Judgment, Phase 1: The Seals.

Intro / Review:

  1. The first seal: PEACE (Rev 6:1-2)
  2. The second seal: WAR. (Rev 6:3-4)
  3. The third seal: FAMINE (Rev 6:5-6)
  4. The fourth seal: DEATH. (Rev 6:7-8)
  5. The fifth seal: PRAYERS (Rev 6:9-11)
  6. The sixth seal: FEAR. (Rev 6:12-17)

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    Open up your Bibles to Revelation 6.

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    We are back in our series called "Coming Soon." We're going verse by verse through the book of Revelation.

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    To get us all caught up from where we left off back in December, in Revelation 1, we see that John was exiled on the island of Patmos, sort of like prison, because of preaching the gospel.

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    And while he was there, Jesus Christ showed up in all His majestic glory and said, "John, I want you to write some things down." That's chapter 1.

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    Chapters 2 and 3, 7 letters to 7 churches.

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    And really, 7 letters to all churches for all time.

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    But 7 letters to 7 specific churches in Asia Minor.

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    Jesus was addressing some issues that were going on in the churches.

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    Then we get to Revelation chapter 4, and the Apostle John is taken forward in time and up to heaven to see what's coming next.

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    And in chapter 4, in heaven, John saw the throne.

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    What's going on on the throne and around the throne and towards the throne.

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    And everything in chapter 4 is about God on the throne, the worship of the one on the throne.

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    Then our last message in Revelation was chapter 5.

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    On the throne, God had the title deed to the earth.

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    And the question was posed, who is worthy to open that scroll and to break its seals?

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    In other words, who is able to reclaim the earth back from Satan, back from sin, back from evil?

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    Who is able to reclaim the earth?

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    Well, the Lamb, Jesus Christ, steps forward, and He takes the scroll, and thunderous worship results.

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    Recall when He breaks the seals, every time a seal is broken on this scroll, it manifests an act of judgment from the Lamb.

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    Now, when he's opening the scroll, it's not like these seals breaking are seconds apart or minutes apart.

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    We're going to see that these judgments that are manifested every time a seal is broken, these judgments encompass the entire seven-year period of the tribulation leading up to his return.

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    We'll get to in chapter 19, spoiler alert.

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    But there are seven seals.

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    This is important to get down because you're going to see this throughout Revelation.

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    There are seven seals, but the seventh seal contains seven more judgments.

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    Those are the trumpet judgments.

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    And then the seventh trumpet judgment contains seven bowl judgments.

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    We're going to see that as we go through Revelation.

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    The first four seals take place during the first half of the Tribulation.

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    It's seven years, so half of that is.

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    Three and a half years, thank you, seeing who's listening.

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    The fifth seal broken stretches from the first half of the Tribulation to the second, and the sixth and seventh seal, including the trumpets and the bowls, take place during the Great Tribulation, which is the second half of the seven-year period, which is another... how long? Three and a half years.

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    All right, mathematicians!

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    So the Lamb takes the scroll, He breaks the seals, and He ushers in the end.

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    Now, our last couple of messages in Revelation, we've been in heaven, and the scene is going to shift back to the earth.

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    And as we're looking through this, I'm going to go through this quickly.

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    We're going to be doing all of chapter six today.

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    And I want to remind you that the message is available online if you'd like to give it another listen, because I'm going to be giving some Old Testament verses to help us understand what's going on here.

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    But we're going to be going through it quickly.

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    But as we go through this, I also want to remind you that in Revelation, John doesn't explain what's happening as much as he is describing what's happening.

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    Does that make sense?

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    John's not sitting there writing it down saying, this is a complete exhaustive explanation of what I see.

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    He's communicating what he sees.

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    And you're going to see that throughout.

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    We've already seen it.

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    It's like this, and it looked like this, and had the appearance of that.

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    John's just taking it in, and he's describing what's happening.

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    And our understanding of what's happening comes from many Old Testament passages describing these very events.

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    You see, you go through the Old Testament prophets, this stuff in Revelation is not new.

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    These things were prophesied long before and now it's just all coming together and being played out. Does that make sense?

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    They're coming soon. Judgment, phase one, the seals. Let's look at the seals.

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    The first seal, number one, the first seal was peace.

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    And I would say, parenthetically, false peace.

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    Again, when the Lamb opens the scroll and breaks the seals, Every time a seal is broken, it manifests judgment or some sort of a force on the earth.

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    And the first force that's associated with the seal is peace.

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    Look at Revelation 6, verses 1 through 2.

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    Now John says, "Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder, 'Come!' And I looked, and behold, a white horse and its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering and to conquer." The question is, "Okay, who's on the horse?" Well, some commentators, theologians, scholars, some say, "Well, that's the Antichrist." Because the Antichrist is this world leader who is yet coming.

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    He might be on the earth now, for all we know.

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    but he's going to be a major player in these events in Revelation.

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    He's sort of Satan's answer to Jesus Christ.

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    Well, some say, "Well, he is... this rider on the horse is the Antichrist." And some others would say, "Well, no, no, no. The rider on the horse is obviously Jesus Christ because he's on a white horse and has a crown and conquering." So who's on the horse here? The answer is it's neither of those.

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    It's not the Antichrist and it's not Jesus Christ.

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    And there's two reasons that I don't believe it's either one of them.

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    and number one, both the Antichrist and Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Lamb, both of them are explicitly identified when they're mentioned in Revelation.

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    When they come up in the text, John very clearly identifies them, which this character here is not so explicitly identified. But the second reason that I don't believe it's either Jesus Christ or the Antichrist is because you're going to see here in a second when we get to seal number two, seal number three, See seal number four.

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    There are other horsemen, there are other horses, other riders, and those other ones are not connected to representing another player in Revelation.

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    It's like this horseman is Jesus, and this horseman is the Antichrist, and this horseman is the false prophet, and this horseman is...

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    You don't see that at all.

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    All four of these horsemen represent an aspect of judgment.

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    As far as I can see from the text, John saw the horsemen, but there's no evidence that the people earth who were experiencing the judgment and the wrath that they were bringing.

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    There's no evidence that they actually saw the horsemen, only the judgment that they brought.

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    So this rider, the text says he had a bow, but he didn't have any arrows.

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    He had an instrument of war, but there was no fighting.

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    And it says that the crown, which in the Greek is the victor's crown, it was just given to him.

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    Again, here's a guy that conquered, but there was no bloodshed.

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    And what this is talking about here, we'll see clearly in a second, this is peace on earth.

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    You're like, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on, hang on.

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    I thought Revelation was about, like, dark, scary judgment from God." And you're like, "This is what He's leading with?

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    This is what God's leading with? Peace on earth?

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    This is temporary, and it's false." But you see, the world desperately desires peace.

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    And the Antichrist is going to use that desire, And the Antichrist is going to convince the world, "I can give you peace. I can bring it.

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    You want peace on earth? You want peace in the Middle East?

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    You want the end of fighting? I can deliver that." The Antichrist is going to deceive Israel.

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    Daniel 9.27, jot that down.

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    And eventually betray Israel.

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    Jesus talked about that in Matthew 24, I believe.

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    This is a false peace.

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    And all throughout the Old Testament, the Bible gives warnings for people that are declaring and proclaiming peace when there's no peace. New Testament as well, 1 Thessalonians 5.3.

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    So this wicked world leader is going to come on the scene and he's going to promise peace.

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    And for a time it almost seems like he's delivering what he promised.

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    You're like, "Wait a second, this seems a little far-fetched, Pastor Jeff. Can that really happen?" Can that really happen? I would say, "Read your history books." Remember Hitler? Hitler didn't show up and say, "Hey everybody, I'm going to try to exterminate an entire race of people." He didn't do that.

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    He showed up promising what? Peace!

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    And that's sort of a prelude to the Antichrist.

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    He's going to show up promising peace.

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    And that's going to set the stage for the devastation that comes, because look at the second one.

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    The second seal is war, verses 3 and 4.

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    "And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature..." These living creatures, remember, these are the angels that John sort of reintroduced us to back in chapter 4.

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    "When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" And out came another horse, bright red.

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    Its rider was permitted to, see this, "Take peace from the earth, so the people should slay one another." And he was given a great sword.

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    So this rider had a sword, and he took away the false peace that had come on the earth.

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    War and violence are going to break out in a way that we are only scratching the surface of in our day.

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    Now, war, I believe this is so much more than just international war.

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    This is more than just Russia's fighting with whoever, like nation versus...

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    I believe it's more than that. I believe it's that, but I believe it's more than that.

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    I believe this is also racial strife.

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    Seen a lot of that in our day, haven't we? It's going to get worse.

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    This is more than just war. It's racial strife, it's organized crime, it's murdering police, and it's murdering police, it's civil war.

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    all of these things are going to get exponentially worse, and in the last days, that's going to be the norm.

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    Right now, we hear about it on the news, and get snippets of it happening here, happening there.

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    And these days, it's going to constantly, 24/7.

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    There's fighting and war and bloodshed.

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    That's the second seal.

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    Third seal is famine.

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    Look at verse 5.

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    "When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" And I looked and behold, a black horse, and its rider had a pair of scales in his hand.

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    This rider had a pair of scales.

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    He had power over trade and commerce.

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    That's what that is identifying.

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    With all of this war and fighting and bloodshed that is happening, one of the natural results of war is famine.

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    And this ultimate war is going to result and the ultimate famine, and the scales represent the rationing and the inflation that is going to take place during these days.

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    That's made so clear. Look at verse 6.

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    "And I heard what seemed to be a voice in the midst of the four living creatures..." Whose voice do you think that is? That's God's voice, right?

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    "...in the midst of the four living creatures, saying, 'A quart of wheat for Daenerys, and three quarts of barley for Daenerys, and do not harm the oil and wine." Like, what's that quote all about?

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    To just sum it up, these are famine conditions.

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    A denarius was about a day's wage.

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    And the point here is, without doing all the math and explaining all the measurements and all this stuff, you can look all this up, but the point of this is this.

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    Resources are going to be so scarce that it's an entire day's wage just to feed one person, which is rough if you're just one person, right?

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    'Cause you got other bills, you got other things, but what if you have a spouse?

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    What if you are caring for another family member in your home?

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    What if you have children?

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    These are famine conditions.

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    A day's wage for one person's food, it's getting worse.

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    Look at the fourth seal, death, verses 7 and 8.

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    "When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, 'Come!' And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider's name was Death.

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    and Hades followed him, and they were given authority over a fourth of the earth to kill with sword, and with famine, and with pestilence, and by wild beasts of the earth." First of all, it says this is a pale horse.

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    That word for "pale" in the Greek is where we get the word "chlorophyll." It's green, a sickly green, like zombie flesh green.

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    It's the color of a decomposing corpse.

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    Death is brought about by four weapons, wielded by death and Hades following.

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    Four weapons, you see it, first of all, sword, secondly, famine, third it says pestilence.

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    Interestingly, in the Greek, the word pestilence is literally just translated death.

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    And I believe that these three things, the sword, the famine, the pestilence, the death, they're encompassing the result of the first three taking their full effect on the earth.

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    But this is interesting.

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    It says, "And by wild beasts of the earth," What are the wild beasts?

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    What are the wild beasts?

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    Could it be rats?

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    Rats are known carriers of disease.

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    Think of the 14th century black death.

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    This was interesting.

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    You know, the word for a wild beast in the Greek translates to the exact same word used in Acts 28.

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    When, remember when Paul was bitten by the snake, the venomous snake, it's the same word.

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    And some would say, maybe there's a plague of venomous snakes that are part of this.

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    I don't know, but I do know wild beasts, along with these other weapons are going to kill 25% of the Earth's population.

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    Wrap your brains around that for a second, if you can.

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    25% of the Earth's population is going to be killed at this point.

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    Do you know how many people there are on the Earth today?

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    7.7 billion on the Earth today.

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    So 25% of that is 1.925 billion.

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    Almost 2 billion people are going to be killed at this point.

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    Can you wrap your brains around that?

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    Let's put it into perspective.

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    Let's put it into perspective.

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    Let's say if you said each name of the person that was killed.

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    You have a list of everybody that's killed, OK?

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    You have this list, everybody's name, and you're just going to say their names out loud.

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    And we're going to be very generous and say it takes you one second for each name because you're a fast talker.

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    And you're just going to say the names out loud, OK?

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    You with me?

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    But you never stop.

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    You do it morning, noon, and night on repeat.

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    You don't sleep, you don't eat, you don't do anything.

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    Let's say that's all you do is you stand and read the names on the list day and night, day and night.

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    Do you know how long it would take you to read this many names?

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    62 years, nonstop.

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    That should give us some perspective of the devastation that's happening here.

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    The fifth seal is prayers.

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    Look at verses nine through 11.

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    When he opened the fifth seal, "I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the Word of God and for the witness they had borne.

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    They cried out with a loud voice, "Oh, sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" And they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

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    The force at play here, interestingly, big shift here between the fourth and the fifth seal, the force at play here, the prayers of God's people.

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    Specifically, your Bible says the prayers of God's people who were killed, who were murdered during the tribulation.

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    These are people who come to Christ during the tribulation and are killed for it during the first half of the tribulation.

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    And this answers one of the most common questions that I get about Revelation.

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    People ask me all the time, "Will people get saved during the tribulation?" And the answer is absolutely yes.

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    And here's proof right here.

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    The question usually comes from someone thinking, "You know, I have unsaved family and friends that I've been witnessing to, and I want them to come to know Christ, and I've invited them to church, and they just don't seem interested.

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    And is it going to be too late if we're gone and they live through the tribulation?" People will get saved during the tribulation.

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    But looking at this seal again, John says, "He saw under the altar." What altar? Well, he doesn't specify.

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    Some say, "Well, due to the bloodshed of the saints, this is probably the heavenly version of the altar of burnt offering from the Old Testament." That's Leviticus 4, 17 and 18.

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    And some say, "No, no, no. Due to the connection to prayer, it's the altar of burnt offering.

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    I'm sorry, the altar of incense, the altar of incense from Exodus 40 and verse 5." I don't know. John just says, "I saw an altar." I don't know what the altar is, but I do know one thing absolutely crystal clear from this passage.

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    is that God moves in response to their prayers.

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    The Bible says He gave them white robes of righteousness and then invites them to rest for a while.

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    God says it's not yet time because more people need to die.

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    Like, what? What? Did you see that?

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    Verse 11, that God told them to rest a little longer until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who are to be killed as they themselves had been.

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    Doesn't that bother you a little bit?

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    Sometimes we see great evil and wickedness and heartache and disaster and tragedy, and we think, "God, why don't you do something about this?" "God, you can. I know you can." But my question is, "Why won't you?" "Why don't you... You obviously see what's going on and you can do something about it, so tell me why you're not doing something about it right now." But do you understand?

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    That was the exact question that they were asking him under the altar.

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    These people that have been killed, did you see that?

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    They're not being irreverent.

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    They're saying, "God, how long are you going to let this continue?

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    You're a God of holiness and righteousness, and your earth is being run by nasty, wicked, sinful people. How much longer are you going to allow this to happen? God, you're holy and you're righteous. How long are you going to let this happen?" See, God knows the number of those who will be killed. And on one hand, yeah, it does seem kind of chilling. But on the other hand, there's a sense of comfort at the level of control in which the Lord operates.

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    Every detail in the universe is under His absolute complete control.

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    You realize that?

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    Every molecule in the universe under His complete control.

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    Every nanosecond that passes, passes under His sovereign control.

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    that has ever happened, everything that's happening right now, and everything that is going to happen, all of it happens for one reason.

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    It's because He allows it.

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    And I want to add, even in your life today, just honestly, there's sometimes I feel, I feel that things are happening in my life.

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    Like, "God, why aren't you doing something about this? Do you know? Do you see?" I mean, "Why haven't you shown up? Why aren't you doing something?" And sometimes we start to wonder, right?

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    This is a great comfort to know, look, yeah, God knows.

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    And he says, "It's part of the plan." And it might not make sense now, but it will someday.

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    God lovingly replies to these people.

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    He says, "You were killed because of your faith." I know.

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    And I knew, he says, "Others are going to be too.

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    Rest, because at the perfect time, I'm going to finish this." Not a second before, and not a second late.

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    And then finally, let's talk about the sixth seal.

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    We're just going to call this one fear.

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    You're going to see it very clearly in the text.

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    This one also is a little different, because in the first five seals, there were other characters involved.

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    Like we saw angels, we saw horsemen, we saw death and Hades, we saw praying saints, we saw other characters involved.

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    But when you get to the sixth seal, It is God Himself.

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    No other person involved, used in any way, it's God Himself.

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    The first five seals have largely been ignored.

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    I'm sure there was some panic, and I'm sure there was a lot of, "We're going to adjust and get through this, and kumbaya," but without acknowledging God.

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    And you're going to see with this seal, finally, sinners have to acknowledge God.

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    you're going to see with this seal, it's so horrific that sinful people said, "What's happening has to be the judgment of God." Look at verse 12. John says, "When he opened the sixth seal, I looked and behold, there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth and the full moon became like blood." This is the mother of all earthquakes. This is the first time in history an earthquake shook the entire planet.

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    Joel talks about this in Joel chapter 2, verses 30 and 31. This darkness. How does that happen? The best understanding is that this global earthquake triggers volcanic activity on a global scale and perhaps it is the the ash from all the volcanic activity that blocks the Sun, gives the moon its blood appearance. I don't know. Again, John's describing, he's not explaining.

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    Verse 13 says, "And the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

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    In the Greek, the word stars refers to any heavenly body other than the sun and the moon.

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    So these are probably asteroids or meteors pummeling the earth.

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    Boom!

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    Boom!

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    Just pounding the earth.

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    Verse 14, "The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place." The sky rolled up like a scroll.

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    What was that like?

    23:32-23:34

    John's describing, he's not explaining.

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    I have to wonder as I'm sort of imagining this in my head, with all that volcanic ash, maybe there was the wind pushing that and it had this appearance like it was the sky literally rolling up.

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    I don't know.

    23:48-23:49

    He's describing, not explaining.

    23:50-23:53

    He does say that every mountain and island was removed from its place.

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    The landscape of the whole earth shifted.

    23:58-23:59

    The whole earth is shaken.

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    The whole face of the earth is completely rearranged.

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    Verse 15, "Then the kings of the earth, and the great ones, and the generals, and the rich, and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free..." Stop there. That's seven categories.

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    Seven comes up a lot in Revelation, doesn't it?

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    Basically, he's saying all of society, everyone.

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    The president, the beggar, the blue-collar guy, the white-collar guy.

    24:29-24:59

    Whatever, everyone in every station and class of life, everyone, says these, everyone, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who is seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, And who can stand with the sixth seal?

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    Everyone seeks refuge.

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    Go in caves, go in the rubble of the rocks from the mountain that just collapsed.

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    Go underground, go anywhere.

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    We've got to get away.

    25:09-25:13

    Can you even wrap your brain around how horrifying this must be?

    25:14-25:20

    The Lord parenthetically here is saying, "Do I have your attention now?" There's a lot of astonishing things in Revelation chapter 6.

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    I want you to notice the absolute most astonishing thing was right here at the end.

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    This is the one that's hardest to believe, hardest to think about, hardest to wrap your brain around.

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    The most astonishing thing in Revelation chapter 6 is that despite everything that's happening, people will not repent and turn to God.

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    See that?

    25:40-25:41

    Oh, they cried out, didn't they?

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    They cried out.

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    Who did they cry out to?

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    The rocks, right?

    25:45-25:54

    Instead of crying out to God for mercy and forgiveness, they cry out for the rocks to fall on them.

    25:55-26:33

    you saw here in the text very clearly. You see, in this moment, in this moment, they get it. They get it. They realize that they can't dismiss this as a natural disaster. They can't dismiss this as mere coincidence. In this moment, they realize, you see it very clearly, this is the wrath of God. This is the wrath of the Lamb. And they realize those Bible people, those people that came to Christ during the Tribulation and were telling them, "Hey, I see what's going on I understand now. You need to turn to Christ because all of this stuff is His wrath." And they dismissed them. They killed them.

    26:33-26:35

    At this point, the lights come on like, "Wait, wait, wait.

    26:36-26:39

    These people were on to something. This is what's happening.

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    This is the wrath of the Lamb that they were talking about." But again, instead of crying out for mercy and forgiveness, they cry out for the rocks to fall on them.

    26:50-26:51

    And look at this delusion.

    26:52-26:56

    It's as if death is going to have them escape the wrath of the Lamb.

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    Death is an escape.

    26:58-27:05

    That is the same irrational thinking as someone who commits suicide or has seriously considered it.

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    Please hear me, I'm not making light of that.

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    I can't think of anything more serious than that.

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    I'm not trying to downplay it or trivialize it or make it a caricature.

    27:17-27:31

    But let's be honest, when someone gets to that point, the mindset is, "Death is an escape. Life is hard. I'll escape through death." And that's the same mindset that's happening with these people here.

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    "Death will be escape." And the reality is, death is not an escape.

    27:36-27:38

    Death is not an escape.

    27:39-27:42

    But this certainly shows you something about the hearts of these people, doesn't it?

    27:42-27:47

    As we close the sermon, I do want to remind you that you're going to face Jesus Christ someday.

    27:47-27:49

    So really the only question is, how would you like to face Him?

    27:50-27:52

    Really there's two options you have.

    27:52-27:56

    You can face the grace of the Lamb, or you can face the wrath of the Lamb.

    27:56-28:06

    By the way, all of this in Revelation chapter 6, this is the tamest part of God's judgment, believe it or not, because it's about to get a lot worse.

    28:06-28:07

    Is that what you want to face?

    28:08-28:15

    Resist the One who is coming in wrath to destroy everyone who's rejected their Creator and Savior.

    28:15-28:16

    Is that the One you want to face?

    28:16-28:21

    Or today, you can face the grace of the Lamb.

    28:22-28:22

    He loves you.

    28:23-28:26

    Jesus Christ wants to see you saved.

    28:26-28:30

    He takes no delight in this, these judgments.

    28:30-28:32

    The Bible says God does not take delight in the death of the wicked.

    28:32-28:34

    He loves you and He wants to see you saved.

    28:35-28:40

    He died and rose from the dead so that you can have forgiveness, so that you can have eternal life.

    28:41-28:46

    He did everything to prove that He loves you and He provided the way to save you.

    28:47-28:52

    That's the kind of God He is, which you don't have forever, because these events, they're coming.

    28:53-28:53

    They're coming.

    28:53-29:07

    Are you going to be one of the ones who reject Christ now, maybe alive during these events, and you become so hard-hearted to this point, you're going to cry out for the rocks to kill you rather than face the wrath of the Lamb.

    29:07-29:07

    So what's it going to be?

    29:08-29:11

    You want the grace of the Lamb or do you want the wrath of the Lamb?

    29:11-29:12

    You don't have forever.

    29:12-29:16

    Why can't today be the day that you encounter the grace of the Lamb?

    29:17-29:17

    Why can't that be today?

    29:18-29:20

    Why can't today be the day that you just say, "You know what?

    29:20-29:21

    I'm done pretending.

    29:21-29:23

    I'm done living for myself.

    29:23-29:25

    I'm done thinking about it.

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    I'm done.

    29:26-29:31

    Today is the day that I'm going to receive the gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ.

    29:31-29:35

    Will you bow your heads with me please as the worship team makes their way forward.

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    Bow your heads please.

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    Close your eyes.

    29:38-29:45

    For a minute I want to speak specifically to someone here who has not received Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

    29:45-29:47

    Person that wants to do that today.

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    Your person that maybe doesn't know how that even happened.

    29:52-29:56

    First of all, you need to pray, acknowledging and confessing your sin before God.

    29:56-29:59

    To say something like, "God, I realize that I need You.

    30:00-30:02

    I am a sinful person by nature.

    30:03-30:09

    I know I'm not what You want me to be, God, and it's my fault." You need to get to that place where you realize you need a Savior.

    30:09-30:11

    You need to cry out for His mercy.

    30:11-30:21

    Say, "God, though I'm a sinner, I cry out to You today, God, and I thank You for Your for your love and for your mercy that you've demonstrated in Jesus Christ.

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    You need to receive by faith the gift of eternal life by praying something like, "Jesus, thank You for dying for my sins, for raising so that I can have eternal life.

    30:34-30:37

    And Father in Heaven, I want to receive the gift of eternal life today.

    30:38-30:45

    Father in Heaven, I want to acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, and I want to allow Him, His rightful place, to be the Lord of my life.

    30:45-30:48

    Today, Father, I turn from my sin I turn to you.

    30:49-30:51

    There's somebody here that needs to pray that prayer today.

    30:51-30:55

    You can face the grace of the Lamb today, or you can face the wrath of the Lamb tomorrow.

    30:56-31:01

    Father, may Your Holy Spirit grab every heart here, especially the heart here that doesn't know You.

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    Let Your kindness bring them to repentance today.

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    I pray these things in Jesus' name, Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Revelation 6

GROUP

  1. What was your big “takeaway” from Revelation 6?

  2. Which of the seals especially stood out to you? Why?

  3. If these lost people (Rev 6:15-17) recognize these events as being the wrath of the Almighty, why will they not repent? What does this say about hard-heartedness?

BREAKOUT

Pray for an unsaved family member / friend / coworker - BY NAME - that they would come to know the “grace of the Lamb”. How can you help share the Gospel with that person?

When You Give...

Intro:

The Secret to Giving is Giving in Secret.

  1. When You Make Giving KNOWN, People Reward You. (Matt 6:2)

    ACTION

    AMOUNT

    ATTITUDE

  2. When You Make Giving SECRET, God Rewards You. (Matt 6:3-4)

    SPIRITUAL

    MATERIAL

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  • 01:04-01:07

    Alright, open up your Bibles with me please to Matthew 6.

    01:10-01:12

    Matthew 6, are you there?

    01:13-01:18

    I read a story this week, it blew my mind, I had to read it a couple of times.

    01:19-01:24

    67-year-old carpenter, Russell Herman. Have you ever heard of him?

    01:24-01:26

    Well, he died in 1994.

    01:29-01:35

    What was staggering about Mr. Herman was his will.

    01:36-01:46

    In his will, he left more than $2 billion for the city of St. Louis.

    01:47-01:52

    He left a billion and a half dollars for the state of Illinois.

    01:54-02:00

    His will also outlined that $2.5 billion was to go to the national forest system.

    02:02-02:20

    But most remarkable of all in his will, is he indicated that $6 trillion, $6 trillion was to go to the federal government to help pay off the national debt.

    02:22-02:23

    Pretty generous, isn't it?

    02:24-02:26

    Oh, there was a slight problem.

    02:28-02:35

    When Mr. Herman passed away, the only thing on the earth that he owned was a 1983 Oldsmobile.

    02:37-02:42

    And if anybody has a blue book handy, I would be really curious as to the value of that.

    02:44-02:46

    We're going to talk about money today.

    02:47-03:06

    And right now, somebody's like, "Oh, I knew it! I knew it!" and rope us in with the baptism, and then the pastor gets up because it's the beginning of the year, and he's going to be like "Arr, arr, arr, you need to give more," and "Arr, arr, arr, arr, come on, people, we need to up our offering." Not at all.

    03:08-03:08

    Not at all.

    03:10-03:14

    In fact, we're not even going to be talking about church-giving today.

    03:15-03:16

    You'll see in a second.

    03:18-03:27

    You know, Mr. Russell Herman He's like a lot of us, even though in his case it was posthumously.

    03:27-03:32

    He's like a lot of us, that we want to be known for being generous.

    03:32-03:38

    And you know what, this guy, his problem isn't in what he actually owned.

    03:39-03:42

    His problem isn't in what he actually gave.

    03:42-03:46

    His problem is, he wanted to be known.

    03:48-03:52

    posthumously, He wanted to be known as generous.

    03:54-04:00

    And when it comes to giving, that's exactly what Jesus warns us against.

    04:00-04:01

    Look at Matthew 6.

    04:02-04:03

    Just the first verse here.

    04:03-04:09

    Jesus said, "Beware!" "Beware her!" You might want to underline that.

    04:12-04:18

    "Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them.

    04:20-04:26

    This passage we're looking at today is in the Sermon on the Mount, and this is the greatest sermon ever preached.

    04:27-04:28

    Matthew 5, 6, and 7.

    04:30-04:35

    In this sermon, Jesus set a new standard that was absolutely unheard of in those days.

    04:37-04:47

    Because the Jews in Jesus' day and before that, they had taken God's standard in the Old Testament into a man-centered thing.

    04:49-04:58

    In other words, when it came to God's Word, many of the Jews taught and believed what matters is what you do, not who you are.

    05:00-05:03

    And wrong theology always leads to wrong living.

    05:04-05:06

    We saw that in Matthew 5.

    05:08-05:27

    You know, the Jewish mindset was, "I can hate people as long as I don't murder." Jesus comes along and says, "Murder is the same as hatred, because it starts in here." And you had people that said, "Well, I can lust as long as I don't commit the physical act of adultery." And Jesus said, "No, no, no.

    05:27-05:38

    Adultery starts in here." You had people that said, "Well, I can get a divorce as long as I do the paperwork properly." And Jesus said, "No, no, no.

    05:38-05:39

    This is a heart matter.

    05:40-05:41

    This is a heart matter.

    05:42-05:44

    It's not about what you do, it's about who you are.

    05:46-05:51

    Jesus comes along and He blasts them, and I would suggest to you He blasts us too.

    05:53-05:58

    And He says to them, "Your religion is a show." It's a show.

    05:59-06:01

    And you try to pass it off as real.

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    That's a problem.

    06:04-06:12

    That's why Jesus said in verse 1 here, "You are practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them.

    06:13-06:16

    That word "seen" in the Greek is the word "theotomi".

    06:17-06:20

    That's where we get the English word "theater".

    06:21-06:23

    You see the picture that Jesus was painting here?

    06:24-06:31

    He says when you do religious acts, you're performing for people.

    06:32-06:37

    It's like you're on stage in a theater and you're wanting applause.

    06:37-06:39

    You're wanting pats on the back.

    06:39-06:40

    You're wanting attention.

    06:40-06:41

    You're wanting acclaim.

    06:42-06:46

    And specifically, Jesus goes after three things.

    06:47-06:52

    We're going to do these three things over the course of three messages sprinkled out over the next few months.

    06:53-07:00

    But He goes after three things that God's people are naturally expected to do.

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    And the three things are giving, praying, and fasting.

    07:07-07:13

    And all of these messages are going to ask the same question.

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    And the question is this.

    07:18-07:19

    Are you doing this for God?

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    Or are you doing this for attention from people?

    07:25-07:28

    So who wants to do what God has called you to do with the right heart?

    07:29-07:29

    All in favor?

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    All in favor?

    07:33-07:34

    Okay.

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    All opposed?

    07:38-07:43

    You're like, "I'm not going to say it out loud." How about we start where Jesus started?

    07:44-07:44

    Let's talk about giving.

    07:45-07:46

    Here's the sermon, right here.

    07:47-07:50

    The secret to giving is giving in secret.

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    That's the sermon.

    07:54-07:54

    You are loved.

    07:56-08:02

    For those of you that would like me to elaborate a bit more upon that statement, the rest is for you.

    08:02-08:03

    Jot this down.

    08:03-08:05

    Number one, just two points.

    08:05-08:08

    It doesn't get any easier than this, as far as understanding.

    08:08-08:10

    It's the application that is extremely difficult.

    08:11-08:15

    Number one, when you make giving known, people reward you.

    08:16-08:19

    When you make giving known, people reward you.

    08:19-08:20

    Let's get back to the text.

    08:20-08:24

    "Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them.

    08:25-08:29

    For then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

    08:32-08:43

    "Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others.

    08:44-08:49

    Truly I say to you, they have received their reward." Let's stop there.

    08:49-08:57

    Notice Jesus says, "When you give to the needy..." When you give to the needy.

    08:58-09:01

    At this point in the sermon, "Oh, Jesus is going to talk about giving.

    09:02-09:07

    I wonder what He's going to say." You know what I found so interesting here?

    09:09-09:16

    When Jesus goes into this portion of His sermon about giving, He doesn't give a sales pitch for the act of giving.

    09:16-09:17

    He doesn't do that.

    09:18-09:22

    I thought the sermon might go something like this, "Let me tell you why it's important to give.

    09:23-09:31

    Let me tell you why it's important to recognize a need and be able to meet the need." I thought that's where He was going with that, but you know, He really doesn't.

    09:34-09:38

    Because Jesus just sort of assumes that you already get that as God's people, right?

    09:38-09:40

    He doesn't go after the action.

    09:41-09:47

    He says, "Thus, when you give..." I'm not going to address the action.

    09:47-09:54

    "When you give." Jesus knows His people just know that you're supposed to give to the needy.

    09:54-09:57

    And again, specifically, that's the kind of giving we're talking about today.

    09:58-10:00

    We're not talking about church giving.

    10:02-10:04

    We're talking about charitable giving.

    10:05-10:06

    Giving to the needy.

    10:08-10:23

    1 John 3:16 says this, "If anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?" It's a rhetorical question.

    10:25-10:25

    Right?

    10:26-10:31

    Jesus doesn't make a sales pitch for the action, nor does He address the amount.

    10:32-10:39

    And some people might think that's where Jesus was going, and there are some people that might think that's where I'm going with this message, though we are not.

    10:41-10:44

    Like, oh, He's going to start guilting us into tithing.

    10:44-10:45

    Here comes the guilt trip.

    10:45-10:48

    Here comes the sales pitch for tithing.

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    No, not at all.

    10:52-11:02

    Actually, tithing is an old testament New Testament giving is not an act of the law.

    11:03-11:04

    It's an act of love.

    11:07-11:11

    And again, specifically, Jesus is talking about charitable giving.

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    And 2 Corinthians 8.3 basically says everything you need to know about New Testament giving.

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    We've done a whole sermon series on this.

    11:20-11:25

    Alex and Stacy Gianetti are firing up Financial Peace University again.

    11:25-11:31

    So if you want a more exhaustive view of the Bible and money and things like that, you guys are going to be available after service.

    11:32-11:34

    You have a table set up, and they're going to be back.

    11:35-11:37

    If you want more information, you've got to take this class.

    11:37-11:40

    If you've not taken FPU, you've got to sign up for it.

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    It will change your life.

    11:43-11:46

    So, here's the short version.

    11:47-11:58

    2 Corinthians 8.3, "For they gave according to their means, as I can testify and beyond their means, of their own accord." And if I was doing a sermon on this, the points would be something like this.

    11:58-12:02

    New Testament giving is to be proportional, sacrificial, and volitional.

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    That's what the Bible says about giving.

    12:05-12:06

    Proportional - what's in your wallet?

    12:06-12:08

    You give according to what God has given you.

    12:09-12:10

    Right? It's sacrificial.

    12:11-12:14

    You go beyond what you think you're able to give.

    12:15-12:16

    We're going to talk more about that.

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    And it's volitional. It's purely a choice.

    12:21-12:24

    So Jesus doesn't address the action or the amount.

    12:24-12:26

    Jesus goes right after the attitude.

    12:26-12:27

    Did you see that?

    12:28-12:46

    He says in verse 2, "That's when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets." That word "hypocrite," interestingly, Jesus is sustaining the illustration here because the word for "hypocrite" in the Greek literally refers to a person who wore a mask.

    12:47-12:50

    Not Batman, but an actor on stage.

    12:51-12:53

    Well, maybe Batman, I guess, technically.

    12:54-12:56

    An actor on stage, that's what a hypocrite was.

    12:57-13:05

    So in our vernacular, we would say something like, "Harrison Ford is one of my favorite hypocrites." And I know that sounds weird, but that's what the word was.

    13:05-13:06

    He was an actor.

    13:07-13:09

    He pretends to be something that he's not.

    13:10-13:11

    He's not really Indiana Jones.

    13:13-13:15

    He's pretending, right?

    13:15-13:23

    And Jesus said, "Don't be an actor!" So what's a hypocrite in the church?

    13:24-13:33

    Well, it's either somebody that's pretending to be a Christian, and they're not, or it's somebody who is a Christian that's not acting like a true Christian.

    13:34-13:38

    Not acting like a spirit-filled, walking by the Holy Spirit.

    13:40-13:44

    You're not being who God has called you to be, who God has empowered you to be.

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    In that case, you're a hypocrite.

    13:46-13:48

    So Jesus said this is what they do.

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    They sound trumpets.

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    This is why they do it.

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    and they do it to be praised by others.

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    And this is what they get.

    13:54-13:54

    They get a reward.

    13:56-13:56

    Do you see that?

    13:57-14:03

    "Sound no trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others.

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    Truly I say to you, they have received their reward." Now, depending on who you read, some people say in Jesus' day, this was a literal thing.

    14:16-14:21

    That some of the religious people actually had a little silver trumpet.

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    And when they would go in the streets, they would play this little trumpet, and that was to alert the poor people, "Hey, somebody's about to make a donation!" And they'd come running.

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    And they did it not only to get the attention of the poor people, but they did it to get the attention of everybody else.

    14:40-14:46

    "Hey everybody, look how generous I'm about to be!" I want to talk about trumpets for a second.

    14:49-14:54

    I don't know. I wasn't around in the first century, so I don't know if they had a little silver trumpet or not.

    14:56-15:00

    But either way, the point is the same, isn't it?

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    The point is, some people do charitable acts hoping that people see it.

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    secretly longing that people see it.

    15:15-15:29

    And Jesus pointed out that people will even do things to draw attention to themselves to make sure that people see it.

    15:31-15:38

    And right now, some people are sitting there going, "Shame on them, Pastor Jeff.

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    Shame on people that do that.

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    Shame on people that give and let people know that they're giving so they get a pat on the back.

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    Shame on those people.

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    But today, I want to suggest to you...

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    (trumpet playing)

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    I took lessons...

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    I took lessons in elementary school.

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    I'm 43 now.

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    But I would suggest to you today that there are a lot of trumpets being blown.

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    Even in our day.

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    You're like, "What do you mean, Pastor Jeff?

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    I don't have a trumpet." Well, here's the thing.

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    Maybe you make a donation to the needy.

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    Maybe you do some charitable act.

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    Let's just be honest with you.

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    How many of us have done that?

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    We did this charitable act and we are just waiting for something to come up in a conversation with somebody so that we can interject and let them know about our awesome act of charity.

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    Come on, how many people have done that?

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    How many?

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    I've done it.

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    It's wrong.

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    I've done it.

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    I'm just hoping they say something so I can bring it up.

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    You know, they're like, "Hey, I think this desk needs a new coat of paint." And you're like, "Speaking of coats, I gave some coats to the coat drive for the cold people." True or false?

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    Or we get on social media.

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    And I think social media is our biggest trumpet.

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    Social media is not even a trumpet.

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    Social media is the sousaphone, right?

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    I better post this picture on Facebook so people see how charitable I am.

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    Or you're walking to some sporting event downtown.

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    There's a homeless person there, begging.

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    Like, I'm gonna help this person out.

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    But you're reaching for your cell phone first.

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    And you're like, dude, I'm gonna give you some money, but get in the shot.

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    Get in the shot.

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    Get in the shot.

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    Can you look more homeless and/or hungry?

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    Are you ready?

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    (trumpet music)

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    (sighs)

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    What's on my agenda today?

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    Oh yeah!

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    I'm going to the Light of Life mission today!

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    [trumpet fanfare]

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    Let me put this on Twitter so everybody knows what I'm doing today.

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    [trumpet fanfare]

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    Oh, wait a minute.

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    I've got to make it sound humble.

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    So I'll say something like, "Gone to the Light of Life mission today.

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    #SoHumbledForTheOpportunityToGiveBack"

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    [HONKING]

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    True or false?

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    Then we got to get on our phone.

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    How many likes did I get on that post?

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    [HONKING]

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    How many comments did I get on that--

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    [HONKING]

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    Did anybody retweet it?

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    [HONKING]

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    We want people to think that we are generous and thoughtful and giving and their acknowledgement of that, those likes or loves or comments on Facebook, a verbal comment to you, those are like those little comments and likes and things, those are like M&Ms for our self-centeredness.

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    "Mm, yeah, mm, mm, mm, I am pretty awesome, huh?

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    God probably is so glad that I'm on His team." Well, that's the problem.

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    Jesus said, that little acknowledgement that you get from others, that like, that comment of, "Wow, that was really generous of you." That comment? Jesus said that's all you get.

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    You get a passing comment and barely an afterthought from someone who's going to forget all about it in 45 seconds.

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    You wanted people's attention.

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    You got it.

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    And that's all you get.

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    Now listen closely.

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    There is nothing wrong with receiving a comment.

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    Like if somebody somehow finds out that you did something charitable, or somebody finds out somehow not from you, but they find out somehow, and they come up to you and they're like, "Dude, I thought that was great what you did." And you're like, "Shut your mouth!

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    They're going to take my reward from me!" It's not like that.

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    There's nothing wrong with getting the comment, but please hear me, There's absolutely something wrong with you looking to get the comment.

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    Do you see the difference?

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    Where's the difference?

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    The difference is right here.

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    The difference is here.

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    It's a hard thing, right?

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    So when you make giving known, people reward you.

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    Ho-hum.

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    Here's the good news.

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    When you make giving secret, number two, When you make giving secret, God rewards you.

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    When you make giving secret, God rewards you.

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    The secret to giving is giving in secret.

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    How secret? Well, let's get back to the text here.

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    Jesus got the negative out of the way here.

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    Here's the positive. Verse 3.

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    "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret." How secret?

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    Jesus said your giving should be so secret that your left hand doesn't know what your right hand is doing.

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    That's pretty secret, isn't it?

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    That's pretty secret.

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    You know, these two guys have known each other their whole lives, and they're never more than a couple feet away from each other.

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    Jesus said that's how secretive giving should be.

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    That this guy's over here giving, and this guy has no idea what's going on.

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    A part of you doesn't even know that giving is happening.

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    You go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on a second.

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    Pastor Jeff, how is that even possible?

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    That you can give, and a part of you doesn't even know that you gave?" I'm going to tell you exactly how you do that.

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    Write this down.

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    You give and you forget about it.

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    You give secretly, yes.

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    But how do I do it without my left hand knowing?

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    You give and you forget about it.

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    What do you mean by that?

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    Here's what I mean.

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    When we give to the needy, when we give to charity, oftentimes we dwell on it, don't we?

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    we think about it, we roll it around in our heads.

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    Maybe we saw this person in need and we had the means to give and we gave that person money and we just keep thinking about that.

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    Like, yeah, that was pretty nice that I did that.

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    I'm not sure.

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    I'm not sure if I'm gonna have budget problems now 'cause I was kind of counting on that money.

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    Or I was gonna buy a new something with that money, but I guess I'm not gonna do that now.

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    Maybe I'll have the money for that next time.

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    And we just keep thinking about it.

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    You know, that was pretty generous what I did.

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    But you know, I gave to that guy.

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    That guy had a need and I gave to him.

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    And you know, he really didn't seem that grateful.

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    You know, I gave that guy.

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    I just gave that guy $700.

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    And you would think he'd be treating me differently now, and he's not.

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    I'm a little disappointed.

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    I would think that he'd be a little more appreciative.

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    Or shouldn't there be some sense in which he kind of owes me now?

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    Why isn't he treating me any different?

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    You have to let that go.

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    Giving to the needy - listen to this.

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    How do I let that go? How do I forget about it?

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    Giving to the needy is giving to God.

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    Not my idea. Look at Proverbs 19.17.

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    "Whoever is generous to the poor," look at this, "lends to the Lord, and He will repay him for his deed." Can you wrap your brain around the magnitude of that verse?

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    When you give to a needy person, it is like you're handing that money directly to God.

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    Proverbs says that God's going to pay you back.

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    Do you think He's good for it?

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    Do you think He's good for it?

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    So, the expectations - listen to this - the expectations from those that you give to - the needy, the people that you give to - your expectations from them have got to be a hard zero.

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    When you give, do not expect anything from the person that you give to for good or for bad.

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    give with zero expectation to the person that you're giving to. Is that clear?

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    But we're so worried that no one's going to know. I mean, I didn't post a picture. Did it really happen?

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    Or what if...

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    Oh, oh, oh, what if I live my whole life and no one knows about this generous act that I performed?

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    What if nobody ever knows what I did for that guy?

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    Forget about it.

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    Because God knows.

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    And God remembers.

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    And most exciting, God repays.

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    He does.

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    That's why in verse 4, look at the rest of the verse.

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    Jesus said, "And your father who sees in secret will reward you." Jesus said, "God will reward you." When you give to the needy, when you forget about it, your left hand doesn't know what your right hand is doing, it's done, it's gone, I gave, I gave to God, I'm done.

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    It's in His court now. It's in God's court now.

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    and he will see to the reward." You're like, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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    Wait a minute, Pastor Jeff, there's a reward?

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    Are you telling me that I give to get something?

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    Is that what you're saying?

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    I give to get something?" Yes.

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    That is exactly what I'm saying.

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    I don't want there to be any misunderstanding.

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    Giving is about getting.

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    Somebody right now is like, "I don't think that's a very good motivation, Pastor Jeff, quite honestly.

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    I don't think that's a good motivation." And I would say, "Well, you're going to have to take that up with Jesus.

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    Because He's the one who put us up to it." Right?

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    Listen, the desire for a reward is a good thing.

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    If God didn't want you motivated by the reward, why did He mention it?

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    Why didn't Jesus just say something hallmarky like giving is its own reward, something you'll feel nice inside?

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    He didn't say that.

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    He says, "My Father is going to reward you when you give in secret." If He didn't want you motivated by that, why did He say it?

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    Here's the thing, when it comes to giving to the needy, when it comes to giving a charitable gift, here's the thing, this is the whole point.

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    You have to choose who you want to reward you.

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    That's all.

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    I can tell people what I've done and get a pat on the back, or I can keep it secret, an awesome, eternal God He's going to give me a real reward.

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    You get to pick.

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    By the way, it's one or the other.

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    If you get a reward from people, you forfeit your reward from God.

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    Like, okay, well, Jesus said it. What is the reward from God?

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    Quickly, two things. Material and spiritual.

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    Material and spiritual. Let's unpack that real quick.

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    Spiritual. Let's talk about spiritual first.

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    Luke 16.11 is the parable of the dishonest manager.

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    And Jesus said, "If then you have not been faithful in the unrighteous wealth..." And the context in that passage is money.

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    Unrighteous wealth just refers to cash, money.

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    "If you have not been faithful in the unrighteous wealth, who will entrust to you the true riches?" You're like, "Well, Pastor Jeff, what are the true riches?

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    What are the true riches he's talking about?" I don't know.

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    But don't you want to find out?

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    Don't you want to find out what that is?

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    I mean, think about it.

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    Have you seen the kind of gift-giver that God has proven Himself to be?

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    God gives gifts like eternal life.

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    God gives gifts like, "Here's my Son. He came to the earth, and He died for you so your sins could be forgiven." What an awesome gift!

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    Here's my son, he rose from the dead so that you can have eternal life.

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    What an awesome gift!

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    My son purchased your way into heaven.

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    What an awesome gift!

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    And if those are the kind of gifts, how about the gift of the Holy Spirit?

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    God Himself will indwell and reside within us.

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    And I'm suggesting to you, church, if those are the kinds of gifts that God has this track record of proving Himself to be, Don't you want to find out whatever these spiritual gifts are that are rewards for faithfulness with the money?

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    That's spiritual.

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    And there's a material reward too, by the way.

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    What's the material reward?

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    It's more money.

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    The material reward for faithful giving is more money.

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    2 Corinthians 9.6 says the point is this, In the whole passage, like I said, we did a whole sermon series on this a few years ago, 2 Corinthians 8 and 9.

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    It's on the website. It's called "I Love to Give." But 2 Corinthians 9.6 says, "The point is this, whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly.

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    And whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully." You see, it's a sowing and reaping principle.

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    I have some seeds up here. Can you see them?

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    I have some seeds.

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    And there's a principle of agriculture that Jesus said applies to money.

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    And that Paul in 2 Corinthians 9 applies to money.

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    And here's the principle.

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    With seeds, just think about seeds.

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    What do you do with seeds?

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    You sow the seed, and it grows, and then you reap, and then you take that, and you sell, and you get money to buy more seeds so you can sow more, so more grows, and you reap more, You sell more, and you get more money, which you use to buy more, so you can plant more.

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    Do you see what's happening?

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    It's called a cycle of increase.

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    The more you sow, the more you reap.

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    And the Bible says this principle is true with money.

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    And sowing.

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    Sowing starts with a very simple thing, and it's just letting go of the seed, right?

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    I'm like, I've got five seeds here.

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    Five seeds, and I'm sure hoping that I reap a harvest with them.

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    Well, here's the thing, as long as I hold them in my hand, they're not going to do me any good, are they?

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    What do I got to do?

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    What do I got to do?

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    I've got to be willing to let it go.

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    Right?

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    You've got to be willing to let it go.

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    And do you know, that's how it is with money?

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    I don't have five seeds this time, I have five coins.

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    Some of you think you know where this is going.

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    But it's the same principle.

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    If I, by faith, trust God, what He said about money is true in His Word, then I've got to be willing...

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    I'm not going to throw it.

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    I've got to be willing to let it go.

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    I've got to be willing to let it go.

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    Somebody's like, "Man, I am still sitting in that seat next week." What was that? Thirteen cents?

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    That's worth sitting in the front row.

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    It does no good until you let it go.

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    That's what God says about money.

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    "Give to me, I'll give you back more.

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    And you'll have more to give me, and then I'll give you back even more." And God knows who's giving it away, and He's going to make sure that money is being directed to the people that are faithfully giving it away.

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    He does that.

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    We could line people up here on this platform and give testimony to seeing God's hand at work that way.

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    We could line people up and we could tell stories until Easter the way we've seen God make that happen.

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    If you hand money over to God, He hands you back a bigger amount.

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    So the secret to giving is giving in secret.

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    It's expected that God's people are going to have a heart for giving to the needy.

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    And we should expect a reward.

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    Again, the question is what reward do you want?

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    Oh, you can make sure that people I know you give, and you can get the underwhelming reward of their applause, or you can purely make it a thing between you and God, and get a God-sized reward.

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    So today, at Harvest Bible Chapel, we just want to simply encourage you...

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    (trumpet playing)

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    Let's pray.

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    Who's with me?

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    Who's with me?

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    All right.

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    Let's pray.

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, we are oftentimes no different than the people that Jesus was speaking directly to in this passage.

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    God, I confess to you, there's times I want people to think I'm such a great pastor, and I'm such a great example, and look at what Jeff did.

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    And there's no reward in that.

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    God, I'm sure there's some brothers and sisters here in these seats that are in the same position.

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    Sometimes they feel like, "I just did that so people would notice.

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    I didn't do that so God would notice." I pray that today's a day of repentance, God.

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    I pray that today is the day that we put the trumpets away and we stop being so focused about People noticing our charity, and you alone noticing our charity because you promised to give a reward.

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    We thank you for that, God.

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    And I know some of the things that your Word says that we have looked at today, I'm sure there are people here today that think this is crazy stuff.

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    Father, I also know there's many people sitting here today that are going to say, "I know this is true, because I have done it, and I have experienced it, and I've seen God's faithful provision when I've made giving a thing between me and God." Father, for the people today that might be questioning, might be struggling, I pray that by an act of faith, they would put this to the test.

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    That they would secretly find a need, and secretly give to that need, doing everything in their power to make sure that you're the only person it knows about.

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    And God, I know based on the integrity of Your Word and the power that You have to back it up, that You're going to reveal Yourself mightily to the person that does it.

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    Increase our faith in all areas, especially in the area of giving to the needy.

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    We praise You and we thank You, Father, in Jesus' name.

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    Amen.

Small Group Discussion
Read Matthew 6:1-4

GROUP

  1. Be an armchair psychologist: Why do you think people naturally want others’ attention when they give? Be honest - have you ever given, hoping that someone would know?

  2. Do you think “giving to get a reward” (Matt 6:4) is a wrong motivation? Defend your answer.

  3. What are the rewards God gives “secret” givers? Be specific.

BREAKOUT

Pray for one another to give as Christ commanded - secretly.

Questions from the Congregation - Part 10

Note: The time signatures [00:00] below indicate the start of a question if you'd like to skip to a particular one of interest in the audio file.

  1. [02:53] - Q: When was Jesus born? Why do we celebrate on December 25th?

  2. [03:54] - Q: Is celebrating Christmas ordained or supported by scripture?

  3. [06:17] - LIVE AUDIENCE Q: I have a friend who is young in her faith yet she got a tarot card reading. I’ve been mentoring her about her faith and she also has a young daughter. I’m trying to figure out the best way to talk to her about these tarot cards and she’s also asking about her horoscope. How would you confront her in a loving way about this.
    A: See 1 Peter

  4. [08:23] - Q: I believe that an important aspect of the virgin birth is that in order for Jesus to be sinless, He needed to be free from Adam’s sin. I think that Adam's sin is perpetuated in humanity through the seed of man. By being conceived by the Holy Spirit instead of the seed of a man, Jesus was not conceived with Adam's original sin and can start completely sinless. Do you agree?
    A: Yes!

  5. [09:33] - Q: What is HBC principle on tithe and offering?
    A: See 2 Cor 8:3 - For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means, of their own accord…
    2 Cor 8:12 - For if the readiness is there, it is acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what he does not have.
    2 Cor 9:7 - Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
    Re-listen to the
    I Love to Give sermon series on God’s view of money.

  6. [16:16] - Q: God is always referred as 'He' and 'Father'. Does this gender pronoun and title refer to a physical characteristic of God of His relationship with us? I.E. If the Holy Spirit is God; should we refer to it (Holy Spirit) as 'He'? Typically we don't assign a gender pronoun to spirits in the English language unless were able to assign the spirit to a person's gender.

  7. [19:06] - Q: Why does God forbid women to be an “elder” or hold some authority in church?
    A: See 1 Timothy 2:12-14 - I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

  8. [24:45] - LIVE AUDIENCE Q: Can you help me understand the verse (James 2:17, 22-24), “faith without works is dead”? Doesn’t that contradict what we’re taught to believe that we’re just fine “saved” through faith and not works as it says in Romans?

  9. [29:44] - Q: If we came from Adam and Eve shouldn't we all have the same last name and be the same family?
    A: See Acts 17:26 - And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place…

  10. [32:52] - LIVE TXT Q: How do we guard ourselves against legalism? I.E. If I abstain from drinking, how do I guard against pressing others to not drink or get self-righteous or prideful in my abstinence?

  11. [36:46] - Q: Where did Cain's wife come from?
    A: See: Genesis 3:20 - The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
    Genesis 5:4 - The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.

  12. [37:58] - Q: At what point during a human's development is it "issued" a soul? At conception? Sometime while in the womb? Or at the baby's first breathe?
    A: See Luke 1:41 - And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit…
    Psalm 139:13 - For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb.

  13. [39:44] - LIVE TXT Q: If John knew when the rapture happened (when God showed him) why doesn't it say in the Bible when the rapture will happen?
    A: Soon!

    Any question that was missed due to time constraints during the service Pastor Jeff will address the answer
    on the blog.

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  • Mark Ort:

    01:04-01:10

    What we normally do here at Harvest, if you're new, or if this is your first time here, is we go through a book of the Bible.

    Mark Ort:

    01:10-01:12

    And right now we're going through what?

    Mark Ort:

    01:12-01:13

    Revelation.

    Mark Ort:

    01:13-01:14

    And it's been pretty amazing.

    Mark Ort:

    01:15-01:19

    And, but once in a while we take a little break, and this is one of those times during the year.

    Mark Ort:

    01:19-01:23

    And actually one of my favorite times to come to church is Q&A day.

    Mark Ort:

    01:24-01:26

    As usual, we have how many questions?

    Mark Ort:

    01:26-01:27

    18?

    Mark Ort:

    01:27-01:29

    They're always really good questions.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:29-01:30

    They are always good questions.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:30-01:35

    These are questions you submitted, whether it's in person or through the website.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:36-01:40

    We'll take some time, maybe pass a microphone if somebody has a question live, somebody's visiting.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:41-01:44

    It's like, yeah, I'm gonna stump the preacher.

    Mark Ort:

    01:44-01:45

    That's pretty dangerous, you know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:46-01:47

    I know, I know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:47-01:49

    And why don't we go over the ground rules first?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:49-01:53

    We are, we're answering the questions as we understand them to be asked, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:53-02:00

    So we're just looking at how they were written and we're going to try to answer them according to what we think is being asked, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:01-02:02

    And what are the other rules?

    Mark Ort:

    02:02-02:04

    short answer. It's the short

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:04-02:06

    answer. We're going to give the short answer, right? I probably should have wrote these down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:07-02:17

    And I will blog on our website questions we don't cover. Oh, we'll be taking a few select live questions with the microphone via texting during this forum.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:18-02:19

    Are you ready? I'm ready, go ahead.

    Mark Ort:

    02:20-02:28

    All right, first question, Jeff. And this is a great question because we just came out of the Christmas Eve and somebody wants to know when was Jesus born?

    Mark Ort:

    02:29-02:32

    Why do we celebrate on December 25th?

    Mark Ort:

    02:32-02:36

    Is celebrating Christmas ordained or supported by scripture?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:37-02:40

    All right, in order, when was Jesus born?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:40-02:42

    We don't know exactly what birthday is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:43-02:47

    He was probably born actually 6 BC when they reset the calendar.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:47-02:51

    And we think zero is the year he was born, but then they found they were off.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:51-02:53

    He was probably born like 6 BC.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:54-02:56

    Why do we celebrate on December 25th?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:57-03:00

    Well, there was a... depending who you ask, you may have different reasons.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:00-03:04

    There was a Roman pagan holiday called Saturnalia, the festival of lights.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:04-03:16

    The Christians sort of adopted that to say, "We're going to use this time, since it's the time of year people were celebrating, and all of that, we're going to use it to celebrate the incarnation of Jesus Christ." Let me look at my notes here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:16-03:26

    The first recorded date of Christmas being celebrated on December 25th was in the year 336 during the time of Roman Emperor Constantine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:26-03:28

    Is it ordained by Scripture? No.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:28-03:35

    The Bible doesn't say, "Thou shalt celebrate the incarnation on December 25th." The Bible does not say that. So why do we do it?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:36-03:37

    I look at it as an opportunity.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:38-03:42

    It's a time of year, let's just be honest, it's a time of year people go to church that don't normally go to church, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:43-03:47

    And if you came to any of our services last week, what did we do?

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:47-03:54

    We talked about the fact that God became a man, and we talked about what it means that Jesus came and died for our sins and rose from the dead.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:54-03:57

    It's a chance that people can hear the gospel that they might not otherwise.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:57-04:01

    So I look at it as taking advantage of an opportunity.

    Mark Ort:

    04:01-04:01

    Excellent.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:02-04:03

    I wasn't going

    Mark Ort:

    04:03-04:05

    to bring this up, but I thought it was kind of funny.

    Mark Ort:

    04:05-04:15

    Do you remember, Jeff and I used to do prison ministry together, and every Christmas when we would go in for the Christmas party, there would be some guy that would try to stump us.

    Mark Ort:

    04:15-04:24

    He'd come up and puff his chest out and say, "You know, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th." Trying to like provoke an argument or something.

    Mark Ort:

    04:25-04:28

    And we'd be like, "Yeah, we know." - Mark knew, I was like, "What?

    Mark Ort:

    04:28-04:29

    He wasn't?

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:29-04:35

    What are we doing?" He like, "You know that we're here giving cookies and pop celebrating Christmas.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:35-04:39

    You know that if you change our mind on this, we're gonna stop doing these Christmas parties."

    Mark Ort:

    04:39-04:41

    And he was probably not born December 25th.

    Mark Ort:

    04:41-04:45

    And actually the Christmas party at the jail was just what Jeff was explaining.

    Mark Ort:

    04:46-04:52

    It was such a good opportunity to go in and share the love of Christ and share with them why Christ came.

    Mark Ort:

    04:53-04:54

    Why did he even come?

    Mark Ort:

    04:56-04:56

    All right, ready for the next one?

    Mark Ort:

    04:57-04:58

    Right, I'm ready for the next one.

    Mark Ort:

    04:58-04:58

    You know what?

    Mark Ort:

    04:59-05:00

    Let's do a live one right away.

    Mark Ort:

    05:01-05:02

    Let's do one right now.

    Mark Ort:

    05:02-05:05

    Well, what happened was when we did live ones last time, I forgot about it.

    Mark Ort:

    05:05-05:07

    And I think we did like one.

    Mark Ort:

    05:07-05:12

    And then I was so intent on the questions that we had that I don't think I asked for a live one again.

    Mark Ort:

    05:12-05:13

    All right,

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:13-05:16

    do we have a extra microphone that we can pass around?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:17-05:17

    I'm sure somebody does.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:18-05:20

    All right, what question do you have for Mark?

    Questioner 2:

    05:21-05:44

    So I have a friend who is young in her faith and she taught a tarot card reading and I have, I've been mentoring her like I talk with her about her faith and also about, she's a young daughter and I'm trying to figure out a good way to talk to her about this tarot cards and also she's asking questions about a horse.

    Questioner 2:

    05:45-05:48

    How could you confront the love of the Lord?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:49-06:07

    Well, when somebody gets involved in those things, I point them to God's word to say, "God is very clear how he feels about "trying to obtain spiritual information apart from him, "whether that's witchcraft or using mediums or whatever." Tarot cards are certainly on that list.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:07-06:14

    It's absolutely forbidden, Old Testament and New Testament, reason being is God is the source of truth, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:15-06:16

    God's Word is the source of truth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:17-06:26

    And the whole idea of tarot cards and horoscopes and all of those things is we're going to try to get spiritual information apart from God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:26-06:34

    And when you look at it from that perspective, kind of a big picture, I mean, you see it for the blasphemous thing that it is, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:34-06:41

    God's like, here, here's everything you need to know about me, about life, about the past, about the future, and we're like, "You know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:42-06:52

    I'm going to consult another source." And ultimately, there's demonic things underlying those things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:52-07:00

    If this person is a professing Christian, that's the place you need to hit to say, "Look, you believe in Jesus Christ, you trust God's word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:01-07:06

    If that's true, then we need to take a look at what God's word says." You already have the source of authority thing as a foundation,

    Mark Ort:

    07:06-07:07

    right?

    Mark Ort:

    07:07-07:14

    And it's 2 Peter 1 where it says that we do have all things pertaining to life and godliness.

    Mark Ort:

    07:14-07:22

    So if we have all things pertaining to life and godliness in God's word, as Jeff was saying, we don't need to resort to those kinds of things.

    Mark Ort:

    07:23-07:31

    Certainly if she's a professing Christian, that should ring true in her mind that, oh, okay, I should go to God's word for these things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:31-07:32

    Right, yeah, you get an advantage.

    Mark Ort:

    07:33-07:34

    If she's a professing

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:34-07:37

    believer, you have an advantage because you're like, "Hey, you say you believe in the Bible?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:37-07:43

    Okay, let's go to it." That's much harder when you have a friend that's not a believer, because then you don't have the same source of authority.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:44-07:48

    You can certainly warn them, like, "Look, you know what the Bible says?" But to an unbeliever, like, "What's the Bible?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:49-07:53

    Like, I don't believe that anyways, right?" So, all right, next question.

    Mark Ort:

    07:53-07:55

    Okay, next question is kind of a long one.

    Mark Ort:

    07:56-08:04

    I believe that an important aspect of the virgin birth is that in order for Jesus to be sinless, he needed to be free from Adam's sin.

    Mark Ort:

    08:05-08:09

    I think that Adam's sin is perpetuated in humanity through the seed of man.

    Mark Ort:

    08:10-08:19

    By being conceived by the Holy Spirit instead of the seed of man, Jesus was not conceived with Adam's original sin and can start completely sinless.

    Mark Ort:

    08:20-08:20

    Do you agree?

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:22-08:22

    Yes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:23-08:24

    No, I do agree with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:24-08:27

    I mean, whoever wrote that question, that's very well stated.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:27-08:28

    I do agree with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:28-08:34

    You know, in Genesis, what is it, Genesis 3.15, God promised that the Messiah was going to come through Eve's seed.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:35-08:37

    Woman is never said to have seed otherwise.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:38-08:42

    It's weird that God would associate the seed with a woman, but he did very specifically for a reason.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:43-08:54

    It wasn't man's seed that brought the Messiah, it was through the woman that the Messiah came through the Holy Spirit's conceiving in Mary.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:55-08:57

    I personally, I agree with all of that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:57-08:58

    Well

    Mark Ort:

    08:58-09:00

    worded and we agree.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:00-09:02

    Yeah, whoever wrote that, you're preaching next week.

    Mark Ort:

    09:03-09:03

    Okay, next

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:03-09:04

    one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:04-09:08

    What is Harvest Bible Chapel's principle on tithe and offering?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:09-09:10

    We did a whole series on this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:11-09:12

    How many years ago was that there?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:12-09:13

    I know it was a few years ago, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:14-09:14

    I Love to Give.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:15-09:18

    We did a whole series on that that is available on our website, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:18-09:20

    For the low, low cost of, what is it now, Murph?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:21-09:22

    It's free, right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:22-09:28

    If you go on our website, we have a whole series called I Love to Give, and it's all about what we believe about tithes and offering.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:28-09:30

    I'm gonna give you the highlights there right quick, all right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:31-09:32

    2 Corinthians 8.3.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:32-09:36

    2 Corinthians 8 and 9, that's where the servant-seers came from.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:37-09:39

    Here's the principles on tithes and offerings.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:39-09:51

    "For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means, of their own accord." Now here, when Paul was writing 2 Corinthians, he was getting an offering together for the poor church in Jerusalem.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:52-09:54

    And I believe this was the Macedonians, right Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:55-09:56

    That they gave...

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:57-09:59

    Paul says this is how they gave, right Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:59-10:01

    They gave according to their means.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:01-10:07

    You know, like the commercial, "What's in your wallet?" They gave according to their means, not according to somebody else's means.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:08-10:10

    I didn't tie the according to how much Mark makes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:11-10:15

    According to and beyond their means, they gave extra.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:15-10:17

    And of their own accord, there was a choice.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:18-10:22

    Next verse, 2 Corinthians 8, 12, the readiness is there.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:23-10:25

    It is acceptable according to what a person has.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:25-10:27

    There it is again, not according to what he does not have.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:28-10:31

    God is not asking you to give something you don't have.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:31-10:34

    He wants you to give according to what you do have.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:34-10:39

    And then here's one of my favorites that just really settles at 2 Corinthians 9, 7.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:40-10:43

    Each one must give as he has decided in his heart.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:43-10:44

    This is between you and the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:44-10:47

    I don't know what anybody in this church gives outside of Aaron and I.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:48-10:49

    And other than that, I don't know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:50-10:51

    You have to decide.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:52-10:54

    And here's some, you're like, well, how do I decide?

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:54-10:56

    Well, here's a couple of things to think about.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:56-10:59

    Not reluctantly or under compulsion.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:59-11:01

    You shouldn't give to God like, "Hey, you know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:01-11:05

    I'm gonna give this, but I really shouldn't." Don't.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:06-11:08

    If you're on the fence, just don't give.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:08-11:09

    Just keep.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:10-11:12

    Don't give reluctantly, don't give under compulsion.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:13-11:15

    How many times you guys have been coming to church for a long time?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:15-11:20

    How many times have I gotten up and given you this, "You better start giving." How many times have I given that speech mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:21-11:22

    Never, zero.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:23-11:25

    Why? Because people shouldn't give under compulsion.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:25-11:28

    You shouldn't be like, "Well, I'm gonna give because Jeff made me feel guilty.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:29-11:30

    This is between you and the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:30-11:36

    Giving is an act of worship, just like singing, just like getting into his Word, just like outreach.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:36-11:52

    Giving is part of worship, and it shouldn't be done under compulsion any more so than I would come over during song time, there's up here leading worship and you're not singing, and I come up and grab you, I'm like, "Dude, you better start singing or we're gonna have a problem." And then you start singing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:53-11:54

    Is that really worship then?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:54-11:56

    That's the same way with giving, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:57-11:59

    So here's the thing, God loves a cheerful giver.

    Pastor Jeff:

    11:59-12:03

    And I love that the word for cheerful in the Greek is where we get the word hilarious.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:04-12:06

    And I've known some hilarious givers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:06-12:12

    They're like, and like giving to them, it's like they're on the inside of the world's greatest practical joke.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:12-12:13

    Like, this is awesome!

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:14-12:15

    And they're like, right Aaron?

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:15-12:19

    We know people that literally give and laugh while they're doing it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:19-12:21

    They're like, give this to the missionaries!

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:21-12:23

    And they're laughing, like holy cow, that's a big check.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:23-12:25

    but they're just laughing the whole time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:25-12:27

    They think it's hysterical.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:27-12:28

    They're cheerful givers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:29-12:33

    And you should give to God that which you can give joyfully.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:33-12:37

    As far as tithing, we don't live under the Old Testament Israel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:38-12:40

    Actually, the Old Testament Israel tithe, that's a whole nother thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:41-12:42

    People think it was 10%, it wasn't.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:42-12:46

    It was 23 and a third percent, because there were three tithes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:46-12:49

    There were the one to the Levites, that was 10%.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:49-12:51

    Then there was one that went for the festivals, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:52-12:53

    That was 10%.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:53-12:59

    three years there was 10% that went for the poor, so it was like, you know, 3 and a third percent a year.

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:59-13:03

    Technically, the tithe in Israel was 23 and a third percent.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:04-13:13

    But we're not Jews living under the Old Testament law, so are we bound by a 10% tithe?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:14-13:20

    No. But I would challenge people with this to say, "Grace, we live under grace.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:20-13:23

    Grace always goes beyond the law every time, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:24-13:30

    So when people say, "Do I have to give 10%?" They're thinking, "Can I get away with giving less?" That's not grace thinking.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:30-13:34

    Grace thinking is, "How can I give more than that?" Grace goes beyond the law, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:34-13:36

    So, but it's between you and the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:37-13:39

    Give as much as you can give joyfully and cheerfully.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:40-13:51

    And listen to I Love to Give because there's so much motivation to give because of the way God gives back to you, because of the way it blesses people, interrupts in a praise of Thanksgiving.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:51-13:55

    There's so much in there about why we should be rightly motivated.

    Mark Ort:

    13:57-14:01

    Let me just take this question a little bit farther here.

    Mark Ort:

    14:01-14:03

    And you don't need to spend a lot of time on this.

    Mark Ort:

    14:03-14:06

    But I was thinking about this a little bit as I looked at the questions.

    Mark Ort:

    14:07-14:25

    What would you say to the person that wants to give more and wants to give hilariously, but they've fallen into circumstances where they're under an avalanche of bills, or something has happened in their life where right now is not a real good time for them to do that.

    Mark Ort:

    14:27-14:39

    Would you say, continue tithing and let the bills build up or let's go with our obligations and we'll get back, what do you think about that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:39-14:42

    Somebody like that I would advise to get some financial counseling.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:42-14:50

    I would say you need to talk to somebody to get a plan together because if your bills that piled up in the scenario that you painted, then you might need some coaching.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:51-15:04

    You might need a Christian financial counselor to come alongside and say, "Look, we need to get your obligations done, but not at the expense of, I'm not going to worship by giving to God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:04-15:11

    You can't just, I'm not going to worship you until I get my bills paid." I think you need a counselor to help you get that all sorted out.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:11-15:13

    Let's get a plan together.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:13-15:19

    Again, I think if you're in a state where the bills are piled up, maybe it's because you haven't really had a plan.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:21-15:28

    That might require things like looking at getting a different job or another part-time job or whatever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:28-15:33

    So, I think you need to get some counseling to get a solid plan together.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:33-15:34

    I don't think it should

    Mark Ort:

    15:34-15:34

    be one or the other.

    Mark Ort:

    15:35-15:35

    Good.

    Mark Ort:

    15:37-15:43

    We'll do one more question off of the pre-submitted questions, and then we'll pass the mic for for another live one, how's that sound?

    Mark Ort:

    15:44-15:50

    Okay, God is always referred to as he and father.

    Mark Ort:

    15:51-15:58

    Does this gender pronoun and title refer to a physical characteristic of God, of his relationship with us?

    Mark Ort:

    15:59-16:05

    That is if the Holy Spirit is God, should we refer to it, Holy Spirit, as he?

    Mark Ort:

    16:06-16:15

    Typically we don't assign gender pronouns to spirits in the English language unless we are able to assign the spirit to a person's gender.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:15-16:19

    All right, I'm gonna look at my notes here because I wanna make sure I cover all of these things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:22-16:24

    Succinctly, but I don't wanna miss any of the topics.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:25-16:28

    Why do we refer to God as he?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:28-16:30

    Because that's how he revealed himself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:31-16:32

    That's just how he revealed himself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:32-16:42

    I don't think God is male or female in the way that we, We think of male and female based on physical characteristics and genetics and things like that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:42-16:44

    I don't think God...

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:44-16:51

    Jesus said He's God of spirit, He's invisible, but He's revealed Himself in the masculine form.

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:52-17:00

    And I don't think there's any more clear understanding of that as when Jesus taught us to pray to our heavenly Father.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:01-17:16

    Jesus didn't say, "Pray to your heavenly mother, your heavenly aunt, or your heavenly father/mother," or one of these hybrid pronouns that we use, like "shim" or whatever, Jesus said He is a heavenly Father.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:16-17:20

    So because that's what Jesus said, I'm going to go with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:20-17:22

    Does anybody have something that can trump what Jesus said?

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:23-17:29

    So God has never revealed as manifesting Himself or expressing Himself as being feminine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:30-17:39

    There's times in the Bible where God says, "Like a mother, I carried you." but he's not saying, "I am a mother," he's just saying how nurturing he was.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:40-17:41

    Jesus called him Father.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:41-17:43

    As far as the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is a person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:45-17:47

    The Holy Spirit is clearly a person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:47-17:50

    The Holy Spirit is not like Star Wars, like the Force.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:51-17:53

    The Holy Spirit is a person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:53-17:57

    We know he's a person because he can be lied to.

    Pastor Jeff:

    17:57-18:01

    Acts 5, remember Ananias and Sapphira, they lied to the Holy Spirit.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:01-18:04

    You can't lie to a thing, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:04-18:05

    You can only lie to a person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:06-18:09

    And the Holy Spirit can be grieved, Ephesians 4:30.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:10-18:13

    You can't grieve a thing, but you can grieve a person.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:15-18:29

    And because God the Father is known as in the masculine, he's our Father, Jesus, obviously, a man, Holy Spirit, third member of the Trinity, I think he is the most appropriate pronoun for the Holy Spirit.

    Mark Ort:

    18:30-18:31

    Good, thank

    18:31-18:31

    you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:32-18:36

    Let's do the next one before you pass the mic because it goes with the same gender

    Mark Ort:

    18:36-18:37

    issue thing.

    Mark Ort:

    18:38-18:38

    Yeah, let's do it.

    Mark Ort:

    18:40-18:45

    Question, why does God forbid women to be an elder or hold some authority in the church?

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:45-18:50

    All right, let's look at the text here because this is the text that people get hung up on.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:51-18:56

    1 Timothy 2, verses 12 through 14.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:57-19:00

    This is what Paul, old preacher, I want to give a praise to Timothy, a young preacher.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:00-19:05

    He says, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:06-19:12

    Rather, she is to remain quiet." And do you know the number one objection I've heard to that verse every time?

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:13-19:14

    That was a cultural thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:15-19:21

    The reason that women didn't speak in those days in the church or be pastors in the church, it's a cultural thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:23-19:24

    But look at the next statement.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:26-19:28

    Adam was formed first, then Eve.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:28-19:29

    Does that sound cultural?

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:30-19:31

    That sounds theological.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:32-19:37

    And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:38-19:49

    OK, so you have to see clearly from the text that Paul's reason, whether you agree with it or not, you have to see that his reason is theological, not cultural.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:50-19:53

    He's basing it on order of creation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:53-19:56

    He's also basing it on the fall.

    Pastor Jeff:

    19:57-20:02

    So why are women not in position of elder or pastor?

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:03-20:07

    I would just say, that's just the way God designed it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:08-20:11

    God's all about an authority structure.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:12-20:18

    And in the same way, the man is charged with being the authority in the home.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:18-20:20

    Why is man the authority in the home?

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:21-20:22

    Because that's how God ordained him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:23-20:39

    Now, I think when we hear this, I think a lot of people, when they hear the word "authority," they think authority is, "I'm in charge, I'm the boss, you do what I say." That's not the biblical understanding of authority whatsoever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:41-21:10

    What is authority? The definition I came up with, authority is, "God has called me to make decisions to bless and protect those under my care." authority, right? So it's not, authority is not, I'm making decisions about what's best for me. Authority is, I need to make decisions about what's best for the people under my care, right? That's what you do in your home. Don't you make decisions based on what's best for Kristen and for your kids?

    Mark Ort:

    21:10-21:11

    Absolutely. Yeah,

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:11-21:15

    that's authority. Authority is, you do what I say. That's not authority.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:16-21:34

    Authority has the idea of, I've been entrusted to bless and protect a group of people, and that's just what God said in his Word, is the position is to be held, the role of elder, pastor, shepherd, bishop, all the same term, is to be held by a man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:34-21:53

    And he goes on to tell Timothy that in 1 Timothy chapter 3. But I want to say a couple other things about that. You know, we encourage women to be involved in every aspect of ministry that the Scripture permits, and the only one that I can see biblically that a woman is not to be in that role as that of a pastor or elder.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:53-21:54

    That's the only one I see biblically.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:55-22:01

    So if the idea is, oh, at that church, it's just the men are in charge and just run everything.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:01-22:04

    We have a lot of female leaders at this church, actually, don't we, Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:04-22:12

    We have Crin's head of our hospitality ministry, Julie Crin's head of our hospitality ministry, our leader of our children's ministry is Mandy.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:13-22:18

    And when we were making decisions as far as expansion and remodeling and all of those things.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:18-22:23

    Interestingly, we had all of these women leaders in the room to discuss making these plans.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:24-22:36

    So the idea that when we just have a guy that calls all the shots and all of the women in the church are just told to shut up and mind their own business, that's not really how it plays out here at Harvest, is it?

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:37-22:43

    There are women leaders involved in a lot of the decision-making, but the restriction is clear.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:44-22:50

    Paul says he doesn't permit a woman the exercise of authority over a man, and that's in that pastoral role.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:50-23:01

    The other thing I find interesting about that is, you go back to the Garden of Eden, God told Adam and Eve, "You can eat off every tree except one." Remember that story? Every tree except one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:02-23:07

    And then the enemy shows up, and what does the enemy convince Eve of?

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:08-23:09

    God's being restrictive.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:11-23:26

    "You can't eat off any of the trees in the garden." and Eve was like, "No, we can't eat off..." He said, "Don't touch this one." And Satan got Eve to think that God was restrictive because he did not allow them to eat off of one tree.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:27-23:29

    And I think there's a sense in which that happens today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:30-23:33

    I know this might sound offensive, but that horse has left the barn.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:33-23:36

    Women can look at all the roles in the church that they can serve.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:38-23:41

    Children's ministry, and worship, and finance, and AV ministry.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:41-23:45

    There's all these roles in which you can serve, except for the role of being a pastor.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:46-23:47

    They're like, that's the one that I want.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:48-23:50

    You're so restrictive that I can't do that one thing in the church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:51-23:52

    That's just God's design.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:53-23:58

    And I would just say take it up with him, but his word's really clear on the matter.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:59-24:01

    You're saying that men and women aren't equal?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:01-24:05

    No, I believe men and women are equal, but equal does not mean the same, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:06-24:07

    Equal does not mean the same.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:07-24:08

    God has given us different roles.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:10-24:15

    I'm so glad Aaron and I are equal, but I'm more glad that we're not the same, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:16-24:17

    So that's all I'm gonna say about it.

    Mark Ort:

    24:18-24:19

    Excellent, all right, who has a live question?

    Questioner 1:

    24:20-24:24

    Can you help me understand the verse, faith without works is dead?

    Questioner 1:

    24:24-24:30

    Doesn't that contradict what we're taught to believe that we're justified through faith and not works, as it says in Romans?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:31-24:33

    Right on, that is a really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:34-24:41

    That is a really good question, Will, and did you know the book of James was almost not included in the Bible over that verse, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:42-24:43

    They almost did not include it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:44-24:45

    Faith without works is dead.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:46-24:51

    And the reason it was almost not included is the same reason that you gave.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:51-24:52

    People thought, well, that contradiction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:52-24:55

    We are saved apart from good works.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:55-24:59

    Therefore, how can you say faith without works is dead?

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:59-25:01

    It's a cart before the horse kind of thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:02-25:14

    And what James is saying is that if you truly have faith, and this is his point, if you truly have faith, it results in good works. True faith results in good works.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:15-25:22

    He's not saying that if you have works, that proves that you have faith, because people are working all the time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:22-25:24

    There's all kinds of people doing works that aren't saved.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:25-25:39

    Jesus said that, right? Matthew 7, "Many appeared before me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not cast out many demons in your name, and prophesy in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'" Jesus will say, "Depart from me, I never knew you." So there's people that can do works that don't have faith.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:41-25:42

    That's not the point James is making.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:42-25:47

    James is saying, if you truly have faith, then it will always result in good work.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:47-25:54

    He said, show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:54-25:57

    That's the proof that my faith is genuine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:57-25:59

    It's like smoke and fire, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:59-26:05

    Like the smoke comes from the result of the fire being real.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:05-26:08

    James is saying, if your fire is real, If your faith is real, it's always going to result in smoke.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:09-26:15

    So, good works are not the means of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:17-26:20

    James' point is they are the evidence of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:21-26:33

    So the Christian that's like, "Yeah, I'm saved, but I'm not involved in any aspect of ministry whatsoever." James would say, "Are you really saved?" How could you be saved, be transformed, regenerated?

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:33-26:34

    God's Holy Spirit lives within you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:35-26:40

    You live in the fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:40-26:51

    You live by the power of the Holy Spirit, and you have no function whatsoever to serve the Lord." James would say, "That sounds a little fishy." He'd say, "No, your works do not save.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:51-26:53

    You are saved by grace.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:53-27:09

    But when you are saved by grace, you are transformed, and not only do you receive the fruit of the Holy Spirit, you receive a gift from the Holy Spirit that you already used to edify the church." Again, works is not the means of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:10-27:14

    James's point is works are the evidence of salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:14-27:15

    Does that make sense, Will?

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:16-27:17

    You wanna add to that, Mark?

    Mark Ort:

    27:17-27:25

    Yeah, one thing that helped me through this passage, and this is in James chapter two, and the verse that you mentioned was in 17.

    Mark Ort:

    27:26-27:29

    Even so, faith, if it has no works, is dead being by itself.

    Mark Ort:

    27:29-27:36

    If you go further down into verse 22 and 24, James uses the phrase, you see.

    Mark Ort:

    27:37-27:41

    He says, you see that faith was working with his works.

    Mark Ort:

    27:42-27:45

    And as a result of the works, faith was perfected.

    Mark Ort:

    27:45-27:51

    And then in verse 24, it says, you see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

    Mark Ort:

    27:52-27:56

    And looking at that passage, it looks like a contradiction of Romans.

    Mark Ort:

    27:56-28:03

    But the you see part on there helps me out because who sees our faith clearly?

    Mark Ort:

    28:03-28:04

    God sees that, right?

    Mark Ort:

    28:05-28:10

    But who can't see our faith unless we're doing good works, other people.

    Mark Ort:

    28:10-28:17

    So I think that the two words you see is really helpful, at least for me in that passage.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:17-28:18

    Yeah, that makes sense.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:18-28:21

    Yeah, only God knows where you truly are in relation to him.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:22-28:25

    James's point is true faith always results in good works.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:26-28:30

    You know, there's no such thing as a Christian called to be a bench warmer, you know.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:31-28:32

    that might've been me in little league.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:33-28:37

    Like we have a position for you, Jeff, right there on the bench.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:38-28:38

    Really?

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:39-28:41

    Yeah, eating oranges and riding the pine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:42-28:43

    And some people think that's what God does.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:43-28:45

    He hasn't really called me in anything, but that's not true biblically.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:46-28:50

    God has called and equipped every true believer for the work of the ministry, not for salvation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:51-28:56

    You know, that's our mission as Christians, as redeemed people is to be ambassadors for Christ.

    Mark Ort:

    28:57-28:57

    Excellent.

    Mark Ort:

    28:58-29:04

    Okay, now this question that's coming up, how long have I been doing this with you?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:05-29:06

    You've been a long time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:07-29:09

    Yeah, this is number 10, all right.

    Mark Ort:

    29:10-29:15

    Okay, this next question is by far the best question in my opinion that we've ever had.

    Mark Ort:

    29:15-29:17

    And it's from Evan.

    Mark Ort:

    29:18-29:20

    Evan, perk up buddy, here's your question.

    Mark Ort:

    29:20-29:32

    It says, "If we came from Adam and Eve, "shouldn't we all have the same last name "and be from the same family?" That is a great question and the answer is yes, we should all be Millers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:32-29:35

    Now I know some people are like that's pretty self-centered, but hear me out.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:36-29:45

    Hear me out. How many times in my life you think people have asked me to spell my last name? Zero. I bet you you've had people ask how to spell your last name.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:45-29:46

    It's got three letters.

    Mark Ort:

    29:46-29:48

    Every time. Every time.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:48-29:51

    I don't even wait.

    Mark Ort:

    29:51-29:53

    I don't even wait for them anymore. I just I just spell it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:54-30:15

    See? I have twice as many letters in my name and I have never had people ask. So when people find out I'm a pastor and they ask me like what my last name is I mess with them a little bit. I always say Miller spelled like the beer and then they're like we get we get our jollies in where we can. That's a great question Evan. That's a great question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:16-30:31

    But here's something a lot of people don't realize this. The fact is I mean for those of you who don't know Evan is my nephew so we are blood but did you You know, the Bible says, literally, not even technically, literally, everyone is related.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:32-30:34

    Every single person on the planet...

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:34-30:54

    So when you're questioned, "Shouldn't we all be the same family?" The answer is, "Yeah, we are the same family." Acts 17.26, "And He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place." Technically, we are all in the same family.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:54-30:59

    Don't think about that too hard, but the truth is if you're married, you are married to a relative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:59-31:01

    Just gonna let that settle in for a minute.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:02-31:03

    But it's true.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:03-31:13

    If the Bible's true, and I believe it is, and here again in Acts 17, God made from one man, that's Adam, every nation of mankind.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:14-31:15

    We all came from the same parents, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:16-31:20

    And the Bible says Eve, what is it, Genesis, what, 320?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:20-31:21

    Eve is the mother of the living.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:22-31:23

    So yeah.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:23-31:24

    Oh, there it is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:24-31:27

    The man called his wife's name Eve because she was the mother of all living.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:28-31:29

    So yeah, we are all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:30-31:31

    So why don't we all have the same last name?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:33-31:39

    Well, because if everybody's last name was Miller, and I'm like, Evan Miller is in a lot of trouble today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:39-31:41

    Maybe I'm not talking about you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:41-31:43

    Maybe I'm talking about the guy we know as Evan Gates.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:44-31:44

    Isn't he here?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:45-31:46

    Oh, he left.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:46-31:47

    Now he's in trouble.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:47-31:49

    See, we'd have two Evan Millers right here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:51-31:53

    So last names are just like a label, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:55-31:57

    So we are in the same family though.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:57-31:58

    Everybody is in the same family.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:00-32:04

    Different, when we talk about different races, there's not different races.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:04-32:06

    There's one race, there's the human race.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:06-32:12

    We might have different shades of skin color, whatever, but we're all in the same family, all in the same blood.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:13-32:15

    One man, don't some translations say one blood?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:16-32:17

    I believe so. - In Acts 17.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:17-32:19

    So, okay, what do we got?

    Mark Ort:

    32:19-32:22

    How do we guard ourselves against legalism?

    Mark Ort:

    32:22-32:32

    That is, if I abstain from drinking, how do I guard against pressing others not to drink or get self-righteous or prideful in my abstinence?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:32-32:40

    That is a seriously good question because when we have personal convictions about things, it's so easy for that to become legalism, isn't it, Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:41-32:45

    I have a conviction that I, we'll take this one for example, just use that one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:45-32:48

    I have a conviction, I don't think Christians should touch alcohol.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:48-32:52

    That's my conviction, and it's so hard for me to not enforce that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:53-32:54

    And that's what legalism is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:54-32:59

    I think whoever wrote this question, I think they're one step ahead of the game in that they're recognizing it, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:59-33:05

    Because I know a lot of people that are just like pounding their beliefs and convictions on people, not even thinking about legalism.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:06-33:16

    But legalism, just to define that, it's when you think that doing things or not doing things are what make you spiritual, make you holy.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:17-33:19

    If I do this, God's happy with me.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:19-33:20

    If I don't do this, God's happy with me.

    Mark Ort:

    33:22-33:22

    Works-based.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:23-33:24

    Yeah, it's all works-based, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:25-33:28

    Then we get back to the opposite of what you were talking about, Will, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:29-33:35

    You think that God's only happy with me when I keep the rules, and then we make these rules, and then we try to enforce these rules.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:35-33:40

    That's legalism, and the Bible speaks so much about that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:40-33:46

    My suggestion, my advice, as the person that abstains from drinking, First, I want you to understand that's a personal conviction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:47-33:49

    The Bible doesn't forbid drinking.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:49-33:53

    The Bible does warn against drunkenness, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:54-33:57

    But the Bible doesn't say never to drink.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:57-34:00

    If you choose to not touch alcohol, good for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:00-34:01

    That's your conviction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:01-34:01

    Awesome.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:02-34:03

    If you're like, you know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:03-34:06

    Once in a while, I have a beer or a glass of wine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:06-34:07

    Never gets out of control.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:08-34:10

    Once in a while, I'll just-- with my wife, we'll sit down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:11-34:11

    Good for you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:12-34:13

    The problem is when you start enforcing that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:14-34:17

    So how do I guard against pressing others?

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:17-34:20

    I would say, again, keep in mind it's a conviction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:20-34:24

    The other thing is, where other people land on that conviction really is your business.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:25-34:30

    If they ask you, you can tell them, "Here's why I choose not to drink." This is why I choose.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:31-34:33

    I'm just telling you, here's why I choose not to drink.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:33-34:35

    What you do with that's between you and the Lord.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:36-34:40

    It's not my business. Self-righteous or prideful in my absence.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:40-34:44

    Your righteousness comes from Christ alone, through His work on the cross.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:44-34:47

    Okay? You do nothing to make God happy with you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:48-34:54

    God loves you infinitely because of who you are in Christ, not based on your performance.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:55-34:59

    Your salvation is not performance-based by any stretch of imagination.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:59-35:15

    So that's where being really familiar with the gospel and in God's Word keeps your focus on, "My righteousness is from Christ, not my performance." So I think that reminder there, God's not happy with me because I don't drink.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:16-35:16

    Yeah,

    Mark Ort:

    35:16-35:31

    whenever I read through the Gospels and I see things that are mentioned about the Pharisees and how Jesus would look at the Pharisees with disgust because of their legalistic attitude.

    Mark Ort:

    35:31-35:40

    And then I look at myself and I'm like, "I'm just like them." And so that kind of keeps me grounded, I guess.

    Mark Ort:

    35:40-35:40

    We

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:40-35:41

    can all do that.

    Mark Ort:

    35:42-35:42

    Exactly.

    Mark Ort:

    35:42-35:42

    We can all

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:42-35:43

    do that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:43-35:47

    We can judge people for these superficial reasons.

    Mark Ort:

    35:48-35:52

    And when we remember that Jesus looks upon that as abomination, I guess.

    Mark Ort:

    35:53-35:55

    It makes him want to vomit.

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:55-36:06

    It is interesting how Jesus was so compassionate and welcoming to sinners and tax collectors and prostitutes, but it was the ultra religious people that he was constantly slamming.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:07-36:12

    He's like, "You guys don't even know the Bible, do you?" Like, "Whew." Like, serious business.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:13-36:17

    Okay. (laughs) Where did Cain get his wife?

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:17-36:17

    All right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:18-36:20

    We already talked about everyone came from one man, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:20-36:21

    Acts 17, 26.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:21-36:23

    He's Eve's mother of all the living.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:23-36:27

    Genesis 5, 4 tells us where Cain got his wife.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:28-36:34

    It says, "The days of Adam after he fathered Seth for 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:35-36:37

    I didn't see the part where Cain got his wife.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:37-36:39

    Well, Cain married his sister.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:39-36:56

    Now I know that sounds so gross and weird to us, but if the Bible's true, and I believe that is, if we all came from the same parents, if Eve is the mother of all the living, if everyone came from one man, Acts 17.26, Cain married his sister.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:56-37:02

    You're like, "Wait, doesn't the Bible forbid that?" Well, no restrictions were put on marrying close relatives until the Old Testament law.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:03-37:10

    And I believe that was for genetic reasons because close relatives having children have a higher risk of birth defects.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:11-37:17

    The chromosome problems not canceled out because of the genetics being so close.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:17-37:21

    When you marry distant relatives, you don't have the genetic problems.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:22-37:25

    So I believe that that's why that was introduced to the Old Testament law.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:25-37:31

    I know in our culture it seems very strange, but if the Bible's true, Kate would have married a sister.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:31-37:32

    Yeah, do the next one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:33-37:33

    At what

    Mark Ort:

    37:33-37:37

    point during a human's development is it issued a soul?

    Mark Ort:

    37:38-37:42

    At conception, sometimes while in the womb, or at the baby's first breath?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:43-37:46

    I believe 100% that it is at conception.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:47-37:55

    Biblically, Luke 141, it says when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, Remember, Elizabeth was Mary's relative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:55-37:56

    She was pregnant.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:57-38:04

    And it says, "The baby leaped in her womb." And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:05-38:13

    If that was just a blob of mindless tissue, a blob of mindless tissue doesn't leap for joy, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:13-38:23

    But apparently, John the Baptist, even in the womb, leapt for joy at the coming of God the flesh while he was still in utero.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:23-38:40

    And also, Psalm 139, verse 13, "You formed my inward parts, you knitted me together in my mother's womb." You know, the psalmist is very poetically pointing out that God knew him while he was forming inside his mother.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:41-38:59

    And he didn't say, "You knew me after I gave birth and started crying and I had my first breath, that's when you knew me." He says, "God, you knew me while you were putting me together." And I like that knitting terminology, it's so intricate and creative.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:59-39:01

    God was putting you together.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:01-39:08

    He says, "God, you knew me while you were putting me together." So I believe that that soul comes at conception.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:08-39:10

    We did have one more question come in today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:11-39:15

    And it's, "When do you think Jesus will come back?" And the answer is soon.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:15-39:23

    The answer is soon, because Jesus said, "Behold, I'm coming soon." And our series in Revelation is called "Coming Soon," because that's what Jesus said.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:24-39:27

    And that means we always have to be ready.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:28-39:30

    It could be today, it could be tomorrow.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:31-39:38

    Jesus himself said he didn't know the time, so I'm not going to be presumptuous and even taking a swing at it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:38-39:40

    He just said soon, so I'll go with that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:41-39:42

    Would you pray for us, Mark?

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:42-39:42

    Sounds good,

    Mark Ort:

    39:42-39:43

    sure.

    Mark Ort:

    39:44-39:50

    Heavenly Father, thank you so much for allowing us to come here and sing praises to you earlier.

    Mark Ort:

    39:50-40:02

    And Lord, just to jump into your word a little and answer some questions and just fellowship with our friends and like-minded believers.

    Mark Ort:

    40:02-40:04

    Lord, you've been so good to us.

    Mark Ort:

    40:05-40:09

    2018 may or may not have been a good year for some of us here.

    Mark Ort:

    40:10-40:14

    And we look forward with anticipation for the coming year.

    Mark Ort:

    40:15-40:16

    Lord, help us to be ready.

    Mark Ort:

    40:17-40:21

    Help us to be people who are ready to go out and do your work.

    Mark Ort:

    40:23-40:25

    Help us to be people who are generous.

    Mark Ort:

    40:26-40:35

    Lord, help us to be people who are eager to get into your word and study and grow closer to you, Lord.

    Mark Ort:

    40:36-40:48

    Thank you so much just for being our God, for sending your one and only son all those years ago on a date that we don't know, but we thank you for that.

    Mark Ort:

    40:49-41:03

    That baby, that child that grew up and was eventually beaten and spat upon and a crown of thorns crushed into his head bled and died for us.

    Mark Ort:

    41:03-41:26

    And Lord, help us to feel the weight of that and to just to understand exactly what he did for us, shedding his own blood so that we might become redeemed and saved and delivered from the sin that will damn us to hell.

    Mark Ort:

    41:27-41:29

    Now, Lord, we can spend eternity in heaven with you.

    Mark Ort:

    41:30-41:34

    And we thank you for that great promise and that great hope.

    Mark Ort:

    41:35-41:37

    Thank you for your great love for us in doing that, Lord.

    Mark Ort:

    41:38-41:40

    And we pray these things in your strong name, amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):

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Don't Myth Christmas - Part 2

Christmas POP QUIZ:

  1. The "Wise Men" were at the manger scene when Jesus was born. T   |   F
  2. The Bible says there were three Wise Men. T   |   F
  3. The Bible says the Wise Men rode on camels. T   |   F
  4. The Wise Men were kings. T   |   F
  5. The Wise Men were Oriental and Ethiopian. T   |   F

Intro:

  • WISE MEN:
  • CHIEF PRIESTS:
  • HEROD:

Which Character Are You? (Matt 2:1-16)

  1. Herod: I'm King of my Life, not Jesus.
  2. Chief Priests: The King is born? Meh .
  3. Wise Men: I will Worship the king.

3 Things to Worship Like the Wise Men:

  1. Pursue Him
  2. Humble yourself before Him
  3. Give to Him

Sermon Notes (PDF): BLANK
Hint:
Highlight blanks above for answers!

  • 01:12-01:27

    The title of our message tonight is "Don't Myth Christmas, Part 2." And I thought, what's a more fun way to start the message than with a Christmas pop quiz?

    01:28-01:33

    You're like, "Oh, man, we're done with school." Well, this is for fun.

    01:34-01:42

    And specifically, this pop quiz circles around the wise men we'll be talking about tonight.

    01:42-01:44

    And we'll make it even easier for you.

    01:44-01:45

    These are all true and false.

    01:47-01:49

    So you've got a 50/50 chance on all of them.

    01:50-01:51

    Alright, you ready?

    01:51-01:55

    Number one, the wise men were at the manger scene when Jesus was born.

    01:57-01:59

    No, no, no, you're supposed to write down your answer.

    02:01-02:02

    Do not look at your neighbor's paper.

    02:05-02:06

    Did you do that in school?

    02:06-02:07

    That would have been really cool.

    02:09-02:13

    Alright, from now on, write them down, and we'll check your answers.

    02:13-02:14

    Number two.

    02:16-02:18

    You could have been more clear, Pastor Jeff.

    02:18-02:19

    Yes, I certainly could have.

    02:20-02:22

    The Bible says there were three wise men.

    02:22-02:24

    Write down your answer, true or false.

    02:26-02:27

    Or shout it out either way.

    02:30-02:30

    (laughing)

    02:34-02:37

    Number three, the Bible says the wise men rode on camels.

    02:38-02:40

    Write it down, shout it out.

    02:43-02:46

    Make it a multiple choice question, whatever you want at this point.

    02:46-02:48

    Number four, the wise men were kings.

    02:49-02:50

    True or false?

    02:53-02:54

    That was my son.

    02:59-03:00

    I knew that.

    03:01-03:09

    I was hoping nobody else noticed, but since we're just shouting everything out, number five, the wise men were Oriental and Ethiopian.

    03:10-03:11

    Shout it out.

    03:12-03:12

    False.

    03:13-03:14

    (laughs)

    03:14-03:22

    The answer to all of these questions, which I imagine going much better in my head and during rehearsal when nobody was in here, the answer to all of these questions is false.

    03:23-03:25

    Like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Pastor Jeff.

    03:25-03:26

    Hang on a second.

    03:28-03:31

    You know, number two, the Bible says there were three wise men.

    03:31-03:35

    Now, I thought that we knew their names, right?

    03:35-03:37

    Gaspar and Melchior and Balthazar.

    03:38-03:41

    Some people say, well, they represented Ham, Shem and Japheth.

    03:42-03:43

    Well, the Bible doesn't give the number.

    03:45-03:47

    We don't really know how many there were.

    03:49-03:50

    Like, well, hang on a second.

    03:50-03:52

    You know, number four, you said the wise men were kings.

    03:52-03:55

    Remember that song, "We Three Kings of Orion Are"?

    03:56-03:56

    Remember that song?

    03:57-03:59

    Remember good King Wenceslaus?

    04:02-04:03

    That's not in the Bible.

    04:05-04:06

    It's just not.

    04:07-04:10

    And that's sort of the point we're trying to drive home.

    04:12-04:24

    With the sermons called "Don't Myth Christmas." Because there is not a lot of material to draw from in the Bible regarding the birth of Christ, right?

    04:24-04:30

    The majority of the material is about His life and His teaching and His death and His resurrection and His second coming.

    04:31-04:36

    Very little material in the Bible about the actual birth of Christ.

    04:37-04:47

    And like a lot of true stories, over time, some myths get sprinkled in and those myths get taught as fact.

    04:48-04:59

    As I said, we're going to be talking about the wise men today, and I would put them somewhere We are near the top of the list of true stories that have had myths added to them.

    05:00-05:11

    Someone has said that much of what we think we know about the wise men comes from pictures on the front of Christmas cards than it does in the Bible.

    05:12-05:13

    And that's a true statement.

    05:14-05:22

    So, they're real people, but we don't want to myth Christmas, so we're going to get back to the source material.

    05:22-05:52

    Matthew 2. While you're turning to Matthew 2, I want to sort of introduce the characters because that's going to help us. We're going to go through this text rather quickly this evening. But to help us understand the text, I want to introduce the characters a little bit. We're going to be talking about the wise men. Who were these guys? Well, despite what you've seen at almost every nativity scene, they were not at the manger scene when Jesus was born. In fact, we're going to see that in verse 11.

    05:53-05:57

    When they showed up, apparently the family was settled in the house.

    05:58-06:13

    Right? And you're also going to see from the text that they were not there at the moment that Jesus was born. So who were they? They were Gentile priests that were associated with the people called the Medes, from the Medo-Persian Empire.

    06:14-06:20

    And they were known for being advisors to the king.

    06:20-06:22

    That's why they were called wise men.

    06:24-06:30

    And their beliefs were sort of a hybrid of astrology and astronomy.

    06:30-06:33

    It was sort of a hybrid of science and superstition.

    06:34-06:37

    And part of their job was to choose kings.

    06:38-06:43

    But at this particular point in history, they had no king.

    06:44-06:50

    But they wanted to be a major force in the east like the Romans were in the west.

    06:50-06:54

    So they were anxious themselves to find a king.

    06:56-07:13

    Well, due to Israel's exile, when the Jews were scattered and living among the Babylonians and the Medes and the Persians, these foreign people came to know a lot about Israel and Israel's scriptures, and the hope of the coming Messiah.

    07:14-07:23

    These foreign people groups came to know a lot about Israel because of their contact with Jewish people, especially during Daniel's day.

    07:25-07:27

    So that's a little bit about the wise men. Hold that thought.

    07:27-07:31

    We're going to talk about the chief priests and the scribes quickly.

    07:31-07:33

    They were the religious elite among the Jews.

    07:34-07:36

    They knew their scriptures backwards and forwards.

    07:36-07:38

    You're going to see that here in the text.

    07:38-07:41

    But something else to keep in mind is about Israel.

    07:42-07:45

    During this time of history, it was under Roman occupation.

    07:45-07:49

    The chief priests and the scribes basically ruled over Israel. Okay?

    07:51-07:58

    And the third secondary character that we need to talk about in this story is Herod.

    07:59-08:01

    Now Herod, he's an interesting guy.

    08:03-08:09

    Because he's the same guy who built a temple to God, but he killed babies.

    08:10-08:16

    He was known to give very generously to people he didn't know, but he would murder his own family members.

    08:18-08:29

    This man who was called the "King of the Jews" - we'll talk about that in a minute - he was completely paranoid, and he committed terrible acts of murder.

    08:30-08:33

    And he's an interesting study sometime, if you want to dig a little deeper.

    08:35-08:38

    History tells us Herod murdered his wife.

    08:40-08:42

    Herod murdered her mother.

    08:44-08:46

    Herod murdered three of his sons.

    08:47-08:50

    He and his brother-in-law drowned. That was a crazy story.

    08:51-08:56

    His uncle, his wife's grandfather, followers, soldiers, friends.

    08:58-08:59

    He was paranoid.

    09:00-09:03

    And if he thought you might be a problem, he would have you eliminated.

    09:04-09:07

    In fact, here's how crazy this guy was.

    09:08-09:17

    He had it arranged so that when he died, immediately upon his death, several prominent men in the community were executed.

    09:17-09:18

    Do you know why?

    09:19-09:23

    He wanted people to be sad when he died, but he knew they weren't going to be sad for him.

    09:24-09:33

    So at least if they were crying for somebody else, There was crying happening while he died.

    09:35-09:36

    That's the kind of person he was.

    09:37-09:41

    Caesar Augustus said it was safer to be Herod's pig than to be Herod's son.

    09:42-09:51

    Alright, so with that in mind with these characters, don't myth Christmas, let's see what the text actually says about these wise men.

    09:51-10:06

    Matthew 2 says, "Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, "Behold, wise men from the east came to Jerusalem, saying, 'Where is he who has been born King of the Jews?

    10:06-10:11

    For we saw his star when it rose, and have come to worship him.'" Stop right there.

    10:12-10:17

    The verb tense, when it says they were asking where the King of the Jews was born, it's continual.

    10:17-10:18

    It means they kept asking.

    10:18-10:20

    They were going around Jerusalem.

    10:20-10:22

    "Hey, where was the King of the Jews born?

    10:22-10:23

    Where was the King of the Jews born?

    10:23-10:25

    We want to find the King of the Jews.

    10:25-10:39

    Where was the King of the Jews born?" Now based on the little bit that I told you about Herod, when he caught wind that some dignitaries from another land came looking for the King of the Jews, how do you think he responded to that?

    10:40-10:46

    Do you think he was like, "Oh, that's interesting." The King of the Jews was his title.

    10:49-10:59

    But notice in verse 2, they said, "We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship Him." What was this star?

    11:01-11:26

    Well, some people say, "Well, the star was Jupiter, lit up in the sky, it just worked out that way on the calendar." Some people say it was a comet or a meteor, and literally, the word just means "bright light." It could be translated "lightning." Like, "We saw His flash of lightning, have come to worship. What in the world was it?

    11:28-11:48

    Well, I believe, if you look at Luke 2, verse 9, the Bible tells us, it's a familiar story, but when the angels showed up to give the announcement to the shepherds about the birth of the Messiah, the glory of the Lord radiated around the angels, right?

    11:48-11:55

    You see that a lot in Scripture, the Shekinah glory, the light of the Lord? Think of Jesus' transfiguration.

    11:57-12:04

    Well, I believe that that was the light that these magi saw, that these wise men saw.

    12:05-12:07

    But here's something that I had to unlearn.

    12:07-12:10

    You talk about "Don't Myth Christmas." Here's something that I always thought.

    12:11-12:14

    And confess this if you thought the same.

    12:14-12:15

    You were awfully eager to shout out earlier.

    12:18-12:30

    So if you're in this boat with me, When I was a kid, I had this idea that that star that they followed was like a laser pointer and a cat.

    12:30-12:35

    I had this idea that God was like, okay, now come here.

    12:36-12:37

    All right, now come here.

    12:38-12:38

    All right, you're getting closer.

    12:38-12:39

    Now come here.

    12:40-12:40

    Now come here.

    12:40-12:49

    And I had this idea that the magi were like walking country to country, like following this light, like a cat following a laser pointer.

    12:50-12:56

    And you do a little studying here, you find that that's not exactly how that went down.

    12:58-13:08

    They saw the light, this flash of light, this radiance of God's glory, and they traveled to Jerusalem to investigate.

    13:09-13:11

    Now the question I had was, "Wait a second.

    13:12-13:25

    Okay, they knew some things about the Messiah, we know that from their interaction with the Jews during the dispersion, How did they connect that light coming from that direction with the Messiah?

    13:26-13:28

    How did they connect those dots?

    13:30-13:30

    Are you ready for the answer?

    13:33-13:34

    We don't know.

    13:37-13:40

    And Matthew, in writing this, didn't go into detail.

    13:41-13:43

    You know why Matthew didn't go into detail?

    13:43-13:46

    It's because this isn't a story about the wise men.

    13:47-13:48

    This is a story about Jesus Christ.

    13:49-13:54

    So, don't ask that question on Q&A day, because nobody really knows.

    13:56-14:10

    Okay, so they saw the light, and they somehow knew that that was connected to the Messiah of Israel, and they knew that the Messiah was connected to Jerusalem because of the Scriptures, so where better to start?

    14:10-14:13

    Let's go to Jerusalem and see what that light was about.

    14:14-14:15

    Okay, verse 3.

    14:15-14:28

    It says, "When Herod the king heard this," that they were looking to worship the king of the Jews, "When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him." Herod completely lost his mind.

    14:28-14:40

    And when it says he was troubled, the Greek word doesn't mean that he was just nervous, like, "Oh, I'm sorry to hear this." He was shaking.

    14:40-14:43

    Like, he was so agitated and upset.

    14:44-15:06

    He was - a word that we would use is, "He was beside himself." And as you can imagine, again, remembering that list I gave you of Herod's close family members that he killed, when Herod was upset, it's not surprising the Bible says, "All of Jerusalem with him." What's he going to do?

    15:07-15:09

    He's violent and he's unstable.

    15:11-15:21

    Verse 4, "And assembling all the chief priests and the scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.

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    They told him, 'In Bethlehem of Judea.' For so it is written by the prophet, 'And you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah.

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    "For from you shall come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel." So somehow Herod connected the dots.

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    These wise men were asking about the king of the Jews, and did you notice, Herod immediately was asking about where the Christ was going to be born.

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    He knew what was going on here.

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    Like, "Wait a minute, I know who they're looking for." So he assembles the chief priests and the scribes and says, "Hey, what do the Scriptures say about where the Christ is going to be born?" It's an interesting scene. It would be like President Trump calling John MacArthur to ask a Bible 101 question.

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    Verse 7, "Herod summoned the wise men secretly, and ascertained from them what time the star had appeared.

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    And he sent them to Bethlehem, saying, 'Go and search diligently for the child, and when you have found Him, bring me word that I too may come and worship Him." So Herod, again, troubled, hearing that there's people from another land looking for the King of the Jews, and, "Hey, wait a second, I'm the King of the Jews, who are they looking for?" And he finds out, "Okay, here's where they were supposed to be born, we found that out, and now we're trying to figure out when the Christ was supposed to be born." So Herod goes, "Okay, here's the plan.

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    These guys are looking for Him.

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    I'll say, "Oh yeah, I want to worship Him too, so let me know when you find Him." So he sent them off to Bethlehem.

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    I imagine as they were going, they were wondering how in the world they were going to find Him.

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    I mean, Bethlehem was a small town.

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    It wasn't like Shekorah small, but it was a small town.

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    You don't just roll up and say, "Hey, where was the baby born?" Well, God had an answer for that. Look at verse 9.

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    "After listening to the king, they went on their way, and behold, the star that they had seen when it rose went before them.

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    The star showed back up," look at this, "until it came to rest over the place where the child was.

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    And when they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great joy.

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    The glory of the Lord appeared again and literally highlighted Jesus' address." Isn't that awesome?

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    God's like, "Right here! Here's where He is!" Awesome.

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    Look at verse 11.

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    "And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshipped Him.

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    Then opening their treasures, they offered Him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh." Jesus was probably around six months old at this point.

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    At this point, these foreigners showed up to throw what was the weirdest baby shower ever.

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    But look at the gifts they brought.

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    It might seem weird to us, but when you stop and think about the gifts, they were all very significant.

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    First of all, they brought gold.

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    Gold is a gift appropriate for a king.

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    And they knew they were coming and looking for a king.

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    So they brought him gold.

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    Secondly, they brought him frankincense.

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    That was used in Old Testament worship on the altar of incense.

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    It was always burning.

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    And the smoke from the incense represents the prayers of God's people.

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    We talked about that briefly going through Revelation, didn't we?

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    that the incense smoke represents prayers.

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    Certainly much symbolism there concerning Jesus Christ.

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    But by far, the weirdest gift, at first, it appears the weirdest gift is myrrh.

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    Do you know what they used myrrh for?

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    Embalming dead people.

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    It was a spice used for embalming.

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    Now, I don't know what kind of goofy gifts you're going to get for Christmas this year.

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    But could you imagine giving birth to this child, and these people show up, and they say, "Congratulations, we brought you some formaldehyde.

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    Did you keep a gift receipt?" But you see, it's prophetic.

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    Not pathetic, it is prophetic.

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    Because that looks forward to the very reason that baby came.

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    And I know we don't like to think about this at Christmas time, but the reality is that baby came to die.

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    That baby came to suffer and die a horrible death on your behalf and on my behalf.

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    And that myrrh, that gift, was a God-ordained gift, looking forward to the reason He came.

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    Look at verses 12-16.

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    "And being warned in a dream not to return to Herod, they (the magi, the wise men) departed to their own country by another way.

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    And when they departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, and said, 'Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remained there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child to destroy him.' And he rose and took the child and his mother by night and departed to Egypt and remained there until the death of Herod.

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    This was to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet out of Egypt.

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    'I called my son.' Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, became furious.

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    He sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem, and in all that region, who were two years old or under, according to the time that he had ascertained from the wise men." Obviously, all joking aside, this is horrific if we really stop and think about what happened here.

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    The government showed up at all of these people's houses.

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    Anybody that had a male baby two years or younger, and I believe Herod was just overshooting, I believe Jesus was about six months here, he wanted to be sure.

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    And look, you saw the kids' choir up here leading, they're going to be coming back up here in a couple of minutes.

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    Can you even wrap your brain around how vicious that is?

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    I mean, Herod knew roughly where he was going to be born because of the Scriptures.

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    He knew roughly when because of what he ascertained from the wise men.

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    that he just sent his people through there and said, "Look, you find a male baby two and under, you kill him.

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    Because I'm not going to have any competition for this King of the Jews title." Well, we started this by identifying three secondary characters who were in this account.

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    Herod, the chief priests, and the wise men.

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    As we close the message, I just want to remind you of the truth that you are one of the characters in this story.

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    So the question is, which character are you?

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    Which character are you?

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    Number one, if you're taking notes, are you Herod?

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    I'm king of my life, not Jesus.

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    Is that you?

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    Every year, every year, There's some group or another protesting something about Christmas, right?

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    You know what the latest was that I heard this year?

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    There was a school in Nebraska that banned candy canes.

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    Did you hear about this?

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    They banned candy canes! Do you know why they banned candy canes?

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    Because if you turn them upside down, they're in the shape of a J, and J stands for Jesus, and we can't have that in the school.

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    That's a true story.

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    It just gets dumber every year. It does.

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    But understand the root of it. The root of it.

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    It's not about the candy canes. It's about Jesus Christ.

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    Get rid of Jesus. Get rid of Jesus. Get rid of Jesus. Nothing new.

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    It all started with Herod.

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    He had the literal "Get rid of Jesus" campaign in the first century.

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    And Herod's story boils down really to one thing.

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    A self-proclaimed king scared to death of a baby.

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    That's Herod's story.

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    But you know, he was right to be concerned.

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    Because that baby became a man.

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    And about 30 years after this event, this man said things like this, "Deny yourself.

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    "Take up your cross and follow Me." That baby grew up to become a man who said things like, "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sin." That baby grew up to become a man who said, "Whoever loses his life will find it." So Jesus Christ really is the biggest threat.

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    to anyone, to everyone.

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    Because when you encounter Jesus Christ, He goes right after your heart.

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    And the question is, who's going to rule your life?

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    Who's going to sit on the throne of your heart?

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    By nature, we say, "I do. Nobody tells me what to do." Well, Jesus says, "Your way is destroying you." Jesus says, "Come to Me for healing. Come to Me for life.

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    Come to Me and let Me change you." But when somebody would rather hold on to their sin than embrace Jesus Christ, they must eliminate Jesus.

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    By the way, you don't really eliminate Jesus Christ.

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    Oh, you can rebel. You can protest. You can debate.

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    You can try to drown Him out with the clamor of your selfishness.

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    You can try to crowd Him out with your sin.

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    But you're never going to eliminate Jesus Christ.

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    And like Herod, someday you will come face to face with Him.

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    Some people, if they're being honest, most identify with Herod in this account to say, "Hey, I'm the king, not Jesus." Number two, maybe you're one of the chief priests.

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    They said, "The king is born? Meh." I mean, think about it.

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    The chief priests and the scribes, more than anyone, should have known what was going on.

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    I mean, think about it from their perspective for a second.

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    Okay, the king calls you in because he's so rattled by something.

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    He says, "Hey, where's the Christ going to be born?

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    I need to know where the Christ is going to be born." Why do you need to know that?

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    "Because these people came from Medo-Persia and they're looking for Him." If you're one of the chief priests, wouldn't you be like, "Oh, tell me more about this." But they were like, "Oh yeah, Bethlehem, Micah 5, 2, peace out." Like, really? Really?

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    I mean, in their day, the chief priest - when we think priest, we think religious person.

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    But remember, in their day, the chief priest sort of ruled Israel under Rome's authority, And in this chapter of history, they were more concerned about their political position than they were spiritual matters.

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    Boy, does that sound familiar?

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    Does it sound familiar?

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    That people are more interested in politics and worldly things, and they just don't have any concern for the spiritual stuff.

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    Does that sound familiar to anybody?

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    And honestly, church, I think that's the biggest danger in our culture.

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    Because you're always going to have a few loudmouths barking their anti-Jesus stuff. You're always going to have those guys.

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    But much more so, you have people that just don't really care.

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    We go to church because it's part of the tradition.

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    It's part of the tradition like the trees.

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    I'm not looking at anyone in particular, but it's part of tradition, like the ugly sweaters.

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    But truth be told, if you were being completely honest, you would say, "You know, I really don't care about this Jesus stuff.

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    I mean, I'll do the Christmas church thing. How much longer do you think He's going to talk?

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    This Jesus isn't part of my life in any real practical way." And if you can honestly assess yourself and come to that conclusion, then you're just like the chief priests in this passage.

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    "Oh, yeah, okay, sure." They should have cared more than anybody.

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    But they didn't.

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    Or, and this is my hope for you, maybe you're like one of the wise men, And we'll say, "I will worship the King." "I will worship the King." Garvis Bible Chapel, the last couple of weeks, we've spent a lot of time talking about worship.

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    We've been in Revelation chapters 4 and 5, having a peek behind the curtain at heaven.

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    And do you know what's happening in heaven?

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    Like the same thing that's always happening.

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    The King of the universe is being glorified.

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    And as we look at this story and think, "You know what?

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    Yeah, that sounds great in heaven, but what does it mean for me now, here on the earth, to worship?

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    How can I worship?

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    How can I make worship a priority?

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    I just want to encourage you as I close, just do what the wise men did.

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    There's really three things that they did here I want you to see.

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    Number one, pursue Him.

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    Pursue Jesus Christ. Seek Him.

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    I love the diligence here of these wise men.

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    They traveled a thousand miles from Persia to Jerusalem looking for Jesus.

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    They traveled a thousand miles from Persia. Do you know what that means?

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    That means you should never complain about driving to church again.

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    But pursuing Jesus isn't about church attendance, right?

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    It's about seeking Him in prayer.

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    When was the last time you were on your face alone with God, crying out to Him in prayer?

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    When was the last time that happened?

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    Seeking Him means seeking Him in His Word.

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    God's not going to shine His light over and address again for us to find Jesus, because God's given us a book so that we might find Jesus.

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    And if you don't have one of these, take the one that's in the chair in front of you.

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    That's our gift to you.

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    But that's the means by which we have been given to seek Jesus Christ.

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    Pursue Him with a community of believers.

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    God doesn't call any of us to seek the Lord on our own.

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    Get involved in a church full of authentic believers that are seeking the Lord.

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    Pursue Him.

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    I will worship the King, number two. How do we do that?

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    Humble yourself before Him.

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    Humble yourself before Him.

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    Do you notice in verse 2, they said, "We have come to worship Him." Verse 11 tells us that when they saw Jesus, they fell down in reverence before Him.

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    The word for "worship" in the Greek literally means "stoop to kiss." And it was the picture of what somebody did when they encountered the king.

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    When you saw the king, you got down and you kissed the top of his foot as reverence.

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    That's the word "worship." But that requires humility.

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    So forget the elf on the shelf.

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    Put yourself on the shelf.

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    Because worship always starts with humility.

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    Because He is God, and I am not.

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    Humble yourself before Him, and finally give to Him.

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    Give to Him. Certainly we give our time, we give our service.

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    But you see, material giving is always a part of worship.

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    That's not really a hard sell at Christmas time, is it?

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    We're very familiar with the concept that giving is an act of love, right?

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    But when you give to God, it's also an act of worship.

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    So don't myth Christmas.

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    Nor do I want you to miss Christmas.

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    So you can be Herod or a lesser Scrooge, and just be dead set against celebrating anything that has to do with God becoming a man, Jesus' birth, dead set against it.

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    You can be a chief priest and just not care enough to make the time for Jesus.

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    Or, you can be a wise man or a wise woman, and recognize and love Jesus Christ for who He is.

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    Which always, always, always leads you to worship.

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    Let's pray.

Small Group Discussion
Read Matthew 2:1-16

GROUP

  1. What surprised you the most about the story of the Wise Men and Herod? What myths have you believed about this account (e.g., there were three of them, they were there right when Jesus was born, etc)?

  2. What is the significance of the gifts given in Matt 2:11? Why is giving a part of worship?

BREAKOUT

Pray for one another!

Don't Myth Christmas - Part 1

Intro:

John 8:41 - ...They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father--even God."

Why I Believe Jesus Was Born of a Virgin:

  1. It is the Straightforward teaching of scripture.

    Genesis 3:15 - I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring...

  2. God is Able to do it.

    Luke 1:37 - Nothing will be impossible with God.

  3. It is Essential for salvation.

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  • 00:40-00:43

    Open up your Bibles with me, please, to Matthew 1.

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    We are taking a little break from our series in Revelation.

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    And today and tomorrow night, we're doing just a little two-part series called "Don't Myth Christmas." You know, several years ago, my son Cade got kicked in the face by a horse and launched, how far? 15, 20 feet, full flip in the air, landed on his face.

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    Horrific.

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    Long story short, taken to Children's Hospital in the trauma unit overnight.

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    The next morning, he jumped out of bed and acted like nothing happened.

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    It was a miracle from God Himself.

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    There were other doctors and nurses, remember Aaron, they would stop by our room, and Cade's playing and dancing and singing, being his goofy self, and they're like, "Excuse me, is this the little boy that was kicked in the face by the horse?" "Yeah, that's him." "And when did that happen?" "Last night." And they were just like, "It is an absolute miracle." And I've got to tell you, it absolutely was.

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    But if I told you that story every week...

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    I mean, now, some of you knew that story, right?

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    And some of you I can see by your faces, you're like, "Holy cow, tell us more." Okay, you know, I'll tell you more later.

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    But if I told you that story every single week, I imagine after a while, you'd be like, "Oh, here comes that horse story again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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    Yeah, we kicked in the face and launched from 15 or 20 feet, and yeah, in the trauma unit, up the next morning.

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    Yeah, we've heard this story before.

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    And what time is it? Where are we going to go to lunch?

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    And stop picking on your sister." And I'll be honest with you, Christmas can be tough to preach because I feel that a lot of times that's how people approach the Christmas story.

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    That it's so overly familiar that I think some people are like, "Okay, we're going to get gussied up, put on our best red and black checkered shirt, and we're going to go to church, and we're going to hear this story about something about angels and wise men and shepherds and babies and heard it before, heard it before." You know, there's just not a lot of material to draw from in the Bible when it comes to the birth of Jesus.

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    Easter, there's a lot of stuff we can talk about with the death and resurrection of Jesus and all of the implications and everything it means.

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    But when it comes to Jesus' birth, there's just not a lot of material in the Bible about His birth.

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    It's like, "What do I want to preach on this year? Matthew or Luke." Right?

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    Well, like a lot of stories, like a lot of true stories, So over time, some myths sort of get sprinkled in, maybe spice it up a little bit, right?

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    Maybe add some stuff to the story, and over time, the myths get taught as fact.

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    Right?

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    And I think that that happens with the story of Jesus' birth probably more than anything.

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    We just start adding stuff to it, adding stuff to it, adding stuff to it, and now we're not 100% sure everything that actually did happen and what I might have seen on a Hallmark movie.

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    I had a good friend, he passed away this past year, but I shared the gospel with him so many times, and his health was very bad near the end, and I think the Lord was starting to turn the lights on, and we would have spiritual conversations, and I remember so often he would say, You know, some people don't have a lot of money to give to the church, but I think we can all learn a lesson from the little drummer boy who didn't have money to give to Jesus, but he played his drum for Jesus.

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    And I think we can all learn a lesson from that.

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    And I would say, "You know that that's not a true story, right?" And no joke, he would say to me, "Jeff, I am shocked that you as a pastor would not believe." I'm like, "What, that I would not believe a story that's not in the Bible?" "I can't believe what I'm hearing you say!

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    As a pastor, I would expect you to believe!" And I think he died believing that when Jesus was born, there was some kid standing there, "Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr And that's this. Joseph was Jesus' dad.

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    And the virgin birth part of the story, it just isn't true.

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    It was just sort of added in later, and Joseph was really Jesus' dad.

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    That is the biggest myth that gets pushed at Christmas.

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    And we certainly don't want to myth Christmas, do we?

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    So let's get back to the source material.

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    Look at Matthew 1. We're gonna pick up in verse 18.

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    It says, "Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way." Just underline that in your Bible in this way.

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    Okay, not according to the myths you might have heard, according to this way.

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    When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph...

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    Let's stop right there. What do you mean betrothed?

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    Well, there were actually two stages of a Jewish wedding.

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    There was the Kedushin and the Huppah.

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    The Kedushin was the engagement.

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    It was a little different than in our culture.

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    You actually had families that would draw up a contract, and the couple was legally married.

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    They didn't have any contact with each other during the betrothal.

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    But this period, which would be 6 to 12 months usually, it would prove that she wasn't pregnant, and it would prove that he was hard working, as he would go off to set up their place to live.

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    That when wedding day actually came, he had a place to take her.

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    It was much more serious than engagements in our culture.

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    In our culture, you get engaged, you decide to break it off, you break it off.

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    And this culture, because the family entered into contracts with each other, it actually required a legal divorce to end the engagement.

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    So hold on to that thought for a second.

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    So you had the Kedushin or the engagement to betrothal, you had the chuppah, that was the wedding.

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    And the wedding lasted seven days.

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    Wedding and wedding feast, wedding reception.

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    I don't know if they had a cookie table at these weddings, but Pittsburghers have a hard time imagining a wedding without one, don't we?

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    But we have Joseph's dilemma here.

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    That they were betrothed, they were engaged, they were legally married, but not yet together.

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    Look at verse 18, "Before they came together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit." And you've got to admit, that would have been a very tough one for Joseph to hear.

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    Mary says, "Joseph, I'm pregnant." "Oh." And you know the first question, "Who's the father?" She's like, "Well, it's God." That had to have been tough, right?

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    I mean, if we're going to be honest, that sounds a little crazy, doesn't it?

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    Or the world's worst lie?

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    Look at verse 19.

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    It says, "And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly." So Joseph said, "Look, we're going to get a divorce for sure.

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    I'm engaged to this woman that says she's pregnant and she says that God caused it.

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    Like, it's got to be over.

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    And they had two options for divorce. They could have had a public divorce.

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    And you can see how a man feeling betrayed would opt for this.

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    It was public shaming in a public court.

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    But the other option was private. It was just two or three witnesses.

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    It was done in secret. No one needs to know.

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    and your Bible says that Joseph was a just man, and he was a compassionate man.

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    That whether he thought she was lying or whether he thought she was crazy, or he didn't know what to think, he goes, "Look, you know what? I love her." Just do this quietly, right?

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    It would have taken a message from God Himself to change Joseph's mind.

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    That's exactly what he got. Look at verse 20.

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    It says, "But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit." So you see, Joseph had Mary's condition confirmed.

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    These were the days before Maury Povich, right?

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    Like, "Joseph, you are not the father!" And he's running around, "Yeah, I knew it! I knew it!" Like, wait, wait, wait, wait. What does that mean?

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    That Mary's condition was confirmed.

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    that the Lord sent an angel to Saint Joseph.

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    She's telling the truth.

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    Look at verse 21.

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    It says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." God wasn't going to take any chance on the name.

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    I worked with a girl when I was working through college.

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    I worked at a local Walmart, and I worked with this girl.

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    She had a very unusually spelled name.

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    And I heard somebody reference her one time.

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    They said, "You need to go ask Lori." And I said, "Well, who's Lori?" And they said, "You know Lori. She has the curly hair and the glasses." And I'm like, "No, I don't know who that is." You know, she works back in the crafts department. I was just drawing a complete blank until I realized who they were talking about.

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    I brought it up to her. I said, "Lori, you have a very unusual spelling for your name." Like, how did that happen?

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    I thought there was some, like, you know, family story or it was some ethnic or cultural thing.

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    I was expecting some really fantastic story, and she said, "My dad was drunk when I was born, and when he was filling out the paperwork, he didn't know how to spell 'Laurie.'" So her name was literally spelled L-O-R-E-R-I-E.

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    "Laurie." Well, not implying that Joseph was in such a condition when he was naming.

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    But you see, the Lord wasn't taking any chances.

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    This child has to have the perfect name.

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    A name that's not arbitrary.

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    "Yeah, that sounds nice. I think I'll go with that." It wasn't a family name.

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    You're the fourth Richard born in our family.

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    It wasn't a trendy name like a lot of babies are named today.

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    What's popular, when God names, He names by defining the person.

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    Did you see that?

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    "You will call His name Jesus." The name Jesus, Yeshua or Joshua means "the Lord saves." "You will call this child 'the Lord saves.'" Why? For He will save His people from their sins.

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    So Mary was told that God would deliver a baby through her, and Joseph was informed, and then Matthew reminds us that we were all told long before this event back in Isaiah 7.14.

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    It says, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which means 'God with us.'" "Emanu" means "with us" in Hebrew. "El" is "God." So literally, "with us" is God.

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    That God would literally and physically be with us.

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    Then we see Joseph was obedient.

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    Verses 24 and 25, "When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him.

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    He took his wife, but knew her not, until she had given birth to a son, and he called his name Jesus." The question is, was Jesus really born of a virgin?

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    And I wish I could say, "Well, you know, it was awkward for Mary and Joseph at first, but eventually, after a while, everyone sort of accepted it, and this issue never went away. It never did." Jesus himself apparently had people who would fire shots at him over this.

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    John 8:41, in a confrontation with the Pharisees, the Pharisees said to Jesus, We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father, even God.

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    It remained a focal point of controversy throughout history.

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    There was somewhere around the 12th century, this cult came up with this thing, this idea that spread, that Mary, actually her neighbor came in at night and visited her and had relations with her, and because it was night and dark, she thought it was Joseph.

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    And then when she was pregnant, Joseph knew that it wasn't him.

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    So Joseph, after the baby was born, he took off because he knew it wasn't his baby.

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    And that silly belief spread.

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    But the sad thing, churches, it's not just with non-believers and cults.

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    Even pastors and churches and denominations drift away from this idea that Jesus Christ was literally born to a virgin.

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    I read an article this past week about an extremely well-known pastor, I'm not going to mention his name, but in 2016 he said this, "If somebody can predict their own death and resurrection, I'm not at all concerned about how they got into the world," this pastor said in a December 4th sermon at his church, which draws 36,000 attendees across six locations in suburban, you know, his town.

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    He says, "Christianity doesn't hinge on the truth or even the stories around the birth of Jesus, it hinges on the resurrection of Jesus.

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    And like a lot of people, this pastor sees the virgin birth of Christ as a minor point.

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    It's not really important if Jesus was born of a virgin, but the truth is, whatever you're celebrating at Christmas this year, this is the most important point.

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    That Jesus Christ was literally born of a virgin.

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    So today for a couple minutes I just want to share with you why I believe Jesus was born of a virgin.

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    So taking notes, write this down. Number one, it is the straightforward teaching of Scripture.

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    It's the straightforward teaching of Scripture.

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    For people to deny that Jesus was born of a virgin, they have to sort of do some hermeneutic acrobatics.

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    But if you're going to read and believe the Bible straightforwardly, It says that the Savior, Jesus Christ, was born to a woman that had not ever been with a man.

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    One of the objections I'm sure you've heard, I've heard it many times.

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    People say, "You know, when the Bible says 'virgin,' you know that word 'virgin'?

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    You know, you could translate that to mean 'young maiden' or 'young woman.' You know, that word can be translated that way, you know?

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    It could just mean a young woman, you know?

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    It could mean that.

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    But then I go back to Matthew here, and Matthew points out verse 18.

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    He points out, "Before they came together," then verse 25, he says, "But Joseph knew her not "until she had given birth to a son." And I read this and I think, well, if Matthew was going to communicate that Mary was actually a virgin, what else could he have said other than what he said?

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    And he quoted Isaiah 7.14, which becomes a center point for a lot of this.

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    Well, virgin can just mean a young woman.

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    But when you think about it, if you're going to hold to that interpretation, that makes Isaiah 7.14 pretty silly.

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    Let me explain.

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    If you go back to Isaiah 7.14, the context here, Israel was afraid that Syria was going to come through and wipe out the kingly line of Israel.

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    They were afraid. They're like, "If our kingly line is going to end, Syria's going to come through, it's all going to be over." And God was reassuring Israel by saying, Listen, here's a sign that the kingly line is always going to continue.

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    Here's the sign. You ready for a sign?

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    The sign is this.

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    A day is going to come that a virgin is going to give birth.

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    And that's going to be a sign that Israel, you're always going to have a king.

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    So, if "virgin" means "young woman," like some people claim, my question is, what kind of a sign is that?

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    That the Lord's like, "Hey, I've got a sign for you." You ready for this sign? It's going to blow your minds.

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    A woman's going to give birth.

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    "Whoa! I've never heard of such a thing!" That's not a sign. Did you notice it happens everywhere all the time?

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    Did you notice our nursery, our toddler room?

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    It's not a rare occurrence that a woman has a child.

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    But I'll tell you what is rare, a virgin having a child.

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    That's the sign.

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    And church, it all boils down to the integrity of God's Word, right?

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    It's the bottom line of everything we believe.

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    If you don't want to trust God, but you don't want to outright deny the Bible, you're going to start trying to intellectualize the Bible by reinterpreting some very clear passages.

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    So look, if you don't want to believe the Bible, that's your decision.

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    But don't try to make it say something else.

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    God said what He meant, and He meant what He said. Amen?

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    And He said very clearly that the Savior was going to be born to a virgin woman.

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    So it's a straightforward teaching of Scripture.

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    Number two, "God is able to do it." God is able to do it.

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    I mean, hearing this, you're like, "It's pretty far-fetched that a virgin would give birth." Do you think it's far-fetched?

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    Do you think it's far-fetched?

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    I'll tell you somebody who thought it was far-fetched.

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    Mary.

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    Mary thought it was the craziest thing she ever heard.

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    Luke 1.34, do you remember what she said?

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    She said, "How can this be? I'm a virgin." She's like, "I've never been with a guy.

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    How can it be?" Which, by the way, if you're still holding to that "virgin could mean young woman" thing, that makes Mary's statements sound pretty silly, huh?

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    "I'm going to have a baby. How can it be? I'm a woman." Well, men don't do it.

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    But do you remember what the angel responded, Gabriel responded, Luke 1.37?

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    He said this, "Nothing will be impossible with God." Nothing will be impossible with God.

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    And that's just theology 101.

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    that God is able to accomplish anything.

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    And He always does what He promises.

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    It's just so interesting to me that you look at some of the miracles in the Bible and the level of controversy that surrounds them.

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    There are people that don't struggle with "God parted the Red Sea for the Israelites," or "Jesus fed the 5,000 men plus the women and children." Like, I don't have any problem with that.

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    But then you get to this idea of "Jesus was virgin-born," and then all of a sudden we have all these objections and all this...

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    Like that's the line that's too hard for God.

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    I read a story this week.

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    One day C.S. Lewis was sitting in his office in the English department when a friend who was an unbeliever wandered in.

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    There were carolers below in the courtyard singing Christmas carols and the two were speaking and they could hear the carolers singing a Christmas carol that contained words about Jesus' virgin birth.

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    The unbelieving friend said to C.S. Lewis, "Isn't it good that we now know better than they did?" And C.S. Lewis said, "What do you mean?" And his friend replied, "Well, isn't it good that we now know more than they did?" And C.S. Lewis said, "I'm afraid you'll have to explain." And his friend says, "Well, isn't it good that we now know that virgins don't have babies?" And C.S. Lewis looked at his friend incredulously and said, "Don't you think that they knew that?" That was the whole point.

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    God is able to do it.

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    So it's straightforward teaching of Scripture.

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    God is able to do it.

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    And finally, it is essential for salvation.

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    Jesus had to be fully God and fully man both.

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    Why? Because it was man who brought sin into the world.

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    It would require a man to bear the punishment for sin.

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    But, He also had to be God in order to be sinless and offer a perfect sacrifice once and for all that would save all who would believe.

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    Because if Jesus Christ just had two human parents, if you're going to buy the myth that Joseph was Jesus' dad, then the sad reality is Jesus Christ was just another human being, and he was no different than you or I.

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    You know, think of that famous pastor that says, "Christianity doesn't hinge on the truth, or even the stories around the birth of Jesus, it hinges on the resurrection of Jesus." If Jesus Christ wasn't fully God and fully man in the manger, He wasn't fully God and fully man when He was on the cross.

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    And if He wasn't fully God and fully man when He was on the cross, then His death on the cross didn't mean anything.

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    You know, there's something about the Nativity scene that sort of fills us with hope.

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    I think sometimes we sort of reduce the Nativity scene to this story of this poor pregnant woman who overcame the odds and the obstacles and made it in time to give birth and we just sort of leave it at that. That the nativity scene is about a young couple that overcame tremendous obstacles. But this year I want to encourage you don't myth Christmas. This is the story of God himself becoming a man, entering the world in a most unexpected way, ultimately, to save you from your sins.

Small Group Discussion
Read Matthew 1:18-25

GROUP

  1. Why is the virgin birth an essential doctrine of our faith? What would it mean if Jesus WAS just “Joseph’s son”?

  2. Why do you think so many churches / pastors / Christians deny the straightforward teaching of God’s Word regarding the virgin birth? What reasons would motivate someone to deny it?

BREAKOUT

Pray for one another!