:05

    And it went over pretty well.

    Mark Ort:

    03:05-03:16

    We found that people had some really good questions that we didn't wanna be a church that was like, there are certain subjects that are off limits, or don't talk about that, don't ask about that.

    Mark Ort:

    03:17-03:21

    We believe that God's word has the answers for everything that we need.

    Mark Ort:

    03:21-03:23

    So we're like, what questions do you have?

    Mark Ort:

    03:23-03:27

    Let's go to God's word and get the answers for whatever the questions are.

    Mark Ort:

    03:27-03:29

    So we don't run from any questions here, right Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:31-03:33

    I mean, there are always good questions.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:34-03:34

    I mean, we've got to hit them all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:35-03:37

    Sometimes we don't make it to the end.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:38-03:40

    And then what happens with those?

    Mark Ort:

    03:41-03:46

    The ones that we don't get to today, we'll put them on the blog on our website.

    Mark Ort:

    03:47-03:53

    Because, and the reason we do that, 'Cause I know somebody here is gonna think we was ducking your question, right?

    Mark Ort:

    03:53-04:00

    You're gonna be like, "Oh, Mark couldn't handle that one." Right, "That one was too tough." And you're gonna be walking around all proud of yourself.

    Mark Ort:

    04:00-04:02

    It's gonna be on the blog, all right?

    Mark Ort:

    04:03-04:05

    'Cause he ain't afraid of nothing, all right?

    Mark Ort:

    04:06-04:06

    That's why he's up here.

    Mark Ort:

    04:07-04:10

    So, yeah, we'll blog what's not covered.

    Mark Ort:

    04:11-04:18

    And then the other couple ground rules that I put on here, Mark, we ask or we answer what we think you're asking, right?

    Mark Ort:

    04:19-04:34

    So we have a pretty good sense of what's being asked in the question, so we can only answer what we think you're asking, and we're going to give the short answer, because honestly these questions, we could do like an entire like...

    Mark Ort:

    04:34-04:35

    Sermon series.

    Mark Ort:

    04:35-04:38

    Sermon series on any one of these questions, right?

    Mark Ort:

    04:38-04:50

    So we're going to give the short answer, and if you want any more like elaboration on some and some of these, you can buy us Chick-fil-A, and we'll sit over there, and Mark will tell you everything you want to know.

    Mark Ort:

    04:51-04:51

    Right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:52-04:52

    Sounds fair.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:53-04:55

    The other part of that question was what we normally do.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:57-04:58

    Did you mention that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:58-04:58

    Maybe I missed it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:58-05:04

    We normally go through a book of the Bible, and Jeff will preach expositionally, verse by verse.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:04-05:08

    And that will happen starting again in August, right?

    Mark Ort:

    05:08-05:08

    Right.

    Mark Ort:

    05:09-05:11

    And in July, we have our guest speakers.

    Mark Ort:

    05:11-05:17

    We have four men from our church who have been working very hard and putting a message together.

    Mark Ort:

    05:18-05:29

    We had our last rehearsal last Friday and just four men who love the Lord, love God's Word, and have spent a long time putting these messages together, and they're going to be giving them in July.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:30-05:31

    Really looking forward to that.

    Mark Ort:

    05:32-05:32

    Yeah, they're fantastic.

    Mark Ort:

    05:33-05:40

    And in August, Lord willing, unless he returns before then, which wouldn't be a bad thing, amen.

    Mark Ort:

    05:42-05:45

    If he doesn't return before then, we'll get back to the Gospel of John.

    Mark Ort:

    05:47-05:48

    Alright, so are you ready?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:48-05:50

    Yeah, what do we want to set the timer?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:50-05:52

    Like, how much time do we want to have for this?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:54-05:54

    An hour.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:56-05:59

    There are people, his wife is working in the nursery.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:00-06:05

    Do you really want him to go home and face Kristen's wrath?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:08-06:11

    Like, she got it, she got it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:12-06:14

    So an hour might be a little ambitious.

    Mark Ort:

    06:14-06:15

    -No lunch for me.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:15-06:16

    -No lunch for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:17-06:18

    How about you want to say 35 minutes?

    Mark Ort:

    06:19-06:21

    -That's fair.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:19-06:21

    -Is that fair? 35 minutes?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:22-06:23

    All right, we'll start the timer then.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:24-06:26

    And we'll do as many as we can in 35 minutes, all right?

    Mark Ort:

    06:27-06:28

    -Sounds good.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:27-06:28

    -All right, let's do it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:28-06:29

    Timer's going.

    Mark Ort:

    06:30-06:31

    I've got to get my cheaters on.

    Mark Ort:

    06:33-06:34

    All right, question one, Jeff.

    Mark Ort:

    06:35-06:39

    "Were God the Father, Son, and Spirit all present at the beginning of creation?

    Mark Ort:

    06:40-06:41

    How can we know this?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:42-07:05

    Yeah, the Bible is very clear that God, one God exists as three persons and all three members of the Godhead, which by the way we don't understand because we are people who live in time and space, God lives outside of time and space, so it's kind of logical that there are some things about God that we just can't understand.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:06-07:15

    So we have to turn to God's Word and say, "What does the Bible say about that?" And the Bible says very clearly that, first of all, God the Father was involved in creation.

    Mark Ort:

    07:15-07:27

    You know, Genesis 1.1 says, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." And in the Hebrew, that's Elohim, is the name for God.

    Mark Ort:

    07:27-07:31

    That was how, it's almost better translated, the Almighty One.

    Mark Ort:

    07:32-07:34

    And then Barah, Elohim Barah.

    Mark Ort:

    07:35-07:37

    Barah is created out of nothing.

    Mark Ort:

    07:38-08:00

    But then the very next verse, Genesis 1-2, says, "Then the Spirit of God, the Roush of Elohim, proceeded to move upon the face of the waters." So God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit, according to Genesis 1-2, was involved in creation as well.

    Mark Ort:

    08:00-08:03

    And Mark, what does the Bible say about Jesus Christ's involvement in creation?

    08:04-08:05

    Well,

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:05-08:10

    in the New Testament, there's a couple of places in Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:11-08:28

    And I'll read these in a second, but we have to get this right because all sorts of heresies arise from not understanding that God the Father, God the Son, God the Spirit, were all there together at the beginning.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:29-09:03

    And so in Colossians 1:16, it says this, "For by Him," Christ, referring to Christ, "all things were created in heaven and on earth, "visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions "or rulers or authorities, "all things were created through Him and for Him." And in John 1:3, "All things were made through Him, "and without Him was not anything made that was made." And so these are clear passages from the New Testament about Jesus being present then.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:03-09:06

    And Jehovah's Witnesses get this wrong.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:07-09:09

    They say that Jesus was a created being.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:10-09:15

    And that's where the heresy and false religions arise by not getting this right.

    Mark Ort:

    09:15-09:28

    And you know, part of that also, God says, "Let us make man in our image." And I personally believe that what he is talking about there the us is the Godhead.

    Mark Ort:

    09:28-09:35

    and for us to be created in God's image, there is more to you than what you see when you look in a mirror.

    Mark Ort:

    09:36-09:44

    You are body, mind, and spirit, so essentially you are three in one, just as God is three in one, right?

    Mark Ort:

    09:44-10:01

    So I believe that that's an aspect of creation when God says, "Let us make man in our image," that there's a sense in which being in the image of God, We carry that plurality of person within ourselves.

    Mark Ort:

    10:01-10:07

    Again, it's a mystery how all that works, but it makes sense to God.

    Mark Ort:

    10:08-10:11

    And even if we can't explain it or understand it, we believe it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:11-10:11

    Amen.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:12-10:14

    All right, we're gonna go to the second question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:14-10:22

    And whoever wrote this question, you get the award for the longest question that we've ever had at Q&A day.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:22-10:22

    Yeah,

    Mark Ort:

    10:22-10:24

    yeah, this is a dude, get comfortable.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:25-10:28

    So I'm probably going to skim some of it, if that's okay.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:30-10:35

    Do you personally see and feel the rise of the spirit of the Antichrist throughout the world?

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:36-10:39

    All Romans 1 items checked within just a few years time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:40-10:42

    And these are the items.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:42-10:53

    You have pastors thrown in prison, churches fenced off, their homes burned with children in them, referring to some of the stuff that happened in Canada, I guess, up to our north.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:54-11:03

    U .S. churches shuttered in the name of saving just one is worth it, bowing to the altar of health, wealth, and science, the new religion.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:04-11:13

    We have atrocities by world governments, human trials of genetic modification supported by corporate coercion.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:13-11:31

    We have suicide-inducing lockdowns, planned starvation, destruction of small businesses, purposeful separation of sheep and goats, testing and vaccine requirements, the technological explosion ripe for the mark of the beast.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:32-11:41

    We have the removal of free speech, big tech takeover, cancel culture, woke culture, twisting of language and logic.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:42-11:57

    We have related to that birthing persons, I'm sorry, The logic in that we have birthing persons because biological men can have babies, menstruate, compete with girls in sports.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:58-12:00

    A men must include a woman.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:01-12:08

    I mentioned the big tech takeover, biometric data, false coin shortage, a whole bunch of things here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:08-12:20

    Israel, new wars, new government mixed with Jew and Muslim power, global anti-Semitism, fighting against nations with BLM peaceful protests.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:22-12:24

    We have a whole bunch of stuff here in this question to name a few.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:25-12:29

    The question is, "The wedding feast seems to be getting really close now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:30-12:39

    So, personally, how close are you to feeling that the removal of his bride, the church, is now?" That's a lot.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:42-12:43

    Yes, it is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:43-12:43

    It's

    Mark Ort:

    12:43-12:49

    like somebody's like, "I'd really like to give a sermon, but I'm really not keen on public speaking.

    Mark Ort:

    12:50-12:58

    Is there a way I can slide in?" Okay, so the first question is, "Do I personally see and feel the rise of the Spirit of Antichrist throughout the world?" Yes.

    Mark Ort:

    12:59-13:03

    Second question, that was a yes or no question.

    Mark Ort:

    13:05-13:08

    The second question is, "The wedding fee seems to be getting really close now.

    Mark Ort:

    13:08-13:16

    So personally, how close are you feeling that the removal of his bride church is now?

    Mark Ort:

    13:19-13:20

    Matthew 24, verse 32.

    Mark Ort:

    13:20-13:22

    You don't have to turn it, you can jot it down.

    Mark Ort:

    13:23-13:24

    But I'm going to read this quickly.

    Mark Ort:

    13:24-13:27

    Matthew 24, verse 32.

    Mark Ort:

    13:28-13:31

    And this is in the context of Jesus talking about end times stuff.

    Mark Ort:

    13:32-13:35

    Jesus said, "From the fig tree learn its lesson.

    Mark Ort:

    13:35-13:39

    As soon as the branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near.

    Mark Ort:

    13:40-13:52

    So also when you see all these things that he just mentioned previously, Jesus mentioned, so also when you see all these things, you know that he is near at the very gates.

    Mark Ort:

    13:52-13:57

    Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

    Mark Ort:

    13:57-14:01

    Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

    Mark Ort:

    14:02-14:06

    So Jesus made it very clear that there are some signs that we are to look for.

    Mark Ort:

    14:06-14:11

    And we went through the book of Revelation here at church and we've talked about end time stuff quite a bit.

    Mark Ort:

    14:12-14:14

    And we know that there are some signs.

    Mark Ort:

    14:14-14:20

    Some of them mentioned here in this extraordinarily long and well-crafted question.

    Mark Ort:

    14:21-14:33

    You know, things like one world government, one world currency, you know, just so many things that the Bible talks about that we're seeing being fulfilled in front of us.

    Mark Ort:

    14:36-14:37

    It's pretty obvious.

    Mark Ort:

    14:38-14:41

    Jesus made a statement three times here.

    Mark Ort:

    14:41-15:07

    Verse 36, He said, "But concerning that day and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven nor the Son, but the Father only." Then verse 44, Jesus said, "Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming in an hour you do not expect." And then 25.13, He says, "Watch therefore for you know neither the day nor the hour." So here's where we are, right Mark?

    Mark Ort:

    15:08-15:19

    Jesus said, "No one knows the time, but be watching for the signs." Right? Because the signs are going to show us when things are near.

    Mark Ort:

    15:19-15:23

    And I believe that things are very near.

    Mark Ort:

    15:23-15:33

    If you were to pin me down on a time, I would just say, honestly, I could see it within the next year or two, based on a lot of the things that are happening globally right now.

    Mark Ort:

    15:34-15:37

    I could see the return of Christ within the next year or two.

    Mark Ort:

    15:40-15:41

    You don't need me to tell you

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:41-15:45

    the exponential rate.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:46-15:48

    I went through the list, and that's just a piece of it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:49-15:58

    the exponential rate of a slide or deterioration, not just in our country, but around the world.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:59-16:04

    And I like the passage that you mentioned there about being watchful in 2513.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:05-16:23

    And I took a look at this passage, and my version says, "Be on the alert." And I look that up, and it's a watchfulness, a strict attention to take heed lest some sudden calamity overtake you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:24-16:29

    And there's no room for falling asleep at the wheel here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:31-16:33

    There's no room for laziness.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:33-16:49

    We have to be vigilant and watchful, looking for these signs, but also just in our own personal walk, we need to stay in the word, we need to stay in tune with the truth, because that's hard to find.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:50-17:01

    Fake news and all this stuff on the internet, we don't know what's true anymore, but we have to be vigilant and on the alert and watchful as the passage says here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:02-17:04

    And we don't know the day or the time.

    Mark Ort:

    17:04-17:15

    Yeah, we don't know, but Jesus said, "Pay attention to the signs and you'll have an awareness to when it's near." And I believe that it's coming soon.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:16-17:17

    And that leads us to our next question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:19-17:21

    It seems like Christ's return is imminent.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:22-17:26

    And by the way, this person gets the prize for the second longest question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:27-17:27

    Yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:27-17:29

    But I believe he's coming back soon.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:29-17:31

    I can't wait to be taken up to heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:31-17:32

    Amen?

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:33-17:39

    I just don't know how to live day to day with that type of mindset, knowing that I'm going to be taken away.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:40-17:48

    How do I live normally, worrying about work, job, finances, buying cars and stuff, upkeep for my house, et cetera?

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:48-17:56

    In 1 Thessalonians, Paul tells the believers that they haven't missed it, and they need to keep on working.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:57-17:58

    So I know I need to continue on.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:59-18:00

    I'm just challenged

    18:00-18:01

    by how to do that.

    18:01-18:12

    Christ's love is in me, and yes, I can share that with others and try to get as many to heaven as possible, but really, preacher, I'm exhausted from what God has given me.

    18:12-18:13

    I'm ready to go.

    18:14-18:17

    Can you give a few pieces of advice for how to persevere?

    18:18-18:19

    How should I be praying?

    18:20-18:20

    Thank you.

    18:20-18:22

    That is a really good question.

    18:22-18:29

    And as we approach God's Word, In Matthew 24 and 25,

    Mark Ort:

    18:31-18:33

    Jesus was talking about end time stuff.

    Mark Ort:

    18:34-18:41

    So when I saw this question, the first thing I had to ask was, what application did Jesus make?

    Mark Ort:

    18:41-18:49

    In light of end time events, things that are coming soon, what application did Jesus...

    Mark Ort:

    18:49-18:52

    And Jesus directly answers this question.

    Mark Ort:

    18:52-18:57

    verses 45 through 51 in Matthew 24.

    Mark Ort:

    18:58-19:14

    Here's what Jesus, in light of all that He said was coming, tribulation events and the close of the end of this age, He says, "Who then is the faithful and wise servant whom his master has sent over his household to give them their food at the proper time?

    Mark Ort:

    19:16-19:20

    Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.

    Mark Ort:

    19:20-19:23

    "Truly I say to you, He will set him over all his possessions.

    Mark Ort:

    19:25-19:46

    But if that wicked servant says to himself, 'My master is delayed,' and begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him, and in an hour he does not know, and he will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites.

    Mark Ort:

    19:47-20:09

    In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." So Jesus used this analogy here of the wise servant who's like, "I know my Master is coming back soon, so I'm going to get busy doing my Master's business." And that's the work of the church, that's evangelism, that's discipleship, that's reaching the world with the love and the Word of God.

    Mark Ort:

    20:10-20:20

    And Jesus contrasted it with the wicked servant, who's like, "Hey, he ain't coming back, and he mistreats people, and he's abusive, and he's mean-spirited and cruel.

    Mark Ort:

    20:23-20:25

    His future is not looking so good.

    Mark Ort:

    20:25-20:33

    But Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5 makes almost the exact same application.

    Mark Ort:

    20:33-20:43

    Again, he's talking about the day of the Lord, tribulation type stuff, the day of the Lord, like Zephaniah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:45-20:47

    I heard some sermons about that recently.

    Mark Ort:

    20:47-20:49

    Yeah, it seems kind of fresh, doesn't it?

    Mark Ort:

    20:49-20:50

    But he's talking about those things.

    Mark Ort:

    20:51-20:57

    And again, so my question is, well, how does the Bible apply end times teaching?

    Mark Ort:

    20:57-21:04

    And here it is, he says, "So then, let us not sleep as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober.

    Mark Ort:

    21:04-21:07

    Those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night.

    Mark Ort:

    21:08-21:17

    But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate faith and love and for a helmet, the hope of salvation.

    Mark Ort:

    21:17-21:27

    He says, "For God has not destined us for wrath, "but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, "who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, "we might live with him.

    Mark Ort:

    21:28-21:39

    "Therefore, encourage one another "and build one another up just as you are doing." Now, I wanna focus on that last verse here because the nature of this question, it's very personal.

    Mark Ort:

    21:39-21:48

    Like, yes, I know the love of Christ, I'm ready for Him to come, and I'm struggling with just the normal things of life, work and job and finances.

    Mark Ort:

    21:48-21:51

    And this is where the rubber meets the road.

    Mark Ort:

    21:51-22:00

    Like, yeah, I get the Bible answer, preacher, but like my day-to-day living, how do I persevere in light of the return of Christ?

    Mark Ort:

    22:02-22:12

    And the very last thing that I read here, verse 11, he says, "Therefore, encourage one another and build one another up just as you are doing.

    Mark Ort:

    22:14-22:18

    And that's one of the big reasons at Harvest Bible Chapel we have small groups.

    Mark Ort:

    22:18-22:24

    We're not a church with small groups, we're a church of small groups, and we encourage people to be in a small group.

    Mark Ort:

    22:24-22:26

    Why? For lots of reasons, but here's one.

    Mark Ort:

    22:27-22:31

    Small groups should be the place where you're encouraging one another and building one another up.

    Mark Ort:

    22:32-22:45

    You know, we've said it a thousand times, if your church involvement is, I slip in on Sunday late, and I slip out early, and I'll see you next Sunday." You're not going to feel very connected here at the church.

    Mark Ort:

    22:46-22:59

    It's through the relationships that form through Christian fellowship and small group ministry where things like this are fulfilled, where people are encouraging you to persevere

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:59-23:03

    and go strong in all of these categories that he's talking about.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:04-23:05

    Yeah, I totally agree with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:09-23:13

    If you're in a small group, you don't need me to tell you this 'cause you already know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:14-23:17

    It's not just that Wednesday night or that Thursday night thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:18-23:23

    You're all through the week talking with one another, whether it's on a phone or email or text.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:23-23:24

    People don't use email anymore, do they?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:25-23:25

    I don't know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:27-23:39

    If I get a text from like Dawn Saber during the week or a phone call from somebody, I'm like, you know, it just like makes my whole day, you know, like I'm ready to go.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:39-23:41

    And that happens all throughout the week.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:42-23:43

    And it's encouraging.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:43-23:49

    It's great to know that somebody's thinking about me, praying for me, lifting me up.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:50-23:52

    That's how we persevere, I believe.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:52-23:52

    Amen,

    Mark Ort:

    23:53-23:53

    amen.

    Mark Ort:

    23:55-23:57

    That's true of the relationships in the church, right?

    Mark Ort:

    23:57-24:06

    You have to have relationships, not just like, "How do you do's on Sunday morning?" but like, invested in each other's lives.

    Mark Ort:

    24:06-24:09

    Which is another great thing with this men's group that's starting up.

    Mark Ort:

    24:10-24:11

    Relationships.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:12-24:13

    Yeah, we're not meant to be alone. - No.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:15-24:16

    Alright, next one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:18-24:22

    "In Revelation, John sees the events of the end times.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:22-24:27

    And since John is a saved man, would he also be seeing himself in the future?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:28-24:30

    meaning that there would be a past John and a future John.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:31-24:43

    Also, if John is there for the end times that he already had seen, wouldn't he have known that the Lamb was worthy to open the scroll and break the seals?

    Mark Ort:

    24:45-24:50

    I love this question because this question reminds me of Back to the Future.

    Mark Ort:

    24:51-24:57

    And I don't know who wrote this question, but I have a guess that this person I also was a Back to the Future fan.

    Mark Ort:

    24:58-25:09

    That John was like, "I've got to get my parents to dance at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance." And he's carrying around that photograph, and James is vanishing from the photograph.

    Mark Ort:

    25:11-25:12

    Apparently nobody here has seen Back to the Future.

    Mark Ort:

    25:14-25:15

    It sounds like you've seen it too much.

    Mark Ort:

    25:16-25:16

    Alright, Mark.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:18-25:32

    One of the things that I just want to mention about this, and it's more of a general thing about prophecy, and Jeff has mentioned this several times preached about prophecy, that there's a near fulfillment and a far fulfillment, did I have that right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:33-25:33

    Yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:34-25:42

    But Kristen and I, we were watching this video from a guy, his name's Bob Morris, and he's from Hadavar Ministries, and he was doing a series on Isaiah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:44-25:50

    He's not talking about John, he was talking about Isaiah, but there's a principle or an analogy that he gave.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:51-25:58

    And, you know, I know analogies sometimes have, weak points to them, but you might get the picture with this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:59-26:03

    He gave an analogy of a traffic reporter in a helicopter.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:04-26:12

    And the helicopter goes up with the traffic reporter and you're in, we'll say that you're in, you know, Wexford.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:13-26:14

    You're in Wexford right now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:14-26:18

    You're in Wexford and you're going to go to Pittsburgh and you're going to go down 19.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:19-26:28

    The traffic reporter, he sees you, or he sees Wexford, and he sees that there's an accident on Route 19 five miles away.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:28-26:30

    You don't know the accidents there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:30-26:33

    That accident, to you, is future.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:33-26:36

    You're going to get stuck in traffic, you know, ten minutes from now or whatever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:37-26:38

    You don't know that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:38-26:44

    But the traffic reporter, he radios back to the station and says, "Hey, we have an accident on 19.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:45-26:54

    Traffic's blocked up." hear it on the radio and now you sort of know what's going to come down in your future ten minutes from now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:54-27:07

    And he said it's kind of that way with how Isaiah or John, they were seeing things in the future because they were up here and they could see the timeline.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:08-27:08

    Does that make sense?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:09-27:10

    I think that's a really good

    Mark Ort:

    27:10-27:11

    analogy.

    Mark Ort:

    27:13-27:15

    Does that resonate with anybody else?

    Mark Ort:

    27:16-27:16

    Just me?

    Mark Ort:

    27:17-27:18

    Is that helpful?

    Mark Ort:

    27:18-27:18

    Okay.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:19-27:22

    But what about this future John and stuff?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:22-27:22

    What do you think about that?

    27:23-27:28

    Well, I

    Mark Ort:

    27:28-27:29

    thought a lot about that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:30-27:31

    I know you have.

    27:36-27:36

    And

    Mark Ort:

    27:36-27:40

    the thing is, like, obviously John doesn't mention that.

    Mark Ort:

    27:41-27:48

    You know, John at no point in Revelation was like, "And then behold, I saw the Lamb step forth, and hey, hang on a second, there's me.

    Mark Ort:

    27:49-27:54

    I'm looking good." I mean, he doesn't mention that at all.

    Mark Ort:

    27:55-27:57

    And why doesn't he mention that?

    Mark Ort:

    27:58-28:00

    Because that's really not the point.

    Mark Ort:

    28:00-28:05

    The point of Revelation, he says, to show the things that must soon take place.

    Mark Ort:

    28:06-28:13

    So Revelation is about mainly outlining what happens during the seven-year tribulation, you know, Daniel's 70th week.

    Mark Ort:

    28:14-28:20

    He's mainly showing us that and showing us what the eternal state is going to look like.

    Mark Ort:

    28:21-28:23

    So that's his main focus.

    Mark Ort:

    28:24-28:32

    And when we read a prophecy like that, I just want to remind you of 1 Corinthians 4.6.

    Mark Ort:

    28:33-28:37

    And this is a whole sermon here, but I'm gonna try to keep it short.

    Mark Ort:

    28:38-28:54

    Paul says, "I have applied all these things to myself and to Paul as for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written." And what he's saying is sometimes we want to go beyond what the Bible actually says.

    Mark Ort:

    28:56-28:58

    And I think it's fun to think about these things.

    Mark Ort:

    28:58-29:04

    Did John see himself and what was that like, etc.?

    Mark Ort:

    29:04-29:09

    But Paul gives us a warning here that we don't want to go beyond what the Bible actually says.

    Mark Ort:

    29:09-29:09

    Right?

    Mark Ort:

    29:10-29:13

    I don't know if John saw himself.

    Mark Ort:

    29:14-29:15

    And the point is it doesn't matter.

    Mark Ort:

    29:16-29:24

    Because John, through inspiration of the Holy Spirit, through this vision, told us what God wanted us to know, right?

    Mark Ort:

    29:25-29:27

    God told us what He wanted us to know.

    Mark Ort:

    29:27-29:29

    And it gets back to Deuteronomy 29.29.

    Mark Ort:

    29:29-30:20

    The secret things belong to the Lord, but the things He's revealed belong to us, and children there's some things God wants us to know he's like I wrote them down and other things I mean we can talk about we can sort of imagine and wonder but we just don't know and that's what I have my notes here it's okay to say IDK right it's okay to say IDK John was communicating what God wanted us to know So Because when you especially when you deal with like Timeline things in future and the fact that John was transported in time and place There's there's a lot of I mean I had a hard time keeping up with back to the future let alone You know trying to wrap my brain around what John experienced

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:22-30:29

    All right you ready for the next one I'm ready all right Were multiple marriages in the Old Testament considered a sin?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:30-30:32

    For example, David had multiple wives.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:32-30:39

    If that was considered a sin, and he continued to live in the sin, seemingly unrepentant, why did God still use him?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:39-30:44

    Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, and God still used him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:45-30:46

    Was Solomon saved?

    Mark Ort:

    30:48-30:56

    I get a laugh because these guys had hundreds of wives, and Solomon had 300 porcupines or whatever.

    Mark Ort:

    30:56-31:03

    And I'm like, yeah, Solomon was wise, but I get to wonder, was Solomon a little crazy?

    Mark Ort:

    31:03-31:05

    I can't barely handle one wife.

    Mark Ort:

    31:07-31:11

    And he had like an army of them.

    Mark Ort:

    31:11-31:15

    I'm like, what were you thinking?

    Mark Ort:

    31:16-31:18

    And was Solomon saved?

    Mark Ort:

    31:18-31:19

    Yeah, he was saved.

    Mark Ort:

    31:19-31:24

    I believe Solomon was saved because despite his sin, God spoke to him directly, right?

    Mark Ort:

    31:25-31:29

    1 Kings 3, remember God shows up, "Ask me anything, I'll give it to you." And he asked for wisdom and he got it.

    Mark Ort:

    31:30-31:34

    And Solomon wrote many of the Proverbs, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes.

    Mark Ort:

    31:34-31:43

    I'd have a real hard time wrapping my brain around the thought that God wrote a giant chunk of his word through somebody that's not saved.

    Mark Ort:

    31:44-31:48

    I just, that just doesn't ring with God's character at all.

    Mark Ort:

    31:50-32:02

    Furthermore, God uses flawed people because we all are, right?

    Mark Ort:

    32:02-32:04

    Except Jesus Christ, obviously, who is God.

    Mark Ort:

    32:05-32:12

    But outside of perfect God /Man/Jesus, God works through imperfect people.

    Mark Ort:

    32:12-32:22

    So, we get to the Old Testament, and we're like, "What's up with all this polygamy and all these wives?" Well, to be clear, polygamy is a sin.

    Mark Ort:

    32:24-32:33

    And I would remind you that Old Testament accounts often are descriptive, not prescriptive.

    Mark Ort:

    32:34-32:40

    Meaning, nowhere in the Old Testament does it say Solomon had 700 wives, go and do likewise.

    Mark Ort:

    32:41-32:43

    It doesn't say that, right?

    Mark Ort:

    32:43-32:54

    Actually, what it says, 1 Kings 11, we're not going to turn there, but Solomon's wives caused a lot of problems because they led him into idolatry.

    Mark Ort:

    32:55-33:19

    So if we had Solomon here right now, and we're like, "Hey, we've got a question for you." You know, you're a thousand women, good idea or bad idea, he would be like, "It wasn't good." And it's funny because even before this question was submitted, I read an article that suggested that polygamy was introduced to Israel through the whole ordeal with Jacob.

    Mark Ort:

    33:20-33:24

    He wanted Rachel, he was tricked into marrying Leah, and then he ended up marrying Rachel.

    Mark Ort:

    33:26-33:37

    But because Laban was a pagan, Jacob was like, "Well, my new father-in-law is going to think it's cool if I marry both of his wives." So he marries multiple women.

    Mark Ort:

    33:37-33:44

    Now Israel's looking at the father of the nation, they're like, "Well, Jacob had multiple wives, so it must be okay." It's not okay.

    Mark Ort:

    33:45-33:54

    And we know it's not okay because Jesus, when He was asked about marriage and divorce and all these things, Matthew 19, Jesus said, "Have you not read from the beginning?

    Mark Ort:

    33:55-34:11

    He created them, male and female, therefore for this purpose, a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." Jesus said God's purpose from creation was one man for one woman in the covenant of marriage, one lifetime.

    Mark Ort:

    34:12-34:14

    Jesus said that was always God's plan.

    Mark Ort:

    34:14-34:23

    So yeah, there was some people in Old Testament Israel that severely deviated from that plan and it didn't work out well for them at all.

    Mark Ort:

    34:23-34:23

    And

    34:23-34:24

    God

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:24-34:25

    used him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:25-34:33

    I mean, his thing was wives and like our thing might be materialism or eating, overeating or whatever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:35-34:36

    And he still uses us, right?

    Mark Ort:

    34:37-34:39

    Yeah, we are flawed people.

    Mark Ort:

    34:39-34:43

    And it's like our friend Dan would say, it's not about perfection, but direction.

    Mark Ort:

    34:44-34:47

    Are we growing and seeking and striving to know?

    Mark Ort:

    34:47-34:52

    You know, we don't just excuse sin to be like, well, nobody's perfect, so we might as well just all sin.

    Mark Ort:

    34:53-34:55

    Jesus paid it all, so let's get our money's worth.

    Mark Ort:

    34:55-34:57

    Or just these foolish things that people say.

    Mark Ort:

    34:57-35:08

    We're like, we're striving to grow in Christ likeness, knowing that while we're living in this flesh, we are not going to see perfection until glory.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:09-35:13

    And it's pretty awesome to know that God would even use us at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:13-35:13

    Oh,

    Mark Ort:

    35:14-35:15

    isn't that the truth? - It's amazing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:15-35:17

    All right, let's move on.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:17-35:21

    Why are there so many different versions of the Bible, specifically the message?

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:22-35:28

    I know it gets the same point across, but it says something completely different than my NIV or ESV.

    Mark Ort:

    35:29-35:30

    Okay, so many different translations.

    Mark Ort:

    35:31-35:35

    Well, the Bible wasn't written in English, it was written in Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek.

    Mark Ort:

    35:35-35:41

    So the Bibles that we have in English had to have been taken from those languages and translated.

    Mark Ort:

    35:41-35:46

    Why are there so many different translations? Well, there's different principles of translation.

    Mark Ort:

    35:47-35:49

    Some are translated word for word.

    Mark Ort:

    35:50-36:01

    Like we're looking at the Hebrew word and the Aramaic word and the Greek word and we're going to find the English equivalent and transfer word for word. Some are translated thought for thought.

    Mark Ort:

    36:02-36:13

    Like this is what is being communicated, this is the sense in which these words are used, so we're going to find the English equivalent, word for word versus thought for thought.

    Mark Ort:

    36:13-36:27

    So, yeah, your Bibles can read pretty differently with the same verbiage, but I'm just gonna be honest with you, from my perspective, I am not a translation Nazi.

    Mark Ort:

    36:28-36:52

    I know some people are, and if there's a translation Nazi here the stream, you are loved too. I'm not one of those people, because you know some people that are like, "The NIV? Ha, what does that mean? The Nearly Inspired Version? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha." I'm like, "Oh, you're hilarious. You're hilarious." Can you get the basic gospel message out of the NIV?

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:53-36:53

    Yes, you can.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:53-36:53

    Yes,

    Mark Ort:

    36:53-36:54

    you can.

    Mark Ort:

    36:54-37:13

    And the ESV and the NASB and the King James and except for these, like, you know, you're gonna get some oddball translation that like wants to change all the pronouns or like some really weird, creepy, woke version of the Bible just-- - And they exist.

    Mark Ort:

    37:13-37:13

    They exist.

    Mark Ort:

    37:14-37:15

    I'm not talking about those.

    Mark Ort:

    37:15-37:20

    I'm talking about, you know, your NIVs and your King James and New King James and ESVs.

    Mark Ort:

    37:20-37:21

    And I'm talking about those.

    Mark Ort:

    37:22-37:24

    You can get the gospel message.

    Mark Ort:

    37:24-37:29

    Some translations are better than others in certain parts, but at the

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:29-37:32

    root, honestly, you get the gospel message.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:34-37:42

    And we, just real quickly, we needed different versions, I think, because language changes, doesn't it?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:43-37:43

    Yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:43-37:44

    Language changes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:44-37:47

    I mean, and I can prove that with a couple of words.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:47-37:52

    I mean, the word gay 100 years ago meant something different than it does today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:52-37:55

    And I'm not saying anything against the people.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:55-37:59

    I'm just saying, don't miss the point about the language changing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:00-38:00

    The words, yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:00-38:01

    And the word brave.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:02-38:04

    I mean, how much has the word brave changed in the last year?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:06-38:06

    Am I right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:07-38:15

    If you look in your Bibles, if you have a King James and you look at Philippians 3.20, it says your conversation is in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:16-38:19

    The newer versions say your citizenship is in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:19-38:27

    And that's a better translation because citizenship more closely matches the Greek word there in our vernacular.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:28-38:30

    When the King James was written, they used the word conversation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:31-38:31

    Right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:31-38:32

    They don't use that anymore for that.

    Mark Ort:

    38:32-38:38

    Yeah, King James uses words like lasciviousness and concupiscence and we're like, what does that mean?

    Mark Ort:

    38:38-38:39

    What was that word?

    Mark Ort:

    38:39-38:47

    Yeah, so they, you know, we, and more modern translations use words that people are more familiar with.

    Mark Ort:

    38:48-38:52

    So it's not like Bible in one hand, dictionary in the other, looking up all these words.

    Mark Ort:

    38:53-38:55

    But the basic gospel message is the same, right?

    Mark Ort:

    38:56-39:09

    You're a sinner, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh came, died on the cross for your sin, rose from the dead to give you eternal life, and we are called to turn from our sin and believe in what God has done through Jesus Christ.

    Mark Ort:

    39:10-39:14

    You can get that message in most translations.

    Mark Ort:

    39:15-39:15

    All right,

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:15-39:16

    related to that, next question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:17-39:21

    How do we know the Bible we have today is God's complete Word?

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:21-39:25

    How does the Apocrypha and other extra-biblical literature factor in?

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:26-39:34

    How can we be confident in it when it was seemingly assembled and decided by humans during various meetings and councils?

    Mark Ort:

    39:34-39:36

    That is a fantastic question.

    Mark Ort:

    39:38-39:41

    Why don't you share? You used an analogy about...

    39:41-39:42

    Yeah,

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:42-39:51

    I studied a little bit about this in the past, and we actually had lessons about this particular thing some years ago here at church in men's group.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:53-39:59

    But there were councils along the way, and the councils didn't decide anything.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:00-40:02

    They recognized things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:02-40:03

    There's a huge difference there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:04-40:10

    And let me just share what I mean by that, and I'm going to pick on Darren Miller for a second.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:12-40:18

    We didn't get together as elders and decide that Darren was a talented musician.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    We recognize that he is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:22-40:23

    You see the difference?

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:23-40:24

    We didn't make that decision at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:25-40:40

    And the early councils that got together on the scriptures, they combed through them meticulously and they recognized what was inspired from God and what wasn't.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:41-40:43

    and they did that based on some criteria.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:44-40:46

    There was the authority of the writer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:47-40:51

    In the Old Testament, it had to be a lawgiver, a prophet, or a leader in Israel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:51-40:52

    Like Moses, for example.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:52-40:55

    When they look at Moses, Moses was the man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:56-41:00

    Like, the stuff that he wrote, there was no question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:01-41:02

    It was straight from God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:04-41:07

    The second thing was internal evidence.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:07-41:09

    Was it orthodox teaching?

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:10-41:11

    Was it verified by other Scriptures?

    Pastor Jeff:

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    Did it have a high moral value?

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:15-41:20

    Was it extraordinary in what was written?

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:20-41:31

    And then a couple other things, it had a surprising reception by the early church, and the relevance, widespread and long -term usage in the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:32-41:38

    So those were the kind of things that went into recognizing what was Scripture and what wasn't.

    Mark Ort:

    41:39-41:53

    The whole process is called canonization, and the word "canon" means "measuring rod." I have a whole thing here, four categories of canonization, but it went through this process.

    Mark Ort:

    41:55-41:56

    Our time's up.

    Mark Ort:

    41:56-41:58

    But I just want to say one thing about the Apocrypha.

    Mark Ort:

    42:00-42:02

    Because people ask about the Apocrypha a lot.

    Mark Ort:

    42:02-42:03

    Just real quick.

    Mark Ort:

    42:04-42:16

    Apocrypha means "hidden," And those books are not included in the canon because their authoritative status is disputed, whether it's by doctrine or authorship, as you talked about, Mark, or both.

    Mark Ort:

    42:17-42:24

    They're Jewish in origin, even though the Jews themselves often don't consider them as authoritative.

    Mark Ort:

    42:25-42:32

    They're in the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the Septuagint, but they are not in the Hebrew translation of the Old Testament.

    Mark Ort:

    42:33-42:59

    And the interesting thing about the Apocrypha was during the Reformation, like the Apocrypha wasn't part of the canon at all, during the Reformation there were some Christians that were like, "There are some Catholic doctrines that we don't believe in, we don't see them biblically." So the Catholic Church at the time added the Apocrypha back into the canon to say, "Oh yeah, these doctrines that we, they're in the Bible, see?

    Mark Ort:

    43:00-43:03

    They're just in the Apocrypha." But there's a lot of problems with that.

    Mark Ort:

    43:05-43:08

    Even the Apocrypha itself doesn't claim to be inspired.

    Mark Ort:

    43:10-43:18

    I have references and things here that we can talk about another day, but it doesn't claim to be inspired.

    Mark Ort:

    43:19-43:40

    But something very noteworthy regarding the authority or lack of concern of the Apocrypha, Jesus, and I'll jot this reference down, especially whoever wrote this question, Luke 24-27, Jesus explained prophecies regarding him as coming from Moses and the prophets.

    Mark Ort:

    43:41-43:51

    And not only did Jesus never quote from the Apocrypha, none of the New Testament writers gave a direct quote from the Apocrypha.

    Mark Ort:

    43:52-43:54

    So, that's a little bit about that.

    Mark Ort:

    43:56-44:01

    There are some more good questions on here, but those will be showing up on our blog.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:01-44:03

    I know, I'm so bummed, because they were good.

    Mark Ort:

    44:04-44:08

    Well, I'm just wanting to make sure that you have a happy afternoon in your home.

    Mark Ort:

    44:09-44:10

    Thank you.

    Mark Ort:

    44:10-44:12

    So would you pray for us, Mark?

    Mark Ort:

    44:12-44:15

    And thank you for everyone that submitted the questions.

    Mark Ort:

    44:15-44:29

    We'll be working on getting the rest on the website over the coming weeks, but we appreciate the fact that we're a church of Bereans who are searching the Scriptures to see the truth of God's Word.

    Mark Ort:

    44:29-44:29

    So,

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:30-44:31

    Mark, pray for us, please.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:31-44:31

    All right, let's pray.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:33-44:44

    Lord God, we thank you so much for our time this morning, where we get to sing songs and learn of you in your Word, in our Sunday morning service.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:45-44:53

    We get to get together and fellowship with one another, and smile, and cry, and pray over things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    44:54-45:06

    Lord, this is a good place to be. We love being here. We're grateful that we can come and that we're still free to do so. Lord, thank you so much for the encouragement that we find in your Word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:07-45:20

    I thank you for the encouragement we find in one another, for our small groups and for our studies that we do together and our just getting together as fellow believers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:21-45:25

    Lord, I thank you for all that's going on in our church and what you're doing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:26-45:34

    Our missions, outreaches, and the kids ministry, and this worship team that's about to close us out today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:35-45:41

    Lord, all the teams that do so much for us and with us, and we thank you for them.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:41-45:55

    And Lord, we can never forget the great sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross to suffer and bleed and die so that we might have eternal life.

    Pastor Jeff:

    45:55-46:00

    So that as we sang earlier, that all the world can come to Him and have their sins removed.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:01-46:02

    Lord, that's amazing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:03-46:05

    And we are so appreciative of that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:06-46:08

    Thank you for that opportunity, Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:08-46:13

    And may we live for this Jesus that died for us and gave us life.

    Pastor Jeff:

    46:16-46:17

    Thank you, Lord, in Jesus' name we pray,

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    amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):

Review the questions submitted above. Discuss any of these that stuck out to you, or that maybe your group finds particularly interesting.

Breakout Questions:
Pray for one another!

The Day of the Lord is Near - Can You Imagine?

Introduction:

Gone Forever: 5 Things That Will Soon Be Behind Us (Zephaniah 3:9-20):

  1. Our Shame: gone forever. (Zeph 3:9-11)
  2. Our Sin: gone forever. (Zeph 3:12-13)
  3. Our Want: gone forever. (Zeph 3:13)
  4. Our Fear: gone forever. (Zeph 3:14-16)
  5. Our Doubt: gone forever. (Zeph 3:17)

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  • 00:49-00:55

    Open up your Bibles with me please to the book of Zephaniah, chapter 3.

    00:58-01:00

    Alright, Zephaniah chapter 3, are you there?

    01:01-01:15

    Zephaniah has one message, and that is this, "The day of the Lord is near." Zephaniah was preaching before Judah was conquered by Babylon.

    01:16-01:24

    And I'd just like to remind you that, like a lot of the Old Testament prophets, there's a near fulfillment and there's a far fulfillment.

    01:24-01:29

    The near fulfillment for Zephaniah was what was about to happen to Judah with Babylon.

    01:29-01:38

    Like hey, we're about to suffer God's chastisement upon us for our sin, but the prophecy had a long fulfillment.

    01:39-01:45

    A far fulfillment, which is the day of the Lord, which is coming very soon.

    01:47-01:49

    End of the world type stuff.

    01:49-01:51

    Revelation type stuff.

    01:51-01:53

    The day of the Lord is near.

    01:53-02:25

    So just as Zephaniah stood before Judah and said, "Hey, God is bringing His judgment." In the same sense, I can stand before you today declaring the Word of God from Zephaniah and echo the exact same message to say, "Hey, the day of the Lord is near." Now, when we talk about the day of the Lord, as we have the last three weeks, we need to note that the day of the Lord is not the end.

    02:27-02:29

    The day of the Lord needs to be seen as a beginning.

    02:31-02:37

    Did you ever see someone just completely lose their temper and just smash something?

    02:38-02:40

    Have you ever seen somebody, how many people have seen somebody do that?

    02:41-02:46

    Okay, how many people here have actually done, done, done, done, done, don't raise your hand.

    02:46-02:49

    Some of you have, honest, honest, contrite people.

    02:50-02:51

    So, okay, some of us have done that, right?

    02:51-02:56

    Where we just completely lose our temper, and we just smash something.

    02:59-03:05

    Well, when we talk about the day of the Lord and we go through passages like we did the last couple of weeks, I think some people can look at God like that.

    03:06-03:14

    But some people look at the Lord, like the Lord's watching this sin and He's up in heaven just like, and then He's like, "That's it!

    03:16-03:24

    I'm smashing it all!" And He's just like, but that's what some people think that the day of the Lord is about, and it's not.

    03:24-03:30

    You see, judgment is not just simply for the sake of judgment.

    03:33-03:37

    It's for the sake of, You gotta catch this because this is the sermon today.

    03:37-03:40

    It's for the sake of renovation.

    03:42-03:43

    Renovation.

    03:47-03:59

    The house in which my family lives in beautiful, bustling economy borough, we bought it off of Ryan Stroop's brother, Matt, who is also a contractor.

    04:00-04:07

    And we understand that when he bought the house, it was pretty dilapidated.

    04:08-04:11

    It was in horrible, horrible shape.

    04:13-04:22

    So what Matt did was he went through and completely gutted the entire house in order to rebuild the entire house from the inside out.

    04:24-04:31

    And I suppose that if you would have went to that house while Matt was gutting it, watching him completely tear out the walls.

    04:32-04:36

    You might have watched him do that and thought, "Wow, look at this guy losing his temper.

    04:36-04:37

    Look at this guy destroying.

    04:38-04:38

    Why is he doing this?

    04:39-04:45

    Why is he destroying this house?" But if you went now, you would see why he did that.

    04:46-04:49

    He destroyed so that he could rebuild.

    04:50-04:52

    And church, that's how you need to see the day of the Lord.

    04:53-04:54

    Yes, God's judgment is coming.

    04:56-05:01

    But all renovation projects start with destruction projects.

    05:02-05:10

    And the destruction on the global house, so to speak, is seven years of God's wrath on the earth.

    05:11-05:12

    We call it the tribulation.

    05:14-05:15

    Zephaniah calls it the day of the Lord.

    05:18-05:19

    And we went through Revelation.

    05:19-05:21

    You can go back and re-listen to those messages sometime.

    05:23-05:26

    But in Revelation, God's deconstruction project looks like this.

    05:28-05:49

    War, famine, disease, earthquakes, stars falling from the sky, hail, waters becoming blood, waters becoming poisonous, the sun darkened, demons unleashed on the earth, sewers, the sun scorching people, darkness, ultimately leading to Armageddon when God assembles all the nations of the earth for the last battle.

    05:50-05:54

    which is exactly what Zephaniah talked about, by the way, in chapter 3 and verse 8.

    05:58-06:00

    Those days are so near, church.

    06:01-06:05

    You're seeing the preview of these things on TV right now.

    06:05-06:05

    You're watching.

    06:06-06:08

    The birth pains are happening.

    06:08-06:09

    Are you ready for this?

    06:10-06:11

    Because it's coming.

    06:13-06:14

    It's coming.

    06:16-07:13

    of the Lord is near. You're like, "Well then what?" Then what? Okay, so God's going to do his deconstruction, then what? Well, when we think about life and death and heaven and all of these things, I think people in general just want to boil it down to it being this Here's what happens. Okay, when I receive Jesus Christ, when I believe in Him, I'm going to die someday, and then I'm going to go to heaven, and that's it. That's it, right? I think a lot of people think that. That's how it goes. I just die and go to heaven. Done! But we often forget, church, that the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ is going to reign on the earth for a thousand years in Jerusalem.

    07:14-07:30

    I just think we sort of take that chunk of history out of our minds, but the Bible says, 1,000 years, Jesus Christ, after the tribulation, is going to reign in Jerusalem, and we will reign with Him.

    07:32-07:34

    Revelation chapter 20 talks about this.

    07:35-07:41

    Revelation 20, six times in that passage, six times it talks about the thousand year reign of Christ.

    07:41-07:42

    But you know what's interesting?

    07:43-07:47

    In the book of Revelation, he never gives any detail about the millennial reign of Christ.

    07:47-07:57

    A thousand years, a thousand years, Jesus is reigning for a thousand years, we're reigning on the earth for a thousand years, and John doesn't give us one detail about it, not one thing, not a, why doesn't John give us any detail?

    07:57-08:00

    Why doesn't he tell us what the thousand year reign of Christ is like?

    08:00-08:01

    Do you know why?

    08:03-08:05

    Because it's all through the Old Testament prophets.

    08:05-08:10

    That's why. It's all through Zephaniah and Isaiah and these prophets.

    08:10-08:13

    That's why John doesn't re-cover that ground.

    08:13-08:20

    He's like, "You guys know the Scriptures." That's exactly what we're going to be talking about today.

    08:22-08:25

    Okay? Quick word of theology, then we're going to get to the text.

    08:27-08:42

    These Old Testament prophets, like Zephaniah, were giving promises directed at Israel about their ultimate restoration in the millennial kingdom of Messiah, who we know is Jesus Christ.

    08:45-08:51

    And during the tribulation which is coming, the seven years of God's judgment, His deconstruction project, the day of the Lord.

    08:51-08:55

    During the tribulation, there's going to be a mass revival in Israel.

    08:56-09:04

    The Bible tells us countless Jews are going to become believers in Jesus Christ, are going to come to believe in Jesus as their Messiah.

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    You're like, "Well, what about us Gentiles?" Well, these promises that we're looking at in Zephaniah are for us too.

    09:16-09:24

    The Bible tells us, Romans 11.17, that Gentiles are grafted into God's redemptive plan for Israel.

    09:24-09:33

    All of it is thanks to the salvation that's been purchased for us by Jesus Christ, which making us one.

    09:34-09:34

    Alright?

    09:36-09:39

    That was a whole lot of theology in like a minute.

    09:41-09:48

    But it's important for us to understand what he's talking about here because the next few minutes aren't going to make any sense unless you understand.

    09:48-09:52

    He's talking about the millennial reign of Messiah, Jesus Christ.

    09:52-09:53

    What is it like?

    09:54-09:58

    Why is God deconstructing the earth with His judgment?

    09:58-10:00

    It's so that He can rebuild it.

    10:03-10:06

    This is why we take time in the Old Testament prophets.

    10:06-10:12

    These promises are for us too because we are going to be living in the millennial reign of Jesus Christ.

    10:12-10:15

    Everyone who follows Jesus Christ will.

    10:15-10:26

    So glorious restoration, renovation project that God's going to use to bring in the kingdom.

    10:27-10:39

    So on your outline, in order to make the millennium glorious, like getting a house, there's a lot of old things that need done away with, right?

    10:40-10:47

    I'm very thankful, the house we live in, that Matt Stroop didn't just put new walls over top of the old walls, right?

    10:48-10:52

    Or put a coat of paint over something dilapidated.

    10:53-10:57

    There was deconstruction, so there could be construction.

    10:57-10:58

    Gone forever.

    10:59-11:00

    Here's what God's project looks like.

    11:00-11:03

    Here's five things that will soon be behind us eternally.

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    Number one, jot this down, our shame.

    11:09-11:10

    Gone forever.

    11:11-11:14

    Our shame will be gone forever.

    11:14-11:15

    Look at verse nine.

    11:16-11:34

    For at that time, I will change the speech of the peoples to a pure speech that all of them may call upon the name of the Lord and serve him with one accord "Beyond the rivers of Cush, my worshippers, the daughter of my dispersed ones, shall bring my offering.

    11:36-11:41

    On that day you shall not be put to shame because of the deeds by which you have rebelled against me.

    11:41-11:45

    For then I will remove from your midst your proudly exultant ones.

    11:45-11:52

    You shall no longer be haughty in my holy mountain." Did you catch that?

    11:54-11:57

    The first thing is going to be deconstructed God's renovation project.

    11:58-12:02

    He says, "I'm going to change the speech of the people." He's talking about transformation.

    12:02-12:05

    Some scholars think this is like the reversal of Babel.

    12:06-12:11

    And maybe there is an element of that, but it's pointing more towards the transformation of people.

    12:11-12:18

    That God's saying, "You're going to be new people." Because our character is often reflected in our speech.

    12:19-12:19

    Look at verse 11.

    12:20-12:27

    He says, "You shall not be put to shame." I just want you to think about that for a second.

    12:29-12:36

    In the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, your shame is gone.

    12:37-12:39

    There will be no painful memories.

    12:40-12:46

    And people often ask me about feeling regret and glory.

    12:49-12:52

    People often ask me, "You know what Jeff, I've made so many mistakes in my life.

    12:53-13:00

    I just feel like someday I'm gonna be like in heaven, and I'm gonna look back at my life on the earth, and I'm just gonna feel horrible because I've done so many mistakes.

    13:00-13:01

    Have you ever thought that?

    13:03-13:07

    How can it be that I don't experience shame from regret?

    13:08-13:13

    How can it be that I'm walking around heaven or here, the millennial kingdom of Christ, with Jesus right there?

    13:13-13:17

    How can I be right there, and knowing the stuff that I did, but the one I knew better?

    13:19-13:21

    How can I not be embarrassed?

    13:23-13:25

    How can I not feel shame?

    13:26-13:27

    I'm going to tell you how.

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    Because shame comes from guilt.

    13:33-13:37

    And when there's no guilt, there's no shame.

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    You see, look at verse 15 real quick.

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    The first part, he says, "The Lord has taken away the judgments against you." God says that your guilt is going to be gone.

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    And therefore your shame is going to be gone too.

    13:54-14:02

    That for all of eternity, starting in the millennium, you're not going to feel shame.

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    Because you're not going to have guilt.

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    You're like, "Dude, you seem pretty serious about this.

    14:07-14:12

    Why is this such a big deal?" Because shame is debilitating.

    14:12-14:13

    That's why.

    14:15-14:16

    Shame is debilitating.

    14:18-14:27

    For unbelievers, shame can consume you to the point of legit crippling mental illness.

    14:27-14:29

    You might know somebody like that.

    14:30-14:36

    They feel so much shame and personal embarrassment, they have a hard time functioning.

    14:40-14:42

    Shame can keep you from coming to God.

    14:45-14:45

    Right?

    14:45-14:49

    Do you remember the story of Adam and Eve, sin in the Garden of Eden?

    14:49-14:53

    Do you remember what they did after God was walking through the garden?

    14:54-14:55

    Remember what Adam and Eve did?

    14:55-14:57

    The Bible says they went and hid themselves.

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    Why did they do that?

    15:02-15:03

    Because they were ashamed.

    15:06-15:09

    And shame should make you run to God.

    15:10-15:12

    But so often we run from God.

    15:13-15:20

    I know I should be praying about this, but I'm so embarrassed I don't even feel like praying.

    15:20-15:21

    Have you ever been there?

    15:24-15:28

    There's no shame in His kingdom because guilt is done away with.

    15:31-15:34

    Run to God. He has a remedy for shame, you know.

    15:35-15:37

    We just celebrated at the Lord's table.

    15:38-15:42

    His remedy is Jesus Christ took your sin and shame on Himself on that cross.

    15:44-15:56

    Even for believers, even for those of us who know the gospel, even for those of us who right now know that before God we stand not guilty, we still struggle with shame.

    15:58-16:05

    But here He's pointing out, in this kingdom, there's going to be this ultimate realization on that day that our shame is gone.

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    Can you imagine what worship is going to be like without any element, twinge, hint, shadow of shame?

    16:14-16:15

    Do you know what worship is going to be like?

    16:17-16:18

    Completely uninhibited!

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    Do you know what fellowship is going to be like?

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    Completely uninhibited!

    16:24-16:26

    Our shame is going to be gone forever.

    16:27-16:30

    Number two, our sin is going to be gone forever.

    16:32-16:33

    Look at verse 12.

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    It says, "But I will leave in your midst a people, humble and lowly; they shall seek refuge in the name of the Lord.

    16:45-17:01

    Those who are left in Israel, they shall do no injustice and speak no lies, nor shall there be found in their mouth a deceitful tongue." The Bible says with sinners removed, the only people that are going to remain are the humble.

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    In other words, people who recognize their need for the Lord and who trust His provision.

    17:09-17:11

    But notice the sins that he mentions specifically.

    17:12-17:16

    He talks about injustice, and he talks about lies, and he talks about deceit.

    17:18-17:19

    See a common thread there?

    17:20-17:24

    These are all sins that we commit against each other.

    17:26-17:27

    And he says that's never going to happen again.

    17:29-17:32

    We're no longer living in sinful flesh.

    17:32-17:33

    Sin's going to be gone forever.

    17:34-17:36

    And sinning is going to be gone forever.

    17:37-17:40

    And gloriously there will be no animosity of any kind.

    17:44-18:22

    Because on that day, we are going to be unified, thoroughly, in a way that we've never experienced on earth. Even in a church like this, that is so family oriented and fellowship oriented, and even you are going to be amazed at the level of fellowship that is coming because of sin being gone. There's no animosity whatsoever. It's gone forever.

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    Number three, our want.

    18:26-18:28

    Our want is gone forever.

    18:29-18:31

    Look at verse 13 again.

    18:31-18:38

    The last part says, "For they shall graze and lie down, and none shall make them afraid." They shall graze and lie down.

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    They shall graze and lie down, Bible students.

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    Does that sound familiar at all?

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    Can you think of maybe a famous popular Bible passage that talks about grazing and lying down?

    18:50-18:51

    Shout it out if you know it.

    18:52-18:54

    Yeah, Psalm 23, right?

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    And how does that one go?

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    The Lord is my shepherd.

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    What's the next line?

    19:01-19:02

    I shall not want.

    19:03-19:08

    He makes me lie down in green pastures, right?

    19:08-19:10

    And here it's coming full circle.

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    Just like in the 23rd Psalm, this is a picture of total satisfaction and fulfillment at the hands of the Good Shepherd Jesus Christ.

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    That you're not going to want for anything in His Kingdom.

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    Can you imagine?

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    It's hard to imagine because our life existence now is all about getting and needing and...

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    But in His Kingdom we're not going to be worrying about paying the bills.

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    No one is starving.

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    Nothing is lacking.

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    No one is walking around going, "I need, I'm desperate for." Everything's gonna be met.

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    Every need's going to be met.

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    They shall graze and lie down.

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    Just sheep provided for by his shepherd.

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    By the way, on that day, being called a sheep won't be seen as an insult.

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    Like, "You're a sheep." Like, "Yeah, I am." My shepherd provides for me.

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    Gone forever.

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    Five things that will soon be behind us.

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    Number four, our fear.

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    Gone forever.

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    Look at verses 14-16.

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    He says, "Sing aloud, O daughter of Zion.

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    Shout, O Israel!

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    Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.

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    The Lord has taken away the judgments against you.

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    He has cleared away your enemies.

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    The King of Israel, the Lord - that's Jesus - is in your midst, "You shall never again fear evil." On that day, it shall be said to Jerusalem, "Fear not, O Zion, let not your hands grow weak." You know what else has gone forever?

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    Is fear.

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    Fear is gone forever.

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    Fear is going to be gone forever.

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    In the millennial kingdom of Jesus Christ, every single one of us will be driving a pickup and emblazoned across the top of the windshield will be a phrase. No fear! Some of you remember that right? Remember that trend?

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    Remember that trend? Some of you are like, "What's he talking about?" Some of you know.

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    Some of you know. Pepperidge Farm remembers. Some of you know. No fear. No fear. Google it kids. Not now. Later. No fear.

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    We don't realize how much fear plays a part in our lives. We don't realize how much fear is a factor in our daily lives. We just we don't realize that now. And I know when I say that I know right away there are some people that are like, "I don't know who you're talking to preacher boy. I ain't afraid afraid of nothing. You were thinking that Jack, weren't you? You're afraid of everything.

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    I was thinking of you Jack when I wrote that particular line in my message. There's going to be somebody sitting there going, "I'm tuning out of this part of the sermon because I ain't afraid of nothing. I'm not afraid of nothing. This part of the sermon is for other people because I ain't afraid of nothing.

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    And I would say, "Really?

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    "Really?

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    "Fear is not a factor in your life at all, really?" No, not me.

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    What about for your loved ones?

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    Maybe you're not worried about your life, but do you have any fear for those that you care about?

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    Yes, you do.

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    Because if you don't, you're a monster.

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    So see, now when you think about it that way, can I make the statement again?

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    That we all live in some element of fear?

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    I do.

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    Again, not for me, I don't care.

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    For my wife and for my children?

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    Yeah, I'm afraid.

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    I'm afraid.

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    Did you see a week or two ago, the reports of the shooting at Ross Park Mall and there were all these stories.

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    There were eight shots fired, there were three shots fired, there were no shots fired.

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    You know, a thousand people dead, nobody dead.

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    I mean, I have no idea what happened, even though I looked that one up.

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    I don't know what happened.

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    But I do know this.

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    I've thought differently about going to Ross Park Mall.

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    How about you?

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    Have you thought about that?

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    Here's a factor.

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    The very fact that we have a ministry at this church called the security team tells us that fear plays some kind of a factor in our lives, right?

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    You're like, "Not me." Do you have your concealed carry license?

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    That means you have an element of fear.

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    Otherwise, you wouldn't need to think about carrying a weapon.

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    And we worry about the dangers of our kids.

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    You know, Dan and Alicia were just up here with their grads.

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    You don't feel any twinge of fear thinking that they're going to be launched into a demonic world?

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    And do I even need to talk about the pandemic?

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    You're like, "No, but I have a feeling you're going to." Yes, I am.

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    We've seen fear-mongering on an unprecedented level.

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    Last year, during the height of the lockdown, or whatever you want to call it, I'm not going to mention names, but there was a certain governor of our state that got on TV.

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    And I'm paraphrasing here, but you can look it up.

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    This isn't hyperbole, this is a paraphrase.

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    But he got on TV and he said, that virus is waiting right outside your door.

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    Do you remember this speech?

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    That virus is waiting right outside your door.

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    It's just waiting for you to let your guard down.

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    It's just waiting for you to go outside because it's looking for someone to infect.

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    Like fear monger much.

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    Like if that becomes an Olympic event, I want him on my team.

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    He's like the Simone Biles of fear-mongering.

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    And then we put the deceitful, inflated death counts always in your face.

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    And look, it annoys me to no end. It does.

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    But my heart breaks for the innocent people that get caught up in it.

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    Aaron will tell you, he and I have this conversation all the time.

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    Our heart breaks for the people that get caught up in it, because we know people as you do that have been paranoid.

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    You know, we talked to friends of ours on the phone in tears.

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    I'm so afraid, I'm so afraid.

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    Every time I turn on the news and I'm just, I don't know what to do and my heart just breaks.

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    And it is so glorious to think that we will, coming soon, we will never again fear evil.

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    Can you imagine?

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    Can you imagine?

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    Well, imagine is all we can do for now, but it's coming.

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    The day is coming.

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    Fear will no longer be a factor.

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    Awesome.

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    Number five, last and best, in my opinion, and it will soon be yours.

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    Trust me on that.

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    Our doubt, gone forever.

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    Doubt, doubt, doubting what?

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    Doubting what?

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    Doubting Jesus.

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    Through all of our trials and struggles on this earth, we all the times wrestle with the question, does Jesus really love me?

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    Does Jesus really care about me?

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    Does Jesus know?

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    Can Jesus watch what's happening and be so indifferent?

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    Does Jesus really care?

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    We've all thought that, we've all wondered that.

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    Where are you God?

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    We've all been there.

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    And yes, he demonstrated his love for us on the cross, but that's not the end of his demonstration of his love.

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    Again, that's the beginning.

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    And while our struggles for now make us feel at times that He is so distant from us, and we doubt Him, soon that doubt will be gone forever.

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    Listen to me.

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    Jesus loves you.

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    And in His kingdom, you will never question that.

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    Because He's going to be spending a thousand years reigning on this earth to show you how He feels about you.

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    You're like, "Well, what's that?" I want you to look at verse 17, one of the greatest verses in your Bible.

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    And you must underline it because we will have people at the door checking your Bible on your way out today to make sure that you have.

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    Look at this.

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    All week I've been like psyching myself up, like get through this without like getting weepy and stupid.

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    And it says, "The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save." Look at this.

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    He will rejoice over you with gladness.

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    He will quiet you by His love.

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    He will exalt over you with loud singing.

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    Here's the thing that just should stagger you to the very depths of your soul.

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    And it's this thought that we see right here.

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    Salvation brings Jesus joy.

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    You bring Jesus joy.

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    Your redemption, your coming into the family of God, your sharing in His kingdom.

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    We see here in this verse exactly how He feels about that.

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    And don't miss this, because salvation to Jesus is not some emotionless transaction.

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    But that's sometimes how we make it.

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    Like getting our driver's license.

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    That's how some people look at salvation.

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    You show up and Jesus is like, "You would like to come into the kingdom?

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    Okay believe this, sign here, take the picture, see you in heaven." Next!

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    "Oh, you want to go to heaven?

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    Okay believe this, sign here, take the picture." Next, you're holding up the line.

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    Come on, okay you're annoying, go.

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    Your picture's fine, go.

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    Some people look at salvation that way.

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    There's no emotion behind it.

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    But what we see in this verse, and get this, salvation, your salvation is Jesus' passion.

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    In other words, Jesus doesn't save begrudgingly, Jesus saves affectionately.

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    Here's the thing, look at the verse again, it says, "He will quiet you by His love." That word love, you know in the English, we use love for everything and it lessens the impact, right?

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    You know, I love pizza, I love my wife, I love my dog, I love penguins walking.

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    I don't love all those things the same, but in the Greek and here in the Hebrew, there's more specific wording, okay?

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    And typically in your Old Testament, the word love is the Hebrew word hesed, which is translated loving kindness a lot of times, loving kindness.

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    And that's a love of the will.

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    That's the commitment covenant love.

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    But there's a different word for love that's translated here.

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    And it's the word ahaba.

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    And that's a different aspect of love.

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    Ahaba.

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    Ahaba is passion.

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    And I know when I say that, immediately you're thinking, well, the haba haba type love?

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    No, not like that as much as it's like, I've been working on this all week, trying to think how to describe this.

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    So I'm gonna take a run at it here.

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    Ahabba is a passionate love in the sense of, I am all about this.

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    This is my thing right here.

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    This is the thing that fires me up more than anything.

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    And sometimes it's helpful to understand it means when you see how else it is used in the Old Testament, right?

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    So I'm gonna give you a real quick, I know we're going long today and I'm sorry about that, but this is my last sermon for a while, so I'm gonna get it all out.

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    (congregation laughing)

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    But here's how else it is used in the Old Testament.

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    Genesis 29, 20, it says, "Jacob loved Rachel, "so much so that he worked for her for seven years, "and to him it seemed like a few days." He's like, "Oh, for her, for her, for her, yeah, "I'm all about her." And then you go to Genesis 37.3, it says that Jacob loved his son Joseph more than his other sons.

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    He loved all his sons, but Joe, little Joey here, that's my boy, man, I am really proud of him.

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    I am so proud of him, that's my boy.

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    That's my boy.

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    Ahabba.

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    Ahabba's used to describe the love that Jonathan had for David.

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    1 Samuel 18.3 says that David was his BFF and he loved him.

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    It doesn't say BFF, that's a paraphrase.

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    But it does say that he loved David as his own soul.

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    Ahabba, like, "I'm committed to you, David." No, no, no, he's like, "You're my dude, man.

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    "You're my dude." Ahabba is used to describe how a faithful Jew loves the law.

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    Psalm 119, verse 97, "I love your law." It's not just some stale book on a shelf.

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    He is, oh, this is the word of God and it fires me up.

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    I love this book, Ahabba, I love this book.

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    Ahabba is used to describe how Uzziah liked gardening.

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    2 Chronicles 26.10 says, "Uzziah loved the soil." And the Hebrew word is Ahabba.

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    Uzziah loved the soil.

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    He was passionate about gardening.

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    It wasn't a chore to him.

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    It's like, I gotta get this other stuff out of the way so I can enjoy my time in the garden because I love gardening.

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    And I would commend that to you, whether husbands or parents, whenever you're asked, Whenever somebody asks you, "Do you love me?" Your response should be, "Does Uzziah love dirt?" You can use that, and it's biblical, and you'll sound like a Hebrew scholar.

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    But it's ahabba.

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    It's love from the gut.

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    It's love that can't be contained.

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    It's love that can almost be described as joy.

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    It's emotional.

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    It's a delighting love.

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    It's the kind of love that literally makes you want to burst into singing.

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    That's the kind of love a haba is.

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    It's the way my son, Cade, loves the Steelers.

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    It's the way my wife, Erin, loves finding a good deal.

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    It's the way my brother, Darren, loves guitars.

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    Do you get it yet?

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    It's the way the Thompsons love youth ministry.

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    It's the way Rich Sprunk loves gardening, like Uzziah.

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    He loves the dirt.

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    It's the way Mark Horton loves photography.

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    It's the way Steve Zellweiser loves smoking meat.

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    Do you get it yet?

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    It's the way Mike Wolski loves 45.

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    It's the way Jillian Zinko loves volleyball.

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    It's the way Brian Krauss loves shooting.

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    It's the way Martha Cornell loves coffee.

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    Do you need more?

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    I can go around the room, but do you get it?

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    Passion!

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    I love this!

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    "Oh, I love this!" And that's the kind of love that Jesus Christ has for you!

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    It's when you treasure something, "I prefer this, I get my greatest joy from this." And Jesus says, "Yes, that's my people, "the people that I died for, oh, I love them, "and I can't wait a thousand years, "we're gonna be all together, and I'm going to, "oh, I can't wait for that day." And Jesus is like, "I'm gonna be singing over them, and I'm gonna show them how much I love them.

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    What a concept to think that we come here and we sing for joy over Jesus, and on that day coming soon, He is going to sing for joy over you.

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    And when He does, you will never again doubt the love that He has for you.

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    That it's not some detached benevolence.

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    You'll know that you mean the world to Jesus Christ.

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    Zephaniah closes with a recap.

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    He puts a bow on it.

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    Verse 18-20, summing up everything he said, he says, "I will gather those of you who mourned for the festival Israel was scattered and couldn't have their feasts." And they're going to be excited to be doing that again.

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    so that you will no longer suffer reproach.

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    Behold, at that time I will deal with all your oppressors, and I will save the lame and gather the outcasts, and I will change their shame into praise and renown in all the earth.

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    At that time I will bring you in.

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    At the time when I gather you together, I will make you renowned and praised among all the peoples of the earth when I restore your fortunes before your eyes." Says the Lord.

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    I don't know what else to say.

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    Shame, sin, wanting, fear, doubt, gone forever.

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    Taken away as we are in the presence of the Lord.

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    If this is what awaits me in Jesus' kingdom, then it moves me to want to advance that kingdom now.

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    How about you?

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    Because if this is how Jesus Christ is going to show His love for me then, it moves me to show my love for Him now.

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    Are you with me?

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in Heaven, there's a certain inadequacy I always feel.

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    Standing up here trying to echo your word, I don't know if I can communicate this to the degree in which you have the kind of love that you have for your people, God.

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    We don't deserve it, I mean, we know that.

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    Because your great love for us speaks so much more to who you are, than it speaks to who we are.

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    And even if we can right now barely wrap our minds around it, we believe it.

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    And today God as a church, in the name of Jesus Christ, we thank you for it.

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    We thank You that You have so chosen to love us.

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    We thank You, Father, that yes, the day of the Lord is near.

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    And that means forever saying goodbye to the things that hurt and divide us.

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    Praise You, Father.

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    We thank You.

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    And when we read a passage like this today, Father, We say, "Come, Lord Jesus, come." We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Zephaniah 3:9-20

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

  2. Why can’t Jesus make all things new without judgment / punishing sin? Why the need for 7 years of Tribulation (The Day of the Lord)?

  3. In the Millennial Kingdom, do you think we will remember our life on earth from before? If so, how is it we will feel no regret (Zeph 3:11, 15)?

  4. Read Zeph 3:17. Why does the Lord love us in this way? What effect does this have on you today?

Breakout
Pray for one another.

The Day of the Lord is Near - Are You Ready?

Introduction:

1 Peter 4:17 - For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness...

How Do You Respond to Correction? (Zephaniah 2:4-3:8)

  1. I throw a Pity party.
  2. I get Defensive .
  3. I kill the Messenger .
  4. I Flee .
  5. I Examine myself.

How to Receive Correction: 3 Questions of Self-Examination.

  1. Could this be True ?

    Proverbs 15:32 - Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence.

  2. Why is this person telling me this?

    Proverbs 27:6 - Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy.

  3. Am I hurting my Testimony ?

    Proverbs 12:1 - Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid.

Sermon Notes (PDF): BLANK
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Highlight blanks above for answers!

  • 00:49-01:19

    Grab your Bibles, we are going to be continuing our series in the book of Zephaniah in your Old Testaments. And let's be honest, when's the last time you heard a sermon series from Zephaniah? Let's be honest, let's be honest, how many of you didn't know Zephaniah was a book in the Bible before this series started. He's got a lot to say so we're gonna get at it.

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    Zephaniah chapter 2, are you there?

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    So Zephaniah, Zephaniah has one message really. We're spending three weeks talking about one thing and it is the day of the Lord.

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    Seth and I was preaching before Judah was conquered by Babylon.

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    And like a lot of the Old Testament prophets, there's a near fulfillment of his prophecy and there's a far fulfillment of his prophecy.

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    The near fulfillment was Babylon conquering Judah.

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    The far fulfillment is the upcoming day of the Lord.

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    It's going to be global.

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    We're talking the tribulation.

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    talking the events that we went through in the book of Revelation.

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    It's coming soon.

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    Last week we saw Judah wrecked with sin, idolatry, violence, fraud, etc. etc.

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    But the underlying problem we saw from God's people last week, verse 12, was complacency.

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    The Lord will not do good, nor will He do ill.

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    God doesn't care, so why should I?

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    Complacency.

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    Well, this week, chapter 2, we're going to pick up in verse 4, and a judgment is promised to the nations that surround Israel.

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    And you can check your history books.

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    These things have been fulfilled.

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    So we're going to go through this section very quickly and understand in the text, we're going around Israel, and first we start to the west.

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    That's this way, right? To the west.

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    All right?

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    And to the west we have Philistia, Canaan, see some other names for this place.

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    Verse 4.

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    It says, "For Gaza shall be deserted, and Ashkelon shall become a desolation.

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    Ashdod's people shall be driven out at noon, and Ekron will be uprooted.

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    Woe to you, inhabitants of the sea coast!

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    "You nation of the Charithites, the word of the Lord is against you." Boy, you don't want to hear that.

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    "O Canaan, land of the Philistines, and I will destroy you until no inhabitant is left.

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    And you, O seacoast, shall be pastures with meadows for shepherds and folds for flocks.

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    The seacoast shall become the possession of the remnant of the house of Judah, on which they shall graze, "and in the houses of Ashkelon they shall lie down at evening.

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    For the Lord their God will be mindful of them and restore their fortunes." Okay, so here we're just talking about Israel's oldest enemies, and the conflict goes back all the way to the days of Abraham, through the days of Moses, and God says, "We're wrapping this up." Right, so we go from the West, now we go to the East.

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    We're talking about Moab and Ammon.

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    Look at verse 8.

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    He says, "I have heard the taunts of Moab and the revilings of the Ammonites, how they have taunted my people and made boasts against their territory.

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    Therefore, as I live, declares the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, Moab shall become like Sodom and the Ammonites like Gomorrah." You remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah?

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    You remember that story?

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    You remember that?

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    I think a lot of people forgot that.

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    "A land possessed by nettles and salt pits, and a waste forever.

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    The remnant of my people shall plunder them, and the survivors of my nation shall possess them.

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    This shall be their lot in return for their pride, because they taunted and boasted against the people of the Lord of hosts.

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    The Lord will be awesome against them, for he will famish all the gods of the earth, and to him shall bow down each in its place all the lands of the nations." So you see the big taunt, or the big sin rather, of Moab and Ammon is taunting.

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    Taunting God's people.

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    "Hey, God can't save you.

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    Listen, God has abandoned you." And the Lord says, "No, untrue.

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    And I'm about to show you.

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    So now we go south.

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    Verse 12, "You also, O Cushites, shall be slain by my sword." Not much explanation here.

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    Your Bible says the same thing that my Bible says.

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    You're like, "What is the deal with the Cushites?" Well, some scholars think it was due to their alignment with Egypt.

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    Again, I don't really know what your Bible says, what mine says, but I do believe that Israel knew exactly what was going on here.

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    And the Lord certainly knew.

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    He says, "Cushites, I haven't forgotten about you either." And finally we're heading north to Assyria.

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    "And He will stretch out His hand against the north and destroy Assyria.

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    and He will make Nineveh a desolation, a dry waste like the desert.

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    Herds shall lie down in her midst, all kinds of beasts, even the owl and the hedgehog shall lodge in her capitals.

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    A voice shall hoot in the window.

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    Devastation will be on a threshold, for her cedar work will be laid bare.

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    This is the exultant city," that's Nineveh, "that lives securely, that said in her heart, 'I am,' and there is no one else.

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    What a desolation!

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    She has become a lair for wild beasts.

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    Everyone who passes by her hisses and shakes his fist." Now verse 15, part of Assyria and Nineveh's exaltation.

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    See this statement?

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    I am and there is no one else.

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    Does that sound familiar?

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    Can you think of somebody who said similar things to that?

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    I am.

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    There is no one besides me.

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    There is no one like me.

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    Can you think of anybody else that said something like that?

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    God.

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    This is self-exaltation.

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    God says you're going down.

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    Who do you think you are?

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    Now Nineveh was this huge metropolis, bustling city, and God says, "You know what your city's gonna become?

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    It's gonna become a place for wild animals just live in the abandoned buildings.

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    That's how desolate it's gonna become." Judgment.

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    It certainly came for Judah.

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    And we're going to see again here, as we saw last week, Zephaniah's prophesying.

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    Judgment's coming.

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    It's coming on the whole earth.

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    And when we talk about judgment, it's going to result in one of two responses from God's people.

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    I'm sure as we talk about judgment, there are people here that are like, "Get 'em.

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    Get 'em.

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    Get 'em, God." You get all imprecatory.

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    "Get 'em God! Rip their teeth out! Mash them into paste God! Do it God!" There's those people.

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    And then there are people that say, "You know, I get a little queasy when I think about judgment, man.

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    We're talking eternity. It's horrific to think about." You're like, "Well, which is appropriate? I mean, as God's people, Which is the appropriate response?

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    I mean, God's judgment is righteous and justified.

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    But honestly, who can be comfortable thinking about judgment even on your worst enemy?

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    I mean, even looking at people that have caused so much damage, whether it's in the political sphere or the medical sphere or whatever.

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    Can you really be comfortable with the thought of somebody heading to a godless eternity?

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    What's the response of God's people?

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    Quick call back to Revelation.

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    Revelation 10.10, John was told to eat the scroll.

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    And it was to symbolize the reaction of God's people to judgment.

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    John was watching judgment take place that he recorded for us in Revelation.

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    He was watching the day of the Lord and God says, "I want you to eat this scroll." And do you remember the response?

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    John said it was really sweet in his mouth but it was really bitter in his stomach.

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    And I think necessarily that has to be the response of God's people when we talk about judgment.

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    Because there is a sweetness and there's a bitterness at the same time.

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    The sweetness is Jesus promised that he'll make all things new.

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    The day is coming that Jesus Christ is going to eliminate everything that's wrong.

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    You're not going to be able to point to anywhere in infinite time and space on that day and say that's wrong, that's out of place, that's not right.

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    You're not going to be able to do that.

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    It's just going to be perfect.

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    Jesus said, "I'm making all things new." That is awesome.

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    But do you know what that means?

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    At the same time, that means countless people who have rejected God's grace are heading to what the Bible refers to as the lake of fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

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    So do you understand it's sweet and it's bitter at the same time as we talk about judgment?

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    So let's just check ourselves, church, we react to the day of the Lord. That's not discernible.

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    Look at chapter 3, the first eight verses, it circles back to where it began, Jerusalem.

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    And it circles us back to where we ended last week. Why back to Jerusalem? Why did God put judgment on the nations but then go back to talking about Jerusalem? We'll read this in a second, but why did he do this? Again, this is where we ended last week. 1 Peter 4.17 says, "For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God." He says, "And if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?" Listen, church, the world, the world is going to act like the world.

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    You know what's funny about us Christians?

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    You know what's funny about the church?

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    Is we're so shocked by this, aren't we?

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    We're so shocked.

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    Dead people act like what?

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    Dead people, right?

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    And people who don't love God act like...

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    People who don't love God!

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    Can we please stop being surprised by this?

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    Oh my gosh, a guy that has no regard for Jesus Christ just said or did a horrible thing.

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    And you know, church, a mistake that I've made often as a younger Christian and as a a younger pastor, was trying to hold worldly people to biblical standards.

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    And it didn't take me too long before I realized that's impossible.

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    And you see, I bring up this 1 Peter 4 verse again, because in this context, Zephaniah reminds us, God's going to take care of them.

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    He'll take care of them.

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    Like, what's gonna happen to them?

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    God's gonna take care of them.

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    But our job is to exhort God's people to act like people who know God.

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    Right?

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    And here's the message for God's people.

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    Chapter 3.

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    He says, "Woe to her who is rebellious and defiled, the oppressing city." That's Jerusalem.

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    You're going to see that clearly in a second.

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    She listens to no voice.

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    She accepts no correction.

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    She does not trust in the Lord.

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    She does not draw near to her God.

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    Her officials within her are roaring lions.

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    Her judges are evening wolves that leave nothing till the morning.

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    See that?

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    The political leaders, the people that are supposed to be making decisions to care for the nation.

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    He says they're a pack of wild animals.

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    Can you imagine?

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    He says in verse 4, "Her prophets are fickle, treacherous men.

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    Her priests profane what is holy.

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    They do violence to the law." Even the people that are supposed to be feeding and shepherding God's people.

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    He says they're far from God themselves.

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    You see, he says her prophets are fickle.

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    You know how that happens?

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    It happens when you get away from preaching the Word of God and you start preaching your opinion because when you preach your opinion or preach what you think the culture wants to hear, you're going to be fickle.

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    "What do I think they want to hear this week?

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    What was different than what you said six months ago?" That's okay.

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    We just want to give people what they want to hear.

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    You're fickle and you're not helping anyone and you're certainly not honoring the Lord when you do that.

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    Speaking of the Lord, on the other hand, verse 5, "The Lord within her is righteous." He does no injustice.

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    Every morning He shows forth His justice.

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    Each dawn He does not fail.

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    But the unjust knows no shame.

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    See the contrast between who God is and what His people have become?

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    Resonate yet with anyone?" Now the Lord speaks up.

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    He says, "I have cut off nations.

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    Their battlements are in ruins.

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    I have laid waste to their streets so that no one walks in them.

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    Their cities have been made desolate, without a man, without an inhabitant." I said, "Surely you will fear me.

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    You will accept correction.

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    Then your dwelling would not be cut off according to all that I have appointed against you." But all the more they were eager to make all their deeds corrupt.

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    Wow.

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    Wow.

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    God says, "I thought you would see what I do to these other nations, and it would get your attention, that I'm serious." He goes, "But instead, you just got hungrier for sin." God speaks to the remnant again, verse 8.

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    He says, "Therefore, wait for Me." "I declare to the Lord for the day when I rise up to seize the prey, for My decision is to gather nations, to assemble kingdoms, to pour out upon them My indignation, all my burning anger, for in the fire of my jealousy, all the earth shall be consumed." That's Revelation 19, that's Armageddon.

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    Bible says God's going to assemble the nations together for one last showdown with Jesus Christ.

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    We know how that turns out.

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    Well, in verse two, we see a huge problem in Zephaniah's day and in our day.

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    Look at verse two again.

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    Why is God so fired up against his people?

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    Look at verse two.

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    She listens to no voice.

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    She accepts no correction.

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    She does not trust in the Lord.

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    She does not draw near to her God.

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    Do you see that?

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    He says, "Israel, your problem?

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    You're unwilling to receive correction." And I have to ask you, if you were here last week or you listened to last week's message, do you think there's a possibility, maybe, that the inability to receive correction is somehow tied into this attitude of complacency?

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    Do you think?

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    Do you think there's a connection there?

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    I think so.

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    And again, in verse seven, God says, "Look, you've watched other people "face the consequences of sin, "but it just doesn't deter you.

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    "You don't receive correction." And you're like, "Yeah, Pastor Jeff, I understand.

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    "That looks like a serious problem for ancient Israel." That is a serious problem in the church today.

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    Huge.

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    Huge problem in the church today.

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    I know best.

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    No one tells me what to do.

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    Nobody tells me I did anything wrong.

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    Nobody corrects me.

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    Nobody tells me that I need to change.

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    And that's the ultimate problem of the human heart.

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    You're just not willing to receive correction.

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    And when somebody brings a word of correction to you, you're offended.

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    Like what's the big deal?

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    Well, look at verse 2 again.

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    Do you see what the big deal is?

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    It says, "She listens to no voice.

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    She accepts no correction." Now what does that result in?

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    You tell me.

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    Look at the next two phrases.

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    When you don't accept correction, it says, "She does not trust in the Lord." There's a connection.

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    She does not draw near to her God.

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    There's a connection.

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    Like, "Man, I'm just not feeling it in my spiritual walk lately.

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    Why don't I feel like I'm drawing near to God?

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    Why don't I feel like I really trust the Lord like I should?" Because you're unwilling to receive correction.

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    That's why.

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    Like, "Okay, I'm listening.

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    How do I receive correction?" Well, just very simply, obviously in the context, it's when God speaks to you through His Word.

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    Or He speaks to you through His people sharing His Word.

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    the correction is always going to come from the Word of God.

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    Because you see 2 Timothy 3.16 says this, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." You see those middle two words, reproof and correction.

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    In other words, reproof, that's this is wrong, correction, Do this instead.

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    God says, "Israel, you're not willing to receive that." Like, well, how does that happen today?

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    Well, you see, it comes through the Word of God, right?

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    You're like, "Okay, well, how do I get exposed to the Word of God?" Well, obviously, one way is reading the Word.

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    Right? You're just home, you're in your office, you're reading God's Word.

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    But there's a problem with that.

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    Not with reading God's Word.

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    The problem is, too often for us, we are not reading the Word of God with a mind of, "What am I supposed to correct?" "What am I supposed to change?" We're not reading with that mindset.

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    That's a problem.

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    Another way that we receive the Word of God is hearing the Word preached.

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    Whether it's by me or one of our guest preachers or whoever gets up here and says, "This is what God says," but there's a problem with that.

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    The problem with that is too often when we hear the Word preached and something is pretty direct, we think that's for somebody else, right?

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    That's for somebody else.

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    That's not for me.

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    But you know there's another way we receive the Word of God.

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    And that's receiving the Word from a brother or sister in Christ directly.

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    I want to talk about that for a few minutes, church, because this is where it really hits home.

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    Have you ever been there?

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    Confronted on something from someone in the church?

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    Have you ever been there?

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    Brother or sister in the Lord, somebody in the church, somebody in your small group, somebody you do ministry with here on the security team and harvest kids, whatever.

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    Just kind of pulls you aside and says, "Hey, can I talk to you about something?

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    I just noticed, there's just some things I see that I'm just a little concerned about." And I want to ask you church, in those moments, how do you respond to that?

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    Because that's a big deal.

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    I'm going to give you five ways, jot these down, these are on your outline.

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    Here's five ways that people respond to correction.

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    I'm going to give you a hint ahead of time, four of them ain't great, alright?

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    How do we respond to correction?

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    It's a big deal.

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    Letter A, I throw a pity party.

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    Somebody pulls you aside, they're like, "Man, I just, I see some issues here that I just don't think you're honoring the Lord with this." And you walk away going, "I'm terrible.

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    Everybody thinks I stink.

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    I'm worthless." That's not going to get you anywhere.

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    Letter B, I get defensive. I get defensive. "You don't know me! You don't know my situation!

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    Look, I'm justified, man! You have no idea what you're talking about!" You get defensive.

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    Letter C, I kill the messenger. Not literally, right? Metaphorically. I kill the messenger.

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    that pulls you aside and says, "Hey, I just see some things I'm kind of concerned about." Oh, oh, oh, you think you're perfect.

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    Oh, okay, I'm sorry.

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    I didn't realize we had a perfect person here that was keeping the rest of us in line.

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    Or we say the thing that just absolutely drives me insane.

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    You know what we say?

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    You're judging me.

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    You're judging me.

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    I'm judging your ability to not understand the Bible, your inability to understand the Bible.

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    That's what I'm judging now.

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    because you have no idea what it means to judge.

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    But people use that because that's like the ultimate catch-all, right?

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    You're judging me.

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    Oh, I don't wanna do that, so I'm just gonna back off.

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    Sorry to bother you, have a nice day.

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    No, learn what that means.

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    So if you don't kill the messenger directly, maybe you kill the messenger with gossip.

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    Maybe you kill the messenger with gossip.

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    Okay, maybe you don't say anything to the person that's speaking to you, but maybe you go to other people in the church or other friends or whatever, other people in your small group.

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    Can you believe what he said to me?

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    Can you believe him, of all people, said that to me?

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    I mean, you see the problems he has in his life, and he said that to me?

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    Ha!

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    Like, yeah, crazy, right?

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    You kill the messenger.

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    You're so focused on the person, you're not hearing what they're saying.

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    The letter D, another very popular one in our culture, is I flee.

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    Somebody says, "Hey, I got some concerns, just some things I see in your life.

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    I wanna talk to you about it." And you're like, "You know what?

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    I don't gotta take this.

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    There are lots of great churches in the North Hills of Pittsburgh.

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    I'll go to one of those.

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    I'll flee." The letter E, I examine myself.

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    I examine myself.

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    We're going to circle back to this in a second, but it's just this recognition that I have some blind spots in my life and I am not perfect and I'm a work in progress like you.

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    So is it possible, is it in the realm of possibility that something in my life, my attitudes, my my actions, my words, is dishonoring to our Lord.

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    Is that possible?

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    And certainly it is.

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    So how do you respond?

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    How do you respond to correction?

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    Give you a little test.

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    Don't shout out answers.

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    I just want you to sort of put yourself in these little scenarios, but I just want you to think how you would respond if you were in these situations, all right?

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    And don't shout it out, you're not gonna write it down, just, I just want you to think, what would I say or do in this situation?

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    Because right now we've been kind of generic.

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    And we realize not everybody's been offended yet.

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    So we're gonna get real specific to make sure we catch everyone.

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    Men, your wife says to you, hey, you've been neglecting things at home, and you've done nothing lately to show that we are a priority to you.

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    How do you respond to that, husbands?

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    Someone in your small group says to you, hey, can I talk to you about something?

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    Look, you are constantly belittling people in this group.

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    Even when we're trying to get serious and dig in, you're just so condescending in the way that you talk to people here.

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    And I've got to tell you, it's really bothering people.

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    How would you respond to that?

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    Or maybe somebody in this room notices that you haven't been here for a few weeks and they give you a call.

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    And they say, "You know, you're gone a lot.

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    You don't really seem to make worship a priority.

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    I'm kind of concerned about that.

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    We talk about that.

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    How would you respond to that?" Parents, what if someone in your small group pulls you aside?

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    Says, "Hey, I've got to talk to you.

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    You speak very harshly towards your children, like really harshly.

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    What's your response to that?

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    Someone in your small group gives you a call and wants to get together with you for lunch, and you go to lunch, and you sit down and exchange your small talk.

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    and you say, "Hey, I need to talk to you about something.

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    Your drinking really seems to be getting out of control right now.

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    It really seems excessive.

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    Can we talk about that?" How do you respond?

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    How do you respond to that?

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    Do you throw the pity party?

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    Do you get defensive?

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    Do you kill the messenger?

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    Do you just, "I'm going the north way, man.

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    I don't gotta take this." Or do you stop and say, "Hey, hey, you know..." The Bible says we need to examine ourselves, right?

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    And as Christians, we are fantastic at examining other people.

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    But when it comes to examining ourselves, we stink.

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    We need to examine ourselves.

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    So, the Lord here in Zephaniah just lays out the rebuke.

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    He's like, "You're not accepting correction.

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    And I don't just want to leave you hanging." So, to close, we're going to take a really quick spin, pick up some Proverbs here.

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    How to receive correction.

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    Three questions of self-examination.

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    Listen, giving correction must be done prayerfully, and it must be done in humility, and that is a whole other sermon for another day.

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    Today I just want to talk about receiving correction, accepting correction.

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    I want to give you three questions of self-examination to ask yourself, when confronted with the Word of God.

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    Like I said, through reading, through a sermon, more than likely through a trusted brother in the Lord pulling you aside, sister in the Lord calling you up, whatever, how to receive correction.

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    Three questions of self-examination.

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    Are you ready?

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    Number one, you have to ask yourself, could this be true?

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    Could this be true?

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    Is this a blind spot?

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    I mean, we all have room to grow, But church, this is absolutely the first question that we have to ask ourselves.

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    And I know my natural tendency, my natural tendency is to get defensive.

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    That can't be true.

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    What's your problem?

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    Why would you say that?

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    And I'm not saying that I've arrived and I'm saying the Lord has really grown me in this area.

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    I'm getting better at it.

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    I'm still a work in progress.

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    But I've learned through the years when somebody sends the correction, the criticism, whatever, the first thing I need to do is stop and say, "Okay, is there an element of truth in this?" Don't make it personal with the person who spoke to you.

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    Just get objective.

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    Because here's the glorious thing.

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    God may be using this person to speak truth into your life to help you grow.

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    Right?

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    Proverbs 15.32 says this, "Whoever ignores instruction despises himself.

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    But he who listens to reproof..." Again, that's pointing out what needs corrected.

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    "He who listens to reproof gains intelligence." You see, I have to ask myself, "Could this be true?" And there's a selfish benefit there, because I could get something out of it.

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    I can grow. I can become more like Jesus Christ, if I'm willing to receive reproof.

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    So first thing you have to ask yourself, "Could this be true?" Secondly, "Why is this person telling me this?" "Why is this person telling me this?" In other words, "Is this motivated out of love and concern for my walk with Christ?" Look, I understand every word of correction, reproof, rebuke, whatever that's going to be thrown your way, Some of it is going to be done by mean-spirited people.

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    And I don't like that.

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    This is the world we live in.

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    It happens in the church.

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    Some people are going to say things just to upset you and be mean.

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    And we'll deal with that.

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    But you have to ask yourself, "This person is bringing this to me.

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    Are they motivated because they care about me You know, Proverbs 27.6 says, "Faithful are the wounds of a friend, profuse are the kisses of an enemy." The first part, you know, the people that love you will wound you when you need it.

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    And I have to tell you, the people that bring the correction, that want to see you get to the better place for them. Giving corrections is not easy either. It's not. And if you've ever been in this situation, you understand that. In fact, I suggest to you it could be harder to correct someone than to receive correction. Because often the person that's offering the correction, the constructive criticism, they have probably been agonizing over that for days. How should I say this? When should I say this? What's the best way?

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    All right? So listen, even if it hurts to hear, we are called as the body of Christ to watch each other's backs. So ask yourself, "Why is this person telling me this?" And and finally ask yourself, "Am I hurting my testimony?" Okay, so the person brings something to you, some word of correction, whatever, and they bring it to you, and you're like, "Could this be true?

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    "And I know this person cares about me, "but what if the thing that they're correcting "isn't entirely accurate, right?

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    "Maybe they don't have all the facts, "or part of the story's a little mixed up, Or they're just like a hair out of line with what they're saying.

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    Here's the thing.

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    Even if what they're correcting is inaccurate, you are giving them reason to perceive that it is.

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    And living above reproach means that my testimony matters.

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    And I hear this too often even in the church.

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    I don't care what people think about me.

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    I don't care what people think about you.

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    You should care what people think about you.

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    You should have a testimony that's above reproach.

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    People shouldn't have anything bad to say about you.

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    That's what the Bible says.

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    So if there's any word of correction that comes your way, and comes my way, we need to take a really hard look at it.

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    And say, "Am I damaging my testimony in some way?" Am I hurting my testament?

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    I mentioned before that we do this preaching class, right?

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    And we usually start January, February, and all year.

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    We work with guys from the church and they put this sermon together, and then they rehearse and get feedback and rehearse again so that when they get up here in July, they are like, ready to go.

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    A couple years back, Ryan Stroop, you know, bless his heart, I consider Ryan a friend.

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    He's a bum.

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    But I mean that like in a good Christian love kind of way.

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    And you know what?

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    He pulled a horrible prank on me.

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    I shared this before, I'm not gonna rehash it, but he had me convinced that I got some guy fired from his job and now the guy's kids are starving and they're living in a cardboard box behind Giant Eagle.

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    And horrible prank.

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    And when I found out he punked me, I promised in my heart that day I would get him back.

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    Because you see, I'm patient.

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    And I'm not just gonna jump at the little low-hanging fruits.

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    Like I'm going to cook something that's going to destroy him.

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    So preaching class, Ryan was set to rehearse and I messaged all the other guys in the preaching class.

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    And I said, "Here's the plan, boys." I said, "Ryan's preaching "And no matter how good his sermon is, "it was the worst sermon you've ever heard.

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    "Who's in?" And they were all like, "In!"

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    (congregation laughing)

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    Well, Rich isn't here, is he?

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    Rich Brunk, one of our elders, he was in the class.

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    Oh, is he teaching?

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    Okay, somebody fill him in.

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    Anyways, well, I told the guys, you remember, Justin, I told the guys, "Look, just don't come in too hot, or he's gonna know it's a prank.

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    I'm like, on ramp, right, Justin?

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    On ramp, we're gonna ease into it, right?

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    Ease into it.

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    I was like, don't come out of the gate too hot, or he's gonna think something's up.

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    Ease into it.

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    So Ryan rehearses the message, which was actually pretty good.

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    All right, let's get some feedback.

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    And Rich was sitting there.

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    Rich goes, "You know, Ryan, I rehearsed my sermon "last month and my sermon was an abomination.

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    "Yours was worse."

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    (audience laughing)

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    And we're all looking at each other like, right, Justin?

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    We're like, "Where do we go from here?"

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    (audience laughing)

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    Rich played the abomination card right out of the gate.

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    But that didn't stop us from trying, right?

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    And I'm just like, yeah, Ryan, you know, as you're giving your message, I just don't see at all how it connected to the text at all.

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    I mean, I'm hearing your words and I'm looking at the text and I just don't see any kind of connection.

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    And we just went around, Justin gave some helpful feedback and Mr. Wolski gave some helpful feedback.

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    We just went around and gave him all kinds of delicious feedback.

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    And you know, Ryan stood right here and he took every word, writing notes down.

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    And yeah, eventually we told him it was a prag.

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    And we gave him some real feedback.

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    But you know, I learned a lot about Ryan Stroop that day.

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    Because even though it was complete fabrication, he stood here and received very hard correction like a man.

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    He didn't get defensive, though he could have.

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    He didn't lash out at other people's messages, though he could have.

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    He stood here and said, "You know, I guess I got some things to learn, so teach me." I learned a lot about Ryan Stroop that day, and I just need to ask you, church, how do you receive correction?

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    What would I learn about you?

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    When somebody...

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    Not under those bogus pretenses for him, but what about when somebody brings real correction to you?

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    What do you do when it's real?

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    Proverbs 12.1 says, "Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge.

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    But he who hates reproof is stupid." Now look, I am much too shy and timid to call anyone stupid.

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    This is from the mouth of God.

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    He says if you're a person that hates being corrected, God says you're stupid.

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    Because y'all need it.

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    Are you willing to allow God to speak through His Word and through others to change your And of course, are you willing to draw near to God through accepting correction?

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, none of us like this, God.

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    We just don't.

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    We hate somebody telling us that we're wrong.

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    God, we don't like you telling us that we're wrong.

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    And you're perfect.

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    And your word is eternal.

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    There's just something in us, God, that we hate correction.

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    But God, you have called your people to a different standard, so I'm praying, Father, for this church, I'm praying for this church, God, that we would be people who are unafraid to speak into each other's lives, in love and in humility and out of care, but that we would be people who are willing to receive correction. We see very clearly the path that it took Israel here in Zephaniah.

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    Father, you've called us to something different. Let us be people, Father, who examine ourselves, who test ourselves to see if we're in the faith, who take words of correction from you through the book, through people, speaking Your Word.

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    Father, let us take it to heart, so that You may continue to conform us into the image of Your Son, which is Your goal and should be ours.

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    We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Zephaniah 2:4-3:8

  1. What was your big “take-away” from this passage / message?

  2. What kind of thoughts / emotions do you experience when you consider God's coming judgment (the Day of the Lord)?

  3. “We can't hold worldly people to Biblical standards.” Why is this impossible?

  4. Be honest, how do you typically respond to correction? Why?

  5. Explain how “accepting correction” is connected to “trusting God” and “drawing near to God” (Zeph 3:2).

Breakout
Pray for one another. Correct one another and see if the sermon landed.