Worth Repeating

Alex Giannetti - alexgiannetti.com

With over a decade of Real Estate experience, Alex began as an investor and at the market's peak in 2006 owned 11 properties including his personal residence. The bubble burst and hit his family hard, but they regrouped and carried on with a No Debt Philosophy thanks to discovering the teachings of Dave Ramsey. Alex and his wife, Stacie, began teaching Dave's course, Financial Peace University and to date have helped hundreds of people to pay off over a million dollars in debt. Alex and Stacie are members of Harvest Bible Chapel with their two teen boys, Christian and Samuel

Intro:

Matthew 6:24 - No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

  • There is no such thing as Good Debt. (Prov 22:7)

  • Protect your Four Walls. (Prov 21:20, 13:22, 22:6)

  • Align your finances with True North. (Romans 12:2, Phil 4:6)

  • Keep it Real. (Prov 6:1-5)

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  • 00:21-00:23

    Is that the most awkward introduction you've ever heard?

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    (audience laughing)

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    Pretty much, right?

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    No one ran out of here, so that's good.

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    I wanna thank Pastor Jeff and the elders here at Harvest for, I see some open mouths still, it's okay, it's okay.

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    We made it, we made it.

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    For allowing me to come and speak today.

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    Clearly, I'm not a pastor, I'm just a regular guy.

    00:44-00:54

    You know, I think what gives me the credibility, what's earned me the ability to come up here and speak is that basically I have my PhD in DUMB.

    00:56-00:57

    You know, you heard all that today.

    00:59-01:03

    But that's okay, there's a way around this and we're gonna be talking about that a lot this morning.

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    You know, there are over 800 scripture verses about money.

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    And Jesus spoke more about money than he did on any other subject.

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    He talked more about money than he did about hell, about heaven, about salvation, about sin, about some temptation, about love.

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    It's interesting.

    01:19-01:31

    Why would there be so much discussion about money when you add in other areas like our possessions, our wealth, contentment, then that number leaps to over 2,000 verses.

    01:33-01:36

    You know, what I'm talking about today, I've entitled it Worth Repeating.

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    When something is repeated in the scripture, It's important.

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    And clearly money is something that is heavily repeated, the topic of money and wealth and possession, something heavily reported in the scripture.

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    And the reason for that is pretty simple.

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    Things are repeated for two reasons.

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    Number one, for emphasis.

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    God is saying, "Hey, listen, this is important.

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    "I need you to pay attention." So all throughout scripture, there are things that are repeated.

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    And then the other one is that, especially back in ancient times and biblical times, In order to give something credibility, it needed to be sustained by two or more witnesses.

    02:15-02:32

    So when you really think about the things that we kind of take for granted as we read the scripture on a daily basis, on a weekly basis, when we hear a message on Sunday morning, the gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, four in a row, back to back to back to back, repetition, the life and times of Jesus Christ.

    02:33-02:35

    It's important, we need to hear it.

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    The Ten Commandments are repeated, not only in Exodus 20, but again in Deuteronomy 5.

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    It's important.

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    It's worth repeating.

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    So money is no different.

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    It interferes with our relationship with God, and that's what I hope to drive home today.

    02:56-02:59

    And so right off the bat, Matthew writes about this, but Jesus said it.

    02:59-03:01

    He said you can't serve both God and money.

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    And the church overall, big church, big C, Christian Church, not just here at Harvest, does a pretty poor job actually of talking and approaching the subject of money.

    03:18-03:22

    How often do you hear a sermon on money, or better yet, a sermon series on money?

    03:23-03:23

    You don't.

    03:24-03:31

    You know, there are two things that really, really disrupt our relationship with God, and that's money and sex.

    03:31-03:33

    And the church doesn't talk about either.

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    that they'll talk about a lot of variety of other topics.

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    And so I think it's important that we don't just sidestep this and that we take it for what it is.

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    It's something that's really, really important.

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    Not just to go up and talk about it when there's a need for money.

    03:48-03:50

    We hear the word stewardship drive.

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    And Pastor Jeff talked about it a little bit at the offering this morning.

    03:54-03:58

    You know, that word stewardship has become a church word that has lost its meaning.

    03:59-04:03

    The meaning of that word is to be a manager for God, for what he's entrusted us with.

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    And all of a sudden you go to church and you hear stewardship, grab your wallet, 'cause someone's gonna build something and they're asking you for money.

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    And that's what it's turned into.

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    But the church did that.

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    And so that's definitely something that we can improve.

    04:17-04:25

    You see a lot of times sermon series on important subjects, marriage, relationships, family, raising children.

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    But the number one cause of divorce is money problems and money fights.

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    And money weaves its way into every aspect of our lives.

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    And we've got to talk about it. We have to address it.

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    We have to understand what God is trying to tell us about money.

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    So my goal today is to try to help you to understand the importance of creating a God-centered plan for your finances.

    04:57-04:59

    It's really, really important that we do this.

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    And I think that we can all agree that it's simple to understand that that's an important part of what we need to do.

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    You know, it's a simple concept.

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    Changing our behavior is the hard part.

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    And an example of this that we could probably all relate to in here is weight loss.

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    There's a very simple formula to lose weight.

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    All you have to do is burn more calories than you take in.

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    #math, right? I mean, it's pretty simple.

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    Yet the health and beauty industry, if you will, the fitness industry is a multibillion-dollar industry.

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    Why? There's infomercials on, I guarantee, right now, that are trying to get us to get a new gadget, to get off the sofa.

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    Right? So what keeps us all from doing the simple thing that we know we have to do?

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    But when I want to binge-watch Netflix and Kimmy Schmidt at 10 o'clock at night and eating ice cream, it's not a good combination.

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    It doesn't fit.

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    It's not going to help me with weight loss.

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    Right?

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    And so it's our behavior.

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    We know what we need to do.

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    We have a hard time doing it.

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    Finance is the same way.

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    You want to win with money?

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    Simple solution.

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    Spend less than you make.

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    Problem solved, right?

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    but we can't do it because we love stuff and stuff gets in the way.

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    First scripture verse I'm going to read this morning is Genesis 1 26.

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    Because I think it's important to understand who it is that we really are when it comes to our money. And the first thing we need to understand is that we are made in his image.

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    And so, let us make man in our image, in our likeness.

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    We talked about repetition.

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    There's repetition within a verse, back to back.

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    And I have one of these kind of fancy study Bibles that gives you all the cheater notes at the bottom.

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    It says, "Make no distinction between those two." In our image, in our likeness, it's one and the same.

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    Repetition right there.

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    Who are we made to be?

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    Pastor Jeff talked about it again this morning in the offering.

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    He stole some of my thunder this morning.

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    It's okay, I forgive you.

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    It's all good.

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    But God is the ultimate giver, the creator of heaven and earth.

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    Everything that we see, hear, smell, touch, it's all given to us, created for us.

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    And then we, created by Him.

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    Scripture says that He owns a cattle on a thousand hills, and Larry Bukett used to say, and he owns the hills too.

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    So everything is his.

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    Romans says in 3.23, Paul writes that, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." We know that, we're all sinners.

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    Again in 6.23, "For the wages of sin is death." There is a cost for our sin that we are unable to pay.

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    And so Jesus is that gift again to us who gave his life on the cross for us.

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    He took our place.

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    That's a debt that we are unable to pay.

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    You and I can't pay that debt.

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    And so we are all now spiritually debt-free as a result of Jesus and his giving.

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    This is the image that we are made in.

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    God made us in his image with that giving that is need to give, made to give, woven deep inside of us.

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    Somewhere in our DNA is woven this amazing thing that we are just called to.

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    And if there's anyone in here today who maybe you don't fully believe, maybe you don't really consider yourself a Christian or a believer and you kind of think some of this, you know, Jesus God stuff is hokey, I tell you what, you're made in his image too.

    09:19-09:28

    And we never feel it more than when the offering plate goes by or when you pretend to be fidgeting with your radio when there's a homeless person on the street at the light right next to you.

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    Why then do we feel so called to give?

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    Why do we feel that compassion?

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    That's just a spiritual truth right there.

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    There are some things that are just plain true.

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    And we know that. Everything in this book right here, the inerrancy of Scripture, there's nothing new under the sun. It is true. These aren't stories about people, they are accounts of actual things. The greatest history book ever written.

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    There's just a spiritual truth in that verse. And you know what? When you and I do a horrible job with our finances, when we spend all of our money, we can't give, can we? And when we can't give, then you and I are not able to be who God created us to be. And that's an unsettling feeling.

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    As Christians, we make the mistake of thinking that the church needs our money.

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    You might want to plug your ears, but the church doesn't need our money. Church established everything as his.

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    What the church needs is sold out believers in Christ Jesus.

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    And when you have that, the natural byproduct of that is giving.

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    You can't be a Christian, you can't be Christ-like without being a giver.

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    And so, our job, the church's job, is to help us to align our behaviors and our actions and our finances with God.

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    bring them together so that we can be the blessing that we are supposed to be.

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    That's the job of the church.

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    That's where that comes in.

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    And that's the reason for that offering plate.

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    It's for us.

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    This is all really easy to understand, but it's hard to do.

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    Everything that you heard in that very awkward introduction, 100% true.

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    100% true.

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    It's crazy, isn't it?

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    It's absolutely insane, and I did, I did.

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    I saw some mouths that were still open after I got up here, and it's okay.

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    It all worked out okay.

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    But as scary as that is, it's all true.

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    You know, at the time that that was happening, I mean, I included God in every aspect of my life, in my prayer life, in my walk, in my marriage, but when I was making money decisions, I was making those money decisions over here.

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    God, I got this part.

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    I don't need you for that.

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    You know, yeah, I'll bring you into my marriage, I'll bring you into my family, I'll bring you into my house, I'll pray to you every single day.

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    I will, you know, go and, you know, at the time I was an elder in my church, I mean, there was a lot of stuff that was going on, but the money part I got.

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    I don't need you for this, I got this.

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    That's a bad place to be.

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    That's a bad place to be.

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    Number one point for this morning is there is no such thing as good debt.

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    No such thing as good debt.

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    We're gonna be cruising through Proverbs this morning.

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    If you wanna turn to Proverbs 22.7, Proverbs is a great book of the Bible if you wanna get wisdom on life and money.

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    There are 31 chapters in Proverbs.

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    It's a great one-a-day read if you wanted to get some wisdom for the month.

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    Dave Ramsey says you could get a master's degree in finance if you read Proverbs.

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    There's a lot of wisdom in there.

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    Proverbs 22.7 reads, "The rich rules over the poor and the borrower is slave to the lender.

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    See, people today, in our culture today, many of us in this room, we're making payments based on what we did yesterday and in the past, instead of investing in the future and tomorrow.

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    It's backwards, isn't it?

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    I don't know who you're enslaved to.

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    For me, it was B of A, it was MasterCard, and it was Visa.

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    Maybe for you, it's someone a little more local, right?

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    PNC, Sally Mae, some kind of motor company, car payment maybe that you're making.

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    Those are the most common ones.

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    This is another spiritual truth.

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    See, when your money has someone else's name on it before it gets to you, that's a bad place to be.

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    God doesn't want that.

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    God doesn't want that for you.

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    Who wants to be in a situation where you have the stress before your check doesn't even get to you yet and it's already spent, most of it's already spent.

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    We don't wanna be in that place.

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    And the spiritual truth here also applies because when, at the time that this was written, in biblical times, if I owed you money, I would have to work it off.

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    I literally would become your slave.

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    I'd have to either work or I'd have to send my kids to work for you.

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    I want them as a broken foot.

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    It's not gonna be much use to you.

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    But when this was written, right, you literally had, you were slave to the lender.

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    I'm indebted to you.

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    And that became for a lot of things.

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    It wasn't just necessarily financial.

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    Sometimes it was a promise you made, the striking of hands with somebody, et cetera.

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    You had to go and pay that debt off with your life, with your sweat, with your back.

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    So today we have a hard time with reading this verse maybe and figuring out how it applies.

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    But there's a modern day master and servant that we've all probably experienced, whether it be personally or maybe through a friend or a family member.

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    And let me explain this to you a little.

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    If you've ever lent money to a friend, a family member, or a coworker, or if you've ever borrowed money from a friend, a family member, or a coworker, then you understand what I'm about to tell you.

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    See, let's say that you loan me $500 to help end me, to get me through the next paycheck or the next pay period because you knew that I was hurting.

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    Couple days later, we run into each other, wherever, grocery store, small group, church.

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    As we go up to meet each other, I see you look down and you notice my shoes and you look back up.

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    I happen to be wearing a new pair of shoes.

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    In my head, what am I thinking?

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    Oh man, this guy thinks that I took his money and went and got a new pair of shoes.

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    What are you thinking?

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    Did this clown really borrow $500 from me to go buy new shoes?

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    He said he needed to pay his rent.

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    Now, this is where this gets interesting.

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    See, we'll never say those words to each other.

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    And I'm going to avoid contact with you.

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    I'm going to get out of that conversation as quickly as possible.

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    And I'm going to avoid all contact with you until I get you paid off.

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    And even after you're paid off, our relationship will never be the same.

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    Isn't that interesting?

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    Because Satan will drive a wedge right there.

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    Because what is intended was good, what was well-intended, an act of giving, not really giving, loaning, was a difference, was used by the enemy to create a wedge in our relationship.

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    And when you're doing that with family, you have grandkids who don't talk to their grandparents for years, you're sitting at Thanksgiving and eating turkey with your master, it doesn't taste very good.

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    It's not a good place to be.

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    So part number two today, step two today is protect your four walls.

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    Proverbs 21 20 reads, "In the house of the wise are stores of choice, food and oil, but foolish man devours all he has." You know, some Christians like to wear their lack of money as a badge of honor, right? "Blessed are the poor," and you know, they see rich as being evil. You know, Jesus said it was harder to, you know, the eye of the needle and, you know, rich people are bad and that's not necessarily true, you know. Money doesn't have morals. Money is paper, right? It's a piece of paper. I like the analogy that Dave Ramsey uses. It's like this rock. If I have a ton of these rocks it doesn't make me evil. If I don't have any rocks doesn't make me good. I could take this rock and I could throw it through that window or I could take this rock and I could build a home, a shelter for battered women. Put something in the hands of someone who wants to do something good with it. Someone who wants to do the will of God and we can do powerful things with it. It's not about how much money you have or how much money you don't have. It's about aligning ourselves with the will of God and when you can get a bunch of Christians who've aligned their finances with God and they have a lot of money and a lot of resources that can be a very powerful tool. USA Today back in 2008 published a report said that 70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. That's crazy. 70%. Now that was a decade ago. But earlier this spring the US Department of Statistics published a statistic. That's what they do. And they said that we have more consumer debt today than we did during the downturn 10 years ago. That's crazy. But in the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil. God wants us to have good stuff. The best stuff it says, doesn't it?

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    Yet, when we're foolish and we spend everything we have, we become the wrong side of that verse.

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    The thing is, God wants us to have stuff.

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    He doesn't want our stuff to have us.

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    And that's where we get confused.

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    Proverbs 13, 22 says, "A godly man leaves an inheritance "to his children's children." How?

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    How is that possible?

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    We didn't we just establish that at least 70% of us, more like 75 maybe, are living paycheck to paycheck?

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    When I was researching this, I found a quote and something that I really had, I checked it three times 'cause I didn't believe it.

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    85% of Americans have less than $10,000 saved for their retirement.

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    85%.

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    We have the greatest opportunities around us.

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    Are we really, are we that?

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    Are we that foolish?

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    Are we not prepared?

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    That's insane.

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    So how do we do this?

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    How do we leave an inheritance to our children's children?

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    How do we do that?

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    How do we accomplish that?

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    One thing I want to tell you is that there is so much about this verse.

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    You could probably do an entire talk on this.

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    But what I want to discuss at this particular moment is, let's forget about finances for a second.

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    What if we left an inheritance of integrity, an inheritance of character, so that we can stop right here and right now?

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    We are one generation away from being debt-free, aren't we?

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    What if you and I were the last ones to ever have debt in our family?

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    How powerful would that be?

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    What if this generation of Christians right now decided, "I'm done.

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    This is the last generation of believers that will ever have debt, that will ever be slave to the lender." Wouldn't that be powerful?

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    If you're a parent, you know the next verse, Proverbs 22.6, Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not turn from it.

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    Ironically, this is the verse just preceding the first verse, which was the rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender.

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    I wonder if we should be teaching our kids about how to handle money.

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    Interesting.

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    Who taught you how to handle money?

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    You know who taught me how to handle money? My broke parents.

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    That's who taught me how to handle money.

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    What's funny is they didn't have a formal discussion with me.

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    They didn't call a family meeting and say, "Alex, come here, sit down at the table.

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    We're going to teach you how to really make a mess of yourself financially and screw everything up.

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    Come on, this is important.

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    Put the iPhone away." We didn't have those back then.

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    But they didn't do that.

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    They didn't do that.

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    I did probably what you did and what your kids and my kids are doing right now.

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    I don't care how old you are, your kids are still doing it, and that is watching.

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    See, more is caught than taught when you parent, and children learn what they live.

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    So I didn't listen in on a formal meeting, but I watched and listened to everything that was said and done.

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    I watched how purchases were made.

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    I watched how money discussions, money fights were handled.

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    And then I would also watch my friends and their parents.

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    And so because there was no formal training, there was no formal discussion on the matter, then I had to figure my own way.

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    When it was time for me to be an adult, go out and start making purchases, I just did what felt right.

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    And that's no way to go about this.

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    Our feelings will mess with us.

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    Our feelings often lead us in the wrong direction.

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    We're going to prove a little exercise here for a second.

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    Everyone do me a favor.

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    Stand up to your feet here really quick.

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    I know it's a pain, I'm sorry, but I can see all of you, so please play along nicely and I won't mess with you, OK?

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    Here's what you're going to do.

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    everyone for a second to close your eyes. Close your eyes. Then without cheating, without giving anyone an answer, don't do anything. I want you to think about where north is.

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    I want you to point north. Point north. Okay. Now, don't change your answer. Don't move your arm, but I want you to open your eyes and look around. Look around the room. We all over the place. All right, go ahead have a seat. North is actually right through here. According to my compass, North is right through there. Some of you are pointed over here, some of you are there, someone was pointing straight up.

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    Okay, we're all over the place. And see, our feelings will mess with us. Our feelings can lead us in the wrong direction.

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    You know, some people I can see some discussions going on, right?

    25:14-25:16

    Like I don't think that's North, North is really over here.

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    This is North, right?

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    So I don't care how strongly you feel that that's North, this is North.

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    You could have a doctoral degree from CMU on magnetic pull, this is still North, right?

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    The truth is the truth.

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    So for the rest of what I want to talk about today, we're going to talk about true North, ourselves with God and I'm just going to use this because I don't want to be turning my back to you all the time but I'm going to be using some arm motions probably as I'm as I'm flailing around up here. And that's step number three today is align your finances with true north, with God.

    25:57-27:05

    Romans 12 to Paul writes, "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you'll be able to test and approve what God's will is, His good, pleasing, and perfect will. When I was doing all of that crazy stuff that you heard about in the beginning, when I was doing all that stuff, I really and truly felt and authentically believed with all my heart that I was making good decisions. I was adamant that this was north. 180 degrees in the wrong direction. But I was sure of it. This was it. This was the way. This is going to be the breakthrough. You know, if you're outside the will of God, if we're supposed to be here, anywhere else by definition is wrong. Isn't it? And so, If you're out here in your prayer life, if you're out here in your marriage, if you're out here with your walk with God, that's tough.

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    That's hard.

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    It causes stress and anxiety.

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    But when you're out here with your finances, you don't sleep at night.

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    We need to take all of these things, every aspect of our lives, and we need to align them with God, our prayers, our relationships, our marriage, our money, and that's going to be powerful. Because we don't want to be stressed. We don't want to be sleepless.

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    Paul speaks to this in Philippians 4.6. He says, "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and petition with thanksgiving present your request to God, And the peace of God which transcends all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus." Because when you can align every aspect of your life with the will of God, you get this peace that comes upon you that you just can't explain.

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    You heard how we lost some properties to foreclosure.

    28:10-28:12

    Stacey and I came home from a trip to Costco one day.

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    There's a notice on the door that says, "You don't live here anymore." And I'll never forget it.

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    I can picture it like it happened yesterday.

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    We were already at the time knee deep into fixing our problem and we had found Dave Ramsey and we were going through and for the first time in our life, first time in our marriage we had been talking, communicating about money and we actually had a plan.

    28:36-28:37

    And it was working.

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    We were negotiating hard with the bank to try to allow them to keep our home while we were trying to sell it and we were trying to just make things work and finally they they just said, "We're done with you." And they got rid of it.

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    They sold it out from under us.

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    And we're there and we're carrying our stuff in from Costco and there's a notice on the door and we just kind of went, "Huh, well, that sucks.

    28:58-29:05

    Okay, plan B." And we just had a plan.

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    We had a plan and that was okay.

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    It was just stuff.

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    And I don't know that I can explain it.

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    It's literally the verse.

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    It's a piece that I couldn't understand.

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    I knew that we were going to be okay.

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    And we were, we landed on our feet, everything is good.

    29:23-29:27

    Point number four this morning is keep it real.

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    See, here's one thing that I know.

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    I know that in this room right now, there's a lot of people who are struggling.

    29:38-29:45

    And part of that struggle is dealing with the lies of the enemy that you're playing in your head.

    29:46-29:51

    Because some of you in this room think that maybe you're the only ones who are struggling financially that you haven't talked to anyone about.

    29:52-29:57

    Some of you in this room maybe are the only ones who think that you're arguing with your spouse about finances.

    30:00-30:03

    Maybe you're the only ones who are nervous about your job.

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    Maybe you're nervous about being able to retire.

    30:08-30:12

    Maybe that statistic I talked about retirement today applies to you.

    30:12-30:26

    Maybe you're concerned because your son or daughter is gonna be going into college and accumulating, like unfortunately many do, tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt because you didn't do anything to prepare for their college.

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    But what I want you to know is you can't listen to those lies.

    30:35-30:42

    Satan is the father of lies, and what he wants to do, nothing more than anything else, to separate you from those who love you.

    30:45-30:53

    So when we fail to talk about this stuff and you get separated from your small group, you get separated sometimes even from your spouse.

    30:54-30:56

    See, Stacy and I didn't argue about money ever.

    30:56-30:58

    We just never talked about money.

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    So don't listen to those lies.

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    There's nothing he wants more than to separate you from your small group, your church, and the people who love you.

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    I used to be that person.

    31:10-31:13

    When we were going through this mess, I was an elder at my church.

    31:13-31:14

    We had been going to this church.

    31:15-31:16

    It was a church plant for a decade.

    31:17-31:22

    I knew every person who came every Sunday and loved every single one of them.

    31:23-31:28

    And I would show up every Sunday morning and be greeted by many of my friends and people that I love deeply.

    31:29-31:30

    And they would say, "Hey Alex, good morning.

    31:30-31:33

    "How you doing?" And my response was, "Oh, I'm doing great.

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    "How are you?" Right?

    31:36-31:38

    Man hug, you know, we do that guys, a man hug we do.

    31:39-31:41

    It was a lie, it was a lie.

    31:42-31:54

    I wasn't doing good, I was terrified, absolutely terrified that I was gonna lose everything, my wife was gonna leave me, I'm a disaster.

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    This is bad.

    31:58-32:03

    Why couldn't I, why didn't I have the guts to tell the truth to the people I loved?

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    Don't you think things might have been a little different if I was able to just come forward?

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    Someone comes up to me and says, "Hey Alex, how you doing?" And I say, "Well, you know what, Varney, I'm not doing well this morning, man.

    32:20-32:22

    I've done some really dumb stuff financially.

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    I'm scared.

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    I don't even know that Stacy knows the full brunt of everything that's going on, and I need help." Wow.

    32:33-32:35

    It's powerful, isn't it?

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    Anyone in this room going to laugh at someone who comes to you with that?

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    Wouldn't your heart break for that person?

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    Wouldn't you want to help them find help?

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    Wouldn't you want to find a way to help that individual?

    32:46-32:47

    No, but that's not what we do.

    32:47-32:51

    We believe the lies and we believe the talk and we just keep it to ourselves.

    32:52-32:54

    And that's a really bad place to be.

    32:55-32:58

    Some of you in this room lied to someone that you love this morning.

    33:00-33:05

    And some of you were lied to by someone that you love this morning.

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    No matter where we are financially, no matter where we are, we can all do better.

    33:13-33:23

    That statistic that I was telling you about earlier, the US Department of Statistics released the number and the quantity of consumer debt earlier this spring.

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    12.3 trillion dollars in consumer debt.

    33:31-33:46

    I saw that number and I went, "Huh, interesting." Then they released, "Well, here is the top items "that it's made of." 10.6% of it was student loan debt, 9.2% of it was auto, and 6% was credit cards.

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    The rest of it, the other 75%, just imagine, death by a thousand cuts, just stuff.

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    all kinds of stuff that we need.

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    This is consumer debt, it's not mortgages, this is not people's homes.

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    This is just stuff.

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    It's insane.

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    So the first question I thought is, and I have some, you know, a few brain cells that work.

    34:14-34:16

    I'm a fairly intelligent guy.

    34:16-34:21

    I can't wrap my head around what a trillion dollars is, much less 12.3 trillion.

    34:21-34:23

    So I did what anyone would do today.

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    I asked Google, right?

    34:25-34:27

    Hey, what's a trillion bucks?

    34:27-34:34

    And you see all kinds of images of like money on pallets piled over stadiums, but that doesn't help me.

    34:34-34:36

    I still can't figure that out, right?

    34:39-34:41

    Here's what a trillion dollars looks like.

    34:42-34:44

    Just one trillion, not the 12.3.

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    If I gave you a trillion dollars and asked you to spend a million dollars since the day Jesus was born, you would have $300 billion still in your pocket today.

    34:57-34:59

    What if Christians were debt-free?

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    Majority of these people, I'm gonna say, a good 50% of that consumer debt probably belongs to Christians.

    35:06-35:08

    What if Christians were debt-free?

    35:08-35:16

    What could the people of God do for the kingdom of God if our money didn't have someone else's name on it before it came to us?

    35:18-35:20

    Would there be poverty in the world?

    35:21-35:22

    I mean, think about this for a second.

    35:24-35:28

    Would we have to be begging people to build wells in Africa?

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    Would we have a problem stopping human trafficking or drugs?

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    Couldn't we fix all that?

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    It's crazy.

    35:39-35:41

    We don't want to be burdened with debt.

    35:42-35:45

    It doesn't allow us to be who we are supposed to be.

    35:48-35:53

    So what do you do if you find yourself in a situation that you're less than pleased with.

    35:54-35:56

    I'm not happy with my financial situation, what do I do?

    35:58-36:03

    Proverbs 6, it's a crazy, crazy, crazy verse.

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    It's probably the keystone verse for what Dave Ramsey teaches.

    36:11-36:31

    Proverbs 6 reads, "My son, if you have put up security "for your neighbor, if you borrowed money, If you have struck hands in pledge for another, if you've made some kind of deal, if you've been trapped by what you said and snared by the words of your mouth, he's covering all the bases here, right?

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    If you've done anything stupid here, then do this, my son, to free yourself since you have fallen into your neighbor's hands, since you've become a slave, since you've enslaved yourself.

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    "Go and humble yourself.

    36:50-36:53

    "Press your plea with your neighbor." But see, here's the kicker.

    36:54-36:57

    "Allow no sleep to your eyes, no slumber to your eyelids.

    36:58-37:09

    "Free yourself like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter, "like a bird from the snare of the fowler." If you have messed up, if you've got debt, you gotta get rid of it.

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    You gotta pay it off.

    37:10-37:12

    You have to work.

    37:13-37:18

    Sure, pray like it depends on God, but work like it depends on you.

    37:19-37:20

    You have to own it.

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    Our culture today, and I'm just gonna sound like an old man 'cause I just, you know, I read, I see the news and I just shake my head at some of the stuff that goes on politically, but our culture today has really just decided that nothing is our fault.

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    It's always someone else to blame.

    37:38-37:39

    We're a Teflon culture, aren't we?

    37:41-37:47

    We always want someone else, well, you know, It's because of them, or it's because of that, or, you know.

    37:49-37:51

    Here's a news flash for you.

    37:52-38:00

    CNN, the North Koreans, the Russians, climate change-- I'm sorry, global warming, all that stuff-- none of that had anything to do with our debt.

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    It's all us.

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    We can't blame this on something else, on someone else.

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    We have to fix this.

    38:08-38:09

    We're the ones who have to own this.

    38:11-38:15

    You've got to get fired up about making a change, or it's not going to happen.

    38:17-38:26

    There's too much important things that we could and should be doing with our finances to be blessing to others, to be who we were created to be, to have a pity party for ourselves.

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    And there's no pity party in scripture.

    38:30-38:33

    Get off your butt and work, is what it says.

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    There's a great place to go when you have debt, to work.

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    Let's get it paid off.

    38:42-38:49

    Now, if you're out here financially, and you're married, and you're not here where you're supposed to be, it's a really bad place to be.

    38:51-38:59

    And, you know, I have an amazing marriage, I'm married to an amazing woman who definitely should have left my rear end when all this stuff was going on, but she didn't.

    39:01-39:03

    And it's hard.

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    And if you're the man, Your wife is terrified if you have that.

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    She's not just nervous or scared, she's terrified.

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    Because that's a huge, huge security need for women.

    39:19-39:20

    Women, am I right?

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    Absolutely.

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    And women, if you've got financial struggles, your man isn't feeling very manly.

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    John Eldredge wrote an amazing book called Wild at Heart.

    39:35-39:41

    And in his book, he wrote that men need a beauty to rescue and a battle to fight.

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    And when we suck at fighting our battle and we don't feel like we can rescue our beauty and take care of our household, that's a really bad place to be.

    39:53-40:28

    And so you need to be aware of those feelings for each other and what each of you is going through, because that leads to even worse fights when the topic of money starts coming up. So what I really want us to do is to get on track and align with God. You need to get your marriage and your finances, your prayer life and your walk and everything important in your life all in tune. We're in the middle of or we just are about to start Financial Peace University here at Harvest. We had our first meeting last week but it was just an introduction.

    40:28-40:30

    Week one really starts on Wednesday night.

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    So if you don't have answers to some of the questions that you have, that's a great place to be.

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    We've seen marriages saved as a result of couples coming to Financial Peace University.

    40:44-40:51

    And there's no reason why we have to conform to what today's norms are.

    40:52-40:57

    Because if you come through Financial Peace University, what you'll learn is that, yes, you can be a student without a student loan.

    40:58-41:00

    You can own a car without a car payment.

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    You can retire with dignity.

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    It's perfectly possible to have a budget that actually works and a realistic plan to pay off your debt.

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    Don't you think it's about time to start telling your money where to go instead of wondering where it went?

    41:20-41:22

    There shouldn't be any need to stress about finances any longer.

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    What I want us all to be able to do experience the peace that Paul talked about in Philippians 4.6, the peace that transcends all understanding. God's peace. Let us pray. Isaiah 40 tells us that God measured the oceans of the earth with his hands. Let's just all take a second right here and think about the God that holds the universe in his hands. Contemplate the enormity of our God, our loving and giving God. I want you to picture Him right now in your mind.

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    Father God, you know our hearts and the struggles we have. There is nothing in our lives that is bigger than you, not even close. Let us measure our worry against the size of the love that you have for us, Father. Help us today to align ourselves with your will to embrace the image in which we were created and to be the blessing that you intend us to be.

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    We pray Lord that each of us here today would learn how to honor you with all that you have entrusted us.

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    For those of us who need help that we would seek and that help would be found.

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    And for those of us who have been blessed that we would continue to be that blessing to others.

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    We pray this in Jesus name.

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    Amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read Proverbs 6:1-5

  1. Money and sex are probably the two areas of our lives that separate us most from God.
    Why do churches then avoid these topics?

  2. Proverbs 22:7 reads, "The rich rules over the poor and the borrower is slave to the lender."
    Have you ever borrowed or lent money to or from a friend or family member? How did that work out? Is your relationship the same today?

  3. US consumer debt is at an all time high. What would you do if you were completely debt free?
    - For your family
    - For your church
    - Would your giving look different? How

  4. Who is teaching your children about money and do you know what they are learning

  5. Money problems and money fights are the #1 cause of divorce.
    How would you rate your communication about money?

Breakout Questions:
Pray for each individual and their relationship with money as God has design us to. 

David: Failure and Redemption

Brandon Stephenson - onechurchPGH.com

Brandon Stephenson was born and raised in Butler, PA. He was a part of North Street Christian Church where Pastor Jeff used to serve. Brandon is married to his amazing wife, Danielle, and they have 3 boys: Noah, Drew and Coby. They are currently planting a new church in the South Hills area of Pittsburgh called One Church.

Intro:

2 Samuel 11:1-3* (NIV) - In the spring, at the time when kings go off to war, David sent Joab out with the king's men and the whole Israelite army. They destroyed the Ammonites and besieged Rabbah. But David remained in Jerusalem. One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, "She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite."

2 Samuel 12:13 (NIV) - Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan replied, "The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die."


We are just like David.


Romans 3:23* (NIV) - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God


Our sin doesn't Define us, our Reaction to it does.

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  • Pastor Jeff:

    00:25-00:45

    For those of you that are visiting with us, my name is Pastor Jeff Miller, and it is usually at this point in the service that I have the privilege of delivering God's Word to you, but I have a different privilege over these next few weeks, and that is to introduce some amazing guest speakers.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:46-00:52

    Kicking off these next few weeks of guest speakers, Brandon Stevenson, if you would make your way up here, please.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:54-01:04

    Brandon was born and raised in Butler, Pennsylvania, and he was part of North Street Christian Church where I served for 11 years as associate pastor.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:04-01:12

    And when I think of Brandon, there's always two things that I think about, and one is — he looks nervous.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:13-01:16

    I'm just going to let this hang for a second.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:17-01:18

    I'm just kidding.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:19-01:21

    Brandon's a tremendous basketball player.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:21-01:22

    You still play?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:23-01:32

    you can. I know Brandon dominated Church League back in what I like to refer to as his prime.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:34-01:56

    But what's really special about Brandon is his heart for Christ, his love for the Word of Christ and his dedication to Christ's church. Brandon is married to his amazing wife, Danielle, and we're not going to bring you up front and make you give a speech, but I would like you to stand up so that we could welcome you, Harvest Pittsburgh North Style.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:00-02:05

    And they are blessed with three boys, Noah, Drew, and Kobe.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:06-02:18

    And Brandon served as a youth pastor in a church in Wisconsin for many years, and just recently got the call to return to the burg for the next chapter of God's story and the life of his family.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:19-02:24

    and they're currently planting a new church down in Short Tears Valley called One Church.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:25-02:31

    And Brandon and I had lunch a couple of months back and we're getting caught up in what the Lord was doing in his life.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:31-02:41

    And I'm like, "Hey, if your church isn't planted yet, that means your Sundays are free." And I would love for you to come and bless Harvest Bible Chapel by delivering the word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:42-02:48

    So Brandon, we have our Bibles and we are ready to hear what the Lord is going to speak through you.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:48-02:52

    So let's give a Harvest Pittsburgh North welcome to Pastor Brandon Stevenson.

    Brandon:

    02:57-02:58

    Good morning, how you guys doing?

    Brandon:

    03:00-03:00

    Good, good.

    Brandon:

    03:00-03:02

    I said I'd call something out.

    Brandon:

    03:02-03:08

    You know, Jeff's talking about my basketball ability, but you also heard him say I dominated church league, which means I wasn't good enough for high school basketball.

    Brandon:

    03:09-03:12

    So you know, it's like in the minor leagues of church league, but it was fun.

    Brandon:

    03:12-03:14

    So it's good to be with you all today.

    Brandon:

    03:14-03:16

    I'm excited to spend some time with you guys.

    Brandon:

    03:17-03:19

    I've known Jeff for many, many years.

    Brandon:

    03:20-03:25

    And Jeff's kind of like a folk hero to me, kind of a legend.

    Brandon:

    03:26-03:26

    'Cause you gotta think about this.

    Brandon:

    03:26-03:31

    When Jeff came to North Street, he was from North Street, when he came on staff, I was in junior high.

    Brandon:

    03:32-03:54

    And when this associate pastor comes, who's like ripped and buffed and just kind of manly looking, and you find out that he moonlights on the weekends or used to as a studio wrestler that went by the name of Too Cool Trevor Lowe, as a junior higher, you're like, "Oh my God, this is like the coolest pastor ever!" And so, you know, Jeff had this kind of folk hero status with me and all the other people in our church.

    Brandon:

    03:54-03:59

    And Jeff taught me some really amazing things in my life that I have to give thanks for.

    Brandon:

    04:00-04:01

    And not even the Jesus stuff.

    Brandon:

    04:01-04:04

    He taught some cool things about Jesus, and I appreciate that.

    Brandon:

    04:04-04:08

    But he taught me things about life that I still carry with me today.

    Brandon:

    04:09-04:14

    You know, one of the things he taught me when I was a kid was how to defend myself from bullies.

    Brandon:

    04:14-04:22

    And when it happened, he said, "All I had to do was give them a purple nurple." And if you don't know what that is, just ask 2 Cool Trevor Lowe after service.

    Brandon:

    04:22-04:24

    He will tell you what a purple nurple is.

    Brandon:

    04:25-04:31

    But more than that, he also taught me some important dietary information of how to just enjoy life, eat good food.

    Brandon:

    04:32-04:36

    And what he taught me, I think you were still a single guy back then, so you just really had this thing figured out with diet.

    Brandon:

    04:37-04:39

    But I remember we were hanging out with him and he lived right beside the church.

    Brandon:

    04:40-04:45

    We were hanging out with him one night and he's talking to us, he's like, "Guys, the best midnight snack you could possibly get.

    Brandon:

    04:45-04:48

    You know when you go to the grocery store and you see those tubes of cookie dough?

    Brandon:

    04:49-04:55

    You buy one of those and you plop the whole tube on a pan and you put it in the oven.

    Brandon:

    04:55-05:01

    You cook it till the outside is like the color of a cookie, but inside it's just raw, gooey, warm cookie dough.

    Brandon:

    05:01-05:05

    So I live off the Jeff Miller cookie dough diet now, as you can tell.

    Brandon:

    05:05-05:10

    So Jeff, thank you, 'cause my life has forever been changed because of your tutelage to me.

    Brandon:

    05:11-05:20

    But no, more importantly, I'm excited just to be here and just to share God's word with you guys this morning and be a part of Harvest Pittsburgh North just for a moment with you guys today.

    Brandon:

    05:20-05:29

    I still remember when Jeff, I was in the process of getting this church started, I was excited because I love Pittsburgh and I love Jesus and I love when Jesus and Pittsburgh get together like this.

    Brandon:

    05:29-05:34

    And so I get to be a part of that with you guys and I just thank you for bringing me in.

    Brandon:

    05:34-05:40

    And so right now, like Jeff mentioned, we are in the middle of planning a church in Chartier's Valley area of the South Hills of Pittsburgh.

    Brandon:

    05:40-05:43

    So Scott Township, Ridgeville, that community right there.

    Brandon:

    05:44-05:45

    And it is an adventure.

    Brandon:

    05:45-05:53

    It is just a crazy journey that leaves us just shaking our heads in delight, shaking our heads in what is going on.

    Brandon:

    05:53-05:57

    It's just a crazy, crazy journey for my wife and kids and I and the people who are part of this thing.

    Brandon:

    05:58-06:08

    And if you were to ask me what our chapter of life is called right now, the best chapter title I could give it is simply "unpredictable." Because we have no idea what's about to happen.

    Brandon:

    06:08-06:25

    If you were to talk to me one day and say, "Hey, Brandon, how are things going?" I'd be honest with you and tell you how I was doing that day at that moment, but I'd also say, "Hey, just give me a few hours, because I could be completely different later today depending on what's about to happen." Because this journey is so unpredictable.

    Brandon:

    06:25-06:49

    Between moving to this new community six months ago after living in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area for almost eight years, moving to that community, knowing three total people in the the Chartiers Valley, South Hills area, to starting this new church, to meeting a ton of new people, to doing events in our community, all while having three kids, five and under, it's been absolutely unpredictable for us in this chapter of our lives.

    Brandon:

    06:50-06:51

    It's amazing.

    Brandon:

    06:52-06:52

    It's exhausting.

    Brandon:

    06:53-06:53

    It's exhilarating.

    Brandon:

    06:54-06:57

    It's been faith-filled, but it's completely unpredictable.

    Brandon:

    06:57-07:02

    And all of us have different chapters in our lives that we could title different things.

    Brandon:

    07:02-07:08

    All of us have seasons, all of us have moments where we can kind of give it a theme or a chapter title.

    Brandon:

    07:08-07:16

    And I want you guys to do really quick, just for fun, I want you to turn to your neighbor, and if you were to have a chapter title of your life right now, tell your neighbor what the title of that chapter would be.

    Brandon:

    07:16-07:17

    Go ahead and do that.

    Brandon:

    07:18-07:20

    All right, you guys share your chapter titles?

    Brandon:

    07:21-07:24

    I heard some giggling, some laughter, some nervous laughter even.

    Brandon:

    07:24-07:59

    So I think what's cool about this is in this room, there's a bunch of us with different backgrounds and different baggage and different behaviors and different things like that. We all have our own unique separate stories. And while we're all different and all have different chapter titles and different seasons of life, I think we all have similar chapters too. I think if we got to sit down and talk with each other, I think we'd find out that some of our chapters actually line up with different moments in our life. In fact, I think we all have a chapter that I think we could call failure. I think we all have this chapter of failure that's a part of our lives.

    Brandon:

    07:59-08:07

    There's not a single person on this planet that hasn't failed in some way, shape, or form, even those we hold in high regard like Too Cool Trevor Lowe.

    Brandon:

    08:08-08:12

    People that we held in high regard, they have had chapters of failure in their life.

    Brandon:

    08:13-08:15

    See, I grew up as a Penn State fan in my house.

    Brandon:

    08:15-08:18

    My dad instilled that quickly into me as a kid.

    Brandon:

    08:18-08:26

    We would watch Penn State football on Saturdays, afternoons together, and with Penn State, when you associated Penn State, you always associated them with one person.

    Brandon:

    08:26-08:27

    Who's that person?

    Brandon:

    08:28-08:28

    Joe Paterno.

    Brandon:

    08:29-08:30

    It's a no-brainer.

    Brandon:

    08:30-08:32

    That's who you associate Penn State football with.

    Brandon:

    08:32-08:40

    And so I grew up watching Penn State football and watching Joe Paterno on the sidelines and kind of being in awe that this guy was such a legendary coach.

    Brandon:

    08:40-08:42

    He was into his 80s, still coaching football.

    Brandon:

    08:42-08:44

    It was mind-boggling.

    Brandon:

    08:44-08:50

    For 40 years throughout his time as head coach, he worked hard to do things differently as a coach.

    Brandon:

    08:50-08:54

    He told his players that it wasn't just about playing football, but also about getting an education.

    Brandon:

    08:54-09:03

    And because of that tutelage, the Penn State football team would routinely have some of the highest graduation rates all across Division I football year after year.

    Brandon:

    09:04-09:08

    He always talked about living a life of honor, and kids grew up wanting to play for Joe Paterno at Penn State.

    Brandon:

    09:08-09:15

    He was a living legend, and people adored him, not just for his coaching ability, but because of the person that he was.

    Brandon:

    09:16-09:27

    But almost six years ago now, news broke that a former coach of Paterno's had been molesting boys for years at Penn State, and it was found out that Joe Paterno knew that it was going on.

    Brandon:

    09:28-09:43

    Paterno ended up getting fired because of this, which was unthinkable, because we found out that he maybe could have done more to stop the disgusting ass that was taking place on his campus, the campus that he had a lot of control over.

    Brandon:

    09:44-09:47

    And the way we viewed Joe Pa forever was changed.

    Brandon:

    09:47-09:52

    You see, the hero of Penn State failed, and it was mind-boggling.

    Brandon:

    09:52-09:57

    You see, people fail from athletes to politicians to coaches to teachers to parents to ourselves.

    Brandon:

    09:58-10:01

    Failure is a part of the human life and the human experience.

    Brandon:

    10:01-10:02

    It's a part of our stories.

    Brandon:

    10:03-10:15

    Tiger Woods, the lone at the top of the golf world for years, he was, he created a generation, a younger generation that was actually interested in golf, but he failed when it came out that he had a sex addiction.

    Brandon:

    10:16-10:30

    Lance Armstrong, cancer survivor, seven-time Tour de France winner, captured the hearts of our country with his story failed when it came out that he used steroids to achieve his cycling victory. You want to see how big of a deal he was for America when it came to cycling?

    Brandon:

    10:30-10:33

    How many of you guys even realize that Tour de France is going on right now?

    Brandon:

    10:33-10:37

    Very few of you, because Lance Armstrong isn't a part of it anymore.

    Brandon:

    10:38-10:40

    He failed when it came out that he cheated.

    Brandon:

    10:42-10:51

    And for you, I'm sure you can think of times in your life where you screwed up, you failed, you messed up. I know I can. I can give you a list of things that I've screwed up with.

    Brandon:

    10:52-10:53

    People fail.

    Brandon:

    10:53-10:54

    You fail, I fail.

    Brandon:

    10:55-11:02

    From us to people we hold in high regard in our culture and everyone in between, we all have this one thing in common, that we all fail in some way, shape, or form.

    Brandon:

    11:03-11:04

    And it's not like these people set out to fail.

    Brandon:

    11:04-11:07

    I don't think Tiger Woods woke up one day and said, "Hey, you know what?

    Brandon:

    11:07-11:13

    "Today I'm going to start into sex addiction "and just completely screw up my marriage, my life, my career." No one sets out the plan to fail.

    Brandon:

    11:14-11:15

    It usually happens when it isn't planned.

    Brandon:

    11:16-11:19

    It just happens through different steps and different mistakes and things like that.

    Brandon:

    11:19-11:25

    And today, with you, we're gonna look at the failure of one of the heroes in the Bible.

    Brandon:

    11:26-11:30

    And we're gonna spend most of our time today in the book of 2 Samuel, if you wanna open that up today.

    Brandon:

    11:31-11:34

    And we're gonna talk about this person's failure.

    Brandon:

    11:34-11:41

    You see, to get to this point in the Bible, this is what happens in God's amazing story that he is writing, that he is orchestrating.

    Brandon:

    11:41-12:00

    And what happened up to this point is God created the world and he created mankind, but mankind made a mess of everything by failing and sinning and rebelling God's design for life. And so God promised to fix what was broken by sending a rescuer, a true hero, and that rescuer would be Jesus through his death and his resurrection.

    Brandon:

    12:01-12:49

    And so God set that up. He did that by raising up a family, and that family would one day become a nation, and that's where we're at right now in the middle of 2 Samuel. This nation has risen up that will eventually lead to the coming Messiah, Jesus. And that nation, Israel, just got a new king named David. The former king Saul was a colossal failure and God raised up David to replace him and David was awesome. Like when I think of the Bible there's always Jesus for me and he's way at the top but the next person that I would say that I just love to read about in the Bible is David because he was awesome, he was amazing, he killed Goliath, he was brave, he won many battles, he was called a man after God's own heart and David was a hero in this story. David is that we look up to in the Bible.

    Brandon:

    12:50-12:54

    I mean, guys, guys in this room, David is a guy that we should strive to be like.

    Brandon:

    12:54-12:56

    He was a man's man.

    Brandon:

    12:56-13:01

    He was, he killed giants, he was a great shepherd, and you're probably thinking, a shepherd?

    Brandon:

    13:01-13:02

    Dude, what, that's not manly.

    Brandon:

    13:02-13:04

    Well, here's what happened as a shepherd.

    Brandon:

    13:04-13:09

    They would do whatever it took to protect their sheep, and so David, to protect his sheep, once killed a lion.

    Brandon:

    13:10-13:11

    That's manly, right?

    Brandon:

    13:12-13:18

    And so before you knock on him being a shepherd, think about if you haven't killed a lion yourself to protect your sheep, you're not as manly as David.

    Brandon:

    13:18-13:19

    But David was manly.

    Brandon:

    13:19-13:27

    He killed lions, he won battles, he had a best bro named Jonathan, he was a dude's dude, he was a man's man.

    Brandon:

    13:28-13:32

    And ladies in the room, David's kind of a cool guy you could look up to too.

    Brandon:

    13:32-13:37

    He was a musician, he wrote poetry, I mean eat your heart out.

    Brandon:

    13:37-13:41

    I mean this guy, he was the man, and David was the man that women dream about.

    Brandon:

    13:42-13:46

    My wife used to dream about finding the David of her life and God answered her prayer with me.

    Brandon:

    13:47-13:47

    (audience laughing)

    Brandon:

    13:48-13:49

    You are welcome, Danielle.

    Brandon:

    13:51-13:59

    I mean, all the wives in the room, turn to your husband right now and say, "Honey, you are my King David." Tell him, this is gonna make him feel manly, go ahead.

    Brandon:

    14:00-14:02

    But David, David was just an awesome guy.

    Brandon:

    14:02-14:05

    He loved God, he loved to pray, he loved to worship God.

    Brandon:

    14:06-14:10

    He was a king, he was rich, he had a great family, and David had it all.

    Brandon:

    14:11-14:15

    But as we're gonna see today, David is going to fail, and his failure is going to be bad.

    Brandon:

    14:16-14:21

    And it's a failure that we could stop and look and go, "David, you idiot, what were you thinking?

    Brandon:

    14:21-14:22

    How could you do this?

    Brandon:

    14:22-14:39

    You had it all and you're trying to throw it away with what you're doing." But I think as we go throughout this failure of this hero, this guy we hold in the high regard in the Bible and the history of mankind, we're going to learn some things about ourselves and more importantly, we're going to learn some things about God, who God is.

    Brandon:

    14:40-14:45

    We pick up the story in 2 Samuel 11, And this is at the height of David's reign.

    Brandon:

    14:45-14:47

    He had been king for about 20 years right now.

    Brandon:

    14:47-14:48

    He never lost a battle.

    Brandon:

    14:48-14:49

    There was peace.

    Brandon:

    14:49-14:51

    Things were going very, very good.

    Brandon:

    14:51-14:54

    And we pick it up in 2 Samuel 11, verse 1.

    Brandon:

    14:55-15:02

    It says this, "In the spring, at the time when kings go off to war, David sent Joab out with the king's men and the whole Israelite army.

    Brandon:

    15:02-15:14

    They destroyed the Ammonites and besieged Raba, but David remained in Jerusalem." So obviously, this was before March Madness was a big deal because in the spring, instead of playing basketball and watching basketball, the men went out to war.

    Brandon:

    15:15-15:20

    This is part of what they did to make sure things were staying in a good place, people weren't trying to attack them.

    Brandon:

    15:21-15:25

    And what happened is the king would normally go out with his army.

    Brandon:

    15:25-15:31

    So David was supposed to go with his army to go to battle, but David decides to sit this one out for some reason.

    Brandon:

    15:32-15:33

    And so this is David's first mistake.

    Brandon:

    15:33-15:35

    He wasn't where he should have been.

    Brandon:

    15:35-15:44

    He should have been with his men, but he sent Joab off, his first in command after him, to go with a man, and he stayed home when he should have been at, off to war.

    Brandon:

    15:44-15:49

    Next verse, verse 2 says, "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace.

    Brandon:

    15:50-16:04

    From the roof he saw a woman bathing, and the woman was very beautiful." So back then it was customary for the bedroom of a house in that day to be on the second floor of the house, if they had two floors, on the second floor, and that second floor would kind of go out to like a patio type area.

    Brandon:

    16:04-16:08

    So it's like bedroom, you kind of walk out to a patio, there'd be some furniture there you can hang out.

    Brandon:

    16:08-16:14

    And so David gets up from bed, he goes out to the patio, it's evening, and he just goes out to relax on the roof.

    Brandon:

    16:15-16:20

    But what was also customary in that day was on top of that little roof area would be their bathtub.

    Brandon:

    16:20-16:30

    And what they would do is they would fill it with water in the day, and the heat of the day would warm that water up so in the evening they could take a bath, it'd be warm water, it'd feel good, and they'd get cleaned up that way.

    Brandon:

    16:30-16:42

    And so that's happening, but also the thing that's important to notice here that we don't really see in Scripture but that was customary, The king's palace was most likely on a higher piece of ground in that area.

    Brandon:

    16:42-16:46

    So he would go out and he would have a view across his land.

    Brandon:

    16:46-16:49

    And so as he's higher, he could see on people's roofs.

    Brandon:

    16:50-16:52

    They couldn't see him, but he could see them.

    Brandon:

    16:52-16:57

    And he's looking around, he's hanging out, just relaxing, and he sees this woman bathing on her roof.

    Brandon:

    16:58-17:00

    He sees that she's very attractive.

    Brandon:

    17:01-17:04

    And so David looked down, he saw her, saw that she was beautiful.

    Brandon:

    17:04-17:08

    And what David should have done is avert his eyes, go back in and stop staring at this naked woman.

    Brandon:

    17:09-17:11

    But instead, David does this.

    Brandon:

    17:12-17:14

    Verse 3, "And David sent someone to find out about her.

    Brandon:

    17:14-17:26

    The man said back to him, 'She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.'" So the servant comes back to David and tells David, "Her name is Bathsheba." And almost like he gives a warning, he goes, "This is Bathsheba.

    Brandon:

    17:26-17:33

    She's the daughter of Eliam and she's the wife of Uriah the Hittite." You know, the guy who's in your army right now?

    Brandon:

    17:33-17:37

    It's almost like the servant gives David this warning, like, "Hey dude, this is who she is.

    Brandon:

    17:37-17:39

    She's married to somebody else and she's someone else's daughter.

    Brandon:

    17:39-17:45

    You probably shouldn't do that." But the servant can't be that blunt about it because he would probably lose his life if he talked that way to the king.

    Brandon:

    17:46-17:48

    So he just says it kind of that way.

    Brandon:

    17:48-17:51

    "Hey, she's the daughter of somebody else.

    Brandon:

    17:51-17:55

    She's the wife of somebody else." Almost like saying, "Hey, don't do this, David.

    Brandon:

    17:55-18:02

    I know what you're thinking." But David ignores that, gives in to his temptation, and has his messengers go and retrieve Bathsheba.

    Brandon:

    18:02-18:07

    He uses his king powers, which is essentially whatever the king wants, the king gets.

    Brandon:

    18:07-18:10

    And that type of power, he goes, he gets her, and he sleeps with her.

    Brandon:

    18:11-18:18

    And after that, he sends her back home, and David's intent was simply to have a one-night stand with Bathsheba.

    Brandon:

    18:19-18:21

    But Bathsheba sent word back that she was pregnant.

    Brandon:

    18:23-18:25

    Not exactly what David had in mind.

    Brandon:

    18:26-18:27

    David had sinned.

    Brandon:

    18:28-18:29

    The hero has failed.

    Brandon:

    18:29-18:36

    This man after God's own heart gave into his desires, and after that he tries to cover it all up.

    Brandon:

    18:36-18:47

    You see, David sent word to Joab then, and his plan was, you know, where David should have been, he sends word to Joab and says, "Hey, send Uriah, Bathsheba's husband, back here, back home for a little bit.

    Brandon:

    18:47-19:01

    He needs a break." And so his plan was that Uriah would come home from battle, you know, he'd be with his wife, he'd sleep with his wife, then he believed that the kid that she was carrying was his, And so his plan was just to cover it up that way.

    Brandon:

    19:01-19:07

    But the thing is, the thing that David didn't plan on, is that Uriah was actually a pretty upstanding individual.

    Brandon:

    19:07-19:11

    When Uriah came back from battle, his belief was, "You know what?

    Brandon:

    19:11-19:14

    My brothers are back there fighting and risking their lives.

    Brandon:

    19:15-19:17

    I have no right to go home with my wife.

    Brandon:

    19:18-19:20

    So I'm not going to go home and stay and sleep with my wife.

    Brandon:

    19:20-19:25

    I'm going to sleep with my servants, and I'll stay with them." He doesn't go home with his wife.

    Brandon:

    19:26-19:42

    And David's like, "Well, that's kind of not how I plan this." And so David's next plan was the next night, he brings Uriah in and he gets Uriah drunk, thinking that if he gives him enough wine, gets him drunk enough, then he'll stumble home, go to his wife, sleep with his wife, and then again he thinks the child is his, again it's covered up.

    Brandon:

    19:43-19:48

    And so he gets Uriah drunk, but Uriah still had the presence of mind to not go home to his wife.

    Brandon:

    19:49-19:51

    He still didn't go home and sleep with her.

    Brandon:

    19:52-19:57

    And so David's plan to cover up this failure of his is not working.

    Brandon:

    19:58-19:59

    So finally, he takes it a step further.

    Brandon:

    20:00-20:06

    He sends Uriah back to battle with a note, a note that was only for Joab's eyes.

    Brandon:

    20:06-20:16

    And Uriah carries this note, and a note that says to Joab, gives him orders, "Joab, your orders are to put Uriah "at the front of the line where the fighting is fiercest.

    Brandon:

    20:17-20:27

    "And when the time is right, pull the men back "so that Uriah is killed in battle." Uriah carries his death sentence back to Joab.

    Brandon:

    20:28-20:31

    because of what David had done.

    Brandon:

    20:33-20:34

    And that's what happens.

    Brandon:

    20:35-20:38

    Uriah is killed in battle because Jehovah is following his orders.

    Brandon:

    20:38-20:43

    And all this happened because David made a colossal mistake.

    Brandon:

    20:45-20:47

    Look what this hero has done.

    Brandon:

    20:48-20:49

    That's kind of disgusting, right?

    Brandon:

    20:49-20:50

    Because we think of David, we think of awesome.

    Brandon:

    20:51-20:52

    We think of greatness.

    Brandon:

    20:52-20:55

    We think of someone that God has used for amazing things.

    Brandon:

    20:56-21:00

    This is a pretty far fall for a man that God calls a guy after his own heart.

    Brandon:

    21:02-21:03

    The story continues.

    Brandon:

    21:04-21:09

    David thinks he gets away with it, but it continues because God uses someone to call out David.

    Brandon:

    21:09-21:11

    He uses this prophet named Nathan.

    Brandon:

    21:11-21:15

    And Nathan comes to David and he tells David this story.

    Brandon:

    21:15-21:16

    It was King David.

    Brandon:

    21:17-21:18

    There were two men.

    Brandon:

    21:19-21:20

    One man was extremely rich.

    Brandon:

    21:21-21:25

    This guy had cattle, he had sheep, he had wealth, he had it all.

    Brandon:

    21:26-21:28

    He was fine, didn't need anything in life.

    Brandon:

    21:28-21:33

    But there was another man who was very poor, and his family had one little lamb.

    Brandon:

    21:35-21:36

    And this guy took care of this lamb.

    Brandon:

    21:36-21:37

    He fed this lamb.

    Brandon:

    21:38-21:40

    He bathed this lamb.

    Brandon:

    21:40-21:43

    This lamb fell asleep in this man's arms.

    Brandon:

    21:43-21:46

    This was like a family member to this man.

    Brandon:

    21:47-21:55

    And what happened is one day the rich man had some family and friends come into town, and it was customary that he had to provide dinner for them.

    Brandon:

    21:56-22:02

    But the rich man didn't want to use his own sheep and his own cattle to provide dinner for his family.

    Brandon:

    22:02-22:11

    Instead, what he did is he went to the poor man's house, he took the one little lamb that man had, and he killed and provided that lamb for his friend's dinner.

    Brandon:

    22:11-22:16

    And Nathan tells David this story, and David just loses it.

    Brandon:

    22:16-22:17

    He's like, "Are you serious?

    Brandon:

    22:17-22:33

    Please go get that man and have him killed for what he just did?" And Nathan looks at him and says, "David, you're the man." Nathan calls David out with this story to show him, "David, you had it all.

    Brandon:

    22:34-22:37

    And you took this one lamb from this man.

    Brandon:

    22:37-22:38

    That's all he had.

    Brandon:

    22:38-22:46

    You took his wife and you eventually took his life." David's sin was brought into the open thanks to Nathan.

    Brandon:

    22:46-22:50

    And God used Nathan to call out David for his sin, for his failure.

    Brandon:

    22:50-22:57

    after all that cover up, after all that work that David did to make sure he wasn't found out, God still knew and brought that to David's attention.

    Brandon:

    22:57-23:02

    So here is this hero of the Bible, this man after God's own heart in the middle of this epic failure.

    Brandon:

    23:03-23:05

    And the question is, is that it for David?

    Brandon:

    23:06-23:07

    Is it all that God wrote for him?

    Brandon:

    23:07-23:12

    Because God raised him up to this high status, he does this, is God just going to say, "Nope, okay, you're done.

    Brandon:

    23:12-24:06

    You screwed up." Is this someone we should just brush off as just another failure like we all mess up and fail with. Not exactly. You see this failure didn't define David. I think his reaction to this event is what actually better defines him. You see when David finally sees that his sin can't be hidden and that God has seen and knows everything, he finally humbles himself to God and says in 2 Samuel 12 13, "Then David said to Nathan, 'I have sinned against the Lord.'" And David finally realized and accepted the fact that he failed, that he sinned, he had broken his relationship with God no matter how much cover-up he tried to do. And so David did what he needed to do. He chose to do something that God desires. We all fail, we all sin, we all mess up. David practiced repentance. Now repentance is this very churchy word that we use that literally just means to change your mind.

    Brandon:

    24:06-24:26

    You're going one way and you turn back to go the other. You sin, you go away from God, you repent and you go back to God. And David didn't try to act better and a better person. He knew he was broken and only God can help, so he turned away from his selfish desires and turned towards God. And we see David's repentance and worship to God through his writings.

    Brandon:

    24:26-24:42

    Remember when I said that David was a poet, he was a musician? David wrote actually a lot of the Psalms that we find in the Bible. And what's amazing is we actually have David's Psalm that that he wrote out of repentance for this situation in his life in Psalm 51.

    Brandon:

    24:45-24:51

    So David's words were words of recognition and admittance that sin and failure was in his life.

    Brandon:

    24:52-24:57

    They were words of acknowledgment that only God could forgive and only God could give grace and wipe it away.

    Brandon:

    24:57-25:00

    And that grace and forgiveness from God leads David to do one thing.

    Brandon:

    25:01-25:02

    To worship Him.

    Brandon:

    25:04-25:09

    and give praise and give glory to God because it was God who could wipe his slate clean.

    Brandon:

    25:09-25:16

    And it's this attitude that David has, this attitude of humility and repentance to God that sets him apart I think from other people.

    Brandon:

    25:17-25:18

    This is what defines him.

    Brandon:

    25:18-25:22

    His desire for God, even in the midst of his biggest failure, was for God.

    Brandon:

    25:23-25:29

    And God in His grace and forgiveness, He forgives this man who just committed adultery and murder.

    Brandon:

    25:29-26:33

    We see the character of who God is midst of David's character of failure who sought forgiveness from God. Now things weren't perfect from here on out for David. Yeah, his sin was found out, he repented, he worshipped, he wrote that amazing psalm, but there were consequences for David's sin. Just like his parents, there's consequences for our own kids' disobedience. Even though we still love them, there were consequences for David. For one, that child that Bathsheba had through that one-night Stan died at a very young age. On top of that, David's other son Absalom tried to take him out as king so he could rule himself. His own son rebelled against them. And David had this big dream that one day he would build a temple for God where God would dwell, where people would worship God, and God said, "No, I'm not allowing you to do that." So a death, a broken family, and not accomplishing a big dream of his was part of David's consequence out of this which still shows the magnitude of what our sin can do to our lives.

    Brandon:

    26:33-26:34

    But God still forgave David.

    Brandon:

    26:36-26:40

    Now look at this story, and I'm just amazed by how crazy it is.

    Brandon:

    26:41-26:46

    A story of a person in the Bible that is held in high regard, that failed, that screwed up.

    Brandon:

    26:46-26:50

    But here's what I've learned in my life, and here's what I want to remind you of.

    Brandon:

    26:51-26:53

    The first is this, that we are just like David.

    Brandon:

    26:55-27:02

    The first thing I want you to remember in this story is that when we think of David in the Bible, we need to remember that our lives are more similar than his, than we may think.

    Brandon:

    27:03-27:06

    And this is what I mean when I say that we can all relate today.

    Brandon:

    27:06-27:10

    If you are a Christian in this room, you are susceptible to failing just like David did.

    Brandon:

    27:10-27:14

    David had an extremely close relationship with God.

    Brandon:

    27:14-27:17

    He was a man after God's own heart, and he still failed.

    Brandon:

    27:18-27:20

    And if David can fall, so as we as Christ followers.

    Brandon:

    27:22-27:30

    We could worship, we could read scripture, we could pray, but we are still susceptible to giving into our own selfish desires, and we can fail and sin just like David, like a lot of us do.

    Brandon:

    27:30-27:36

    And if you're in this room and you would not label yourself as a Christ follower, first of all, I'm so glad that you're here today.

    Brandon:

    27:36-27:40

    This is an amazing church to be a part of, to understand and know who Jesus is.

    Brandon:

    27:41-27:53

    But I just want to let you know that your struggle with figuring out what's right and wrong, what life is all about, it's a struggle that all of us go through, whether we follow Jesus or not, because we are all just like David. We are all human. We are all susceptible to failing.

    Brandon:

    27:53-28:00

    Sure, you may not be this good-looking, line-killing, poetry-writing king, but you're a human who has sinned like David.

    Brandon:

    28:00-28:08

    Paul writes in Romans 3:23, "For all of us have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And this levels the playing field for all people for all time.

    Brandon:

    28:08-28:16

    So often we compare ourselves with other people based off looks or achievement or relationships that we forget that God doesn't care about that stuff.

    Brandon:

    28:17-28:18

    We forget about that.

    Brandon:

    28:18-28:22

    When God chose David to be the next king, he didn't look at his stature.

    Brandon:

    28:22-28:25

    He didn't look at his achievements, he looked at his heart.

    Brandon:

    28:26-28:28

    And that's the same thing God looks at for all of us.

    Brandon:

    28:28-28:35

    He's looking at our heart because out of our heart will come our words, out of the heart will come our actions, out of our heart comes our worship.

    Brandon:

    28:37-28:39

    But our hearts can be rebellious.

    Brandon:

    28:39-28:41

    We want our own selfish desires that leads to sin.

    Brandon:

    28:42-28:48

    And it's in that way that we are just like David, just like Joe Paterno, just like Lance Armstrong and every other human being has ever walked this planet.

    Brandon:

    28:49-28:51

    We all have a sin problem.

    Brandon:

    28:51-28:56

    And just like David, we probably have people warning us on the path that we're walking.

    Brandon:

    28:56-29:02

    Your David's servant told him that Bathsheba was somebody else's daughter and wife, but David ignored that.

    Brandon:

    29:02-29:05

    And we have people in our lives that warn us with the things that we're doing.

    Brandon:

    29:06-29:11

    We probably have people in our lives that warn us about our anger issues, our addictions, or the way we use our finances.

    Brandon:

    29:11-29:15

    And as an FPU graduate, my wife and I seriously go to that class, it's amazing.

    Brandon:

    29:16-29:19

    We have people who warn us about the path we're heading down.

    Brandon:

    29:19-29:22

    And just like David, we have a tendency to ignore those warnings.

    Brandon:

    29:23-29:23

    Why?

    Brandon:

    29:23-29:28

    Because we have a sin problem and we want what we want, just like David wanted what he wanted.

    Brandon:

    29:28-29:30

    And just like David, we try to cover it up.

    Brandon:

    29:30-29:37

    In the midst of our struggles and failures, we work hard to make sure nobody else sees all the brokenness that's going on inside.

    Brandon:

    29:37-29:43

    When we're struggling with something, we don't want anybody to tell us about it, and we'll do whatever it takes to cover it up.

    Brandon:

    29:44-29:51

    How many times has sin or failure been revealed in our lives or somebody else's lives, and Behind it is a trail of cover up.

    Brandon:

    29:53-29:54

    We don't want anyone else to know.

    Brandon:

    29:55-29:59

    And just like David, we need people in our lives to point out our sin.

    Brandon:

    29:59-30:04

    Nathan did the difficult thing by going to the king and telling the king that he had sinned.

    Brandon:

    30:05-30:07

    But that got David going in the right direction.

    Brandon:

    30:07-30:10

    And as difficult as it was, it turned out for the good.

    Brandon:

    30:11-30:46

    David was even so thankful that later on in life, another son and he named him Nathan. And just like David our sin has consequences. Our sin hurts our relationship with God, our relationship with others, and sin hurts ourselves. And we may not see the consequence at the current moment that we're in this sin, but be assured that consequence is coming in some way shape or form. Just like David we need to realize our own sin. After David had Nathan call out the sin in his life, he had to make the effort to realize and admit it.

    Brandon:

    30:48-30:49

    And that same thing needs to happen for us.

    Brandon:

    30:49-30:56

    The moment we admit to ourselves that we have sin in our lives, that will lead us to the most important part of us understanding that we are like David.

    Brandon:

    30:57-31:00

    And that's this, that our sin doesn't define us.

    Brandon:

    31:01-31:02

    Our reaction to it does.

    Brandon:

    31:04-31:06

    Our sin does not define us.

    Brandon:

    31:07-31:08

    Our reaction to it does.

    Brandon:

    31:08-31:12

    Because just like David, when we realize that there's sin in our lives, we need to do something about it.

    Brandon:

    31:12-31:28

    And what separates David from others his reaction to his sin, he repented and turned to worship God. He knew he could do nothing for his sin, only God could heal, and we need to realize that same thing every single day of our lives. And that's why David's sin didn't define him.

    Brandon:

    31:28-32:10

    That's when we think of David, and we hear about David, and how he's regarded in the history of the rest of Scripture, it's not defined by that colossal failure. It's defined by his heart for God, and this is why your sin doesn't need to define you. So often we're so caught up in the moments of sin that we believe that this is who we are. We believe that we have messed up, we've cheated, we weren't honest, we've covered it up, we've become addicted, and we let these moments define us, but they don't have to. If we understand like David did to repent and turn back to God, then we will find forgiveness and grace, and we will find a God that loves us, who cares for us, the God who wants to give us life that's not defined by our sin, but defined by His grace and mercy.

    Brandon:

    32:12-32:16

    Because in our culture, as humans, we long for redemption.

    Brandon:

    32:17-32:19

    We long for stories of comeback.

    Brandon:

    32:20-32:25

    We long for people who have failed to have a second chance and do better with that chance.

    Brandon:

    32:27-32:29

    We've become a pretty forgiving society, actually.

    Brandon:

    32:30-32:39

    And so we love to see these stories of redemption, because deep inside, seeing Tiger Woods come back and winning another major, it'd be kind of cool to see because he gets his life back together.

    Brandon:

    32:41-32:49

    We want to see people succeed after their mistakes and see redemption happen and see a broken marriage heal again.

    Brandon:

    32:49-32:58

    We want to hear stories of a wife that's about to leave her husband and saved up all this money, but instead her husband and her reconcile and they use that money to pay off debt.

    Brandon:

    32:58-33:06

    We want those stories because those stories speak to us as humans, because that's how God has wired us, because that's who God is.

    Brandon:

    33:07-33:09

    God is a God of a rescue and redemption.

    Brandon:

    33:10-33:13

    He's the God who takes our failure and makes us clean again.

    Brandon:

    33:13-33:18

    He is a God that takes our brokenness, puts us back together, and does amazing things through us.

    Brandon:

    33:20-33:23

    And so we long to see the same thing happen in ourselves and each other.

    Brandon:

    33:24-33:30

    We want to see this because this is the story that God has been writing for thousands and thousands of years.

    Brandon:

    33:32-33:35

    Chapters of redemption to overcome our failure.

    Brandon:

    33:36-33:41

    We wanna see redemption because it's the one thing that we need and it can only be found in Jesus.

    Brandon:

    33:43-33:48

    The reason that story of David's failure is so great is because it's a reflection of God's big story.

    Brandon:

    33:49-33:55

    See, after David repented and God forgave him, God continued his mission to rescue and restore us all.

    Brandon:

    33:56-33:58

    You see, David and Bathsheba actually had more children together.

    Brandon:

    33:59-34:04

    And those children had children, and those children had children, and one of those children was this guy named Solomon.

    Brandon:

    34:05-34:10

    And Solomon took over for his dad David as king after David passed away.

    Brandon:

    34:11-34:18

    And Solomon had children, that lineage continued, and wouldn't you know it, out of that lineage came this guy named Jesus.

    Brandon:

    34:20-34:27

    that Jesus was the ultimate rescuer and restore for the history of mankind.

    Brandon:

    34:29-34:30

    Think about that for a second.

    Brandon:

    34:31-34:49

    God sent his Messiah, his rescuer, through the lineage of adultery, through the history of murder, through lies and corruption by David, he used that relationship and brought about Jesus.

    Brandon:

    34:51-34:52

    That's the God we worship.

    Brandon:

    34:54-34:55

    That's the God we follow.

    Brandon:

    34:57-34:59

    Because He's a God of redemption and rescue.

    Brandon:

    34:59-35:03

    And so maybe it's time for God to do some redemptive work in you.

    Brandon:

    35:04-35:08

    Because if God can forgive David and use him, God can forgive and use you.

    Brandon:

    35:08-35:10

    And so often we're haunted by our past struggles.

    Brandon:

    35:11-35:18

    We're so locked up by the things we're struggling with today that we let them define us instead of letting God define us through Jesus.

    Brandon:

    35:19-35:22

    As Christians, repentance needs to be a continual thing that we do.

    Brandon:

    35:23-35:29

    We're going to sin, we're going to fail, it's going to happen, but God desires us to turn from that anytime it happens and come back to Him.

    Brandon:

    35:30-35:32

    And when we do, there is forgiveness for us.

    Brandon:

    35:32-35:34

    There is redemption waiting for us.

    Brandon:

    35:36-35:40

    And if you're not a Christian, maybe it's time to admit that you need God.

    Brandon:

    35:41-35:46

    That your past failures have broken that relationship between you and God, it's broken that relationship with others.

    Brandon:

    35:46-35:48

    But those failures don't have to define you.

    Brandon:

    35:50-35:56

    When you follow David's example of repentance and forgiveness that comes with it, new life is waiting for you on the other side.

    Brandon:

    35:57-36:04

    A life of being a part of something so much bigger than yourself and so much greater than yourself because of what Jesus has done for us.

    Brandon:

    36:05-36:08

    That's why we're starting this new church in Chartiers Valley, actually.

    Brandon:

    36:10-36:18

    It'd be very easy for Danielle and I to just live in the chapter of failure, live in the chapter of brokenness that's in our life.

    Brandon:

    36:19-36:21

    We're not defined by those moments in our lives.

    Brandon:

    36:22-36:23

    We're defined by Jesus.

    Brandon:

    36:25-36:30

    And we want others to experience that same healing, that same rescue, that same redemption that Jesus brings.

    Brandon:

    36:31-36:34

    And so we're starting this new church in this area of Pittsburgh.

    Brandon:

    36:36-36:38

    'Cause I don't know if you guys know this, Pittsburgh's one of the least church cities in the country.

    Brandon:

    36:40-36:42

    It's one of the least Biblically-minded cities in the country.

    Brandon:

    36:42-36:49

    It's one of the fastest growing post-Christian cultures people are moving further and further away from God.

    Brandon:

    36:50-36:54

    And so we're coming to show them that there is a chapter that God is waiting to write in their lives.

    Brandon:

    36:56-36:56

    It's called forgiveness.

    Brandon:

    36:58-36:58

    It's called redemption.

    Brandon:

    36:59-37:00

    It's called rescue.

    Brandon:

    37:02-37:09

    There are people in Pittsburgh and here in Wexford and Chartier's Valley and all across the city, they're living in the chapter of failure for far too long.

    Brandon:

    37:11-37:15

    And so we're here to set a church to help them realize there's something more waiting for them through Jesus.

    Brandon:

    37:17-37:19

    You see, Harvest, David's story is our story.

    Brandon:

    37:19-37:24

    It's God's big story to restore this relationship with him despite our mistakes, despite our failures.

    Brandon:

    37:25-37:34

    And when we understand the great lengths he went to to do that for us, it will lead us to a life of worship, a life that's about following and living for Christ.

    Brandon:

    37:35-37:44

    And when we understand and live this out, amazing things are going to happen in our lives, in our families, in our communities, in our churches, in Pittsburgh and all across the world.

    Brandon:

    37:46-37:55

    Amazing things take place when we live out this truth together, that we are not defined by our sin, we are defined by our reaction to it.

    Brandon:

    37:55-37:58

    And my reaction to my sin is Jesus.

    Brandon:

    37:59-38:00

    I hope yours is too.

    Brandon:

    38:01-38:04

    We all sin, let's not be defined by it.

    Brandon:

    38:05-38:08

    Let's live lives of rescue and redemption because of what God has done.

    Brandon:

    38:09-38:09

    Let's pray.

    Brandon:

    38:11-38:15

    God, thank You so much for this morning to come and be a part of this amazing church.

    Brandon:

    38:15-38:31

    God, I pray for the people of Harvest, Pittsburgh North, that they continue to realize that they don't have to be defined by their failures and their struggles, they can be defined by You, what You are doing in their lives through Jesus and through Your Holy Spirit.

    Brandon:

    38:33-38:39

    God, I pray that You write new chapters in all of us here of rescue and forgiveness and redemption.

    Brandon:

    38:39-38:46

    And God, You write chapters of purpose living out our mission to love people like you've called us to love, and for people to know who you are.

    Brandon:

    38:48-38:55

    And I pray that Wexford continues to change because of the chapters you are writing in the people's lives at Harvard's Bible Chapel, Pittsburgh North, God.

    Brandon:

    38:55-38:59

    And I pray you do the same thing for one church as we're kicking that off in Charters Valley.

    Brandon:

    38:59-39:02

    God, we thank you for David, who is just like us.

    Brandon:

    39:03-39:04

    Remind us of that daily, God.

    Brandon:

    39:05-39:09

    Remind us that in the midst of our failures, we can turn back to you.

    Brandon:

    39:10-39:12

    And we thank you for Jesus who came from that lineage.

    Brandon:

    39:14-39:15

    Let's pray, amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read 2 Samuel 11:1-3 and 2 Samuel 12:1-13

  1. Ice Breaker: What was something you always got in trouble for when you were a kid?

  2. What stood out from the message and why?

  3. For some people we remember their failures first, for others we remember their achievements while often times overlooking their failures. From your perspective, why do we do that?

  4. David is one person we tend to view in a positive light despite doing some really bad things. In 2 Samuel 11 what were key elements that caused David to fail so bad?

  5. In 2 Samuel 12:1-13, what were the causes of David moving towards redemption?

  6. We're not so different from David. What causes David to see redemption is his reaction to his failure. Brandon said, "Our failure doesn't define us, our reaction to it does."
    What did he mean by that in reference to David’s situation? How does that relate to your life?

  7. David's repentance led him to worship God by writing Psalm 51. What does (or should) your repentance lead you to do?

  8. We serve and believe in a God that loves redemption. How do you see God using you to bring redemption to you and those around you?

Breakout Questions:
Pray for one another.

Questions from the Congregation - Part 7

Note: The time signatures [00:00] below indicate the start of a question if you'd like to skip to a particular one of interest in the audio file.

  1. [06:36] - Q: What has been Harvest's response (both here and Chicago) to the growing ecumenical movement (unity movement, Manhattan declaration, etc) and evangelical Christian pastors who've signed onto it? Should we stop listening to pastors and Christian bands who've been taking part of this (People that have spread the gospel but have made weird declarations that go against Sola Scriptura). The more oddities I hear, the more I fear having my ear tickled and thinking I am being fed, when in actuality, they're wolf in sheep's clothing.
     

  2. [10:43] - Q: What does the Bible say about worshipping God as a congregation on Sunday versus Saturday? Why has there been a shift in churches offering both Sunday and Saturday services? Is this Biblical?
    A: See Acts 20:7 - On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together...
     

  3. [20:18] - Q: What is up with the thousand years? What is the purpose and why or when is Satan released?
    A: See Revelation 20:1-10
     

  4. [21:55] - Q: Why does God allow Satan to exist? Why can't Satan be destroyed and killed? Then there would be forever peace on earth.
    A: See 2 Corinthians 12:1  |  Job 1-2 |  Revelation 20:10
     

  5. [25:21] - Q: In Numbers 13:33, the scouts that Moses sent into the Promised Land reported, "We saw Nephilim there…" How did the Nephilim survive the flood of Noah's time?
    A: See: Joshua 15:14 - And Caleb drove out from there the three sons of Anak, Sheshai and Ahiman and Talmai, the descendants of Anak.
     

  6. [30:00] - Q: In Matthew 27:52-53, when Jesus was crucified and died, it says, "The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people." Besides the fact that this represented a miraculous sign (like the tearing of the temple curtain) drawing attention to Jesus' resurrection, is there some significance to this event? It seems odd to me that we frequently hear about the temple curtain, the daytime darkness, and the earthquake that accompanied Christ's death, but this raising of the dead is rarely mentioned.
     

  7. [37:46] - Q: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 seems to indicate that women are not permitted to speak in church. What is the correct interpretation and application of this passage?
    A: See 1 Timothy 2:12-1

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  • Pastor Jeff:

    00:00-00:01

    Why don't you tell everybody what's going on today?

    Mark Ort:

    00:02-00:08

    Well, today is Q&A day, and it's become quite a tradition here at Harvest.

    Mark Ort:

    00:08-00:09

    What do we do, twice a year or something like that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:09-00:11

    Yeah, we usually do about twice a year.

    Mark Ort:

    00:11-00:12

    Yeah, it's one of my favorite days.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:12-00:14

    Me too, because I can sit down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:14-00:14

    Yeah,

    Mark Ort:

    00:15-00:18

    I'll tell you what, these chairs are so much better than sitting on those hard stools.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:18-00:20

    Yeah, they really are.

    Mark Ort:

    00:20-00:20

    Yeah, these are great.

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:21-00:35

    You know, I talked to so many people this morning that said, "I did not sleep well at all last night." Like, did you ever hear, like, who said that? "I didn't sleep very well last night." All right, so don't fall asleep, no matter how comfortable the chairs are.

    Mark Ort:

    00:35-00:38

    You're not going to fall asleep because we have some really good questions this time.

    Mark Ort:

    00:39-00:43

    And typically, we don't always do Q&A, right?

    Mark Ort:

    00:43-00:47

    If there's a guest here, we don't have this format every time.

    Mark Ort:

    00:47-00:52

    What do we normally do on a Sunday morning, and what do we have going on in the month of July?

    Pastor Jeff:

    00:52-01:10

    Well, normally, and we just actually covered this last week in Acts 20, Paul told the Ephesian elders, "I didn't shrink back to declare to you the whole counsel of God." So typically, we take a passage of Scripture and walk through it verse by verse.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:10-01:12

    And we've done that over the last five years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:12-01:13

    We've gone through the book of Mark.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:13-01:18

    We've gone through Acts, several of the Old Testament prophets, Philippians, Colossians.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:18-01:24

    So we typically, verse by verse, through the Bible, what is God communicating to us?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:24-01:26

    So this is a little break from the norm.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:26-01:29

    So if you're visiting with us today, this isn't what we do every week.

    Mark Ort:

    01:30-01:31

    What's going on in July?

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:32-01:37

    Oh, in July? I have a real treat for you in July. I'm not speaking.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:39-01:44

    We have four absolutely incredible guest speakers that are going to be coming in July.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:45-01:51

    First of all, next week is going to be Brandon Stevenson, who is a...

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:51-01:56

    I want to call him a kid, because he was like a kid in the youth group at my old church, but he's not a kid anymore.

    Pastor Jeff:

    01:57-02:03

    He's married and has three kids, and he's been a youth pastor out in Wisconsin, and he's gonna be planting a church down in Bridgeville, I believe.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:04-02:09

    But he's gonna be next week, and then the week after, Alex--

    Mark Ort:

    02:09-02:10

    Is he younger than you?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:11-02:11

    Oh, yeah. - Oh,

    Mark Ort:

    02:11-02:12

    he's a kid.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:12-02:16

    Oh, yeah, he was a, yeah, yeah, yeah, legitimate, legitimate.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:17-02:24

    Then Alex Gianetti's going to be speaking the week after that, and it's going to tie in wonderfully with the Financial Peace University.

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:24-02:28

    And then who's speaking the following week?

    Pastor Jeff:

    02:28-02:28

    I don't

    Mark Ort:

    02:28-02:29

    really know.

    Mark Ort:

    02:29-02:31

    I mean, it's a little sketchy.

    Mark Ort:

    02:32-02:33

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is sketchy, it's you.

    Mark Ort:

    02:34-02:36

    Yeah, it is me.

    Mark Ort:

    02:36-02:38

    And you're speaking on King Asa?

    Mark Ort:

    02:38-02:40

    I am speaking on King Asa.

    Mark Ort:

    02:40-02:40

    I love the Old Testament.

    Mark Ort:

    02:41-02:46

    And when I get up to speak, I'm usually just gonna speak on things that I've been studying.

    Mark Ort:

    02:47-02:49

    So I've been in the Kings.

    Mark Ort:

    02:49-02:52

    I've been in 1 and 2 Samuel for a little bit.

    Mark Ort:

    02:52-02:53

    So I thought, you know what?

    Mark Ort:

    02:54-02:57

    I love the story of King Asa, so we're going to have a lesson on King Asa.

    Mark Ort:

    02:57-03:00

    There's some pretty cool things that we can learn about the life of Asa

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:00-03:02

    and seeking God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:03-03:04

    Amen. I'm excited about

    Mark Ort:

    03:04-03:04

    that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:05-03:16

    And then July 30th, I'm actually going to be speaking at Harvest Pittsburgh East because Pastor Jeremiah Canfield from that church is going to be speaking here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:17-03:21

    And he's going to be doing a message regarding homosexuality.

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:22-03:30

    and i would encourage you to uh... circle that date on your calendar bring people you know that uh...

    Pastor Jeff:

    03:31-04:08

    have had questions about that because that's something that the church really gets really gets wrong a lot either it's you know either we respond with hatred you know which is totally uh... wrong and unbiblical or we respond with uh... a complete embracing of the sin that's also wrong and unbiblical. So he's going to be addressing that. We love everybody no matter the sin, the tendency that they have, but we can't as a church just say, we just pretend that the Bible doesn't address it the way that it does.

    Mark Ort:

    04:08-04:21

    Yeah, the first time I heard Jeremiah speak was actually that sermon, and it was at Harvest University. And I wasn't going to go to the class, and I thought "Ah, maybe I should probably go." And I was glad I went.

    Mark Ort:

    04:22-04:35

    Anybody who went to that, when they left, there wasn't a dry eye because you were convicted so badly on your sin of how, basically how the church treats the homosexual community.

    Mark Ort:

    04:35-04:39

    So it's gonna be a fantastic lesson for our whole church.

    Mark Ort:

    04:39-04:39

    I can't wait.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:41-04:41

    Absolutely.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:42-04:47

    So without further ado, you wanna get to some questions and answers?

    Mark Ort:

    04:47-04:48

    >> Yeah, let's go for it.

    Mark Ort:

    04:48-04:49

    >> Is everybody else

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:49-04:49

    ready?

    Mark Ort:

    04:50-04:52

    >> So how is this going to work?

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:52-04:53

    >> Okay, here's how it's going to work.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:53-04:56

    I'm going to run around to people the rules so that you can write this down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:56-04:56

    Here are the rules.

    Pastor Jeff:

    04:58-05:04

    We are going to answer the question according to how we interpret the question being asked.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:05-05:12

    Meaning we're going to take the question at face value and we're going to answer it how we think, how we think, excuse me, that you're asking it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:12-05:21

    So if you're like, no, that's not what I meant by that, we're doing our best because these came in through, you know, slips of paper in a fishbowl, they came in through the online forum.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:23-05:25

    >> And you're going to pass a microphone around too, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:25-05:27

    >> Yeah, that's something else I'm going to get to.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:27-05:33

    Hang on. The unanswered questions that we don't get to today are going to end up on a blog on our website.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:34-05:38

    And that is the new thing we're going to try today.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:39-05:40

    This might be the first -- >> That's kind of scary.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:40-05:45

    >> It is a little scary, but this might be the first and last time we try this, depending on how it goes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:46-05:48

    But Corinne has a wireless microphone.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:48-05:52

    So we're going to answer some of the questions that were submitted online and in the fish bowl here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:52-05:57

    And then we're gonna give you an opportunity, you can ask a question like now, just raise your hand.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:57-05:58

    And we're all friends here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    05:59-06:00

    Okay, don't be shy, you can ask anything.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:01-06:05

    Corinne will come and you can ask your question right here on the spot.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:05-06:08

    Maybe you have a follow-up question to one of the things that we address here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:08-06:11

    So we'll get a few questions in and give you that opportunity.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:12-06:17

    And it's a lot less scary for me knowing that you're up here with me, because you've dealt with this stuff forever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:18-06:18

    So --

    Mark Ort:

    06:18-06:22

    >> Well, as usual, we have some really good questions this time.

    Mark Ort:

    06:22-06:22

    >> Yes, we do.

    Mark Ort:

    06:22-06:23

    Wait, we've got

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:23-06:24

    to set our timer, too.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:24-06:26

    How long are we going to do this?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:27-06:28

    >> As long as you want.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:28-06:30

    >> So let's say, what do you think, 30 minutes?

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:30-06:31

    Is that good?

    Mark Ort:

    06:32-06:33

    >> That sounds good.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:33-06:34

    >> Yeah, let's do 30 minutes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:34-06:34

    All right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    06:35-06:36

    On your mark, get set, go.

    06:36-06:36

    >>

    Mark Ort:

    06:36-06:37

    All right.

    Mark Ort:

    06:37-06:52

    Question number one, what has been Harvest's response, both here and at Chicago, to the growing ecumenical movement, unity movement, Manhattan Declaration, et cetera, and evangelical Christian pastors who've signed onto it?

    Mark Ort:

    06:53-07:04

    Should we stop listening to pastors and Christian bands who've been taking part of this, people that have spread the gospel but have made weird declarations that go against sola scriptura?

    Mark Ort:

    07:04-07:14

    The more oddities I hear, the more I fear having my ears tickled and thinking I'm being fed, when in actuality, they're wolves in sheep's clothing.

    Mark Ort:

    07:15-07:17

    So maybe a couple of definitions there.

    Mark Ort:

    07:17-07:22

    What is the ecumenical movement, and what kind of response have we had from our church in Chicago?

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:23-07:26

    I haven't heard of anything from Big Harvest regarding this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:26-07:54

    And when people talk about the ecumenical movement, you know, what they're talking about there typically is, Every church is just sort of signing on to say, look, we all agree, we believe in the same thing, all churches are the same, whether you're Catholic or Mormon or whatever, Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopalian, we're all kind of the same, and it doesn't really matter what you believe about anything, doctrine's not important.

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:54-07:54

    As

    Mark Ort:

    07:54-07:56

    long as you sincerely believe it, right?

    Mark Ort:

    07:56-07:56

    As long as

    Pastor Jeff:

    07:56-08:00

    you sincerely believe, it doesn't really matter what you believe, let's just all get along.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:00-08:03

    And the problem with that is it compromises doctrine.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:03-08:07

    You know, you'll have churches that say, everybody's going to end up in heaven.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:07-08:12

    It doesn't matter really what you believe if you've embraced Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior personally.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:14-08:17

    But I haven't heard anything from Big Harvest in responding to this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:17-08:24

    But the question here, should we stop listening to pastors and Christian bands who've been taking part of this?

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:24-08:27

    You know, that's a really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:27-08:53

    honestly as a pastor I can't tell you what preachers you should or shouldn't listen to, what bands you should or shouldn't listen to. We're not going to have a list and saying these bands are acceptable to listen to and these are not. I would tell you that you should use discernment and always evaluate the message whether it's the band, whether it's the pastor, whatever. Listen to the message. Does the message, you know that's Sola Scriptura, Does the message come from the Word of God?

    Pastor Jeff:

    08:55-09:06

    And I would say a word of caution though, if you have a band or a pastor that sort of signed on to this ecumenical movement, I think you should listen with extra discernment to somebody like that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:06-09:08

    You know, how that's coming out in their message.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:09-09:11

    Are they still proclaiming the gospel as it's presented in the Bible?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:12-09:14

    And I tell people to do that when I preach.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:15-09:22

    Like, any time I get up and preach, you should have your Bible open, and you should be filtering everything that I say through the Word of God.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:22-09:26

    Is what Jeff's saying, is he saying what the Bible says?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:26-09:29

    Is he echoing what the Bible says?

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:29-09:35

    You should do that, whether it's me, whether it's you, any of our guest speakers, anybody you hear on the radio.

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:37-09:39

    You should filter everything through the Bible.

    Mark Ort:

    09:39-09:41

    Yeah, so the key is discernment.

    Mark Ort:

    09:41-09:58

    And I've heard pastors like John MacArthur say that they feel that the biggest problem that they have in their church is lack of discernment. And discernment is definitely the key there. We need to be in our Bibles, we need to be studying so that we know that what you're saying is right. Right,

    Pastor Jeff:

    09:59-10:27

    yeah, and you know it's funny though because you almost want to hear the message from the pastor or the band without digging too deep sometimes because you know we found that if you really start digging deep into the some biography or history of some of these people, you're going to find something that's a red flag. You know, like, "Well, I don't listen to that band because, you know, back in the '80s, that bass player never rewound the VHS tapes before he returned them to Blockbuster.

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:27-10:43

    And I, you know, I can't support a band that would have such a flagrant disregard for the rules or whatever." But you'll find something that you're like, "Eh, I don't really quite agree with that, whether it's big or small. So I would say everything that comes out, use discernment when you hear the message.

    Mark Ort:

    10:43-10:43

    That's good.

    Mark Ort:

    10:44-10:56

    Question two, what does the Bible say about worshiping God as a congregation on Sunday versus Saturday? Why has there been a shift in churches offering both Sunday and Saturday services? Is this even biblical?

    Pastor Jeff:

    10:57-11:59

    Right, well, there's a misconception that Sunday is Sabbath, and it's not. According to the Bible, the Sabbath is actually Saturday. You work for six days and rest on the seventh. And what happened in the early church was the early church would actually start meeting to worship on Sunday simply because that was the day of the week that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. So that was like party day. It was like weekly anniversary, right? It makes sense. This is our weekly anniversary. Hey, remember that time Jesus rose from the dead and gave us eternal life? And there's a big shift there in the church for, you know, the worship to focused on a Sunday, and actually a couple weeks ago we saw the earliest recorded church service in record, and that's from Acts chapter 20 verse 7, when there was a story, remember Eutychus falling out the window? Well, in that passage you see they worshipped on Sunday, they had communion together, there was preaching, there was very long preaching, and you see some

    11:59-12:15

    elements of some of the earliest recorded church service. So what about worshipping on Saturday. Is it wrong? Is it unbiblical? Is it sinful? I think a lot of churches have done it just simply to accommodate schedules. You know, people are busy.

    12:15-12:30

    There's a lot of people that have to travel for different things, whether it's hobby or work or whatever, and they're unable to make a Sunday morning church but they can do a Saturday night. And there's nothing inherently sinful or wrong about

    Pastor Jeff:

    12:30-12:55

    that. In fact, Romans - jot these references down - Romans 14, 5, Colossians 2 16 both of those passages of the New Testament say there's no day of the week that's more holy than another day. You know Sunday's not like a mystical day like this is the holy day the other days of the week are just kind of like blue-collar you know kind of days it's every day is equally holy unto the Lord.

    Mark Ort:

    12:56-13:09

    One of the things that you know that I've been praying for is for our for our seats to get all filled. So if we fill all these seats, we may go to multiple services on a Sunday, we may have to do a Saturday service.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:09-13:13

    Yeah, I'm praying that the day comes for this church that we have a Saturday service.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:13-13:22

    I'm praying that happens, and I know some of our other leaders are praying for that too. So yeah, there's nothing sinful or wrong with it at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:22-13:26

    Like in Thailand, you know when churches, the church is when you show up.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:26-13:35

    like Barnabas will roll into town, and anytime I'd been with him, he just sort of shows up in town, comes to the church, and here comes everybody.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:36-13:45

    It's like, "Okay, we're going to worship and we're going to pray now." And it doesn't matter if it's midnight on a Tuesday or 3 in the afternoon on a Friday.

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:47-13:49

    Whenever the preacher shows up, we're going to have church.

    13:50-13:50

    Do

    Mark Ort:

    13:50-13:51

    you want to go to number 3, or do you want to take a question?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:53-13:55

    Yeah, does anybody have a... let's stop now. Does anybody have a question?

    Pastor Jeff:

    13:57-13:59

    I saw Justin first, and then we'll do Levi.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:01-14:04

    Is there any of these questions that we don't answer here, like I said, we'll put them on the blog.

    Audience Question 1:

    14:06-14:09

    So I just had a follow-up on what you guys were just talking about.

    Audience Question 1:

    14:09-14:14

    How does that tie into the commandment to keep the Sabbath day holy?

    Audience Question 1:

    14:14-14:18

    Because once we get into Saturday and Sunday, it's like, what day is the Sabbath?

    Audience Question 1:

    14:18-14:19

    What am I even supposed to do here?

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:19-14:19

    Right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:20-14:21

    That's a really, really, really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:22-14:28

    First of all, as far as the Ten Commandments go, like keeping the Sabbath, that was for the nation of Israel for a season.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:30-14:34

    And Jesus Christ fulfilled the law, so we are not bound by the Sabbath.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:35-14:44

    In fact, Hebrews 4, if you jot that reference down, Hebrews 4 says that we live in the Sabbath rest of Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Jeff:

    14:44-15:15

    So literally, for us, every day is the Sabbath, because Christ has accomplished, He's fulfilled the law, accomplished to work. But no, you can't use that as an excuse to not show up to work. Like, you know, every day is a Sabbath for me, so I, you know, that's not an excuse. But yeah, we don't, we're not bound to keep the Sabbath like Old Testament Israel was. In fact, New Testament, you don't see any commands about keeping the Sabbath, especially for Gentiles. You know, that was never for us.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:16-15:22

    That was for Old Testament Israel during the season of the law, and it was fulfilled in Christ. So that's a really good question. It is a

    Mark Ort:

    15:22-15:33

    great question, Justin, and isn't it true that that's the only commandment of the Ten Commandments that's not reissued or spoken of in the New Testament?

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:33-15:58

    Right, yeah, you can see parallels in the New Testament for things like murder, obviously, and lying and stealing, but yeah, you don't see that repeated in the New Testament. You don't see anything in Paul's letters about "keep the Sabbath." You don't see anything from John. You just don't see anything in the New Testament that says, "Thou shalt not work on the Sabbath." That was for Old Testament Israel. Like I said, the best passage in the New Testament about the Sabbath is Hebrews chapter 4.

    Pastor Jeff:

    15:59-16:00

    So Levi had a question.

    Audience Question 2:

    16:01-16:58

    So my question would have to do with this following scenario. So say for example there is an unreached group of people. This is maybe more towards the first question actually. So say there's an unreached group of people in the world, you know there's lots of them. Don't have the Bible, never heard of Jesus, but they have a sort of like a reverence for a whatever a higher power would be. Totally. And I'm not saying like, "Oh yeah, Islam is the same God as Christianity and that's the same as, you know, the Hindu gods," you know. Right. But I'm saying, would their reverence for that higher power, could that be the actual real true God? And is there, what does the Bible have to say about that situation? Does that make sense?

    Pastor Jeff:

    16:58-18:56

    Oh, that makes total sense, yeah. Your answer is going to be actually in Romans chapter 1. It says that, you know, God has revealed himself to everyone through through general revelation so that people are without excuse. Now, what that means is you can tell that a God exists just because of how awesome creation is. You look at a sunset on a beach and you're just, you've all been there just like, "Wow, God is awesome." And that sense of God's awesomeness, His creative power that He's revealed in creation, that's meant to drive us to understand there's a God out there to whom I'm accountable. And in that scenario, and I know missionaries personally that have been through, they, without God, you know, they didn't have a Bible sitting on the shelf, but I know missionaries personally that were like, "God, I know you're up there, I know there's a divine being up there, and I want to know who you are." And lo and behold, the Lord sends missionaries to share the gospel with them and give Bibles. And I've heard so many stories of, you know, these missionaries show up they said we want to tell you about the God who created you and what he's done for you and these tribal people are like we've been waiting for you we knew that God was going to send somebody to tell us who he was because we've been seeking him so yeah Romans chapter 1 says that people are without excuse because God has revealed himself to everyone now the issue is how you respond to that you know for somebody so I don't want to be accountable to God, I don't want anything to do with God, I want to live my own life," and you're bringing condemnation on yourself. But for the person that says, "I want to know my Creator, I just I want to know the truth of who He is," God's going to bring that person the specific direct revelation from His Word concerning himself. Does that make sense? Mark, would you add anything to that?

    18:57-18:57

    I

    Mark Ort:

    18:57-18:58

    think you did a fantastic job answering.

    Pastor Jeff:

    18:58-19:21

    Yeah, Romans 1 is really the answer there. It says people are without excuse because God has revealed himself universally through general revelation which drives us to know him through his word. That's Psalm 19, same thing, right? You know, the heavens declare the glory of God, then he gets into talking about how awesome God's Word is. Same thing, you got to respond to the light that God's shining on you.

    Mark Ort:

    19:22-19:32

    And we covered this in Acts a long time ago in Acts 4.12. There's no name which which is given unto man, by which we must be saved.

    Mark Ort:

    19:32-19:33

    And that's the name Jesus Christ.

    Mark Ort:

    19:33-19:39

    So people need to put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ to be saved, there is no other way.

    Mark Ort:

    19:40-19:50

    And so I believe that God will reveal that to them if they're genuinely seeking for the true God.

    Mark Ort:

    19:50-20:07

    And God, as Jeff mentioned, you look outside, it's a beautiful day, and you look at the Grand Canyon the Niagara Falls. For the birth of a baby. Birth of a baby. All these things that you've got to say like there is a God somewhere. There is a God. And who are you Lord?

    Mark Ort:

    20:07-20:07

    This

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:07-20:09

    isn't an accident. Yeah. Absolutely.

    Mark Ort:

    20:10-20:11

    I believe he's going to reveal himself.

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:12-20:17

    All right let's get through a couple of these questions here and give people more time to think.

    Mark Ort:

    20:17-20:20

    Yep. Number three on our sheet. What's up with a thousand years?

    Mark Ort:

    20:21-20:28

    What is the purpose and why or when is Satan released? I need to be refreshed on this? The thousand years Revelation

    Pastor Jeff:

    20:28-21:12

    chapter 20 verses 1 through 10 that refers to the millennial kingdom of Jesus Christ and this is actually all through the Old Testament and it's fulfilled we see Revelation chapter 20 it's yet future where we sit in history currently but there's going to come a day where Jesus Christ is going to return the events of Revelation are going to unfold, but he's going to establish a literal 1,000 year reign on the earth. And I believe it's literal because in Revelation chapter 20, the first seven verses, six times it says a thousand years, a thousand years, and you know I have no reason to think it's anything but a thousand years. How clear is

    Mark Ort:

    21:12-21:12

    that?

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:12-21:24

    How clear is that? Yeah, yeah, six times God said it in seven verses. And he's going to show this is what life was meant to be on the earth, with God as the king, with God as the ruler, with God as the government for a thousand years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:24-21:30

    Could you imagine that? For a thousand years, God is going to be the government because Jesus Christ is going to reign.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:31-21:42

    And then at the end of that thousand years, Satan's released, actually, the Bible says in Revelation, he's bound for those thousand years so that he may not deceive the nations any longer.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:42-21:47

    So he's bound and he sort of let off his leash at the end of the thousand years.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:47-21:51

    And he mounts one final assault against Christ and his people.

    Pastor Jeff:

    21:51-21:54

    And spoiler alert, that does not end well for Satan.

    Mark Ort:

    21:56-21:57

    All right, let's move on to number four.

    Mark Ort:

    21:58-22:00

    Why does God allow Satan to exist?

    Mark Ort:

    22:02-22:03

    Why can't Satan be destroyed and killed?

    Mark Ort:

    22:04-22:06

    Then there would be forever peace on earth.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:06-22:07

    That is a really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:09-22:11

    And why does God allow Satan to exist?

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:11-22:20

    Well, Satan and a third of his angels-- they were all angels, originally Satan and the demons-- and they were created by God, and they chose to rebel.

    Pastor Jeff:

    22:20-23:35

    Now God would have been completely justified when they chose to rebel. He would have been completely justified to be like, "Poof, you're dust." But He has chosen in His sovereignty to allow them to continue to exist. And I've been asked this question many times, you know, "Why does God allow this if Satan's so wicked and he's so destructive? Why doesn't God do something about it?" And the answer is, "Oh, He will." Just set your timer for like 15 minutes because those events in Revelation chapter 20, it's going to happen and Satan is actually going to be tormented in hell. You know when I was a kid, how many people, I'm showing our age here, watch Tom and Jerry or one of those old like Looney Tunes cartoons? I like everybody, praise the Lord. But there's a problem with that. They would always depict hell as this place where Satan was the king, you know? Like he's sitting on a throne and he's got his little scepter and Satan's the king. Satan is not the king of hell. He is suffering torment for his rebellion against God for eternity when that day comes just like everyone else who's rejected Jesus Christ. So in the meantime, you know, a couple good references to jot down.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:35-23:48

    2 Corinthians chapter 12 and Job chapters 1 & 2. Here's why God God allows Satan to exist because Satan is working for God, unknowingly.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:48-23:51

    Satan thinks that he's going to bring destruction.

    Pastor Jeff:

    23:51-24:01

    Satan thinks that he's going to destroy and ruin God's plans, but God uses Satan's evil to bring good.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:01-24:04

    You saw it with Job, like I said, Job 1 and 2.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:05-24:09

    Paul talks about the thorn in the flesh, 2 Corinthians 12, a messenger of Satan.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:11-24:23

    Satan wants to bring harm and God says, "I'm going to use evil to bring about good." God always spoils Satan's plans and ends up using him to accomplish divine, gloriously good purposes.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:23-24:28

    So yeah, God's allowing Satan for now.

    Pastor Jeff:

    24:30-25:03

    And something else to think about too is the fact that God has allowed Satan and evil to exist, he's allowed it because that's also afforded us as a human race the opportunity to know some things about God that we wouldn't otherwise. You know, things like compassion and mercy and grace. Those are things that we wouldn't know about God if we didn't live in a world that at the present time is dominated by sin and suffering and death. So God's using it to reveal how good he is.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:03-25:03

    And we

    Mark Ort:

    25:03-25:07

    can know him as our Redeemer and not just our Creator.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:07-25:18

    Amen, yeah. Yeah, that's an excellent point. We would not know that God is a Savior if we didn't, you know, live in a world of suffering and sin and death.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:19-25:20

    So he's allowed it for his purposes.

    Mark Ort:

    25:22-25:24

    All right, this is a tough one. Number five.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:24-25:25

    Yeah, let's skip this one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:30-25:32

    Yeah, I spent like hours reading about this one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:32-25:33

    We're not skipping it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:34-25:35

    Even if the alarm goes off, we're not skipping this one.

    Mark Ort:

    25:36-25:46

    All right, in Numbers 13, 33, the scouts that Moses sent into the promised land reported, "We saw Nephilim there.

    Mark Ort:

    25:47-25:53

    "How did the Nephilim survive the flood of Noah's time?" - That is a really, really good question.

    Mark Ort:

    25:53-25:54

    And a really hard one.

    Mark Ort:

    25:54-25:54

    That is a really hard question.

    Mark Ort:

    25:54-25:55

    You got this one.

    Pastor Jeff:

    25:57-26:09

    I did a lot of reading about these guys There's a lot, there are so many schools of thought about who exactly these people were, these giants, these mighty men of renown.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:10-26:17

    And there's four major scholarly views on who they were.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:18-26:26

    Well, jot some references down and then I'm going to tell you, answering this question directly without opening a hole.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:27-26:32

    Because we could spend weeks just studying this, so much work has gone into this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:32-26:41

    But the Anakim from Anak was a race of giants that were said to be descendants of the Nephilim.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:42-26:44

    It's referenced here in the Numbers 13 passage.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:45-26:49

    They lived in south Canaan, particularly in Hebron.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:50-26:54

    And when you get to Joshua chapter 15, I love this passage, Caleb is an old man.

    Pastor Jeff:

    26:55-27:10

    and Joshua, Israel's taking over the promised land, and here's Caleb, this old man, he's like, "Give me the biggest and the toughest, and I'm going to tear them apart." And Caleb ended up going after these giants in South Canaan.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:11-27:20

    And at that point, they were known by three sons, or three tribes, which is Ahimon, Tammai, and Shishai.

    Pastor Jeff:

    27:22-28:17

    So you see, my point in sharing all that is you see throughout the Old Testament these giants, these descendants of giants are mentioned. Most famous giant in the Bible, who was it? Go ahead, shout it out. Goliath, right? Okay, so there were some giants, some big men. But what about the question here, like I said, we could talk about so many different things about these, but I'm going to answer this question specifically, "How did they survive the flood of Noah's time?" The answer is they didn't, because the Bible says that all landflesh was destroyed by the flood except for Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their three wives. So what about this reference to them when we get to Numbers chapter 13, because that was after the flood, and there's a couple schools of thought there things to think about. One is, keep in mind this was the report of the spies.

    Pastor Jeff:

    28:18-29:07

    So some people think that, a couple things that really make sense to me, one is they were exaggerating the Giants and they were using something that all the Israelites would have been familiar with. Like they come back from scouting out the land, "There's Giants there!" Like what kind of Giants? "Well do you remember like before the flood the Giants, like those kind of people were living there. It was exaggeration of what they saw. Another school of thought is that the name was reused after the flood. Before the flood there were giants named the Nephilim, and after the flood there was another race of giants that obviously came from Hamshem and Japheth, and they attached that name again to another race of people, which totally makes sense. We were talking about this yesterday.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:08-29:13

    Like, think of how many cities in America are just named after cities in Europe, right?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:13-29:18

    You know, like I used to live in Ohio and I used to see signs all the time for London, Ohio.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:19-29:22

    And I thought, well, that's, you know, here we're celebrating our independence.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:22-29:27

    And think back to that day, we're breaking away from England and we're going to be our own country.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:27-29:29

    And okay, what do you want to name this city?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:29-29:31

    Let's name it England, let's name it London.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:31-29:35

    And, you know, we like to reuse names a lot.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:35-29:37

    How many Newcastles are there?

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:37-29:53

    New York, right. So I think, you know, one good possibility is they reused the name from the Giants before the flood. I don't think anybody survived the flood except Noah's family, because the Bible's pretty clear on that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    29:54-29:55

    All right, we'll do another

    Mark Ort:

    29:55-30:29

    question off the paper, and then we'll ask if there's any out in the audience. Number six, in Matthew 27, 52, and 53, when Jesus was crucified and died, it says, "The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs and after Jesus' resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many people." Besides the fact that this represented a miraculous sign, like the tearing of the temple curtain, drawing attention to Jesus' resurrection, is there some significance to this event?

    Mark Ort:

    30:29-30:40

    It seems odd to me that we frequently hear about the temple curtain, the daytime darkness, the earthquake that accompanied Christ's death, but this raising of the dead is rarely mentioned.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:41-30:42

    Yeah, and you know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:42-30:53

    I have the same question, because obviously this was a sign that accompanied the death of Christ, and there were all earthquakes and temple, curtain torn and the darkness.

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:53-30:55

    Why doesn't this get mentioned more?

    Pastor Jeff:

    30:56-31:01

    I think the reason people don't talk about it more is literally that phrase is all that's said about it.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:02-31:16

    The Bible doesn't go on to say, here's what happened to these people, you know, were they raptured? Some people believe they were raptured. I don't believe that. I believe they lived for a while longer and eventually did have to die as we all do.

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:18-31:53

    But here's that we don't know because that's literally all it says. I think that's why people don't talk about it. It's like, wow. I mean, that had to have been absolutely mind-blowing. Like, you know, you're walking to the market and you're like, "Grandpa? I thought you died." Yeah, I did. But it was a miracle that was obviously verified, and nobody disputed it when Matthew recorded that, so I believe it's true. But other than that one phrase, nothing's really said about it in the Bible. I think that's why it doesn't get more attention.

    Mark Ort:

    31:54-31:56

    Does anybody have another question they'd like to ask?

    Pastor Jeff:

    31:57-31:59

    I said Charles has a hand up, Darren has a hand up.

    Audience Question 3:

    32:01-32:04

    This question is for me, it's about the Old Testament.

    Audience Question 3:

    32:06-32:12

    Why is it that some Jewish men, back in those days, had two wives and two concubines?

    Audience Question 3:

    32:14-32:21

    Does that go against adultery? Isn't that kind of wrong and contradictory?

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:22-32:25

    Absolutely, that was not God's original intention.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:25-32:39

    And a lot of times the Bible, a good phrase to learn when especially studying through narratives in the Bible, a phrase that I always remind myself is it's descriptive, not prescriptive.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:40-32:42

    A lot of times the Bible is just recording what happened.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:42-32:50

    You notice clear back from the beginning, Genesis 2.24, God's plan was one man for one woman for one lifetime.

    Pastor Jeff:

    32:52-33:02

    and it was it it was something that happened in the Old Testament that certainly the Old Testament mentions but that was not God's original intention Mark you want to add to that?

    Mark Ort:

    33:02-33:08

    And the fact that that they did that anyway would lead us to believe that they were going against God and sinning.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:09-33:09

    Yeah.

    Mark Ort:

    33:09-33:10

    They shouldn't. It

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:10-33:12

    was it was not God's original intention. Multiple

    Mark Ort:

    33:12-33:17

    wives, multiple women, it's not God's

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:17-33:28

    intention like Jeff mentioned. I can't even handle one. I don't know what these people were thinking. And obviously, like, you read Solomon, like, it didn't work out well for him. How many porcupines did he have?

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:30-33:36

    Yeah, 700 or something. He had 700 porcupines. That is absolutely amazing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    33:38-34:09

    Yeah, I would say I put that under the category of descriptive, not prescriptive. The Bible says here's what happened, but certainly not God's original intention because when Jesus was asked about marriage, Matthew 19, he took him back to Genesis 2 24. When Paul was writing to the churches about marriage, 1 Corinthians 6, Ephesians 5, he went back to Genesis 2 24. That verse is the verse in the Bible, it's one man, one woman, one lifetime. So, Darren, you have a I have a question.

    34:10-34:10

    (from the room)

    Audience Question 4:

    34:11-34:25

    Now that you've answered the question a few minutes ago about Satan being destroyed and killed, I guess I've always just assumed and thought that Satan knows what's coming, he's going to do as much damage as he can until his time is up.

    Audience Question 4:

    34:26-34:32

    But after that answer, we have the written Word, and we know what happens with Satan.

    Audience Question 4:

    34:32-34:34

    Does he know what's coming?

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:35-34:42

    I think that he does, I think obviously the sin that personifies Satan is pride.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:43-34:45

    I think he absolutely knows what's coming.

    Pastor Jeff:

    34:47-34:48

    But

    Audience Question 4:

    34:48-34:53

    does he know the specifics of the release and the thousand years?

    Audience Question 4:

    34:54-34:58

    I mean, the detail we have in God's Word, is he aware of that?

    Audience Question 4:

    34:58-35:02

    Or does he just know that he ultimately will lose to God in general, period?

    Audience Question 4:

    35:02-35:04

    But the details we have in the

    35:04-35:05

    Word...

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:05-35:09

    I don't see any reason to think that he wouldn't know what God's Word says.

    Mark Ort:

    35:10-35:15

    Right. I think he has access to the things that we see, I believe.

    Mark Ort:

    35:16-35:18

    He doesn't know...

    Mark Ort:

    35:19-35:23

    I'm trying to get the right words here. He's not omniscient.

    Mark Ort:

    35:23-35:24

    Right, no, he's not omniscient.

    Mark Ort:

    35:24-35:33

    He doesn't know everything, but he would know the things that are written, and he knows behavioral patterns.

    Mark Ort:

    35:33-35:45

    I think he can tell, like, "Oh, this person has struggled with alcoholism." And so that's the point of attack that he may go after.

    Mark Ort:

    35:46-35:53

    I think he has that kind of knowledge, but I do think he would know if he has a copy of the Scriptures.

    Mark Ort:

    35:53-35:55

    I mean, or, you know what I mean?

    Pastor Jeff:

    35:55-36:12

    Yeah, and I can't think of any passages in Scripture that would say that God has revelation hidden from Satan, so I would think that he would know what God has so clearly spoken in His word.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:12-36:22

    But I've thought about that too, and I think, we were just talking about this the other day, there are people that know what the Bible says.

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:23-36:52

    And they're like, yeah, yeah, and that's what the Bible says, but I don't believe that Yeah, I I think Satan and his pride might fall into that same category to say somehow he thinks that he is going to be and deserves to be the exalted So he has to you know He has to see from God's Word clearly that his days are numbered Evan did you have a question buddy?

    Pastor Jeff:

    36:53-36:55

    What day was the earth created?

    Mark Ort:

    36:55-36:58

    Do you mean like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday?

    Mark Ort:

    36:59-37:02

    Or do you mean like day one, day two?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:02-37:04

    Yeah, can you clarify the question please?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:06-37:08

    Well, I'll tell you this.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:08-37:11

    The reason that we have a seven-day week is because of creation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:12-37:12

    That's why.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:13-37:16

    Because God told Israel in Exodus 20, you know the Ten Commandments?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:17-37:23

    When God gave Israel the Ten Commandments, He said, "I worked for six days and rested on the seventh." and that's a pattern that you should follow.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:23-37:25

    That's why we have a seven-day week.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:26-37:27

    So what day of the week did God create?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:27-37:30

    I would say it'd be the day that we call Sunday.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:31-37:32

    They didn't call it Sunday back then.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:34-37:35

    I don't know what they called it back then.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:36-37:38

    What do you think Adam called the first day of the week?

    Mark Ort:

    37:39-37:40

    What language did Adam speak?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:40-37:42

    Yeah. You know what?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:42-37:46

    Submit that one for the next Q&A day because I'll need some time to research that one.

    Mark Ort:

    37:47-37:49

    Can I ask one more question off of here and then I have one of my own actually?

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:50-37:51

    Yeah. The alarm went off.

    Pastor Jeff:

    37:51-37:54

    So if anybody absolutely needs to go, you can.

    Mark Ort:

    37:54-38:00

    Well, this one should be a quick one, but this is an interesting question, as are the rest of them that we didn't get to.

    Mark Ort:

    38:01-38:06

    In 1 Corinthians 14, it seems to indicate that women are not permitted to speak in church.

    Mark Ort:

    38:06-38:09

    What is the correct interpretation and application of this passage?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:11-38:11

    Right.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:13-38:17

    Good reference to write down in 1 Timothy 2, verses 12 through 15.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:17-38:23

    I'm gonna read this because this, people get confused on this matter.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:24-38:27

    First Timothy chapter, what did I say, two verses?

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:28-38:37

    But the apostle Paul tells Timothy, this is Old Preacher to Young Preacher, I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, rather she is to remain quiet.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:38-38:43

    Now I've had several discussions with people and they say, well that's a cultural issue.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:43-38:50

    Back in that culture in the first century in the Middle East, and it's still like that in a lot of Middle Eastern cultures today, women are not supposed to speak.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:51-38:52

    And they're like, it's a culture issue.

    Pastor Jeff:

    38:52-39:01

    Well, there's a problem with just saying it's a cultural issue because verse 13, he says, "For Adam was born first, then Eve.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:01-39:05

    "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived "and became a transgressor.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:06-39:14

    "Yet she will be saved through childbearing "if they continue in faith and love "and holiness with self-control." So Paul's reason for that is theological.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:15-39:47

    He says God has established an authority structure part of that authority structure does not include a woman having authority over a man in the church. So I would say like for the 1st Corinthians 14, you know, the whole principle "we should use Scripture to interpret Scripture," I don't believe that that's saying that a woman should never talk in church. Like, you know, if you're a female and you walk through the door, you get a piece of duct tape and put it over your mouth. I don't think that's what that says at all.

    Pastor Jeff:

    39:47-39:57

    I think when you let it, when you interpret this in light of what Paul says in 1st Timothy 2, I think what he's saying is, you know, the woman should not be the pastor or preacher of the church.

    Mark Ort:

    39:58-40:05

    Yeah, and we, I mean, we believe that women definitely have an important purpose and role in our church. Some of our

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:05-40:28

    key leaders in this church are women. They're not in positions of a pastoral authority. You know, Corrine heads up our hospitality ministry, Mandy heads up our children's ministry. We have women that are involved in leadership roles, but because of what the Scripture says about the teaching and having authority, we are not going to have a woman pastor come and preach over men.

    Mark Ort:

    40:28-40:29

    And we wouldn't have women elders.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:30-40:32

    And we wouldn't have women elders.

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:32-40:54

    And as far as I can see, that's the only area of church leadership that a woman isn't to have biblically is in that role of pastor/elder. So that's that's a really good question but like I said 1st Timothy 2 that's a that's a theological reason that's not a cultural reason.

    Mark Ort:

    40:54-40:58

    We have about eight more questions on here which you're gonna put them on the

    Pastor Jeff:

    40:58-40:59

    blog on the website.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:00-41:09

    For the next few weeks I have some answers and some notes here we'll put them we'll put them on the blog. Well I have one

    Mark Ort:

    41:09-41:10

    more question before you go.

    Mark Ort:

    41:10-41:11

    Don't be in a hurry.

    Mark Ort:

    41:13-41:15

    You know, we're new in this building, right?

    Mark Ort:

    41:15-41:18

    We just moved in a few weeks ago, what, five weeks ago?

    Mark Ort:

    41:19-41:21

    And we're here on Sundays.

    Mark Ort:

    41:22-41:26

    And the building tenants, the other tenants, there's some other office space here.

    Mark Ort:

    41:26-41:32

    We have computer companies and video production things and stuff like that.

    Mark Ort:

    41:33-41:34

    They're here during the week.

    Mark Ort:

    41:34-41:44

    And so is there a way that we could meet them minister to them, because we don't see them and they don't see us.

    Mark Ort:

    41:45-41:46

    Like how can we kind of cross paths?

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:46-41:48

    Right, that is a really good question.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:49-41:54

    I have met a few of the other tenants, like in the men's room, but that's not the place that you strike up a conversation.

    Pastor Jeff:

    41:56-42:02

    Like, you know, "Hey, I'm Pastor Jeff, you want to pull up a seat? Let's talk." I do not do that.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:04-42:08

    So I've met a few people, they're passing in the hall occasionally, or out in the parking lot, you say hi, whatever.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:09-42:13

    I actually have a message out to the property manager.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:14-42:17

    And Mark, we were actually talking about this yesterday.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:17-42:38

    But what we would like to see is us as a church having sort of an open house where we have like lunch some weekday, have sandwiches and drinks and cookies or whatever, have lunch here and just hand out invitations and say, hey, we just like to be good neighbors, get to meet you, you get to meet us.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:39-42:42

    And to pull something like that off, obviously, we'd need some help.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:42-42:54

    So I'm going to ask you as a congregation, if that sounds like something like, yeah, I could totally pull that off and direct the troops and make that happen, come and see me after service.

    Pastor Jeff:

    42:55-43:01

    And I think it's a tremendous opportunity to be able to reach out to people right here in the same building.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:02-43:04

    So we need some help, though.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:04-43:06

    So talk to me and let's make that happen.

    Audience Question 5:

    43:07-43:14

    Pastor Jeff, they know we exist because the free gifts have been dwindling every week.

    Audience Question 5:

    43:14-43:18

    I keep restocking and I know it's not our congregation because those things have been out for over a year.

    Audience Question 5:

    43:18-43:19

    So they know we're here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:19-43:20

    They know we're here.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:20-43:23

    So let's get a chance to meet them face to face and sit down.

    Mark Ort:

    43:24-43:26

    We could open house, I mean, you could bring them in.

    Mark Ort:

    43:27-43:36

    They could see our room here and see the kids area, meet a couple of the key leadership team or whatever and I think it'd be a fantastic thing.

    Pastor Jeff:

    43:37-44:02

    Absolutely. Hey, as our worship team makes their way up, Mark, would you would you close our Q&A time in prayer please? Thank you everybody for the good questions. It was fun. I love when you guys make me do my homework and we're looking forward to seeing how the Lord's going to minister his word to us over these next four weeks with four incredible guest speakers. So pray us out of here Mark.

    Mark Ort:

    44:02-44:30

    Let's pray. Lord thank you so much for Sunday morning this week. It's been great to get together with friends and family and our brothers and sisters in the Lord here. It's been great to worship and sing. I pray God that our singing was honoring to you, that our giving was pleasing to you Lord. And as we answered some questions and and shared a few laughs and kind of dived into your word.

    Mark Ort:

    44:31-44:37

    We want to thank you for your word and how it does contain the answers.

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    It has all the things pertaining to life and godliness.

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    It has everything we need to live a productive Christian life.

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    And Lord, I thank you for that.

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    I thank you for giving us your word and giving us a Bible in our own language that we can read and understand and learn more of you and learn about our condition and what we need to do and what you've already done for us.

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    So we're grateful for that, Lord.

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    As we close in a song, I pray that you'd be pleased and honored.

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    We thank you for the great love that you have toward us in sparing not your one and only son.

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    You gave your one and only beloved son on the cross, on our behalf, and we thank you for that, Lord.

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    Our substitute, the atonement for our sin, and for that we're eternally grateful.

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    Thank you, Lord, in Jesus' name, amen.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    This is Pastor Jeff Miller, and I would like to thank you again for listening to the Harvest Pittsburgh North podcast.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    If you would like to partner with us by supporting this ministry financially, you can do it safely and securely at harvestpittsburghnorth.org/giving.

    Pastor Jeff:

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    And again, this is Pastor Jeff Miller, and I would like to remind you that you are loved.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):

Review and discuss any of the questions and answers given on Sunday's Q&A day together. Have you found any additional biblical support for the answers given?

Breakout Questions:
Pray for one another.

Unstoppable Legacy.

Intro / Review:


Leaving a Legacy: 4 Things I'd Like to Say at Your Funeral:


  1. Your name here had a sincere Faith. (Acts 20:17-21)


  2. Your name here followed Jesus, even when it was Hard. (Acts 20:22-24)
  1. Your name here loved God's Word. (Acts 20:25-30)


  2. Your name here loved to Give. (Acts 20:31-35)

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  • 01:02-01:04

    Alright, open up your Bibles with me please.

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    The book of Acts, chapter 20.

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    We're going through this series in Acts called "The Unstoppable Church" and this is going to be our last message in the book of Acts until October.

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    This is a big passage to end on.

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    While you're turning to Acts chapter 20, We've been following the Apostle Paul and his missionary journeys, and at this point, he's on his third trip where he went back to Ephesus where he stayed for three years.

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    Remember, we talked about the riot that broke out.

    01:45-01:47

    It was actually stopped by the mayor.

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    Last week, we saw in 20.1, "The uproar ceased, but the ministry did not." And now Paul's on his way to Jerusalem.

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    with an offering for the poor saints in Jerusalem from the Gentile churches.

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    And he's trying to get there before Pentecost.

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    Remember last week we saw in verse 16 that the Apostle Paul, while he was traveling, it says that he avoided going to Ephesus.

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    And it wasn't because he hated Ephesus, or there's somebody in Ephesus I still owe five dollars to, or something like that.

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    It was actually the opposite.

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    It was because he loved the church so much that he knew going there would stop his travel plans.

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    And we saw that he went to a place called Miletus, which was 30 miles south.

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    Look at verse 17.

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    It says, "Now from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called the elders of the church to come to him." Okay, so to give you sort of a context for what's happening in this passage, if we were to put it in more modern day speak, imagine that I was traveling from Erie to Pittsburgh, and it was really important that I get to Pittsburgh for some God assignment.

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    I said, "Well, I'm not going to stop in Wexford." And here's why.

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    Because I know when I stop in Wexford, it's going to delay my trip.

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    I'm going to run into Levi.

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    I'm like, "Hey, man, how's the music going?" and I want to hear all about it, and I'm going to see Jared and Rachel, and I'm like, "Man, the newlyweds, how's it going?

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    And how are the pigs? I'm going to want to talk to you guys." And next thing you know, I'm just going to go around the room, "Oh, there's the Campbells, how are you guys doing?" And I think Paul was a lot like me, or I was a lot like Paul.

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    He just knew, like, you can't stop.

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    You're not going to get out of there in a timely fashion.

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    He said, "I have some things I need to tell the church.

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    Get the elders here." So it would be like, again, in a more modern day scenario, if I called ahead and said, "Hey, you know where the parking lot is in Warrendale?

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    Tell the elders to meet me there.

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    Because I've got some things to tell the church, but I'm not going to have time to stop." Okay, that's what's happening in this passage.

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    Paul had some final words for this church, and they all circle around the legacy that he's leaving behind.

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    As we look at this passage, I want to remind you that you are leaving a legacy behind too.

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    Good or bad, righteous or sinful, you are leaving a legacy behind.

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    It's not a matter of do you want to.

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    It's a matter of what kind are you.

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    I will never forget this.

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    Many years ago, I got a call from Geibel's Funeral Home in Butler.

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    They had somebody had passed away, it was a young girl that was killed actually in a car accident.

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    And they asked if we would do the funeral since she didn't have a church home.

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    And typically in those situations when I go in there I try to find a family member so I can share some general eulogy information, you know, here's the kind of person she was.

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    Not being presumptuous like I knew her, but to just start the funeral service.

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    You know, here's who she was and here's what she liked to do.

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    and try to give a little bit of a personal touch.

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    I remember sitting down at the funeral home with the girl's father, the girl's 28, and like I said, died in a car accident.

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    I sat down with the girl's father, and I told her I'd like to share some general eulogy information.

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    What are some things that I could share about your daughter?

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    And he just, he sat and he just stared at the table.

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    And after a while he said, "I don't know." I said, "Well, what are some things that she did?

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    I mean, was she into gardening?

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    Did she like art?

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    Did she like to go to the movies?" He just stared at the table and he said, "I don't know." And I said, "Well..." At this point I'm just sort of grasping at straws.

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    I said, "Can you think of anything that she liked to do?" Finally he looked up from the table.

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    "Yeah, she liked to do drugs." Wow. She left a son behind, a young son.

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    That story always stuck with me, thinking, "Here's a woman whose life was sadly cut short from our perspective, and this was the best that her closest relative could come up with to say, 'Here was her legacy.' She liked to do drugs." Now, obviously I didn't share that in the funeral.

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    But you understand my point, right?

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    You're leaving a legacy behind, whether you intend to or not.

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    Is it righteous? Is it sinful? Is it for Christ?

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    Or is it for something much lesser?

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    So this was the last time the Ephesian elders were going to see Paul, were going to see it in the passage.

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    And in a sense, you could say that this was sort of like Paul preaching his own funeral.

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    He tells him, "You're never going to see me again." And I want you to remember some things.

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    I want you to remember the example that I left you in following Christ.

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    And as I was studying this this week, and I was obviously thinking about you, church, and some of you as individuals, I was thinking, "What am I going to say at your funeral?" You're like, "Guess what you do all week, Pastor Jeff, huh?

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    Just sit in your office and imagine what you're gonna say when I die." Well, let's not have your funeral anytime soon, okay?

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    But what legacy are you leaving?

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    And these things we're going to see in the text, these are things that I would hope.

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    I honestly, I would like these things to be said about me.

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    And I hope to say them about you.

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    So on your outline, if you're taking notes, leaving a legacy, there's four things I'd like to say at your funeral.

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    Four things I'd like to say at your funeral.

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    Number one, write this down.

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    Well, first of all, here's -- okay, with the blanks on the outline, the first blank is always your name, okay?

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    It's always your name.

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    So you can go through right now.

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    I'm going to give you a second.

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    The first blank and all those, just write your name.

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    Don't write like Y-O-U-R-N-A-M-E.

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    What's your first name in the first blank all the way down?

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    And I'll tell you what goes in the other blanks.

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    Number 1, he had a sincere faith.

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    She had a sincere faith.

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    Again, we'll pick up on verse 18 where we left off.

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    It says, "And when they came to him, when the Ephesian elders met Paul and Miletus, He said to them, "You yourselves know how I lived among you the whole time, from the first day that I set foot in Asia, serving the Lord with all humility and with tears, and with trials that happened to me through the plots of the Jews, how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable and teaching you in public and from house to house, both the Jews and Greeks of repentance for God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Let's stop there. Can I say this about you at your funeral? Can I say that?

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    Levi had a sincere thing. Notice the first thing that Paul says, verse 18, he says, "You Paul knew that he wasn't blowing smoke here, he wasn't deceiving these people.

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    He says, "You yourselves know that my lifestyle matched my theology. How's that going for you?

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    Do you live what you say you believe?" Look at this statement that Paul makes. We could spend a whole sermon just on this one statement.

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    He says, "You yourselves know, first of all, how I lived. You know how I lived." Paul wasn't like in the office 168 hours a week, never with the people, never in small groups, never at any church functions.

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    He says, "You saw how I lived." Again, next phrase, "among you." And Paul didn't isolate himself like some preachers do.

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    I will show up and grace you with my presence when it's time to speak, but until then, leave me alone.

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    He said, "No, I was among you." Look at the next phrase, "the whole time." The whole time.

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    That it wasn't like, you know what, Paul, he had a really good month.

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    I remember is like back in like February was and then it seemed like March things really went sour and and Then we had a really hard time getting him back on track in April. He says the whole time the whole time From the first day from the first day meaning yeah when Paul came to us he was a Little pagan around the edges, but over time he sort of changed. He said, "No, you saw from day one the kind of person that Christ made me to be, and how I lived among you." Church, this is where it falls into our laps, because you know what?

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    You can fool me. You can fool me, because I see you on Sunday morning, here and there at the church picnics.

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    My small group I see a lot more.

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    But you can fool me.

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    You can even come here and fool the rest of the church members.

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    And there's probably some of you here that can even fool your small group.

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    But if you're married, you're not fooling your spouse.

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    Your spouse knows the kind of person that you are.

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    And if you have children, your children know the kind of person that you are.

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    So what's the gap between what you say you believe and how that shows up in your life?

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    Like, well, what does sincere faith look like?

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    What's all in verse 19, jot some words down.

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    We're gonna go through these quickly.

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    Like I said, we could spend so much time on this.

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    I'm gonna go through this quickly though.

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    What does sincere faith look like?

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    Verse 19, he says, "Serving the Lord," first of all, he says, "with all humility." serving, humility.

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    Write down the word "submissive." What does sincere faith look like?

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    Write down this word first of all, it's "submissive." Paul says, verse 19, "Serving..." What does your Bible say?

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    "Serving..." Say it again, "Serving the Lord." Not serving himself, not even serving the church.

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    He said, "I'm serving the Lord." And how did he do it?

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    What's the next phrase?

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    with all humility." Humility.

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    That's submissive.

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    Look at the next phrase.

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    He says, "And with tears." Write this word down.

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    Write down "passionate." Not only is sincere faith submissive, sincere faith is also passionate.

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    That doesn't mean you have to be a crier, like some of us are.

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    But it means you should be passionate, that looks like for you.

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    Next phrase, he goes, "And with trials." He says, "I started with tears and with trials." Write down this word, sincere faith is persevering.

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    We'll talk more about that in a couple minutes.

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    Sincere faith, write this word down, it's edifying.

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    It's edifying.

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    He says, "I did not shrink back from declaring to you anything that was profitable." Sincere faith is consistent.

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    That's where he says he taught publicly, taught house to house to the Jews, to the Greeks.

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    Basically he's saying everywhere, everyone it was the same message.

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    See Paul wasn't like, you know, when I'm with this group of people I act this way, and when I'm with this group of people I act this way, and when I'm in this place I act a certain way, and when I'm in this place, he was consistent in his message no matter where he was or who he was with.

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    Like, you know, more Jesus for these people, but these people maybe a little less Jesus for them.

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    He was consistent. That comes from a sincere faith.

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    Write down this last word here, complete.

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    Sincere faith is complete. Meaning what?

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    Look at this last phrase in verse 21.

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    He says, "Testifying both the Jews and the Greeks of repentance toward God, and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." That is the gospel.

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    There's two sides of it.

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    There's repentance that's literally changing your mind.

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    Repentance is when you get to that point that you look at your sin, and you're like, "I thought I loved this. I don't love this.

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    this is disgusting it dishonors God and it's ruining my life and it's a change of mind I don't love this I'm not I'm I'm not doing this anymore and repentance is turning and here's the other side of it it's faith in our Lord Jesus Christ it's turning to Christ and saying I need you to transform me I can't I can't hate the sin and avoid this sin in the flesh God I need you to transform me and I That's the gospel. It's repentance and it's faith.

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    You see, we have a tendency to be a little lopsided with that, don't we?

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    For some people it's just condemnation, judgment, and you're a sinner, and you're going to hell, and you need to repent, and you don't ever hear the grace side of it.

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    But for some people it's just like, "You know what? Jesus loves you.

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    It's all good. It's all good.

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    And they never talk about turning from sin.

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    Authentic faith comes from a complete gospel.

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    Turning, that's repentance.

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    Turning from your sin, turning to Christ, receiving the forgiveness and eternal life that He offers.

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    So if I was at your funeral, I just want you to imagine, imagine it's your funeral.

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    And you're like, "Yeah, I'm just laying there in that casket." And I said, "She had a sincere faith.

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    She had a sincere faith." What in your mind's eye, what do you see your family doing when I say that?

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    Do you see your family sitting there going, "Yeah, you know what? She did.

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    She really did love Jesus Christ." Or would you see your family sort of doing awkward, put their head down, like, "Well, the preacher thought she was sincere, but boy, He didn't see her the other 167 hours of the week.

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    Convicting, right?

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    Number one, he had a sincere faith. Number two, write this down.

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    Four things I'd like to say at your funeral.

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    If I go first, maybe things I have to say are mine.

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    Number two, he followed Jesus even when it was hard.

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    Look at verses 22 and 23.

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    Paul says, "And now behold, I am going to Jerusalem, constrained by the Spirit, not knowing what will happen to me there, except that the Holy Spirit testifies to me in every city that imprisonment and afflictions await me." Paul knew what was ahead, but he followed the Spirit's guidance anyways.

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    How in the world can you do that? Look at verse 24.

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    How in the world can you march in knowing that you're going to be walking right into problems, imprisonment, and torture, and here's how.

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    And verse 24, either you get it or you don't.

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    Verse 24 says, "But I do not account my life of any value, nor as precious to myself.

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    If only I may finish my course in the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus to God.

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    It's assessing the value that you put on your life.

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    That's how you get to the place where Paul was.

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    To say, "I don't care what trials are ahead." Now understand that when Paul didn't count his own life as precious, he wasn't like Debbie Downer.

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    I'm such a loser." That's not the case at all.

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    You see, what Paul did was he put his life on the scale, and he put the gospel on the scale.

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    And you need to do the same thing, and you need to ask yourself, "Which one has more weight?" For a lot of people, it's your life.

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    My life has value. My life is precious.

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    And when you do that, the gospel doesn't have the kind of impact in your life that it should.

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    But you see, Paul was saying, "When I put them on the scale, The Gospel far outweighs the value of my life.

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    Comparatively speaking, my life really isn't worth very much.

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    Because the Gospel of Jesus Christ is infinitely valuable.

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    That's why it doesn't matter.

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    That's why all that matters is completing the mission.

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    That's why all that matters is telling people about Christ.

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    "But Paul, what about you and your comfort?" "It doesn't really mean anything to me." "But Paul, they could kill you." that's eventually what happened and Paul's like yeah but when you put it on the scale see trusting God and following Jesus it's so fun when it's easy isn't it so fun when it's easy like at a wedding yesterday had a wedding last week - it's falling crisis for when it's easy like you know I feel like God has called me to marry this person I just don't want to be obedient to what God's calling me to do it's fun when it's easy right or God opened this door for me to new job and I'm gonna be making so much more money and following Jesus is fun when it's easy but you really know how sincere your faith is when the trials come. Mark and I were talking about this this morning weren't we when it comes to trials everyone gets them right? Everyone gets them. That's what we said we were talking about this in my office like you got issues I got issues we all got You've got problems, but nothing proves your faith like perseverance in trials.

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    Not only does it prove your faith to you, it's going to prove your faith to others.

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    We've talked about that. We've seen it all through Acts.

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    You see the sincere faith when the trials come, when the fires come.

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    So at your funeral - by the way, I'm not going to lie at your funeral - Would I say, "You know what, her trials in life were just... they overcame her." Or would I be able to say, "You know what, you know what was wonderful about her life, was she followed Christ no matter how hard.

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    No matter how difficult her life became, she would never give up following Jesus Christ." Thirdly, you might be able to say this at your funeral, He loved God's Word.

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    Can I say that?

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    At your funeral, he loved God's Word.

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    Look at verses 25 and 26.

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    "And now behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again.

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    "Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all of you." He says, "I'm innocent." What does he mean by that?

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    He's like, "Look, none of you can stand before God and say, 'I've never heard the gospel.

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    I've never heard it.'" None of you can, you know, when you die, none of you are going to be able to stand before God and say, I didn't know about this plan of salvation around Jesus. I just never heard.

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    Paul said, "I made sure that you knew who Jesus Christ was, and what He accomplished, and what that means to you." He said, "That's why I'm innocent of your blood." I love verse 27, he says, "For I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God." He says, "I did not shrink." That's a term that means retreat.

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    Why? Because, let's be honest, there's some parts of the Bible that aren't as fun to preach, right?

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    And it's easy to just preach on what you want to preach on.

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    You know, let's just do topical sermons every week.

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    In fact, what was it, a couple years ago, there was a famous preacher who said that, he goes, "Pastors that preach the Bible expositorily," he says, "that's lazy." Pastor does nothing but topical messages.

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    And I would disagree with him.

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    I think it's far easier to preach topical messages.

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    They just sit around and say, "What do I want to preach about?" "Oh, I know. I'll preach about God's love because everybody wants to hear about that." And I just make that my thing every week.

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    "Hey, God loves you. God loves you." Is that true? Yeah, it's absolutely true.

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    But is that everything that the Bible teaches? No.

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    That's why he says, "I didn't shrink back from declaring to you the whole counsel of God." That's why at Harvest Bible Chapel we do expository preaching.

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    We pick a book of the Bible, and if some of you have been with us long enough, you see we walk through it. We walk through Acts, we walk through Mark, We've walked through Colossians and Philippians and so many books in the Old Testament, the prophets, you know, like Jonah and Habakkuk and Haggai.

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    We've walked through verse by verse, not skipping a verse.

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    Because expository preaching forces us to talk about things that we might talk about otherwise.

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    But things that God recorded in His Word, because obviously He wants us to know them, right?

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    the whole council of god the whole council of god means not just your little pet doctrines how many people in here have a pet how many people have a pet, ok how many people in here have a pet doctrine like what do you mean by that, here's what i mean, you know you have a pet, you love your little pet you have a dog you have a great dog you have a great, i love your dog Not as good as my dog, 'cause everybody thinks their dog's the best, right?

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    So we all love our dogs, right?

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    And, um...

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    Some people have doctrines like that.

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    They just sort of cradle, and they love so much, and they want to insert it into every single conversation that can be had.

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    Like, what are you talking about? I'm gonna give you some examples.

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    One is, like, baptism.

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    One time preaching at North Street. I think this sermon was about money or something.

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    this guy he was visiting from out of town and rushed to pulpit right after Pastor Bob you were gone this guy rushed to pulpit he's like why didn't you talk about baptism I'm like because it wasn't in the text this guy was so bent about that he's like I can't believe that you're preaching to a group of people and you didn't mention baptism why was that such a big deal to him because that was his little pet doctrine gonna make sure you get that in because that's the most important thing in the Bible. Now look, do we believe in baptism and harvest Bible chapel? Yeah, obviously. Do we baptize? Yeah, obviously. Do we need to talk about it every single time we open our Bibles? Do we need to try to find it in every single passage even if it's not mentioned at all? No, because we're about the whole counsel of God. For other people it might be creation. We just did whole sermon on creation. Do I believe in creation? Absolutely. Six literal 24-hour days, that's what I believe, because I believe that's what the Bible teaches straightforwardly. Do I need to preach about creation every single sermon?

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    But that's my pet doctrine! You can't preach about Paul talking to the Ephesian elders without first mentioning that God created the world on which they met in Miletus, and God created the people that eventually made the people that Paul met with. See, creation's right in there. For some people it's election. Do I believe in election? Yeah, I absolutely do. I believe that we have the responsibility to make a choice to follow Christ, but somehow over-encompassing that is the fact that God has chosen us in Christ. Do I Do I understand it? No.

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    But I believe it.

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    But I've met people that they want to talk about election constantly.

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    Constantly!

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    Like no matter what you're talking about, you have to insert this idea that only if God preordains you to do that, like the passage can be like, okay, like this passage here.

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    Well, Paul went and met with the Ephesian elders at Miletus, and they're like, yeah, do you know why?

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    predetermined that he was going to meet them there.

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    Like, can we just assume that on the front end, right? Can we just assume that?

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    No, you have to preach it.

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    We could go on. For some people it's sign gifts, you know, pet doctrines.

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    Just watch out for the pet doctrine people. One thing is everything in the Bible.

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    And that's not preaching the whole counsel of God.

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    The whole counsel, verse by verse, keeps me from choosing my favorites, forces me to cover it all.

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    I really just want to reflect the text that we see when we come together.

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    So if you're leaving here today and you're a little upset that I didn't spend any time talking about your pet doctrine, ask yourself, did I share what was in the text?

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    That's really what matters.

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    Look at verse 28.

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    "Be careful to attention yourselves and all the flock in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to care for the church of God which He obtained with His own blood." By the way, just put a little mark in your Bible or underline that.

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    We talk a lot about the end of the Bible says that Jesus is God, Jesus is God, absolutely He is.

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    Here's a passage that says God is Jesus.

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    It says that God obtained the church with His blood.

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    Interesting way of putting it.

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    Talking about the divinity of Christ, obviously.

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    Verse 29, Paul says, "I know that after my departure, fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock, and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things to draw away the disciples after them.

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    Therefore, be alert.

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    Remembering that for three years I did not cease, night or day, to admonish everyone with tears.

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    And now I commend you to God, the Word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified.

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    Stand firm in the truth.

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    Be diligent in imparting the truth, knowing that the people you love are going to be exposed to teaching that comes from hell.

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    There is so much damning and wicked teaching out there.

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    It is ridiculous.

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    And the only way that you're going to be protected from that is to be familiar with the real thing, right?

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    That gets back to the whole counsel of God.

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    This is why I do expository preaching.

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    I want to hammer a passage into your head and into your heart, so that when you hear false doctrine, you can say, "You know what? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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    We walked through that passage, and I know that's not what that says." So much bad stuff out there.

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    Be familiar with God's Word, alright?

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    The question for you is, do you love God's Word?

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    Do you love all of it?

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    growing in your ability to spot error.

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    That's what I wanna be able to say about you at your funeral.

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    I wanna be able to hold your Bible up and it's like tattered.

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    Instead of like holding your Bible up and like, this was her Bible, it's still in the wrapper.

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    He loved God's word.

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    Finally, write this down.

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    Your name in the blank, obviously.

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    Loved to give.

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    Loved to give.

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    I want to be able to say that at your funeral.

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    I want to say, you know, Big Ron loved to give.

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    He loved to give.

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    Look at verse 33.

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    Paul says, "I coveted no one's silver or gold or apparel.

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    You yourselves know," oh, there's that again.

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    "You yourselves know that these hands I ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me.

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    In all things, I have shown you that by working hard in this way, we must help the weak.

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    And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how He Himself said, "It is more blessed to give than to receive." Those are the only words from Jesus' earthly ministry that aren't recorded in the Gospels, by the way.

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    Something else about those words, That's not the magic phrase that we use when we get a bad Christmas present.

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    Okay?

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    "Oh, a hot pink and green scarf, thank you!" And we like to say to our family, "Well, you know, it is more blessed to give than to receive." That's not what that verse is about.

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    For those who are givers, they know the truth.

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    when Jesus said, "It is more blessed to give than to receive." That might be another encouragement to take this Financial Peace University, right Alex?

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    You'll experience what this verse means.

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    It is more blessed to be a giver than to be a taker, and you're one or the other.

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    You're either looking to give or you're looking to get.

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    You're either looking to how can I get ahead or how can I be a blessing to others.

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    How? Well, obviously money.

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    To the church, to the needy, to missions.

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    Also giving of time.

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    Make serving at church a priority. We've talked about that.

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    Serving a church at some point needs to be a priority.

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    Am I going to be able to say that at your funeral?

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    You know what? He loved to give.

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    He loved to give.

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    And this is a big deal because giving is the ultimate expression of love, is it not?

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    Isn't giving the ultimate expression of love?

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    You know the most famous verse in the Bible?

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    John 3.16?

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    "For God so..." Help me out. "God so..." He loved the world, right?

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    How did God show that love?

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    What's the next phrase?

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    For God so loved the world, He gave, right?

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    That's the ultimate expression of love, is giving.

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    It's giving.

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    It's natural, and it's lavish, and it's God-like.

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    When you love, and that love drives you to give.

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    What legacy are you leaving?

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    Are you a giver?

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    He was a taker.

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    Look at verse 36.

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    "When he said these things, he knelt down and prayed with them all.

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    There was much weeping on the part of all.

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    They embraced Paul and kissed him, being sorrowful most of all because of the word he had spoken, that they would not see his face again.

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    And they accompanied him to the ship." To the Ephesian elders, this was the end.

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    This was like Paul's living funeral.

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    Sad, isn't it?

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    Sad reality is your end is going to come.

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    And you too, like Paul, are going to be leaving a legacy.

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    And what the world is asking, and what the world needs to know, what the world needs to see from you in the meantime, is the gospel of Jesus Christ work.

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    Is it just a religion that you've sort of added to try to be a moral person?

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    Or is there a genuine transforming born-again life change?

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    People need to see does the gospel work So if you go before me Here's what I want to be able to say about you at your funeral You saw how the gospel was at work in their life You saw they had a sincere faith. They followed Jesus Christ even when it was hard They loved God's Word They were a giver I'm gonna be able to say that about you You know thinking of last words As many of you know a couple of years ago. I lost a very dear friend and a motorcycle accident and Sometimes things really come into perspective in the rear view mirror, right?

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    And he called me the week before the accident, and he's not, you know people that are like, they're not phone guys, right?

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    Most guys are like not phone guys, most.

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    But this guy was really not a, he didn't like to spend time on the phone.

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    But we talked for probably 45, 50 minutes on the phone the week before his accident.

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    And I look back on that now, his name was Mike, and I look back on that now, and the things that he said in that conversation are going to stick with me the rest of my life.

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    He had no way of knowing.

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    See, Paul threw the inside scoop from the Holy Spirit.

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    Paul knew that he wasn't going to see these guys again, but when Mike was telling me these things that I'm about to share with you, he didn't know this was going to be last real conversation he and I had.

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    I think that God knows.

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    Pretty sure.

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    But in that last conversation, one of the things that Mike said, he said, "You know, Jeff, the older I get, the more I realize that, you know what, really the most valuable thing that we have on the earth, do you know what it is?" He says, "It's time." you know they're not making any more of that.

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    You can always, he said you can always get more money, right?

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    You can always go get another job and you can always go get more money.

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    There's really no way that you can go get more time.

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    So my question to you church is what are you doing with your time?

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    What sort of a legacy are you leaving behind?

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    Let's pray.

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    Father in Heaven, we thank You for the incredible things that we have seen in Your Word.

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    We thank You, Father, for the power of the Gospel.

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    We are not assembled as a group of people trying to keep the rules of a book.

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    We are assembled as a group of people who were once dead but have been made alive in Jesus' presence.

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    Today, Father, we're just simply examining, are we walking with Christ?

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    Are we showing the glorious truths and the realities of the Gospel?

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    Can the world see?

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    Father, we know it's easy to put on a show for the world.

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    Jesus talks so much about that.

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    Do not be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and pray, and stand on the street corners and pray, who like to disfigure their faces when they fast, who like to sound trumpets before they give.

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    Jesus told us that putting on a show before the world is very common.

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    What about the people who know us best, Father, the people that we're closest with, the people that can tell whether or not our faith is authentic?

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    Thank you for the example that we have from the Apostle Paul, and I thank you for examples we have in our day, the people that you placed in our lives that show us what the transformed life in Christ looks like.

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    Father, let this be a day of examination.

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    Grant us repentance where needed.

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    We praise you, Father. In the glorious name of your Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Amen.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read Acts 20:17-35

  1. What are the two sides of the Gospel, according to Acts 20:21? Why are both parts important? What happens if you leave a part out?
     

  2. Who do you know that follows Jesus no matter how hard his/her life gets (Acts 20:22-23)? How does this person inspire you?
     

  3. What are the characteristics of someone who loves God’s Word (Acts 20:25-32)?
    are ways the church can keep youth from disengaging? How can you help?

Breakout Questions:

In which of these areas are you weakest?: Sincere faith, following Jesus during hard times, loving God’s Word, being a giver. 
 
Have your breakout group pray for you to grow in that area.

Unstoppable Urgency.

Intro / Review:



Death to "Status Quo": Four Reasons You’'d Better Be Urgent in Ministry!


  1. Because people need Encouraged (Acts 20:1-2)


  2. Because enemies need Avoided (Acts 20:3-6)
  1. Because the youth need Engaged to your financial goals. (Acts 20:7-12)


  2. Because the plans need Made to your financial goals. (Acts 20:13-16)

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    So are we ready to get into God's Word together?

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    Father in Heaven, we are about to turn to Your Word.

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    God, right now, You are listening to what we say about You.

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    And that is no small thing.

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    Let Your Word be represented clearly and accurately, because Your Word itself clearly and accurately represents you.

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    And might we be transformed as your Holy Spirit is at work with the Word in ways that your Bible talks about it, and I don't know if I fully understand how all that works, but somehow the Word goes forth and your Holy Spirit at the same time works with the Word.

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    You transform lives that way.

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    Eliminate distractions, Father.

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    Help us all to tune in.

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    We pray in Jesus' name.

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    Open up your Bibles with me, please, to Acts chapter 20.

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    Acts chapter 20.

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    While you're turning there, I'm going to tell you this story In the old church up in Butler, there was a man who - an elderly gentleman - taught Sunday school.

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    Sort of one of the pillars of the church.

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    And he's with the Lord now.

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    And loved this man.

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    And he loved me.

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    But he always got on my case about it.

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    Sort of like the father figure thing, right?

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    One time, it was like during meet and greet time and the church was before the sermon.

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    turned around, got right in my face, and he said, "Jeff, this is going to offend you, but when I was an elder in the church, and I got to tell you at the time, I was wearing like a dress shirt with a tie, but no coat." Okay, so get that picture in your head.

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    He said, "Jeff, this is going to offend you, but I'm going to tell you, when I was an elder in this church, you wore a shirt, you wore a tie, and you wore a suit coat.

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    Every Sunday, no exceptions.

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    And I'm like, oh, okay.

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    But he was one of those people that would harp on things, right, part of, I guess, the preacher in him.

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    He goes, I know you're probably offended by that, but I'm telling you, this wouldn't have worked.

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    Shirt, tie, suit coat, every Sunday.

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    And I know what he was getting at.

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    Where's your suit coat at, Jeff?

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    Shirt, tie, suit coat.

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    And he read us the riot act in the air for a couple minutes.

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    He was on us pretty good.

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    Even in Greek, yeah, he knew Greek, so he would chew me out in Greek sometimes.

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    And true story.

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    So we all sat down and it was sermon time.

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    And as soon as he sat down, I mean as soon as he sat down, he put his arm on the back of the pew and (snoring) like snoring during the entire sermon.

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    And if you know my wife at all, I know that she does not like me receiving unsolicited, unjust criticism.

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    She doesn't like that at all.

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    And Aaron gets really defensive and I love her to death for that.

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    I remember at the time, as soon as he fell asleep and slept through the whole sermon Aaron leaned over and she goes, "When he was an elder, I wonder what they said about sleeping during the whole sermon." I never asked them.

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    I love that about Aaron.

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    But let's be honest.

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    How many of us have ever fallen asleep in church?

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    Let's be honest. I have. I have.

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    Come on. Come on.

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    I have.

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    Usually not when I'm preaching, but I have.

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    Well, if you've ever fallen asleep in church, this is a good passage for you today.

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    will bring some refreshment for your soul.

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    So we're following the apostle Paul and his missionary journey as we go verse by verse through Acts.

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    Right now we're on his third trip where he went back to Ephesus where he stayed for two or three years.

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    Remember last week we saw that this riot breaks out because the idol makers were mad that people were coming to Christ and the idolatry was stopping and that meant they weren't buying their little trinkets.

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    This riot breaks out.

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    Paul was protected by his pagan friends and the church.

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    And the riot was actually stopped by the mayor.

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    Now look at chapter 20, verse 1.

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    Just the first phrase I want you to look at.

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    It says, "After the uproar ceased." After the uproar ceased.

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    Before we look at the text, we can sort of imagine what we might expect the Bible to say.

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    Okay, there was this riot, and Christians were being dragged out, There was chaos and things settled down, the dust cleared.

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    What happens next?

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    Maybe the apostle Paul says, "You know what, I'm going on sabbatical.

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    It's been a long, rough season.

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    Or, you know, I'm going on vacation.

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    I'm just going to settle down for a little bit." But the title of today's message is "Unstoppable Urgency." And the word of the day, the word of the week, and hopefully the word that typifies who we are as a church, is the word "urgency." Because church, hear me, my biggest fear - when I say "the church," I mean the church in general, but I'm talking specifically about Harvest Bible Chapel.

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    This church.

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    My biggest fear for our church is not persecution.

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    Persecution is actually very good for the church.

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    My biggest fear for the church is not false teachers, even though that's a problem.

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    God's teachers have always existed.

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    My biggest fear for the church isn't even demonic activity, and we deal with that.

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    My biggest fear for the church, honestly, by far, number one, my biggest fear for this church is complacency.

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    Meaning we're just content to stay where we are, to maintain status quo.

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    We'll get the jobs done, There's no need to think about growth or think about next steps.

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    As we talk about contentment, let's make a distinction.

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    First of all, we are content in Christ. Amen?

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    Yes, we are content in our salvation. Amen?

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    Yes, we are content in God's provision. Amen?

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    Absolutely, 100%.

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    But there are some things we should never be content with.

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    There are some things we should never be content with.

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    is where we are in our personal growth.

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    We should never be content with that.

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    We always have room to grow.

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    Watch out for the guy that's like, "I am absolutely 100% totally done growing in Christ." I've never met that guy.

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    I've met people that thought they were there.

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    We should never be content.

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    We should always be seeking the Lord and seeking to allow Christ.

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    Romans 8.29, "Being conformed into the image of His Son." That's God's goal for us, and the image of Christ.

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    So not only should we never be content with where we are in our personal growth, we should never be content with where we are in the life of our church.

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    There's always more to do.

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    There's always work to be done.

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    We should always be evaluating what we are doing.

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    We should always be retooling.

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    We should always be changing things.

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    We should always be rethinking some things.

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    So again, at this point in Acts, you think, okay, the riot's over, the dust's settled, Let's just get back to normal church routine, but we're going to see in this passage, like Paul, we should always carry with us the sense of urgency.

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    So if you're taking notes on your outline, and I encourage you to do so, the heading is "Death to Status Quo." Four reasons you'd better be urgent in your ministry.

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    And a lot of this message, honestly, I'm speaking specifically to leaders in this church.

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    I'm talking about our ministry leaders, I'm talking about our elders.

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    I'm talking about our small group leader and participants.

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    I'm talking to the people who work in hospitality under Corrine.

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    I'm talking about our children's workers, nursery.

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    That's most of our church.

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    Death to status quo.

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    Four reasons you better be urgent in ministry.

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    Here's number one.

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    Because people need encouraged.

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    Because people need encouraged.

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    Look at verses 1 and 2 here.

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    After the uproaries, Paul sent for the disciples, and after encouraging them, he said farewell and departed to Macedonia.

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    And when he had gone through those regions and had given them much encouragement, he came to Greece.

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    Let's stop there. You see right there, the first two verses, we saw the word a couple of times.

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    Encouragement. Encouragement was Paul's priority, not just there, Also, in his travels, everywhere he went, home church, churches he planted, we see that over and over in Acts right here two more times.

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    What did Paul do when he traveled to these churches? He encouraged them.

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    In church, when we get into a status quo mindset, we have a tendency to not be encouragers.

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    And I don't mean we become discouragers, I just mean we aren't actively encouraging.

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    When we get in status quo mindset, we just assume that everyone is okay because no one is complaining.

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    Right?

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    That's status quo mindset.

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    That would be like if I said to one of our ministry leaders, like we'll pick on Corinne for example, "How's your hospitality team?" "Well, nobody's complaining, so I guess everybody's okay." That's status quo.

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    That's not good.

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    You can't just assume that people are going to call me if they need encouragement.

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    "If they need encouragement, they'll call me." It doesn't really work that way.

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    Encouragement has to be initiated.

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    You, as the encourager, have to go after them.

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    Otherwise, it just gets a little weird, like Jay.

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    I want you to stand up right now and ask me to encourage you.

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    Ask me to encourage you.

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    Jeff, please encourage me.

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    Jay, you're doing a great job as an elder on the worship team.

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    You're doing a fantastic job.

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    Now, did that feel very authentic because you had to ask me?

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    Absolutely not.

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    Okay, now it's your turn to encourage me, Jay.

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    I want you to say some really encouraging things to me now.

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    I've got to tell you, though, Jay, little weird that I had to ask you, but you see my point. It has to be natural, and it has to be initiated by you. That's why Paul traveled around.

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    That's why he went to these churches, and that was his goal. I have to encourage them so they don't get... well how does that keep them out of status quo?

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    Because you know how it is. When people are not encouraged, people get into a rut.

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    true or false. No one's noticing, good or bad. It doesn't matter how I do, so I just need to get the job done, right? Like if, for example, let's talk about children's ministry. If we never encouraged Mandy and our nursery workers and our children's workers, it would be so easy for that ministry to get into a rut.

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    Nobody notices what we do anyway. They just think we're babysitters. They don't really care. So we'll just do what we got to do and, you know, we know the routine.

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    and encouragement.

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    We've got to be urgent in initiating.

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    Encouragement.

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    And I thought this would be a great place in the message right now to encourage you as a church.

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    I want to give you a couple words of encouragement right now.

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    First of all, I want to encourage you that God loves you.

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    I want to encourage you and remind you that it doesn't matter what you've done.

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    Because some people think, "I've messed up my life so bad.

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    I've screwed up, Pastor Jeff, and I don't know if God will ever forgive me." Your sin is not greater than the grace of God.

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    He loves you so much that He sent His Son to die on the cross to pay for your sin.

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    He loves you so much that His Son came out of that grave in three days so that you can have a resurrection, so you can be born again.

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    That's how much God loves you.

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    So if you're feeling defeated right now, understand that Christ has already won the victory.

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    God loves you.

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    That is not in question.

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    Be encouraged by that.

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    I want to encourage some people right now who are struggling with different things.

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    I want to encourage you that better days are ahead.

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    The Bible says that the whole world is under a curse.

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    And that right now pain and suffering are actually considered normal.

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    For now.

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    But Jesus promised someday, my favorite verse in the Bible, Revelation 21.5, Jesus said, "Behold, I am making all things new." That day is coming.

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    He is going to make everything new!

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    So whatever you're struggling with right now, It is temporary.

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    Whether it's a health issue, whether it's a relationship issue, maybe for some people you're just struggling financially.

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    But for the things like a health issue that we can't get better because of making different choices, Jesus is making all things new.

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    The day's coming.

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    It's going to happen real soon.

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    I want to encourage the people that have worked so hard.

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    the past month in this church has seen people working literally to the point of exhaustion. I want to encourage you to remind you that the Bible says in the first Corinthians 15 verse 58 that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

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    Therefore be steadfast and movable always abounding in the work of the Lord knowing that your labor in the Lord is not in vain. The things you do for Christ matter, they matter eternally and even if you don't see it immediately, you know It's like planting a garden, right?

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    You don't plant the seed and go out in five minutes and say, "Where's my tomatoes?" Right?

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    You're like, "I don't say tomatoes at all." It takes time, doesn't it, Matt? It takes time.

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    Your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

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    I want to encourage you on that.

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    This church has done an incredible job turning this room into a church.

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    I've heard so many compliments from friends and family who have visited Just this past Friday, I ran into a couple that were here our first day.

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    They attend another church, very faithful in that church, but they came as a support.

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    They said, "I could not believe the way that room looked, how beautiful it was." And I said, "We have people that were so dedicated and working.

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    You've done a great job.

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    Now, we're going to seek the Lord on how He's going to use this place." But when we talk about encouragement and the urgency of encouragement, Someone that you know in your life right now just needs a word of encouragement.

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    I heard a preacher say one time that somebody is one step away from bailing on their marriage.

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    One step.

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    Somebody is one step away from complete financial collapse.

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    Somebody is one step away from making a decision that will ruin the rest of their life.

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    So one encouraging word from you can be something that God uses to turn that around.

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    So Paul was urgent.

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    "Riot's over, let's settle down." He goes, "No, riot's over, that means I can be busy." Encouraging the churches. Urgency.

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    People need encouragement.

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    Number two, he dropped this down, because enemies need avoided.

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    I'm just going to talk about this quickly.

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    Luke 3-6.

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    It says, "There," this is Greece, which is technically Corinth, which is in Achaia.

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    "There he spent three months..." By the way, that's probably where he wrote the epistle to the Romans.

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    Make note in your Bible.

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    "There he spent three months, and when a plot was made against him by the Jews, as he was about to set sail for Syria, he decided to return through Macedonia.

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    Sopater, the Berean, the son of Hyrus, and accompanied him.

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    And of the Thessalonians, Aristarchus and Secondus, and Gaius of Derbe and Timothy.

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    We all know Timothy, right?

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    And the Asians, Tychicus and Trophimus.

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    These went on ahead and were waiting for us at Troas, but we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread.

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    in the Passover.

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    And in five days we came to the metroas where we stayed for seven days.

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    Enemies need avoided.

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    Notice in verses 5 and 6, the pronouns change to "us" and "we." That's because through the travels, Luke who was left at Philippi picked up with the group.

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    You notice that through Acts, when Luke is recording what was happening when he wasn't there.

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    It's "they" and "them." Luke is with the group. It's all us and we.

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    You notice that there were some enemies that needed to be avoided.

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    It said that there were some Jews, verse 3, that were plotting against Paul.

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    Just a quick word. We've been talking about enemies of the Gospel for the last two years as we've been going through Acts.

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    But I just want to remind you, of course, church, we love our enemies.

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    Of course, we bless those who hate us.

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    But there comes a time where discernment says, "When someone's trying to harm me, I'm going to avoid them." Notice that Paul wasn't presumptuous to say, "Well, God's going to protect me.

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    I'm bulletproof until it's my time, so I don't need to be careful." This is a reminder in the text and a reminder for us as a church that there is a real, literal war going on in the spiritual realm and it flows over to our physical realm.

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    And you will be a casualty of the war if you pretend that there isn't one going on.

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    So wake up.

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    Urgency calls me to be on my guard, or as Jesus said, be shrewd as snakes, innocent as doves.

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    So you better be urgent.

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    There are real enemies out there.

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    Number three, It's part of the passage that's probably most famous, this chunk of Scripture here.

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    Death to status quo, four reasons you better be urgent in ministry.

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    This is a big one here, church, because the youth need engaged.

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    Because the youth need engaged.

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    Look at verses 7-12.

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    It says, "On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, and Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day.

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    And he prolonged his speech until midnight.

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    So if you're going to complain about the length of the sermon, I have never kept you here until midnight.

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    And that's biblical.

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    There were many lamps in the upper room where we were gathered.

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    And a young man named Eutychus, sitting at the window.

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    Pause for a second.

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    Notice he talks about the length of Paul's speech.

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    He talks about the lambs, meaning it was stuffy.

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    Now, a young man, actually, Eutychus was probably between 7 and 14 years old.

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    Okay, when you study the Greek and how words were used in different contexts, the word here for young man or later youth often describes somebody between 7 and 14.

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    In other words, you know, think of kids Evan's age, and Owen and Cade's age.

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    And that's the age group that we're looking at here.

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    Eutychus was in that age group.

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    But don't think of like dude sitting on the windowsill.

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    This was a youth, kid.

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    By the way, ironically, the word Eutychus means lucky.

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    That was what that word meant.

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    And OK, so he's sitting at the window.

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    sank into a deep sleep as Paul talked still longer.

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    And being overcome by sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead." Can you imagine? In church.

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    They were in an upper room, three floors up apparently, and this kid's sitting on the windowsill, and Paul's preaching and preaching and preaching and preaching, and he falls backwards out the window, taken up dead.

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    It says, "But Paul went down and bent over him, and taking him in his arms, said, 'Do not be alarmed, for his life is in him.' And when Paul had gone up and had broken bread and eaten, he conversed with them a long while, until daybreak, and so departed.

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    And they took the youth away alive, I read a lot of commentators and articles and things about the topic of the week, and there were some commentators that were like, "Was Eutychus really dead?" And I thought about that question, "Was Eutychus really dead?" You know, I've told this story before, I'm not going to go through the whole story now, but I've told this story before about how we were living true to our faith.

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    treasures as a family with our good friend Nathaniel Geiser.

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    And we were in the enclosure where you go in and feed the birds.

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    And the birds so lovingly and trustingly come and fly in your hand and eat out of your hand.

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    And Cade wasn't paying attention.

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    And he just spun around and stomped on a cockatiel.

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    And the cockatiel fluttered around.

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    And all of a sudden, we saw blood.

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    And it stopped fluttering around.

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    And like me, you know, I'm just like in shock.

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    I'm like, is he dead?

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    Oh, my friend Nathaniel Geiser is a veterinarian.

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    And he's like, he's dead.

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    So anyways, I had to go tell the lady like working the little zoo here.

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    I'm like, I had to go tell her that we're killing the animals.

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    And so that was the first question.

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    She, yeah, I said, my son accidentally killed one of your cockatiels.

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    I stepped on it and it's dead. I'm so sorry." And that was the first question she asked.

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    She said, "Are you sure it's dead?" And my answer was, "Well, my friend's a veterinarian, and he says it's dead, so I'm kind of going to go with his expert opinion." "Why are you telling us this horrible story again, Pastor Jeff?" "Because the guy that wrote this passage, Luke, what did he do for a living again?

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    Wasn't he a doctor?" So if he said Eutychus was dead, do you think he was dead?

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    I think he was dead, and I think he was resurrected in this passage.

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    And again, I'm reading these things, and there's all this controversy around this passage.

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    Here's the controversy, and it's so funny because it's such the American way.

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    Here's the question, whose fault was this?

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    Whose fault was this?

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    I read some articles that are like, "The youth not paying attention!" "And Eutychus wasn't paying attention!" "And people aren't paying attention in sermons!" "And shame on people for not paying attention in sermons!" I'm like, "He who has not fallen asleep in church cast the first stone!" But then, honestly, you read the text with me here, doesn't the text seem to emphasize how long Paul's sermon was? Did you get that?

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    Luke was like, Paul kept preaching, and he preached longer, and he preached longer, and he, you know, all night until midnight, and the text seems to indicate the lamps, meaning it was hot, it was stuffy, Paul wouldn't stop talking, did I mention he wouldn't stop, and he just kept going on and on.

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    It's just the American way to say, whose fault is it?

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    But we do know that he was resurrected, and I love the Apostle Paul.

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    Nothing was gonna stop his church service.

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    He's like, "Okay, kids alive, back to church.

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    "I'm only on point two." Here's something else that bothered me when I read all these commentaries and articles and such, that I had read several people say, "What a funny scene this was in the book of Acts." They're like, "You know, this is sort of a comedic interlude." I'm like, "This is funny?

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    "You think Eutychus' parents thought this was funny?" No, we went through a similar incident where we thought one of our kids was dead.

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    Maybe he was for a while.

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    I'm not a doctor.

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    But I'll tell you, the scene wasn't funny.

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    And the scene also is not so funny if you're a pastor.

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    Because this passage of Scripture stands as the most often repeated scene in churches worldwide.

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    What do you mean by that?

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    In churches, you have the kids sitting on the outskirts, disengaged.

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    In church, I'm saying that we've got to be urgent.

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    Like Paul, we've got to be urgent about going after them.

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    That's why I love in our church, the Thompsons, Dan and Alicia, I love them so much, in their heart for youth.

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    They love youth.

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    And they don't love youth because teenagers are funny and interesting and athletic, and we like to play games.

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    They love to disciple youth.

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    They love to teach the youth what it means to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

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    With retreats, with mission trips.

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    What does it mean to serve?

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    What does it mean to love each other?

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    That's intentional discipleship.

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    As I said on the outset, and specifically talking about youth ministry, it is a bigger danger than demons.

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    Apathy.

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    It's bigger than peer influence.

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    It's bigger than dangers on the Internet.

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    It's bigger than anger issues with teenagers and young people.

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    It's bigger than any issue of rebellion.

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    Because a young person who's apathetic towards Jesus Christ as not even going to be on their guard against these other things.

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    But here's where this passage is really convicting to me.

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    Because do you know the difference between us and the Apostle Paul?

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    As metaphorically speaking, in our churches, typically when a kid falls away, instead of rushing to rescue them, You're more apt to make excuses for it.

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    You know how teenagers are.

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    You know how teenagers are.

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    Teenagers just go through that phase.

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    And somehow, church, we have got it in our minds that from ages 12 to 20, just forget about these people because we've created this third category.

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    There's kids, and then there's teenagers, and there's adults.

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    That is completely unbiblical.

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    According to the Bible, there's two categories of people.

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    And it's children and adults. Right?

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    You're a child or you're an adult.

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    Again, that's one of the things I love about Dan and Elisha is because they treat our young people like adults.

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    They don't treat them like children.

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    "I'll put your straw in your Capri Sun for you because you can't do it." No, they treat them like adults.

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    as they should be, treated like young adults.

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    But we make excuses.

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    "Oh, they're just going through a phase." "Oh, it happens." "Oh, get ready for a heartbreak during the teenage years." "You know, they're just kids and they're irresponsible and they're stupid." And no, they are not.

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    No, they are not.

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    Young people, I don't mean to be talking about you like you're not in the room.

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    But I want you to know that I don't see you as children.

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    So you know, as a church, we make plans and we pray and we give and we work and we go to other countries.

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    I just want to encourage this church, we need to have urgency for the mission field that's right here, with our kids.

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    Urgency.

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    Urgency, like Paul, let's run out after them.

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    We see them disengaged and falling away, let's run out after them.

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    And finally, we need to have a sense of urgency.

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    Because plans need made.

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    Because plans need made for reasons...

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    You better be urgent ministry, we've got to make plans.

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    Look at the last couple of verses here.

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    "But going ahead to the ship, we sent Syl for Assos, intending to take Paul aboard there, for so he had arranged, intending himself to go by land.

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    When he met us at Assos, we took him on board and went to Mytilene.

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    And sailing from there, we came the following day opposite Chios.

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    The next day we touched at Samos.

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    And the day after that we went to Miletus.

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    For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he might not have to spend time in Asia, for he was hastening to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the day of Pentecost." Plans need made.

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    I'd like to remind you again, church, the most important things in life are intentional.

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    I don't wake up in the morning and say, "Gosh, you know what? I hope I get a chance to eat today.

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    I'm sure at some point I'm going to be hungry, so I hope somehow food finds its way into my mouth." If you're not intentional, it's not going to happen.

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    Gosh, if I But I want you to see the main thing I want to point out to you in this passage, verse 16, you notice it says, "Paul decided to sail past Ephesus." Why? Do you think Paul did that because he hated Ephesus?

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    There were people there at Ephesus he didn't like?

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    That's not the case at all.

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    In fact, it was because Paul had so much love for Ephesus that he chose not to go there.

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    Because he was trying to get to Jerusalem, and he knew if I stop in Ephesus, it's not going to be a "how do you do," five minutes, let's have a cup of coffee and I'm on my way.

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    It's going to be a lot of hugs and handshakes and let's catch up and let's pray together and teach us something, and I'm going to end up being there for a very long time.

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    Because of the great affection that he had for this particular church.

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    So what's the point?

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    Here it is. Mark this down.

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    I see some things, and some of you have no idea how this works.

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    I want you to write this down.

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    Urgency means saying no to some things.

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    And before you think I'm being overly critical towards you, understand that I am the biggest offender of this.

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    I am the biggest.

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    And this was convicting to me.

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    But Paul said no.

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    Paul said no to going to Ephesus.

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    It would have been good to go to Ephesus, but it would have hindered his main objective if he went to Ephesus So we to church have to learn to say no to good but lesser things You need to learn to say no You see we need to make plans to reach more people We need to make plans to better help those in our church And we can't do that if all of our time and energy is taken up by lesser things. I am the biggest offender and And by grace, I am learning and I am growing in this area, and I would commend you, especially the leaders in our church, to grow with me in this area, that we need to say no to lesser things.

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    You don't have to do everything.

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    It's okay to say no if these things that you're being asked to do are going to take away your time and energy from the main thing that you're trying to get done.

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    In the early days of our church, I was killing myself because I wouldn't say no to anything.

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    "Pastor Jeff, we're going to need you to print up water bottles." water bottle labels and we're gonna have to have you hand them out we're gonna have to have you set up a booth at you know this community fest in this convention and things not mandated by leadership in the church but just all these things that people will ask for Jeff you have to do this you have to do that I'm gonna need you to do this and okay so I'm not spending the amount of time in prayer that I need to and I'm I'm not spending any amount of time in sermon prep that I need to because I spent six hours trying to figure out how to get my computer to print labels for a water bottle.

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    You see the problem.

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    The elders made it very clear my responsibility is prayer and preparing the message.

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    So it's a fault of mine when I'm spending six hours doing these other things.

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    You need to learn to say no to some things.

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    I wonder as a culture why we seem so busy, and we feel like despite our busyness, nothing gets done.

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    Does anybody else feel like that?

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    Every second of my day is spoken for, and at the end of the day, I feel like nothing got done?

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    How does that happen?

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    Urgency means we need to say no to some things, in light of the more important things.

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    I want to encourage you to learn the art of tactfully and respectfully saying no to some things while keeping focus on the main thing.

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    That's why I write those words down tactfully and respectfully.

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    If somebody says, "Hey, you know, I'm going to need you to do this." "No, Pastor Jeff said no." You know what, you just say it like this.

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    "That sounds like a great thing, man.

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    That sounds like a great thing, but I'm going to tell you right now, and we're so focused on this other thing that we're working on, I'm just not going to be able to devote the time that that's going to need.

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    Because I need to devote the time to this other thing.

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    And if people can't appreciate or respect that, that's on them.

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    But you see, Paul had to make a very hard decision.

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    I'm going to not visit my favorite church because it's going to interfere with the greater objective.

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    of the day is urgency.

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    This is a very timely message for us because as we're in week three in this new facility, it's easy to look around at this place and sort of see it as a big finish line.

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    But this place is not a finish line, this place is a starting block, this is a launching pad.

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    We have to be urgently intentional moving forward.

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    I want you to think of what the Lord's going to do.

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    If like Paul, we don't allow status quo, but we're going to continue in urgency.

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    Because church, there are people who need encouraged.

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    There are young people that need to be reached.

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    So let's avoid the enemies.

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    And let's be intentional about planning ahead and allow God to use us right here, in this place, with urgency.

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    Are you with me?

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    Alright, let's pray.

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    Father in heaven, I pray against right now, I just pray against complacency, because we don't see that in Your Word.

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    But Father, yes, we are content with who we are in Christ.

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    We are content with the work of our salvation being done.

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    we must never be content with the work that needs done.

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    Say, "We've done enough. We don't need to reach more.

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    We don't need to invite people.

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    We don't need to extend the love of God to others, because we're good. We're a good size, and bills are getting paid." We need to be urgent about this mission, because you have chosen the church as the place for your son shall be exalted and lifted high, when your message will be proclaimed.

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    Father, I pray against complacency, and instead, Father, for my brothers and sisters here, I pray for a spirit of urgency in our church.

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    Father, I pray that we would be a church known for encouraging people, that we go after people, and let them know that You love them and that we love them.

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    Father, give us discernment when there's enemies, when people plot against us, and they will.

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    Give us discernment on how to engage or on how to avoid.

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    Father, I pray for the youth of this church, and I thank You for our youth workers.

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    I thank You for what You're doing in the youth.

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    And Father, I pray for them, that they don't feel on the outskirts.

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    They don't feel detached.

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    They don't feel as if they're stuck in some middle phase of life where it's okay to just be off to the side.

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    This is the time in their lives You're going to be building character in them.

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    You're going to be building a foundation for them to be the kind of people that they will be.

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    Help us, Father, as a church, to love, to engage the youth.

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    Father, help us to be intentional about moving forward.

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    God, I thank You again for this facility that You've given us, but we are not sitting back saying we're good now.

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    I thank You for things like this Financial Peace University coming up.

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    Father, I pray that we have more opportunities and we're going to be able to invite people and engage our community.

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    Show us, Father, what doors You're opening so that we can get out and share the love of Your Son and the good news of Your Son.

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    Always keep us urgent, Father, by the power of Your Spirit.

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    Keep us urgent.

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    We pray in Jesus' name.

Small Group Questions (Whole Group):
Read Acts 20:1-16

  1. Why did Paul spend so much time encouraging churches? What would have happened to these churches if he hadn't? What does this say about the way WE should encourage others in the church?
     

  2. In Acts 20:3, we see that Paul changed his plans so he could avoid the enemies who were after him. How do YOU know who you need to avoid and when? Can we know? If the Bible says to love our enemies, why would we ever avoid them?
     

  3. Who do YOU think takes the blame for Eutychus falling asleep (Acts 20:7-12)? Eutychus or Paul? Another option?
     

  4. What are ways the church can keep youth from disengaging? How can you help?

Breakout Questions:

Who do you know from our church that needs encouraged right now? Name that person to your breakout group, pray for them, and then you have 24 hours to encourage that person in some way (text, email, call, letter, card, your choice!).